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#0, NF Characters I want to see...
Posted by fb111a on Sep-19-15 at 05:43 PM
* Mac Taylor and the CSI:NY gang - the third shift of the New Avalon crime lab.

* The folks from Scorpion (IPO Special Action Team)

* Honor Harrington

Thoughts?

(Sorry for the new post, I've been away, and the last character page was four months old...)


#1, RE: NF Characters I want to see...
Posted by Gryphon on Sep-19-15 at 05:46 PM
In response to message #0
>* Mac Taylor and the CSI:NY gang - the third shift of the New Avalon
>crime lab.

I don't remember if we ever mentioned it anywhere, but it has long been the assumption of the production staff that they work in Gotham City.

>* The folks from Scorpion (IPO Special Action Team)

Don't know this one.

>* Honor Harrington

Nope.

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#2, RE: NF Characters I want to see...
Posted by Star Ranger4 on Sep-19-15 at 07:33 PM
In response to message #1
>>* Honor Harrington
>
>Nope.
>
Especially now that Redneck is no longer around; there was an reference to a RADM Styles that Redneck wound up having to chuck out on his ear to take back command of the Freespacers sometime around the battle of ZC. It was implied that he came from the Manticore system (or maybe sector) and that he wound up as a Freespacer after being bounced from his birth service.

In general, more of a bean-counter than someone you wanted in charge of an actual fighting fleet.


#3, RE: NF Characters I want to see...
Posted by rwpikul on Sep-20-15 at 12:13 PM
In response to message #1
>>* The folks from Scorpion (IPO Special Action Team)
>
>Don't know this one.

An ego-stroking show for self-proclaimed "sixth smartest man in the world" Walter O'Brian. It's based around the idea of a team of incredibly smart but socially deficient people that solve problems either for the government or on contract to private interests.

The group and the characters would probably work in UF, (better than they do in the RL setting of the show), but I don't know if you would want to use them.


#4, RE: NF Characters I want to see...
Posted by RenoDumont on Jul-02-16 at 07:11 PM
In response to message #3
The main cast of CSI Cyber as the IPO's Cyber-Crime division?

Eleventh Doctor: I never forget a face.

The Curator: I know you don't. And in years to come you might find yourself revisiting a few, but just the old favorites.


#5, RE: NF Characters I want to see...
Posted by The Traitor on Jul-10-16 at 07:28 AM
In response to message #0
LAST EDITED ON Jul-10-16 AT 07:32 AM (EDT)
 
I'd worry about this having been necro-ed, but it's probably alright. Anyway. I'm pretty sure I mentioned this in one of the other "Characters You'd Like To See In NF" threads, but Taylor Hebert from Worm would either be a fantastic hero OR a pretty intimidating antagonist. Or maybe both! Her home continuum is a crapsack world in excelsis and I'd love to see her get the happy life she deserves. Oh, and bring Tattletale along as well, she's not so much a quipster hero as a weaponized smartarse. =]

It's still a great story and I love it to bits, but it's really not at all the kind of work that fits in with the UFverse. However, the actual characters are really well-written, and I think it'd be cool to see them get what amounts to a Reverse Korra Treatment. I also think it'd be cool to see someone fight a Rose Duel with a skinny, gangly fifteen-year-old OH GOD THE SPIDERS THEY'RE EVERYWHERE GET THEM OFF NONONO NOT THE BEES AND WASPS AND THINGS THEY'RE IN MY EYES OH GOD WHY DOES THIS CATERPILLAR BURN LIKE HOT SAUCE I SUBMIT I SUBMIT I WANT MY MUM-

For reference, that's Taylor's superpower. Bad powers =/= bad people. =]

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"She's old, she's lame, she's barren too, // "She's not worth feed or hay, // "But I'll give her this," - he blew smoke at me - // "She was something in her day." -- Garnet Rogers, Small Victory

FiMFiction.net: we might accept blatant porn involving the cast of My Little Pony but as God is my witness we have standards.

Also I want to see the Experts of Justice beat the shit out of one of the setting's three disgustingly destructive kaiju. There are kaiju with superpowers. This is exactly as bad as it sounds. So, y'know, bring your A-game, chums.


#6, RE: NF Characters I want to see...
Posted by pjmoyer on Jul-10-16 at 01:52 PM
In response to message #5
LAST EDITED ON Jul-10-16 AT 01:52 PM (EDT)
 
Having read enough Worm fanfic and Quests (without reading the original series) where Miss Hebert's life gets improved or even WEIRDER in various and sundry ways...

Not bloody likely, chum. ^_-;;;

---- Philip






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#7, RE: NF Characters I want to see...
Posted by The Traitor on Jul-10-16 at 06:25 PM
In response to message #6
That was kind of why I wanted someone competent to do it. So many positive Wormfics descend into vengeance porn against her bullies (and completely miss the author's point about how pathetically small they are), or make her ridiculously overpowered because the fan writer doesn't really get how to write smart power usage, or turn into fanwank for the other crossover that gives Taylor an entirely different power this happens all the time pls stahp. It gets wearing. I'm desperate for fics where she gets to stay herself and gets a happy ending, whether in a new Earth or four hundred years in the future in a basement full of very confused people on Zeta Cygni wondering where all the butterflies came from.

But I concede defeat on this issue, and will content myself with imagining the previously-mentioned Rose Duels involving all the spiders. =]

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"She's old, she's lame, she's barren too, // "She's not worth feed or hay, // "But I'll give her this," - he blew smoke at me - // "She was something in her day." -- Garnet Rogers, Small Victory

FiMFiction.net: we might accept blatant porn involving the cast of My Little Pony but as God is my witness we have standards.

I have read the source material. I don't think Gryphon would get through the first chapter without trying to find the author and beat him to death with a bit of old pipe for heroine abuse.


#8, RE: NF Characters I want to see...
Posted by Gryphon on Jul-10-16 at 06:29 PM
In response to message #7
LAST EDITED ON Jul-10-16 AT 06:30 PM (EDT)
 
>I have read the source material. I don't think Gryphon would
>get through the first chapter without trying to find the author and
>beat him to death with a bit of old pipe for heroine abuse.

The climax of Manhunt notwithstanding, I have more of the standoff drone-missile temperament. I don't like getting blood on me.

--G.
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#9, RE: NF Characters I want to see...
Posted by The Traitor on Jul-10-16 at 08:48 PM
In response to message #8
Completely understandable. It's such a pain to wash out.

(srsly tho you'd get along really well with taylor hebert as a character. and dragon, come to think of it. dragon is basically the setting's most heroic hero and is basically if iron man had the morals of captain america.)

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"She's old, she's lame, she's barren too, // "She's not worth feed or hay, // "But I'll give her this," - he blew smoke at me - // "She was something in her day." -- Garnet Rogers, Small Victory

FiMFiction.net: we might accept blatant porn involving the cast of My Little Pony but as God is my witness we have standards.


#10, RE: NF Characters I want to see...
Posted by Pasha on Jul-11-16 at 02:01 PM
In response to message #9
>Completely understandable. It's such a pain to wash out.

Wear red.

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#11, RE: NF Characters I want to see...
Posted by The Traitor on Jul-11-16 at 03:29 PM
In response to message #10
Then you just look like you've been incompetently tie-dyed.

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"She's old, she's lame, she's barren too, // "She's not worth feed or hay, // "But I'll give her this," - he blew smoke at me - // "She was something in her day." -- Garnet Rogers, Small Victory

FiMFiction.net: we might accept blatant porn involving the cast of My Little Pony but as God is my witness we have standards.


#12, RE: NF Characters I want to see...
Posted by McFortner on Jul-12-16 at 02:18 PM
In response to message #10
"Wait! You may be wondering, "Why the red suit?" Well, that's so bad guys can't see me bleed."

Michael C. Fortner
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There is only "open fire" and "I need to reload".


#13, RE: NF Characters I want to see...
Posted by jonathanlennox on Jul-13-16 at 03:14 PM
In response to message #0
Marinette Dupain-Cheng and Adrien Agreste seem like they could fit in somewhere. (And judging from his Tumblr, Phil at least is familiar with them.)

#14, RE: NF Characters I want to see...
Posted by BobSchroeck on Jul-13-16 at 06:22 PM
In response to message #13
>Marinette Dupain-Cheng and Adrien Agreste seem like they could fit in
>somewhere. (And judging from his Tumblr, Phil at least is familiar
>with them.)

Oh, yes, I stumbled across that series a few months ago. Only watched one episode but I was impressed with the production values. And the writing didn't seem half-bad, assuming the translation was accurate.

I could see these two bouncing around the Claremont district in New Avalon indeed...

-- Bob
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#31, RE: NF Characters I want to see...
Posted by jonathanlennox on Jul-25-16 at 06:24 PM
In response to message #14
>>Marinette Dupain-Cheng and Adrien Agreste seem like they could fit in
>>somewhere. (And judging from his Tumblr, Phil at least is familiar
>>with them.)
>
>Oh, yes, I stumbled across that series a few months ago. Only watched
>one episode but I was impressed with the production values. And the
>writing didn't seem half-bad, assuming the translation was accurate.
>
>I could see these two bouncing around the Claremont district in New
>Avalon indeed...

Actually, after watching a number of additional episodes, I'm inclined to disagree on the last point. The show's Parisian setting is a fairly substantial element of its feel and characterization, and it wouldn't be the same transplanted to somewhere Anglophone. (Not that this would stop it from being included in UF, of course!)

Note to Gryphon, since he mentioned he hasn't recognized most of the recent suggestions: these are Ladybug and Chat Cat Noir, from Miraculous Ladybug (or Miraculous depending which translation you're watching). High-concept summary of the show: if Sailor Moon were French.


#32, RE: NF Characters I want to see...
Posted by Gryphon on Jul-25-16 at 06:41 PM
In response to message #31
>if Sailor Moon were French.

That is a concept that is too frightening to look directly at, I think.

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#33, RE: NF Characters I want to see...
Posted by Peter Eng on Jul-25-16 at 07:37 PM
In response to message #32
>>if Sailor Moon were French.
>
>That is a concept that is too frightening to look directly at, I
>think.
>

As concept, it's disturbing. In execution, it's rather fun.

He's right about the background being necessary, though; they'd probably be living on some Francophone planet, rather than using the rooftops of New Avalon.

Peter Eng
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#15, RE: NF Characters I want to see...
Posted by Mercutio on Jul-15-16 at 09:51 PM
In response to message #0
Motherfuckin' Jillian Holtzmann.

That is all.

-Merc
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#16, RE: NF Characters I want to see...
Posted by Gryphon on Jul-15-16 at 10:16 PM
In response to message #15
It really sort of vaguely amazes me how I've never heard of anyone who's ever been suggested in any of these threads. I mean, I knew I wasn't exactly au fait with pop culture these days, but, Jesus.

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#17, RE: NF Characters I want to see...
Posted by Mercutio on Jul-15-16 at 10:31 PM
In response to message #16
>It really sort of vaguely amazes me how I've never heard of
>anyone who's ever been suggested in any of these threads. I
>mean, I knew I wasn't exactly au fait with pop culture these
>days, but, Jesus.

Jillian Holtzmann is one of the new Ghostbusters and far and away the best one. The other three are sort of rather flat, but Kate McKinnon (who plays her) steals every single scene she is in and is the single best addition to the franchise they've made.

(I will refrain from talking about the movie here but may or may not start a thread on it. My gushing over Holtzmann is not to be taken a full-throated endorsement of the franchise reboot, nor is this disclaimer to be taken as an equally full-throated condemnation.)

-Merc
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#18, RE: NF Characters I want to see...
Posted by Gryphon on Jul-15-16 at 10:42 PM
In response to message #17
>>It really sort of vaguely amazes me how I've never heard of
>>anyone who's ever been suggested in any of these threads. I
>>mean, I knew I wasn't exactly au fait with pop culture these
>>days, but, Jesus.
>
>Jillian Holtzmann is one of the new Ghostbusters and far and away the
>best one.

Ah.

Just for the record, if anyone cares, I didn't skip the remake because of the female-cast thing, I skipped it because I have permanent remake fatigue.

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#19, RE: NF Characters I want to see...
Posted by Mercutio on Jul-15-16 at 10:53 PM
In response to message #18
>>>It really sort of vaguely amazes me how I've never heard of
>>>anyone who's ever been suggested in any of these threads. I
>>>mean, I knew I wasn't exactly au fait with pop culture these
>>>days, but, Jesus.
>>
>>Jillian Holtzmann is one of the new Ghostbusters and far and away the
>>best one.
>
>Ah.
>
>Just for the record, if anyone cares, I didn't skip the remake because
>of the female-cast thing, I skipped it because I have permanent remake
>fatigue.

At the risk of breaking my own rule, I am rather surprised that this isn't simply Ghostbusters 3. It would have required about two pages worth of changes to the script to manage that comfortably.

-Merc
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#20, RE: NF Characters I want to see...
Posted by mdg1 on Jul-16-16 at 10:49 AM
In response to message #18
>Just for the record, if anyone cares, I didn't skip the remake because
>of the female-cast thing, I skipped it because I have permanent remake
>fatigue.

Think Agatha Heterodyne with access to 20th-century technology. :)


#21, RE:NF Characters I want to see...
Posted by Vehrec on Jul-20-16 at 05:06 PM
In response to message #0
How about IPO division or team Overwatch? Though given Gabriel and Jack's backstory, perhaps a division far away from New Avalon. I don't know how many more explosions the old headquarters can take, nor how both men could slip away undetected to become a Big Fire agent and Mercenary respectively.

The hyper-intelligent gorilla with jump jets, rebel DJ hacker stealing from Megacorps, time-unlocked test-pilot, and pro-gamer mecha-pilot are all the kinds of people who it seems IPO might be interested in though.


#22, RE:NF Characters I want to see...
Posted by Peter Eng on Jul-21-16 at 11:56 AM
In response to message #21
>How about IPO division or team Overwatch? Though given Gabriel and
>Jack's backstory, perhaps a division far away from New Avalon. I
>don't know how many more explosions the old headquarters can take, nor
>how both men could slip away undetected to become a Big Fire agent and
>Mercenary respectively.
>
>The hyper-intelligent gorilla with jump jets, rebel DJ hacker stealing
>from Megacorps, time-unlocked test-pilot, and pro-gamer mecha-pilot
>are all the kinds of people who it seems IPO might be interested in
>though.

Even if the IPO didn't get them on board, I can see them as an independent group of galactic do-gooders. Winston is probably from Heston's planet, D.Va could be a Solaris native, and Tracer is probably ex-WDF.

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#23, RE:NF Characters I want to see...
Posted by Gryphon on Jul-21-16 at 01:43 PM
In response to message #22
>Is Mei from Hoth, or Ice Planet Halloran V?

Mei's name and face evoke the Earth Kingdom, but she dresses in the style of the Southern Water Tribe. Between that and her obvious fondness for and aptitude with Weird Technology, I can only assume she is a descendant of Varrick and Zhu Li.

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#24, RE:NF Characters I want to see...
Posted by ebony14 on Jul-21-16 at 04:59 PM
In response to message #23
>>Is Mei from Hoth, or Ice Planet Halloran V?
>
>Mei's name and face evoke the Earth Kingdom, but she dresses in the
>style of the Southern Water Tribe. Between that and her obvious
>fondness for and aptitude with Weird Technology, I can only assume she
>is a descendant of Varrick and Zhu Li.
>

She does occasionally Do the Thing. :)

Reaper looks like he's from Kane's World, easily. And Lucio is about as Funkotroni as you can get.

Ebony the Black Dragon

"Life is like an anole. Sometimes it's green. Sometimes it's brown. But it's always a small Caribbean lizard."


#25, RE:NF Characters I want to see...
Posted by Gryphon on Jul-21-16 at 06:43 PM
In response to message #24
>Reaper looks like he's from Kane's World, easily.

Well, yeah.

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#26, RE:NF Characters I want to see...
Posted by Kendra Kirai on Jul-22-16 at 00:03 AM
In response to message #24
LAST EDITED ON Jul-22-16 AT 08:55 AM (EDT)
 
Would Widowmaker's complexion indicate she's from Gamilon?

Roadhog looks like he'd be from.....um......dammit. The world Moose is from.

(EDIT: IT'S HOFFMAN! He's gotta be a Hoffmanite.)

(incidentally, a combination of typo and autocorrect made that 'looks' into 'looms' and I feel bad for having to fix it because *it works*)

Bastion is obviously an old battle droid who went a few decades too long without a mind wipe.

Mercy could theoretically be from almost anywhere, but somehow she feels....Valkyrie Medic, especially with her 'magic' healing staff.

Symmetra may be from the Algo system, considering that she seems to use photon energy to make physical constructs.

Zarya is just Russian. MAYBE from a high-g world, but definitely just plain *Russian*.

Torbjorn is a Dwarf. Honest to goodness actual Dwarf.


#27, RE:NF Characters I want to see...
Posted by Gryphon on Jul-22-16 at 00:25 AM
In response to message #26
>Torbjorn is a Dwarf.

... and he's digging a hole.

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#30, RE:NF Characters I want to see...
Posted by ebony14 on Jul-25-16 at 10:37 AM
In response to message #27
>>Torbjorn is a Dwarf.
>
>... and he's digging a hole.

And I think he's in denial for some reason, because he insists (in game) that he's not one. Maybe he was raised by humans, who had to explain he was adopted when he started growing that beard at the age of 5.

Ebony the Black Dragon

"Life is like an anole. Sometimes it's green. Sometimes it's brown. But it's always a small Caribbean lizard."


#35, RE:NF Characters I want to see...
Posted by Gryphon on Jul-28-16 at 08:58 PM
In response to message #30
LAST EDITED ON Jul-28-16 AT 08:59 PM (EDT)
 
>>>Torbjorn is a Dwarf.
>>
>>... and he's digging a hole.
>
>And I think he's in denial for some reason, because he insists (in
>game) that he's not one. Maybe he was raised by humans, who had to
>explain he was adopted when he started growing that beard at the age
>of 5.

Heheh. Some years ago, and after many years out of the habit, I was invited to play in a friend's Dungeons & Dragons Third Edition game (this was when 3E was the New Hotness). We had a week or so to come up with our characters before the game started, because our DM was keen on everyone having a Developable Backstory and ran a story-heavy game in general.

The character I ended up with, after much consulting of the Player Handbook and rumination, was a half-elf barbarian/sorcerer called Einar Skinnarland (named after one of the heroes of the Norwegian resistance in World War II, about whom I learned from the late Leo Marks's excellent book Between Silk and Cyanide). The thing about Einar that seemed like a joke on paper, but wasn't in practice, was that he had been raised from infancy by dwarves, and though half-human and half-elf genetically, was entirely dwarven culturally.

Among other quirks of personality, this meant that he was accustomed from long habit to conduct himself as if he were the tallest person in the room—even though, out in the everyday world, that was pretty much never the case, since D&D elves are shorter than humans, not taller as in many other FRP settings. He wasn't arrogant, but he always carried himself with a sort of unreflective confidence, figuratively if not literally looking up to no man. Unusually for a D&D character, he also had a day job (apprentice blacksmith) about which he actually cared; he wasn't just an adventurer.

For all that he came across as a joke character at first glance, Einar was quite a hit in the game (which was excellent, and ran for some time; I actually had to retire from it when I moved back to Maine, then returned to Boston a year or so later so Einar could "guest-star" in the Grand Finale session that wrapped up the campaign). Partly that was because a sorcerer who hauls out an axe and flies into a barbarian rage when his magic is tapped out is a thing that villainous NPCs often don't have a plan to deal with, but mostly (I like to think) it's because the other players thought he was a cool character.

--G.
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#41, RE:NF Characters I want to see...
Posted by ebony14 on Jul-29-16 at 08:22 AM
In response to message #35
Nice. I'm playing a dwarf myself, in our current Pathfinder (aka D&D v. 3.75) campaign. Ingra Rogarsdottar (who despite the name has a pronounced Scottish accent) is doing a fair impersonation of the One Sane Woman in this band of murderhobos*. Truthfully, she would be happy back at the clan forges, making weapons for the city, with the occasional foray against the drow and the duergar on the weekends, but she went and caught herself a Destiny, and like most skin irritations, it won't go away on its own and has to be treated with a long and unpleasant regimen of care.

Ebony the Black Dragon

"Life is like an anole. Sometimes it's green. Sometimes it's brown. But it's always a small Caribbean lizard."

(* murderhobo - A current slang for the traditional D&D adventurer, who has no fixed address, roams from place to place, kills people, and takes their stuff.)


#28, RE:NF Characters I want to see...
Posted by Nathan on Jul-22-16 at 06:13 PM
In response to message #26
>Would Widowmaker's complexion indicate she's from Gamilon?

It would make more sense than the canon explanation that it has something somehow to do with the hijack-chip the villains put into her head to turn her from a loving wife into a sociopathic sleeper agent.

Because neurology has to do with skin color, don't'cha know.

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Is BBs are wonderful things
Their sides are made out of iron
Their guns are made out of pain
They're crashy smashy bashy flashy fun-fun-fun-fun-fun
But the most wonderful thing about BBs
Is there is more than one
The~re is more than one!


#29, RE:NF Characters I want to see...
Posted by Kendra Kirai on Jul-22-16 at 09:36 PM
In response to message #28
They actually further altered her after that to really screw with her circulation or something to I think make her harder to detect on thermals. A good sniper is good at hiding, and all that.

#34, RE:NF Characters I want to see...
Posted by StClair on Jul-26-16 at 05:45 AM
In response to message #29
LAST EDITED ON Jul-26-16 AT 05:48 AM (EDT)
 
Yeah, she's cyanotic, and cool/clammy to the touch. Which we're apparently supposed to find sexy, along with the whole "synthetic personality walking around in the body of its first victim, a tool of those who murdered the original Amélie Lacroix and her husband" thing. (And that, IMO, makes the intro narration of the latest trailer even more messed up, since Widowmaker was never a child; those are Amélie's memories she's talking about.)

Aside from the meatpuppet, "she" is, IMO, less human than half the omnic characters. They, at least, have free will, while it's unclear if Widowmaker is anything more than a killer doll.


#36, RE:NF Characters I want to see...
Posted by Gryphon on Jul-28-16 at 09:03 PM
In response to message #34
>Yeah, she's cyanotic, and cool/clammy to the touch. Which we're
>apparently supposed to find sexy

Suddenly I'm having an uncontrolled flashback to the entire "necrophiliac morgue attendant" subplot of Sexy Losers. So that happened. Thanks, Blizzard!

--G.
"Oh cool, she's in the opening stages of decomposition."
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#44, RE:NF Characters I want to see...
Posted by Nathan on Jul-29-16 at 03:21 PM
In response to message #34
>Yeah, she's cyanotic, and cool/clammy to the touch. Which we're
>apparently supposed to find sexy, along with the whole "synthetic
>personality walking around in the body of its first victim, a tool of
>those who murdered the original Amélie Lacroix and her husband"
>thing. (And that, IMO, makes the intro narration of the latest
>trailer even more messed up, since Widowmaker was never a child; those
>are Amélie's memories she's talking about.)
>
>Aside from the meatpuppet, "she" is, IMO, less human than half the
>omnic characters. They, at least, have free will, while it's unclear
>if Widowmaker is anything more than a killer doll.

Point of order.

Rumor to my ears has it that Blizzard's reaction to Widowmaker/Tracer being a 'ship is along the lines of "As much as we appreciate the fanart, guys, Widowmaker is so much more terrible a person oh god you obviously have no idea please don't go there."

So, while I agree that her visual design is pure fanservice, I tend to think that they're trying to turn that into a disturbing disconnect with the inner horror, rather than a particularly weird stop on the fetish train.

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Is BBs are wonderful things
Their sides are made out of iron
Their guns are made out of pain
They're crashy smashy bashy flashy fun-fun-fun-fun-fun
But the most wonderful thing about BBs
Is there is more than one
The~re is more than one!


#45, RE:NF Characters I want to see...
Posted by ebony14 on Jul-29-16 at 04:32 PM
In response to message #44
>So, while I agree that her visual design is pure fanservice, I tend to
>think that they're trying to turn that into a disturbing disconnect
>with the inner horror, rather than a particularly weird stop on the
>fetish train.

Unfortunately, disturbing disconnects with inner horrors are a major stop on the fetish train these days. Rule #34, dude. If Hasbro can't shut it down, Blizzard certainly doesn't have a chance.

Ebony the Black Dragon

"Life is like an anole. Sometimes it's green. Sometimes it's brown. But it's always a small Caribbean lizard."


#46, RE:NF Characters I want to see...
Posted by Gryphon on Jul-29-16 at 05:20 PM
In response to message #45
>>So, while I agree that her visual design is pure fanservice, I tend to
>>think that they're trying to turn that into a disturbing disconnect
>>with the inner horror, rather than a particularly weird stop on the
>>fetish train.
>
>Unfortunately, disturbing disconnects with inner horrors are a major
>stop on the fetish train these days. Rule #34, dude. If Hasbro can't
>shut it down, Blizzard certainly doesn't have a chance.

"I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. Pornographic fan art starring D.Va and Winston..."

--G.
seriously
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#52, RE:NF Characters I want to see...
Posted by Nathan on Jul-31-16 at 01:17 PM
In response to message #45
>>So, while I agree that her visual design is pure fanservice, I tend to
>>think that they're trying to turn that into a disturbing disconnect
>>with the inner horror, rather than a particularly weird stop on the
>>fetish train.
>
>Unfortunately, disturbing disconnects with inner horrors are a major
>stop on the fetish train these days. Rule #34, dude. If Hasbro can't
>shut it down, Blizzard certainly doesn't have a chance.

Well, yes, but that's not Blizzard's fault.

-----

The most wonderful thing about BBs
Is BBs are wonderful things
Their sides are made out of iron
Their guns are made out of pain
They're crashy smashy bashy flashy fun-fun-fun-fun-fun
But the most wonderful thing about BBs
Is there is more than one
The~re is more than one!


#47, RE:NF Characters I want to see...
Posted by StClair on Jul-30-16 at 03:32 AM
In response to message #44
again, I'm not really sure you can even call Widowmaker a person. I'm reminded of one description (originator now forgotten) of a Terminator as "the ultimate development of the sniper rifle."

#37, RE: NF Characters I want to see...
Posted by BobSchroeck on Jul-28-16 at 09:04 PM
In response to message #0
Has RWBY been broached yet as a source for new characters? I think it goes without saying that there is an entire generation of new duelists in it...

-- Bob
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My race is pacifist and does not believe in war. We kill only out of personal spite.


#38, RE: NF Characters I want to see...
Posted by Matrix Dragon on Jul-29-16 at 02:42 AM
In response to message #37
I fully approve of Pyrrha getting to be in a setting less likely to pull the events of Volume 3... Also, it's a place where she wouldn't automatically stand out (Besides being adorable) so that'd make her happy.

Matrix Dragon, J. Random Nutter


#39, RE: NF Characters I want to see...
Posted by Gryphon on Jul-29-16 at 03:35 AM
In response to message #38
>I fully approve of Pyrrha getting to be in a setting less likely to
>pull the events of Volume 3... Also, it's a place where she wouldn't
>automatically stand out (Besides being adorable) so that'd make her
>happy.

On a point of order, Themiscyrans are always going to stand out at least a little in mixed company, but still, your point is taken.

--G.
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#40, RE: NF Characters I want to see...
Posted by BobSchroeck on Jul-29-16 at 08:09 AM
In response to message #38
LAST EDITED ON Jul-29-16 AT 08:11 AM (EDT)
 
>I fully approve of Pyrrha getting to be in a setting less likely to
>pull the events of Volume 3... Also, it's a place where she wouldn't
>automatically stand out (Besides being adorable) so that'd make her
>happy.

... and subsequently Jaune as well.

In thinking a bit more about this now that we know Gryphon actually knows what we're talking about, I would imagine at least a few of the Beacon students might be Jedi-in-training (and hanging with the Harry Potter crew). Ozpin as a Jedi Master strikes me as very likely, too. Oobleck's obviously hooked into the Speed Force.

And what is the connection between Ein and Zwei?

-- Bob
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My race is pacifist and does not believe in war. We kill only out of personal spite.


#42, RE: NF Characters I want to see...
Posted by Matrix Dragon on Jul-29-16 at 09:04 AM
In response to message #40
>In thinking a bit more about this now that we know Gryphon actually
>knows what we're talking about,

I recall he saw Volume 1, and the only real problem I remember was that the animation gave him headaches (Which Volume 1 is especially guilty of, thank god Rooster Teeth actually uses animation software now). Dunno if he's seen any more of it. I know some of the other writing crew still watch it, and I've seen some fanart Phil did for a Nanoha crossover on Spacebattles.

>I would imagine at least a few of the
>Beacon students might be Jedi-in-training (and hanging with the Harry
>Potter crew). Ozpin as a Jedi Master strikes me as very likely, too.
>Oobleck's obviously hooked into the Speed Force.

Besides making their weapons too consistent, I don't think FI-era Jedi are quite appropriate for some of the Remnant students (*cough*Yang*cough). Ozpin I'm seeing more as an associate of Xaviers, in regards to school for the Interesting. Oobleck... is just weird.

>And what is the connection between Ein and Zwei?

Both dogs remain silent on this subject, and Edward only smiles...

Matrix Dragon, J. Random Nutter


#43, RE: NF Characters I want to see...
Posted by Verbena on Jul-29-16 at 09:11 AM
In response to message #40
>>I fully approve of Pyrrha getting to be in a setting less likely to
>>pull the events of Volume 3... Also, it's a place where she wouldn't
>>automatically stand out (Besides being adorable) so that'd make her
>>happy.

I do enjoy RWBY a great deal, and while I don't think Pyrrha was -screwed- like some other characters brought into UF have been (obviously, this was planned from the beginning, and it didn't feel cheap or vindictive) I do think the entire setting of RWBY could be pulled onto a remote planet almost verbatim. Failing that, yes, the characters could still easily fit in. Her as Themiscyrean fits very well too, as Gryphon stated--she WAS patterned after a Greek warrior, after all. Everyone in JNPR is patterned after a culture.

>
>... and subsequently Jaune as well.

Just wish we knew more about his powers.

>
>In thinking a bit more about this now that we know Gryphon actually
>knows what we're talking about, I would imagine at least a few of the
>Beacon students might be Jedi-in-training (and hanging with the Harry
>Potter crew). Ozpin as a Jedi Master strikes me as very likely, too.
>Oobleck's obviously hooked into the Speed Force.

Not as sure about this. It's great for their powers but is a poor fit for their weapons. And have you seen the leaked Season 4 trailer? Ruby's speed movement got a -massive- upgrade, and it honestly looks less like the Force and more like magic.

>
>And what is the connection between Ein and Zwei?

That is surely a question for the ages. XD


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#51, RE: NF Characters I want to see...
Posted by Bushido on Jul-30-16 at 05:43 PM
In response to message #43
Best version I can find of the Season 4 trailer https://youtu.be/oVzx3iR_0bw

#54, RE: NF Characters I want to see...
Posted by BobSchroeck on Aug-01-16 at 02:27 PM
In response to message #43
> I do think the entire setting of RWBY could be
>pulled onto a remote planet almost verbatim. Failing that, yes, the
>characters could still easily fit in. Her as Themiscyrean fits very
>well too, as Gryphon stated--she WAS patterned after a Greek warrior,
>after all. Everyone in JNPR is patterned after a culture.

I do agree that making Remnant a particularly odd colony planet -- kind of like Ragol squared -- would be the best way to manage the import. But that doesn't mean that we can't see Remnans in other contexts. (And yes, Themiscryan!Pyrrha works spectacularly well.)

And then there's this little bit from the other thread with new messages this afternoon:

>Daisuke Ido-Spengler, last seen way back in Scrapheap City Shuffle, is getting
>on in years and presumably has given up hunting rogue cyborgs with a rocket-
>assisted sledgehammer at this point, but he's still one of the galaxy's
>foremost cybersurgeons in 2410.

And suddenly I said to myself... Nora's grandpa. Or personal doctor, perhaps.

-- Bob
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My race is pacifist and does not believe in war. We kill only out of personal spite.


#48, RE: NF Characters I want to see...
Posted by Hotaru Lind on Jul-30-16 at 05:07 AM
In response to message #40
>And what is the connection between Ein and Zwei?

There's an idea I probably shouldn't stick out there.
A little adventure with the dogs of UF. Can you imagine the chaos Ein, Wolfgang, and Riddick could cause? Add in Zwei and the carnage would be terrifying... and cute can't forget cute.

Bewildered Gryphon: Okay the Klingon revolution happened how?


#49, RE: NF Characters I want to see...
Posted by Peter Eng on Jul-30-16 at 11:59 AM
In response to message #48
>>And what is the connection between Ein and Zwei?
>
>There's an idea I probably shouldn't stick out there.
>A little adventure with the dogs of UF. Can you imagine the chaos Ein,
>Wolfgang, and Riddick could cause? Add in Zwei and the carnage would
>be terrifying... and cute can't forget cute.
>
>Bewildered Gryphon: Okay the Klingon revolution happened how?

"According to Anthy, Chu-chu and Sergei were talking one night..."

Peter Eng
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Insert humorous comment here.


#50, RE: NF Characters I want to see...
Posted by Nathan on Jul-30-16 at 03:25 PM
In response to message #49
>"According to Anthy, Chu-chu and Sergei were talking one night..."

Serge carried the snacks, and the mouse, well, they needed someone with thumbs...

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The most wonderful thing about BBs
Is BBs are wonderful things
Their sides are made out of iron
Their guns are made out of pain
They're crashy smashy bashy flashy fun-fun-fun-fun-fun
But the most wonderful thing about BBs
Is there is more than one
The~re is more than one!


#53, RE: NF Characters I want to see...
Posted by ebony14 on Aug-01-16 at 09:18 AM
In response to message #50
Oh, God. It's the Legion of Super-Pets all over again. Now all we need is Beppo the Super-Monkey.

Ebony the Black Dragon

"Life is like an anole. Sometimes it's green. Sometimes it's brown. But it's always a small Caribbean lizard."


#55, RE: NF Characters I want to see...
Posted by SpottedKitty on Aug-01-16 at 11:31 PM
In response to message #53
>Oh, God. It's the Legion of Super-Pets all over again. Now all we need
>is Beppo the Super-Monkey.

Thanks, I had forgotten that particular fever dream of some hapless DC writer... ;)

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#56, RE: NF Characters I want to see...
Posted by Gryphon on Aug-02-16 at 00:11 AM
In response to message #53
>Oh, God. It's the Legion of Super-Pets all over again. Now all we need
>is Beppo the Super-Monkey.

We would probably go for more of a Lockheed and the Pet Avengers vibe.

--G.
Wolfgang and the Pets of Justice
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#57, RE: NF Characters I want to see...
Posted by The Traitor on Aug-02-16 at 01:21 PM
In response to message #56
"We were originally gonna call ourselves the Experts of Fluffiness, but PR said it might be seen as discrimination against, y'know, reptiles an' stuff."
-- A spokesbeing.

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#59, RE: NF Characters I want to see...
Posted by BobSchroeck on Aug-18-16 at 12:23 PM
In response to message #37
>Has RWBY been broached yet as a source for new characters? I
>think it goes without saying that there is an entire generation of new
>duelists in it...

And nearly two months later, I finally recall that UF!Zuse in the Korra storyline is partially Roman Torchwick... <sigh>

-- Bob
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My race is pacifist and does not believe in war. We kill only out of personal spite.


#58, RE: NF Characters I want to see...
Posted by The Traitor on Aug-18-16 at 08:32 AM
In response to message #0
LAST EDITED ON Aug-18-16 AT 08:35 AM (EDT)
 
Sorry to necro, but having really gotten into the new series of Robot Wars, I would like to ask if Sir Killalot is a minor celebrity in the robot community. Indeed, I think it'd be kind of awesome if he was a mech-jockey, perhaps piloting something form Super Robot Wars, but that's for you to decide.

Also, he had a crap single out in the Nineties. That alone should get him into UF. =]

Also, he looks like this:

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"She's old, she's lame, she's barren too, // "She's not worth feed or hay, // "But I'll give her this," - he blew smoke at me - // "She was something in her day." -- Garnet Rogers, Small Victory

FiMFiction.net: we might accept blatant porn involving the cast of My Little Pony but as God is my witness we have standards.

Here it is. "Robot Wars (Android Love)". I am so sorry.


#60, RE: NF Characters I want to see...
Posted by Gryphon on Aug-18-16 at 12:55 PM
In response to message #58
dammit, people, how many times do I have to tell you to start a new thread once in a while

Also, more of a Shunt man myself, but I could see it.

--G.
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#61, RE: NF Characters I want to see...
Posted by DaPatman89 on Aug-20-16 at 04:16 PM
In response to message #58
>Also, he had a crap single out in the Nineties. That alone
>should get him into UF. =]

>Here it is. "Robot Wars (Android Love)". I am so sorry.

Which is worse - the fact that I used to own that single, or the fact that I could still remember the chorus before clicking on that link?

Mind you, I always liked Sgt. Bash more. Something to do with the flamethrower, I think - it's always satisfying to see something set on fire.


#62, RE: NF Characters I want to see...
Posted by NHO on Oct-13-16 at 10:51 PM
In response to message #0
Not a new thread, yet!

And Nono! The Buster Machine №7!
In context of NF, she could be redone as Iczer 7. And anti-Ifurita.

And lack of Nova in Cephiro sections saddens me, too.