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trigger
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Jul-15-01, 07:27 PM (EST) |
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"Crossover references"
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I've just started re-reading this series again. It's the one I read when I need a pick me up. Anyway, I noticed a couple cross over references in Battle 01. One has to do the with Show-that-will-not-be-named; it's only one sentence, but it bemused me because of the Ban. The other was an NXE reference. Did anyone (other than our august hosts) notice that Colonel Lethbridge-Stuart is Cammy's uperior? I think this one predates NXE by a couple years - both in terms of writing and in terms of setting. Is this a parallel universe thing, a coincidence, or accident? Second, more ludicrous question: will NXE:TMP include Cammy? Finally, did anyone else catch references to other Eyrie works in this series? I think the Skuld reference is an interesting one, but beyond that? randomly, t. who thinks is series is FUN! Trigger Argee trigger_argee@hotmail.com Manon, Orado, etc. Denton, never leave home without it.
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Gryphon
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Jul-15-01, 08:11 PM (EST) |
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2. "RE: Crossover references"
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LAST EDITED ON Jul-15-01 AT 08:12 PM (EDT) >Anyway, I noticed a couple cross over references in Battle 01. One >has to do the with Show-that-will-not-be-named; it's only one >sentence, but it bemused me because of the Ban. I'm not above mocking things I dislike. :) >The other was an NXE >reference. Did anyone (other than our august hosts) notice that >Colonel Lethbridge-Stuart is Cammy's uperior? ... well, actually, that's a Doctor Who reference. They both are. The one in WL is Brigadier Alistair Gordon Lethbridge-Stewart (whose name I spelled wrong back in the day - sloppy research), who was a regular character on Doctor Who during the late Jon Pertwee's run as the Doctor and reappeared several times thereafter, the last being in the Seventh Doctor episode "Battlefield" with Sylvester McCoy. He was portrayed by actor Nicholas Courtney. The one in NXE is a notional descendent of the Brigadier's, Colonel J.A. Lethbridge-Stewart. (We may assume, thanks to the time span which has passed, that his faithful Sergeant Benton is a descendent of the Brigadier's Sergeant Benton, as well. Circumstances, as the S'pht are wont to point out, are cyclical.) >I think this one predates NXE by a couple years - both in terms of >writing and in terms of setting. It predates NXE by quite a few years in terms of setting; it was set in the present day when the series began (in 1994), where NXE starts in the summer of 2015. (Which all ties fairly neatly into the Doctor Who reference inherent in the Lethbridge-Stewarts appearing; at the time that the Brigadier and his United Nations Intelligence Taskforce appeared on that program, in the late 1960s, those episodes were set in an ill-defined near future - allusions were made to it being the late 1990s. Which would make the adventures of UNIT depicted on Doctor Who, which usually involved mysterious alien entities, part and parcel of the Hidden War. :) >Finally, did anyone else catch references to other Eyrie works in this >series? I think the Skuld reference is an interesting one, but beyond >that? Again, this is more a matter of spotting a common reference between two Eyrie productions than a reference from one to the other. Our version of Skuld is from Kosuke Fujishima's Oh My Goddess!. Mentioning her in WL is most likely a sign that that version of me is also a fan of that manga. :) --G. -><- Benjamin D. Hutchins, Co-Founder, Editor in Chief, Netadmin Eyrie Productions, Unlimited http://www.eyrie-productions.com/
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merlinthp
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Jul-18-01, 06:56 PM (EST) |
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3. "RE: Crossover references"
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>The one in WL is Brigadier Alistair Gordon Lethbridge-Stewart >(whose name I spelled wrong back in the day - sloppy research), who >was a regular character on Doctor Who during the late Jon >Pertwee's run as the Doctor and reappeared several times thereafter, >the last being in the Seventh Doctor episode "Battlefield" with >Sylvester McCoy. He was portrayed by actor Nicholas Courtney. The dear old Brig is alive, well and appearing in Big Finish's Doctor Who audio plays to this day (see here for more info). In "Minuet in Hell" he appeared with Paul McGann's eighth Doctor. >Lethbridge-Stewarts appearing; at the time that the Brigadier and his >United Nations Intelligence Taskforce appeared on that program, in the >late 1960s, those episodes were set in an ill-defined near future - >allusions were made to it being the late 1990s. Which would make the Welcome to one of the biggest debates in Doctor Who fandom: dating UNIT. There are a number of dates given in the show. For example, Sarah Jane Smith states she's from 1980. The Brigadier retired from UNIT and took up teaching in 1976, and didn't stop that until 1983. Ben Aaronovitch claims his story "Battlefield" took place in 1997. Basically, trying to fit all of the dates (directly from series dialogue or from clues such as calendars seen on-screen, scripts, etc) produces something akin to the Warren Commission's Magic Bullet theory. -- Merlin the Happy Pig "No, that isn't a copy of Lance Parkin's A History of The Universe stuffed behind that cushion." |
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Croaker
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Aug-13-01, 04:11 PM (EST) |
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4. "RE: Crossover references"
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LAST EDITED ON Aug-14-01 AT 02:48 PM (EDT) >>The one in WL is Brigadier Alistair Gordon Lethbridge-Stewart >>(whose name I spelled wrong back in the day - sloppy research), who >>was a regular character on Doctor Who during the late Jon >>Pertwee's run as the Doctor and reappeared several times thereafter, >>the last being in the Seventh Doctor episode "Battlefield" with >>Sylvester McCoy. He was portrayed by actor Nicholas Courtney. > >The dear old Brig is alive, well and appearing in Big Finish's Doctor >Who audio plays to this day (see here for >more info). In "Minuet in Hell" >he appeared with Paul McGann's eighth Doctor. Don't forget the novels. He gets a good look in No Future, Happy Endings and Shadows of Avalon, among others. The Brig of the 90's is a much more enlightened fellow than the "Thud and Blunder" Brig of the 60's. Very interesting to see the evolution of the character. > >>Lethbridge-Stewarts appearing; at the time that the Brigadier and his >>United Nations Intelligence Taskforce appeared on that program, in the >>late 1960s, those episodes were set in an ill-defined near future - >>allusions were made to it being the late 1990s. Which would make the > >Welcome to one of the biggest debates in Doctor Who fandom: dating >UNIT. There are a number of dates given in the show. For example, >Sarah Jane Smith states she's from 1980. The Brigadier retired from >UNIT and took up teaching in 1976, and didn't stop that until >1983. Ben Aaronovitch claims his story "Battlefield" took place in >1997. > >Basically, trying to fit all of the dates (directly from series >dialogue or from clues such as calendars seen on-screen, scripts, etc) >produces something akin to the Warren Commission's Magic Bullet >theory. Indeed. But fun. :) > >-- >Merlin the Happy Pig >"No, that isn't a copy of Lance Parkin's A History of The >Universe stuffed behind that cushion." -- "Eat hot blazing photonic pulse fire, you alien invading human-abducting saucer-alien bastards!" -- Captain of EAS Bellerophon, firing on a Vree cruiser.
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