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Forum Name: The Legacy of Korra
Topic ID: 54
#0, Spirits in the Material World
Posted by Proginoskes on May-15-14 at 07:42 PM
Not sure if this belongs here in UF General or in Source Material or what, but I have to put it somewhere if I'm going to post it at all.

Anyway, it struck me that even though the underpinnings of UF's metaphysics isn't really compatible with those of In Nomine, IN Spirits (both Ethereal and Celestial) would love the UF universe for how permissive the Roles would be.

In particular, I can't help but think that Gojira Nakajima is actually the Role of this guy.

Then there are the classes of being that are rare or unique in UF but strongly resemble beings from IN. For example, Virginia Shepherd, having been elevated from rank-and-file einherjar to "exceedingly minor god" (I think the phrase was), would be instantly labelled a Saint by somebody from IN.

On an almost completely unrelated note, where is Diqiu's Spirit World, Celestially? Is it a Dream Domain? Or is it (and this just occurred to me, and is probably more likely) something like the Realm of Dream but not reachable from it? The only thing I feel reasonably sure of is that it's not a full World like Cephiro or the original Nine Worlds.


#1, RE: Spirits in the Material World
Posted by Gryphon on May-15-14 at 07:59 PM
In response to message #0
LAST EDITED ON May-15-14 AT 08:03 PM (EDT)
 
>On an almost completely unrelated note, where is Diqiu's Spirit World,
>Celestially? Is it a Dream Domain? Or is it (and this just occurred to
>me, and is probably more likely) something like the Realm of
>Dream but not reachable from it? The only thing I feel reasonably sure
>of is that it's not a full World like Cephiro or the original
>Nine Worlds.

The Spirit World is sort of a... well, direct metaphor doesn't really do it, the result becomes a little like the classic explanation of Einsteinian gravity that involves a bowling ball stretching a rubber sheet, but basically, it's a fold in the astral plane, like the æther is doubled over on itself with Dìqiú tucked inside the "pocket" thus formed. (Like a tennis ball hidden in a fold of a blanket, only in four or five dimensions, and what's on the other side of the blanket is Asgard - that's why it's simple, indeed trivial, to get from the Spirit World to Valhalla and vice versa if you know the route. All the afterlives are connected.)

Another vaguely accurate oversimplification would be to think of it as a kind of æthereal deadwater, where the river is the Celestial Plane and the land is Midgard (and Dìqiú is an island in the middle of the deadwater, but there are a few spots where you can wade to the mainland if you know where they are).

The Dìqiú/Spirit World system is, indeed, not a complete alternate cosmos like Cephiro - not a World by the nomenclature used in the Asgardian Celestial System. The corporeal part of it is technically part of Midgard, albeit only reachable by æthereal transit through the folded spur of Asgard that envelops it.

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