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#0, WoC
Posted by trigger on Feb-27-12 at 10:51 PM
Loved it. I totally need to re-read it again...which I will have plenty of time tonight from 11:30-12, 2:30-3, and 5:30-6 to do.

And I liked the HTML, but recognize that unless one of the fans comes up with a style sheet that works, it ain't happening. (this, in other parlance, is known as a broad hint, btw).

I think Laura is an interesting character, but has an all too familiar background - how many ronin-style folks are roaming this galaxy? And how many children has G. saved over the years from becoming the Ultimate Weapon(TM)? I also thought Skuld was slightly out of character (I mean, she turns pink!) but that could be the BatB treatment - I really didn't like watching that show because I couldn't accept some of the characterizations.

Also, nice shout-out to the current Batman line with the "red robin" reference.

I would love to see the fight sequence on Omega animated. damn. I honestly think it's a lot better than the NA sequence, although I loved the NA setup and the chase scene. one question - is that the same battledome Corwin fought in?

Anyway, an rollicking good yarn, and an excellent way to tie in the Exile to what ever you're calling the post-Future Imperfect.

cheers,
t.

Trigger Argee
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#1, RE: WoC
Posted by Star Ranger4 on Feb-28-12 at 09:46 AM
In response to message #0
LAST EDITED ON Feb-28-12 AT 09:56 AM (EST)
 
> "Claws poor substitute for brains!" was actually the phrase Miyagi-sensei had
> used, usually while avoiding her fastest strikes and causing her to fall out
> of boats into icy mountain lakes

HEH! In its own way, that makes so much sense. I have to say that I'm sorry that scripting constraints make it (at the moment) so that he had to die. Maybe he's another of the honored dead who will be allowed to exercise the right to Return?

> On a high rooftop two simulated city blocks east, Virginia Shepard lay in a
> prone sniping position, observing the situation through the telesight of her
> custom Valkyrie anti-matèriel rifle, "George". As Kimura fell, Shepard nudged
> her partner with an elbow and said delightedly, "She speaks Tuchankan!"

> "Like a native," Garrus Vakarian agreed, keeping his eye glued to his
> spotter's scope.

What really made this a ROFL moment for me is that my nephew had picked up Mass Effect 1 right around Christmas so I could HEAR Fem-Shep and Garrus' voice deliver the lines in my head.

As to the markup, my only comment is that for some reason going from Italic back to standard erases the trailing space in Firefox, but that might just be an issue with the way Mozilla handles HTML vs other browsers.

Have I mentioned how much I love the way you've worked to show this dimensions versions of Wolverine and Sabretooth to be the diametrically opposite personalities as defined in their source? I think I have, but if I haven't, gosh I love it! Sabretooth dressed as Sherlock Holmes!

OOO... One semi related question, timeline wise. Since I'm on my way out the door soon and dont have much time to look at the timestamps, might this be the triggering event for "I'm going to disney's World?"

DUR. No, that was the Knights winning the 'World Series' under "Big Unit" Johnson's Leadership, and is in its own way related back to a particular BPRD case


#2, RE: WoC
Posted by Gryphon on Feb-28-12 at 10:02 AM
In response to message #1
>HEH! In its own way, that makes so much sense. I have to say that
>I'm sorry that scripting constraints make it (at the moment) so that
>he had to die.

Oh, Miyagi wasn't her sensei at the Facility; there are no icy mountain lakes on Omega. She studied under Miyagi elsewhere, a long time later, and when they parted he was still very much alive.

>As to the markup, my only comment is that for some reason going from
>Italic back to standard erases the trailing space in Firefox, but that
>might just be an issue with the way Mozilla handles HTML vs other
>browsers.

I think that's actually a font problem - italics lean to the right, and sometimes the kerning is wrong and the tilt sort of steps on the trailing space. I use Firefox myself and don't see it happening in this particular document, but I've seen the kind of thing you're describing before.

>Have I mentioned how much I love the way you've worked to show this
>dimensions versions of Wolverine and Sabretooth to be the
>diametrically opposite personalities as defined in their source? I
>think I have, but if I haven't, gosh I love it! Sabretooth dressed as
>Sherlock Holmes!

Jubilee covers it well here, but in general she finds Victor deeply unnerving, on account of he looks exactly like a guy she used to spend an annoyingly high proportion of her time avoiding getting murdered by.

>OOO... One semi related question, timeline wise. Since I'm on my way
>out the door soon and dont have much time to look at the timestamps,
>might this be the triggering event for "I'm going to disney's World?"

Bottle Service was actually a couple of weekends before; the trigger (mentioned in the story) was the New Avalon Knights winning the World Series. It is not a given that Laura and Jubilee are destined for an equally gala evening at the end of Weapon of Choice, though, to be fair about it, chances are they're not going to spend the evening at the New Avalon Museum of Modern Art either. :)

It's slightly sad that the two stories didn't happen in the other order, if only because then Bottle Service would have gone down exactly the same - except that when the Black Hoods broke open the door at the end, everyone in the room would have discovered (with varying degrees of surprise) that Laura had been there all along, completely buried down at the far corner of the bed, and that she does not appreciate being awakened by kicked-open doors. Jubilee and Paige might not even have had to get up.

It would have skewed the bottle count considerably, though, and after what would've ended up happening to the carpet, they totes would have lost their room deposit.

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#15, RE: WoC
Posted by Star Ranger4 on Mar-01-12 at 10:48 AM
In response to message #2
>>HEH! In its own way, that makes so much sense. I have to say that
>>I'm sorry that scripting constraints make it (at the moment) so that
>>he had to die.
>
>Oh, Miyagi wasn't her sensei at the Facility; there are no icy
>mountain lakes on Omega. She studied under Miyagi elsewhere, a long
>time later, and when they parted he was still very much alive.
>
Your right. There is mention of a different name as well. Didnt catch that till the re-read with the annotations, which is prolly where my misconception came from.

#4, RE: WoC
Posted by Gryphon on Feb-28-12 at 10:24 AM
In response to message #1
LAST EDITED ON Feb-28-12 AT 10:25 AM (EST)
 
>DUR. No, that was the Knights winning the 'World Series' under "Big
>Unit" Johnson's Leadership, and is in its own way related back to a
>particular BPRD
>case

You are conflating your big Johnsons here; Walter "The Big Train" Johnson (1887-1946; 2410- ) is the resurrected Washington Senators player-manager who led the Knights to victory in 2411. Randy "The Big Unit" Johnson (1963- ) used to pitch for the Yankees, Diamondbacks et al. and won the World Series MVP award in 2001 while he was with Arizona (the first time). :)

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#8, RE: WoC
Posted by Meagen on Feb-29-12 at 06:13 AM
In response to message #1
>> On a high rooftop two simulated city blocks east, Virginia Shepard lay in a
>> prone sniping position, observing the situation through the telesight of her
>> custom Valkyrie anti-matèriel rifle, "George". As Kimura fell, Shepard nudged
>> her partner with an elbow and said delightedly, "She speaks Tuchankan!"
>
>> "Like a native," Garrus Vakarian agreed, keeping his eye glued to his
>> spotter's scope.
>
>What really made this a ROFL moment for me is that my nephew had
>picked up Mass Effect 1 right around Christmas so I could HEAR
>Fem-Shep and Garrus' voice deliver the lines in my head.

Question, was Garrus part of the original Normandy's crew way back when and is on leave from Asgard like Shepard, or is he just a pretty good Palavian cop who met her recently through his work with the IPO?


#28, RE: WoC
Posted by Gryphon on Mar-04-12 at 12:46 PM
In response to message #8
>Question, was Garrus part of the original Normandy's crew way back
>when and is on leave from Asgard like Shepard, or is he just a pretty
>good Palavian cop who met her recently through his work with the IPO?

He was a member of the original Normandy crew, but escaped the ship's destruction (along with most of the rest of the crew). What he got up to subsequently will be revealed, at least in part, if I ever manage to finish Operation Archangel.

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#30, RE: WoC
Posted by Meagen on Mar-04-12 at 02:39 PM
In response to message #28
>>Question, was Garrus part of the original Normandy's crew way back
>>when and is on leave from Asgard like Shepard, or is he just a pretty
>>good Palavian cop who met her recently through his work with the IPO?
>
>He was a member of the original Normandy crew, but escaped the
>ship's destruction (along with most of the rest of the crew). What he
>got up to subsequently will be revealed, at least in part, if I ever
>manage to finish Operation Archangel.
>

Ah. I didn't think that was an option since I remembered (and a glance at Shepard's file confirms it) that the original Normandy was lost in the fall of the WDF. But I assume the "how" will be covered along with the "what".


#3, RE: WoC
Posted by Gryphon on Feb-28-12 at 10:19 AM
In response to message #0
>I think Laura is an interesting character, but has an all too familiar
>background - how many ronin-style folks are roaming this galaxy?

Quite a few, I must concede, although there's actually a lot more to what Laura got up to during the years between the two threads of Weapon of Choice than just the ronin thing - I mean, she did wander the galaxy quite a bit, but it wasn't always just to blow into town and murder a crime syndicate, Zatôichi style. As we will see in her BPGD file if I managed to finish it, she's also been and done a good many other things.

>And how many children has G. saved over the years from becoming the
>Ultimate Weapon(TM)?

I actually can't think of any others off the top of my head - Rei, maybe, but she wasn't really intended to be an Ultimate Weapon in and of herself, and her rescue was much more of a team effort. In the "modern" era, child superweapons are actually pretty rare, because of advances in biosculpt technology that mean most such creations are decanted as adults. Laura's a bit of an oddity in that regard, in that she was actually born, like a regular person. Most villainous labs in the 25th century aren't going to budget 13-16 years for their product to become operational.

>I also thought Skuld was slightly out of
>character (I mean, she turns pink!) but that could be the BatB
>treatment

I was actually a little disappointed that there ended up being relatively few fragments of the Brave and the Bold style left in Weapon of Choice by the time it was finished; as comparisons to Batman animated productions go, it wound up much more resembling, say, Under the Red Hood in tone. That was probably inevitable with a character like Laura involved; it's like making Wolverine the central character of a children's cartoon. He's the best there is at what he does, and what he does is... curiously bloodless. :)

As for Skuld, she was having a hard day already and Victor can take a person a little bit aback at the best of times. At least she didn't respond to his introduction the way Urd would have ("Oh my! Good sir, you may consider me seduced," which is what she said to Hank McCoy when he introduced himself in a similar fashion; she just has a thing for leonine gentlemen with good manners, I guess). :)

>one question - is that the
>same battledome Corwin fought in?

Yep. Ordinarily used for containing giant robot fights, it's the perfect place to arrange things if you want to minimize the risk of a punch-up spilling into the streets, endangering the public, and frightening the horses.

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#22, RE: WoC
Posted by BobSchroeck on Mar-03-12 at 02:35 PM
In response to message #3
>Yep. Ordinarily used for containing giant robot fights, it's the
>perfect place to arrange things if you want to minimize the risk of a
>punch-up spilling into the streets, endangering the public, and
>frightening the horses.

And of course, New Avalon being New Avalon, the horses are probably sentient superbeings in their own right and would only join in and increase the property damage.

-- Bob
-------------------
My race is pacifist and does not believe in war. We kill only out of personal spite.


#23, RE: WoC
Posted by mdg1 on Mar-03-12 at 06:41 PM
In response to message #22
Kymellian, Kaborian, Korbenite or Nazzar?

(Major geek cred if you recognize the sources of all 4 of those races)


#24, RE: WoC
Posted by Mephron on Mar-03-12 at 09:20 PM
In response to message #23
>Kymellian, Kaborian, Korbenite or Nazzar?
>
>(Major geek cred if you recognize the sources of all 4 of those races)

The funny part is the second one was the one I had to actually think to remember, and I actually still have all 6 issues of that comic around somewhere.

(Besides, the one Korbenite we could bring in would be, er, specced for SA1 as fast as possible...)

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#26, RE: WoC
Posted by mdg1 on Mar-04-12 at 06:57 AM
In response to message #24
Well done!

Yes, the second one was the obscurest, but you've given enough data to demonstrate that you can thrown a Spanner into the mix. :)

(I thought the Nazzar might also throw you. They haven't been used in years)

Bill has a girlfriend now, BTW. A gift from Galactus.


#32, RE: WoC
Posted by Mephron on Mar-04-12 at 05:44 PM
In response to message #26
I ran the Star Wars RPG for years. We had a Nazzar PC. Otherwise, yes, I might have missed that one.

And not only did I know that about Bill, but if you get the deeply underrated SWORD miniseries, you not only see her, but see Bill used as a threat. (It's glorious.)

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#33, RE: WoC
Posted by mdg1 on Mar-05-12 at 04:48 PM
In response to message #32
LAST EDITED ON Mar-05-12 AT 08:05 PM (EST)
 
>I ran the Star Wars RPG for years. We had a Nazzar PC. Otherwise,
>yes, I might have missed that one.
>
>And not only did I know that about Bill, but if you get the deeply
>underrated SWORD miniseries, you not only see her, but see Bill used
>as a threat. (It's glorious.)
>
>--
>Geoff Depew - Darth Mephron
>Haberdasher to Androids, Dark Lord of Sith Tech Support.
>"And Remember! Google is your Friend!!"

Best use of a mop in a diplomatic negotiation EVER.

EDIT: For the record, this is the scene we're discussing.


#34, RE: WoC
Posted by The Traitor on Mar-07-12 at 08:48 AM
In response to message #33
If you'll excuse me, I need to clear up my brain; the ruddy thing's blown up and dripped all over the carpet.

---
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Insert joke about Tea Party membership here


#35, RE: WoC
Posted by mdg1 on Mar-07-12 at 06:04 PM
In response to message #34
Need a mop? ;)

#5, RE: WoC
Posted by zwol on Feb-28-12 at 08:07 PM
In response to message #0
I also really liked this. I'm just going to call out some bits that made me smile in particular:

  • Vacationing movie star Gojira Nakajima. (Is his ability to transform into a smaller, apparently humanoid form specific to UF, or did it show up in the original movies?) (Am I confused, or is this bit completely unrelated to the A-plot?)
  • "Please understand, however, that I am not an actual, practicing mad scientist at this time."
  • "Sure, the stories I had heard painted the creature as about 20 feet tall and possibly related to the xenomorphs of Acheron, but I should have known that there was likely to be a certain degree of exaggeration involved there."
  • "I might have been little more than a vaguely man-shaped mass of bitterness and disillusion by that point, but I had standards, dammit" (Gryphon's narrative quippery is excellent throughout)
  • "You do not have to like it." I'm not deeply familiar with X-23's source material, but her characterization is spot on with what little I have seen.
  • She-Who-Severs. Despite that the Oh My Goddess version of Skuld is much more the sort of person one would want to spend time with, I have a soft spot for the original mythology's version of the Norns, and IMO throwing in a bit of that works very well in context.
  • Asari crimebosses have been a force to be reckoned with on Omega for quite some time, eh?
  • "Do they speak Standard on What?"
  • Gryphon does a fine job of balancing Laura's need to take Kimura out personally with his own responsibility to not let Kimura wreak havoc on New Avalon. So often you see the supers and the police at cross purposes when this sort of thing comes up.
  • I wonder where Laura learned to play the accordion.
  • Has Deadpool actually appeared onstage so far?
  • "The galaxy turns. History has moved on."
  • I'm missing nearly all the references at the climax of the battle, but it certainly makes an impressive tableau.
  • "Why do I feel like we've just witnessed one of those Butch meets Sundance moments that should have been prevented?"

#6, RE: WoC
Posted by remande on Feb-28-12 at 09:36 PM
In response to message #5

  • I wonder where Laura learned to play the accordion.

The same place she learned to Draw the Bacon Comics Way.

--rR


#7, RE: WoC
Posted by Gryphon on Feb-28-12 at 11:34 PM
In response to message #5
> - Vacationing movie star Gojira Nakajima. (Is his ability to
>transform into a smaller, apparently humanoid form specific to UF, or
>did it show up in the original movies?)

That's a UF thing, yeah, but his smaller form isn't humanoid. It's just smaller. (His aloha shirts have holes in the back. :)

>(Am I confused, or is this bit completely unrelated to the A-plot?)

Yeah. The bit before the credits on Batman: The Brave and the Bold is always unrelated to the A-plot, and this was originally intended to be a Lensmen: The Brave and the Bold episode.

> - Asari crimebosses have been a force to be reckoned with on Omega
>for quite some time, eh?

Well, that particular one has, anyway.

> - I wonder where Laura learned to play the accordion.

Newfoundland, originally, although she picked up the bal-musette style in Paris.

> - Has Deadpool actually appeared onstage so far?

Yup, briefly. He's part of the cavalry in Icebreaker/Thankless.

> - I'm missing nearly all the references at the climax of the
>battle, but it certainly makes an impressive tableau.

Some of it is deliberately... not obscure, but certainly not explicated as completely as it could've been on-screen. The mantra Laura chants, for instance, is the one Guy uses while he's ramping up for the Hell and Heaven maneuver in early King of Braves Gaogaigar episodes, but where she learned it, what it's called, and what the narration implies it does aren't directly sourced from anywhere, and are to be explored later. Basically what she's doing with it is not the Hell & Heaven, but rather achieving the sort of transcendent focus associated with techniques like the Katsujinkenryû Inviolate Soul discipline.

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#10, RE: WoC
Posted by Star Ranger4 on Feb-29-12 at 09:15 AM
In response to message #7
>Basically what she's
>doing with it is not the Hell & Heaven, but rather
>achieving the sort of transcendent focus associated with techniques
>like the Katsujinkenryû Inviolate Soul discipline.
>

And just before that she uses her own varient of the hundred blades technique as well.


#9, RE: WoC
Posted by Meagen on Feb-29-12 at 06:19 AM
In response to message #0
Well, I've read the whole thing. I'd say more but I have a bad case of the jibblies. I'm gonna go scrub my brain with steel wool and play some Mass Effect.

#11, RE: WoC
Posted by eriktown on Feb-29-12 at 11:29 AM
In response to message #9
Awesome! I loved it. The throwaway line about the xenomorphs of Acheron makes me wonder how the WDF Life Sciences Division would have tackled running into those nasty customers. I could all too easily see GENOM filling in for Weyland-Yutani on that one.

#29, RE: WoC
Posted by Gryphon on Mar-04-12 at 12:50 PM
In response to message #11
>Awesome! I loved it. The throwaway line about the xenomorphs of
>Acheron makes me wonder how the WDF Life Sciences Division would have
>tackled running into those nasty customers.

Basically by running away and then sending in the Marines. They're scientists, not exterminators. :)

--G.
"I haven't seen Gordo this happy in years."
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#36, RE: WoC
Posted by ebony14 on Mar-15-12 at 01:45 PM
In response to message #29
>>Awesome! I loved it. The throwaway line about the xenomorphs of
>>Acheron makes me wonder how the WDF Life Sciences Division would have
>>tackled running into those nasty customers.
>
>Basically by running away and then sending in the Marines. They're
>scientists, not exterminators. :)
>
>--G.
>"I haven't seen Gordo this happy in years."

Then they have failed to learn from past mistakes. The way to deal with Acheron xenomorphs is to take off and nuke the site from orbit. It's the only way to be sure.

Ebony the Black Dragon

"Life is like an anole. Sometimes it's green. Sometimes it's brown. But it's always a small Caribbean lizard."


#12, RE: WoC
Posted by Gryphon on Mar-01-12 at 00:12 AM
In response to message #9
>Well, I've read the whole thing. I'd say more but I have a bad case of
>the jibblies. I'm gonna go scrub my brain with steel wool and play
>some Mass Effect.

It took me a while to remember where I knew the word "jibblies" from, but now that I have, I have to admit I'm a little taken aback. I could have predicted a good many different responses to the piece (including the most popular choice among forum subscribers so far, an eerie silence), but I wouldn't have posted odds on "giving somebody the jibblies." All I can picture now is Forest Whitaker's character from Good Morning, Vietnam. "I don't know what that means, sir, but it sounds very negative to me."

--G.
"Here it comes again. A-jibbly-jibbly."
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#14, RE: WoC
Posted by Meagen on Mar-01-12 at 09:52 AM
In response to message #12
>>Well, I've read the whole thing. I'd say more but I have a bad case of
>>the jibblies. I'm gonna go scrub my brain with steel wool and play
>>some Mass Effect.
>
>It took me a while to remember where I knew the word "jibblies" from,
>but now that I have, I have to admit I'm a little taken aback. I
>could have predicted a good many different responses to the piece
>(including the most popular choice among forum subscribers so far, an
>eerie silence), but I wouldn't have posted odds on "giving somebody
>the jibblies." All I can picture now is Forest Whitaker's character
>from Good Morning, Vietnam. "I don't know what that means,
>sir, but it sounds very negative to me."

I would have used "squicked" but that implies more of a disgust. This was less "ick" and more "ow". That is, "ick" was still part of it, but the "ow" was a much bigger part. And there was definitely sufficient shuddering to qualify for jibblies.

I know you probably weren't aiming for this reaction specifically (you did not go into any gory detail about the procedure, for which I am grateful, and kept the focus on the characters' reactions), and I'm the first to admit that I have a very low tolerance for images of pain and torture. Still, not much you can do about visecral reactions.

So, yeah. The bits in the middle gave me the jibblies and that sor tof overshadowed any other reaction I could have.

Oh, nice to see Wheatly though. I actually liked him more than GladOS. He has actual inflection to his voice!


#16, RE: WoC
Posted by Gryphon on Mar-01-12 at 11:05 AM
In response to message #14
>I know you probably weren't aiming for this reaction specifically (you
>did not go into any gory detail about the procedure, for which I am
>grateful, and kept the focus on the characters' reactions), and I'm
>the first to admit that I have a very low tolerance for images of pain
>and torture. Still, not much you can do about visecral reactions.

Ah, I understand. Sorry about that, but under the circumstances there wasn't really any avoiding it. I actually rather tried to dodge it - when I wrote the scene where Skuld is talking about how it's all easy-peasy in this day and age, I thought that was how it was going to go down. I only realized the "easy" version wasn't going to work at around the same time Skuld did. After mulling it for a while, I concluded that it was for the best; it gave Gryphon and Skuld more of an ethical problem to confront and it exemplified two of Laura's key features, her endurance and her determination.

I tell you what, though. Weapon of Choice originated as a Lensmen: The Brave and the Bold episode, but by the time it was finished, it was definitely for airing after the watershed only. I suppose that's what I get for committing such a grave format-story mismatch. Laura is actually capable of being quite whimsical, but, uh, not under these conditions.

--G.
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#20, RE: WoC
Posted by Meagen on Mar-01-12 at 05:52 PM
In response to message #16
>>I know you probably weren't aiming for this reaction specifically (you
>>did not go into any gory detail about the procedure, for which I am
>>grateful, and kept the focus on the characters' reactions), and I'm
>>the first to admit that I have a very low tolerance for images of pain
>>and torture. Still, not much you can do about visecral reactions.
>
>Ah, I understand. Sorry about that, but under the circumstances there
>wasn't really any avoiding it. I actually rather tried to
>dodge it - when I wrote the scene where Skuld is talking about how
>it's all easy-peasy in this day and age, I thought that was how it was
>going to go down. I only realized the "easy" version wasn't going to
>work at around the same time Skuld did.

Dramatically speaking it was a good call! After that scene, anything else would just be an anticlimax. My inner author is 100% behind you on this.

I guess you're going to need to figure out if "it was a very well-done dramatic twist that gave me a serious case of the jibblies" is a compliment.


#21, RE: WoC
Posted by Avatar_of_Chaos on Mar-03-12 at 03:44 AM
In response to message #14
I really don't know about you but I was a bit frighten at imagining Brave and the Bold Skuld channeling Cave Johnson.

Light, the new avatar of chaos


#27, RE: WoC
Posted by Gryphon on Mar-04-12 at 12:43 PM
In response to message #21
>I really don't know about you but I was a bit frighten at imagining
>Brave and the Bold Skuld channeling Cave Johnson.

Cave (1923-1986) was one of Skuld's very early Chosen, back before... well, not to put too fine a point on it, before she knew what the hell she was doing. Though not a science genius of any kind himself, he had such breathtakingly big ideas that she found herself a bit swept away. Only later did it really dawn on her that most of his big, sweeping ideas were also bad ideas, and by then it was way, way too late.

Still, she has fond memories of him, tinged with more than a hint of embarrassment (as one might remember an early boy- or girlfriend who was good times in the event but, in retrospect, turned out to have been a complete hoser the whole time). It's entirely possible that the old Aperture Science Enrichment Center is still there, moldering quietly away in that salt mine in Michigan (though obviously GLaDOS isn't there, since her origins in UF are entirely unconnected with Aperture).

--G.
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#13, RE: WoC
Posted by Nathan on Mar-01-12 at 03:01 AM
In response to message #0
I would like to note that Jubilee's reaction to meeting UF!Sabertooth shatters me completely every time I read it.

Other than that, a fun read and it's good to see y'all writing again.


#17, RE: WoC
Posted by Offsides on Mar-01-12 at 02:54 PM
In response to message #0
Liked the story, but I'm still boggling from the realization that you made Lady Heather a lensman. Not disagreeing mind you - after all, Skuld only knows what makes someone appropriate for the lens, but still... *boggle*

offsides

[...] in order to be a realist you must believe in miracles.
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#18, RE: WoC
Posted by Gryphon on Mar-01-12 at 03:04 PM
In response to message #17
>Liked the story, but I'm still boggling from the realization that you
>made Lady Heather a lensman.

Captain Kessler has many admirable qualities. Some of them are even non-obvious. :)

--G.
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Eyrie Productions, Unlimited http://www.eyrie-productions.com/
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#19, RE: WoC
Posted by Offsides on Mar-01-12 at 03:34 PM
In response to message #18
>>Liked the story, but I'm still boggling from the realization that you
>>made Lady Heather a lensman.
>
>Captain Kessler has many admirable qualities. Some of them are even
>non-obvious. :)
>
As I said, I don't object - the original source character was definitely complex enough to have many possibilities in the UFverse. But it's still a little boggling, especially as an initial introduction to her here (although a quick search shows that you suggested her exact job position in response to a forum post back in '07)...

offsides

[...] in order to be a realist you must believe in miracles.
-- David Ben Gurion
EPU RCW #π
#include <stdsig.h>


#25, RE: WoC
Posted by Tzukumori on Mar-04-12 at 05:34 AM
In response to message #0
"Now I'll just loot your body, 'cause that's how I roll..."

I cackled at this line.

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#31, RE: WoC
Posted by CdrMike on Mar-04-12 at 03:16 PM
In response to message #25
>"Now I'll just loot your body, 'cause that's how I roll..."
>
>I cackled at this line.
>

"What the fuck are you doin'?"
"Interrogatin' him."
"Well, what's he gonna tell you, 'I'm dead'?"
"Well, I ain't gonna know 'til I ask him, am I?"