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#0, (art) Vocaloid Road Film
Posted by Gryphon on Aug-27-18 at 10:57 PM
Rin Kagamine and Gumi in what used to be Long Beach, California, ca. 2052.

By Phil Moy; legwork by Doc at Wizard World Chicago last weekend.

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#1, RE: (art) Vocaloid Road Film
Posted by Verbena on Aug-28-18 at 06:50 AM
In response to message #0
Goddamn that looks awesome. Really captures that post-apocalyptic feel, but there's still some hope on their faces. Are there plans for color?

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#2, RE: (art) Vocaloid Road Film
Posted by Gryphon on Aug-28-18 at 03:30 PM
In response to message #1
>Goddamn that looks awesome. Really captures that post-apocalyptic
>feel, but there's still some hope on their faces.

It's worth noting that 2050s North America really only looks like that at places along the coast that were targeted by the Fog during the Hundred-Day War (usually because there were naval assets of some kind in the area). Most everywhere else, a lot of things are run down and some places have been abandoned because of the economic situation caused by the blockade, but the buildings generally aren't all Fallout-level ruined like that.

As an aside, no one is entirely sure why Long Beach was destroyed. Possibly the Fog mistook the container port for a navy yard, or thought the battleship Iowa was a potential threat—although they did not similarly target, for instance, Battleship Cove in Massachusetts or the Pacific War memorial fleet (Missouri, Bowfin et al.) at Pearl Harbor.

>Are there plans for color?

Hopefully one day, although unless you find a way to bribe Philip to bump things up his ever-expanding coloring queue, it'll probably be quite a while. :)

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#3, RE: (art) Vocaloid Road Film
Posted by MuninsFire on Aug-28-18 at 04:28 PM
In response to message #2
LAST EDITED ON Aug-28-18 AT 04:28 PM (EDT)
 
>As an aside, no one is entirely sure why Long Beach was
>destroyed. Possibly the Fog mistook the container port for a navy
>yard, or thought the battleship Iowa was a potential
>threat—although they did not similarly target, for instance,
>Battleship Cove in Massachusetts or the Pacific War memorial fleet
>(Missouri, Bowfin et al.) at Pearl Harbor.
>

It could be possible that assets in place off of Naval Weapons Station Seal Beach, used for ammunition storage and transport, fled to Long Beach as the nearest viable harbor when Fog assets were sighted in the area - NWS Seal Beach is an important logistics station but has no real shelter nearby, and the nearest harbor of note -is- Long Beach.

Unfortunately, that whole stretch of the California coast has no real cover to speak of for anything larger than small craft - San Diego is the nearest port to the south and there's nothing viable to the north at all until you get to the SF Bay (Ventura being useless for anything larger than a fishing trawler; Santa Barbara much the same, and choked with yachts to boot; Morro Bay being far too shallow; and nothing else with any cover at all along the central coast)

I, er, know the area ;-)


#6, RE: (art) Vocaloid Road Film
Posted by thorr_kan on Aug-30-18 at 10:19 AM
In response to message #3
>Unfortunately, that whole stretch of the California coast has no real
>cover to speak of for anything larger than small craft - San Diego is
>the nearest port to the south >associated 3rd Fleet is based] and there's nothing viable to the north
>at all until you get to the SF Bay (Ventura being useless for anything
>larger than a fishing trawler; Santa Barbara much the same, and choked
>with yachts to boot; Morro Bay being far too shallow; and nothing else
>with any cover at all along the central coast)

Man, you're right. I just went over the West Coast on Google Maps. There really aren't a lot of good harbors on that entire stretch, are there? No wonder Seattle and Los Angeles see so much shipping action.


#7, RE: (art) Vocaloid Road Film
Posted by MuninsFire on Aug-30-18 at 01:20 PM
In response to message #6
>>Unfortunately, that whole stretch of the California coast has no real
>>cover to speak of for anything larger than small craft - San Diego is
>>the nearest port to the south >>associated 3rd Fleet is based] and there's nothing viable to the north
>>at all until you get to the SF Bay (Ventura being useless for anything
>>larger than a fishing trawler; Santa Barbara much the same, and choked
>>with yachts to boot; Morro Bay being far too shallow; and nothing else
>>with any cover at all along the central coast)
>
>Man, you're right. I just went over the West Coast on Google Maps.
>There really aren't a lot of good harbors on that entire stretch, are
>there? No wonder Seattle and Los Angeles see so much shipping action.

Yep. Hopefully Gryph won't mind a little historical hijack here - but yeah, the whole California coast is just -lousy- when it comes to any kind of shipping and that's been the case since before the Spanish came in to settle the place. Most of the central coast (that is, the stretch between Ventura and San Francisco - incidentally, my favorite area) involves fairly substantial cliffs and rough terrain going nearly to the water, and even those coves and harbors where landing is practical are almost all quite shallow and not anywhere you could get even quite small ships unloaded, and even -those- tend to be fairly exposed to the weather, which can get quite unpleasant in the winter.

If you look at the course of the Manila Galleon you'll notice -they took the thing along the California coast- but they didn't -land- anywhere (usually) north of Acapulco - sure, partly because of infrastructure, which made sense in the 1500s, but they kept the thing going for several hundred years; the coast is just that inhospitable to shipping.

So the area was known - they had shipping through the Santa Barbara channel from the mid 1500s! - but, for that example, Santa Barbara wasn't settled until 1782, and it was settled by a -land- expedition.

There's probably a bunch of stuff to be said here about relative land desirability between the fairly fertile and known-silver-producing regions of Mexico vs. the comparatively barren tracts of Alta California as contributing factors here, but a significant reason why California was settled so comparatively late is down to the coastline being freakin' dangerous.

(As an aside, Port Hueneme fell out of my head - it and the nearby Point Mugu Naval Air Station are just south of Ventura, but much farther from Seal Beach than Long Beach is)

There are, incidentally, quite a few small beaches that are quiet and lovely along that stretch - no good for sheltering shipping, but very nice places to visit if you want a quiet place to sit and watch the waves and happen to be in the area. Morro Strand - from Morro Bay north to Cayucos - is very quiet in the off-season; Carpinteria is absolutely -lovely- so long as it's not the height of summer; and there are a number of small inlets up closer to Big Sur that very few people go to at all - though those last are protected by the fact you have to go down quite steep paths to get to them. I'm looking forward to the other side of labor day so we can go hang out at the beach and enjoy a quiet day or two.


#8, RE: (art) Vocaloid Road Film
Posted by thorr_kan on Sep-04-18 at 12:07 PM
In response to message #7
Thanks for the information.

#4, RE: (art) Vocaloid Road Film
Posted by TsukaiStarburst on Aug-29-18 at 08:01 PM
In response to message #0
OMG YES

That's all I have to say. OMG YES.

Oh, and 'more rin/gumi fiction please!'


#5, RE: (art) Vocaloid Road Film
Posted by Gryphon on Aug-29-18 at 10:01 PM
In response to message #4
>Oh, and 'more rin/gumi fiction please!'

A sequel to Vocaloid Variations: The Mother of Invention is on the short list, although how short a list that is might be debatable, given the way these things tend to go around here. :)

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