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"Notes on Operation Archangel"
 
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This story started out as a very different one. The first scene in what became Part 1 was originally (shortly after I finished ME2) the beginning of a shorter story called Apology Accepted, in which the Normandy team basically did just what they were setting out to do. In that version, Kaidan doesn't win the argument, he leaves, and the rest of them launch a Mission Impossible-style caper with a side order of murder: a series of system overrides performed by Kevirin on the building containing Needa's office (mentioned in the surviving fragment) force him onto the street, where Garrus Golgo 13s him from the top of a skywalk between two other buildings some distance up the street. Liara walks out of a nearby alley and watches him check out (his last words are not actually an apology, but rather "Wedge scum. It was my job"), delivers the Vader line to his corpse, and they all fade into the shadows.

That's a straight-up Exile revenge storyline, all anger and heartbreak and nobody's-really-the-good-guy, and in 1993 or so it would have been the only way it would even have occurred to me to handle it, but I wasn't happy with it in 2010. For one thing, I'd already done that story at least twice, and besides, I'd like to think I've outgrown that crap. I was prepared to just 86 the whole thing, though I quite liked some of the dialogue in the opening scene, when Phil suggested I might try to rework it into something a little more heroic - something more akin to the "hey, look, you guys, the galaxy is shit right now, but maybe we can do a little good" tone Marty Rose set for the Exile part of Hammer Time. Something, well, more Shepardian. The way I play Commander Shepard, she's certainly not above a spot of revenge, but contrary to the Klingon proverb, she believes it should only be served hot. Assassination isn't her style.

I had the outline of Operation Archangel in fairly short order - you can find references to it in Star-Crossed. (Apart from the Archangel's appearance itself, there's Tali asking the Conclave, "Did the crew of the Minuteman Nine ignore us when GENOM came for us after the fall of the Wayward Son?") I just wasn't sure exactly how the job was going to come off until - well, just the other day, really. I wasn't entirely sure whether Needa was going to survive the story until I actually got to the last scene he's in (which you may note is partly informed by a remark one of you made after Part 1 hit the site). In the end, I think Shepard would approve considerably more of the job they did than the one they were going to do. They did some good, helped some people out, and ultimately Needa's probably more screwed than if they'd killed him. :)

In other, more specific notes:

- Shepard choking up at the end of On Her Majesty's Secret Service: The is a spoiler, but given that the movie came out in 1969, I'm not going to worry about it. This James Bond film, in which the underrated George Lazenby plays 007, ends with Bond's wedding to Tracy di Vicenzo (played by the sublime Diana Rigg), who is almost immediately murdered by SPECTRE supremo Ernst Stavro Blofeld. It closes with a shattered Bond cradling his dead bride's body while the credits roll and Louis Armstrong sings "We Have All the Time in the World". When OHMSS came around on Normandy movie night, this sequence never failed to reduce Commander Shepard to a blubbering wreck - much to Liara's surprise, the first time it happened.

- The PWEI logo on the Minuteman Nine graphic is an actual icon taken from a Pop Will Eat Itself album cover, though I can't remember which one now.
UPDATE: The Pop Will Eat Itself Cure for Sanity, 1990. Includes one of PWEI's best tracks, "Dance of the Mad Bastards" (though I prefer the 7" mix on the 16 Different Flavours of Hell best-of comp). Live and alive with the dead-ahead sound...

- Including the Minuteman Nine was a complete whim, but I like the way it establishes the ship as one of those perennial items. Without its appearance here, it isn't as obvious that the one in The Antianeira Incident is the same ship and not just a namesake. Its name comes from one of the tracks on PWEI's This Is the Day... album (of which more later), "Shortwave Transmission on 'Up to the Minuteman Nine'". I don't know what the title itself alludes to (if anything - PWEI were often pleased to be quite random), and the track itself doesn't have any lyrics that might illuminate it further.

- As I noted in the discussion of Part 2, I deliberately left vague exactly what Ash considers a damn shame about Yeoman Chambers - whether she was a GENOM sleeper agent, or a victim of one, or something else entirely. Just that she's not with them here (though that doesn't necessarily mean she's dead - most of the Normandy's crew did survive, but didn't go on the road with Shepard's old team), and Ash feels a bit wistful about something to do with why not. This is called "not closing a door you don't have to". :)

- Both of the quarians we've seen returning from pilgrimage have used bits of Earth poetry as their identification keyphrase (Kevirin quotes Lord Byron, Tali'Shukra Rudyard Kipling). This is mainly just because I'm not a poet.

- The Sufficiency's name is a nod to one of the vestiges of the WPI Plan that was still in effect when I was a student there - the sophomore-year "yeah, OK, we do some humanities" project requirement they had to satisfy the accreditation body that there was some culture going on at the school. That they called it "The Humanities Sufficiency" may reveal exactly how important the school's administration really thought it was. :)

- The quarian warships we see in this serial, the Balado and the Forteviot, are named after towns in the Scottish district of Perth and Kinross. Not in-story, of course; to the quarians, they're named after planets in the old Rannoch Hegemony. (Rannoch, the quarian homeworld, shares a name with Loch Rannoch in Scotland, y'see, which is also in Perth and Kinross.)

- The idea of monkey-wrenching the Avenger's computer through an interface intended to permit the Avenger to override ships it's captured is probably the single brainwave that made this story take off again. Once I thought of that, the rest of it started falling into place. It, and the borrowed Covenant boarding craft, gets Our Heroes aboard and into position for mayhem without having to run the gantlet of an airlock breakout, and I was able to leave it ambiguous as to just where they were in the sequence at the end of Part 3, which was fun.

- There wasn't a good place to mention this without a lot of crocky exposition (and there's already a need for enough of that, because stuff happening inside computers is hard to explain any other way unless you're doing Tron), but I suspect UF-universe asari aren't actually all innately psionic per se, but rather Force-sensitive. Those of you who have played the old West End Games Star Wars RPG might remember the "Alien Force Adept" character archetype. Which makes the levitating-Needa scene even more Vadery, though that's not why I thought of it; it just seems to make more sense in the context of the UF universe than "some humans are biotic, and some krogan, and oh yeah, all asari".

- The three Pop Will Eat Itself tracks cited in Part 4 are the first three of their 1989 album This Is the Day... This Is the Hour... This Is THIS!, which I was turned onto very shortly after arriving at WPI. "Wise Up! Sucker" in particular is sort of one of the classic Exile defining tracks, and as previously noted, the Minuteman Nine was named after part of one of the song titles back when I did Rite of Passage. It doesn't appear here, but still another This Is the Day track got a lot of airplay as a Goldfish Warning used by the SPECWARCOM PWEI crews back in the Golden Age, a tradition the Normandy gang may revive. That one, "Radio PWEI", includes the verse:

OK, everybody, we're the high-tech gurus
All the rage, always on the front-page news
TV and video
Here to go go on Radio PWEI
Turn it on and turn it up high
Like a ten-ton truck, don't give a fuck
And if you don't like the Poppies that's your hard luck

- It's straight out of her character arc in the first Mass Effect that Ash Williams likes "Ulysses", which made me laugh out loud when she first quoted it, since I'd been a fan for years by that point.

- Speaking of Ash, her full rank and most significant postnominals appeared in Part 4 because I wanted to establish that her time as Gin Shepard's right-hand woman had pretty well completely erased the blocks to her career that her family history had imposed before they met. Indeed, though they were all highly honored for their part in driving back the unwritten but often alluded to geth invasion of Salusia in 2280 (more or less the UF universe's equivalent to the first game), Ash, being Salusian, came in for the lion's share of hardware - at least partly, as Geoff noted, because Asrial likes to tell uppity admirals and generals to go fuck their skulls when they get all old-boy-network on someone she figures deserves better. Taking an enlisted soldier whose family has been blackballed since 1870 and making her a Knight of the Order of Victory is a not-very-subtle two fingers to the Ministry for War from the Crown. She'd have made her an officer, too, but as Ash put it, "Respectfully, your Majesty, I work for a living." :)

- I think the last time I put a Tommy blaster in a UF story was UF4. I'd almost forgotten about 'em, but there's something about Kev that just dragged it out of the archive and tossed it at me when I needed to arm him for the last fight.

- "Thick as Thieves" is kind of the unofficial Laura Kinney theme, but certain of the lyrics were just too perfect for Force Overlord's situation in this scene for me to resist reapplying it here:

We are the left-behind
Lost on the roads you followed
We are the compromise
We've opened up our eyes
Fight the hand that feeds you lies
This time we make it right
Don't need a reason tonight
So sick of waiting for something to change my life

I almost went completely perverse and tracked that fight to "Hollywood" by Michael Bublé ("put it in your head, baby, Hollywood is dead"), but I simply can't bring myself to use that song for a fight that doesn't have either Deadpool or Rosie the Ravager (or both) in it.

- The ice bag was an afterthought, but I thought it perfectly encapsulated Liara's combination of badassery and haplessness - that she could deliver such an epic headbutt without flinching or blowing her line afterward, but would require some quality time with a couch and some ice after.

- All the goodbyes were fun, but my favorite is the last one.

- Replacing Kev with another, greener quarian info tech was a last-minute whim; if we see them again, presumably breaking in the rookie will be part of the vibe. :)

- Added 2012/12/12 I left this out of the notes initially because I was hoping someone would spot it, but if anyone did nobody mentioned it, so: we've seen the 71 Centauri system in UF before, or will see it again, depending on whether you're talking about release order or the in-story timeline. The Class M planet in that system will eventually be known as Jezebel, home of the Spacer's Rest Resort and Relaxation Center, Elisabeth Shustal, proprietor.

--G.
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  RE: Notes on Operation Archangel Droken Nov-29-12 1
  RE: Notes on Operation Archangel Mephronmoderator Nov-29-12 2
     RE: Notes on Operation Archangel eriktown Nov-29-12 3
         RE: Notes on Operation Archangel Gryphonadmin Nov-29-12 5
     RE: Notes on Operation Archangel Gryphonadmin Nov-29-12 4
         RE: Notes on Operation Archangel Prince Charon Dec-05-12 15
         RE: Notes on Operation Archangel The Traitor Dec-05-12 16
     RE: Notes on Operation Archangel laudre Nov-29-12 6
         RE: Notes on Operation Archangel Gryphonadmin Nov-29-12 9
             RE: Notes on Operation Archangel Offsides Dec-06-12 17
                 RE: Notes on Operation Archangel Gryphonadmin Dec-06-12 18
                     RE: Notes on Operation Archangel Offsides Dec-07-12 19
  RE: Notes on Operation Archangel ebony14 Nov-29-12 7
     RE: Notes on Operation Archangel Gryphonadmin Nov-29-12 8
         RE: Notes on Operation Archangel ebony14 Nov-30-12 12
         RE: Notes on Operation Archangel Pasha Dec-02-12 14
  RE: Notes on Operation Archangel Meagen Nov-29-12 10
     RE: Notes on Operation Archangel Gryphonadmin Nov-29-12 11
  RE: Notes on Operation Archangel Peter Eng Nov-30-12 13

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1. "RE: Notes on Operation Archangel"
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   With the explanation and a quick reread, the bit about Yeoman Chambers makes more "open-ended" sense. My first reactive understanding was a more snarky, dark chuckled kind of line.

In all though, fantastic work; I could readily and (often) gleefully hear the lines delivered in appropriate voice. And as I said in part 5's discussion, Liara getting Vader's line was priceless.

I'm definitely glad you went for more heroic on this one. I agree that it fits the bill far better than the original angst.

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2. "RE: Notes on Operation Archangel"
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   Just to follow up:

the image I had was Ash's name coming up in a Triskelion meeting for honors, which of course at that level has Her Majesty present, and a couple of the old-boy-network types looking discomfited, and one of them getting up to say, "Your Majesty, the Williams clan is not going to get recognition in any military I am part of!"

And Asrial smiles and says in a pleasant and almost respectful tone, "Well, then, not only are you fired, but go fuck your skull." (All of this is in Salusian, and I presume that directive even more offensive in that language, in the same way that Russians can drop the most astonishingly profane statements either in deeply heated anger or a cheerful aside.)

As the general's jaw drops, and most of the general staff stare in shock (and a couple of them in adoring awe), the Consort says, very quietly, "I know you like to speak your mind, Asrial, but Jesus."

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3. "RE: Notes on Operation Archangel"
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   This was fun. I agree with the others in this thread - going with a more heroic tone was definitely the right call, especially for this bunch.

Coincidentally, the PWEI music cues were almost perfectly timed as I read the scene with "This Is The Day..." playing.


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5. "RE: Notes on Operation Archangel"
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   >Coincidentally, the PWEI music cues were almost perfectly timed as I
>read the scene with "This Is The Day..." playing.

The conclusion that, given that the Minuteman Nine is involved, we needed some PWEI on board was fairly obvious. I thought about reprising the PWEI track that accompanied the ship's very first appearance in RoP ("Ich Bin Ein Auslander" [sic]*), but while I was thumbing through the library I hit the beginning of "Preaching to the Perverted" and realized that the intro really needed to be pumping out of every speaker on the Star Destroyer at the moment when the team comes off the boarding craft:

Perverts: on your knees
For what you are about to receive!

The placement of the other two was kind of worked out backward from there. :)

--G.
* my German instructor informs me that you don't use the definite article in statements like this, so properly it'd just be "Ich bin Ausländer"
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4. "RE: Notes on Operation Archangel"
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   >Just to follow up:
>
>the image I had was Ash's name coming up in a Triskelion meeting for
>honors, which of course at that level has Her Majesty present, and a
>couple of the old-boy-network types looking discomfited, and one of
>them getting up to say, "Your Majesty, the Williams clan is not going
>to get recognition in any military I am part of!"

"Hmm. Well, General, since your long and - if I may say so - radiantly undistinguished career has just come to an end, that shouldn't be a problem. You may now go fuck your skull and get started on your memoirs." (sunny smile) "The Crown thanks you for your service."

(All of
>this is in Salusian, and I presume that directive even more offensive
>in that language, in the same way that Russians can drop the most
>astonishingly profane statements either in deeply heated anger or a
>cheerful aside.)

Being a member of the imperial family, Asrial would be particularly good at this, able to utter outright obscenities in such a way that many of the people within earshot are able to convince themselves that they most not have heard her right. Although her bodyguard's occasional explosive giggling does rather give the game away sometimes. It's so hard to get good ninja help these days. :)

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15. "RE: Notes on Operation Archangel"
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   :mad grin: I like it.

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16. "RE: Notes on Operation Archangel"
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   "Asrial, I'd like you to meet our newest member of the diplomatic corps, Mr. Malcolm Tucker..."

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6. "RE: Notes on Operation Archangel"
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   >Russians can drop the most
>astonishingly profane statements either in deeply heated anger or a
>cheerful aside.

Trivia: many languages have different sorts of modes of speech -- one you'd use while addressing a social superior, a different one for a social equal, different modes depending on your own gender, etc. Russian has one, mat, that is for obscenity. It's so vulgar that its use in public spaces is punishable by law.

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9. "RE: Notes on Operation Archangel"
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   >>Russians can drop the most
>>astonishingly profane statements either in deeply heated anger or a
>>cheerful aside.
>
>Trivia: many languages have different sorts of modes of speech -- one
>you'd use while addressing a social superior, a different one for a
>social equal, different modes depending on your own gender, etc.
>Russian has one, mat, that is for obscenity. It's so
>vulgar that its use in public spaces is punishable by law.

That's awesome. Cheltarese definitely needs that.

Many years ago, when I worked at the Katahdin Times, I did a feature article one year for Veterans' Day in which I put out a call for WWII veterans in the tri-town area to stop by the office and talk with me about their experiences. One of the responses I got was from a man who was part of the occupation force in Japan immediately after the war, who told me the best story I was ever not allowed to publish. His job was to drive around the Japanese countryside with an interpreter and a couple of bodyguards ferreting out hidden supply caches the Japanese Army had been hoarding against the invasion that didn't end up happening, then distributing the part that wasn't ammunition to the general populace at large, who were having a tough winter provisions-wise.

Both phases of the job involved a lot of interfacing with local dignitaries - the mayors of towns and such - in the first place because they often had leads on where the Army's stuff was hidden and in the second because they were the contact points for getting it into the hands of the public. Apart from the interpreter he had with him, our man had also been issued a phrasebook of what he'd been assured were the most polite and respectful ways of posing various common questions and whatnot. For the first month or so, he never used it, preferring to rely on the services of his translator.

One day, while speaking with the mayor of a town out in the hinterland someplace, our man was caught short and decided he didn't want to trouble his interpreter with the matter, so he got out his phrasebook, hunted down what it told him was the Japanese for "Excuse me, honored sir, but where may I find the restroom in this building?", and carefully pronounced the phonetic rendering.

The mayor, the translator, and everyone else in the room stared at him in horror for a couple of seconds, and then the mayor burst out laughing, and kept it up long enough that he was nearly reduced to tears. Eventually he was able to explain that the U.S. Army might need to re-work its diplomatic phrasebook a little, because what our man had just asked him was more along the lines of, "Hey, buddy, where's the shithouse in this dump?"

It was, I was informed, an excellent icebreaker, and his working relationship with that particular local dignitary was among the best he had during that assignment, but still. :)

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17. "RE: Notes on Operation Archangel"
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   That is a classic story - even better than the one my cousin told about how he brought my grandparents and father over to the US. I'm sure that it would have worked out differently had he not been reading from a phrasebook or the mayor hadn't had a sense of humor, but you gotta admit it's hysterical :)

For those who care about my cousin's story, the short form is that he was a US Army Sargent stationed in Germany, and his father told him to go visit my grandfather his next leave and get the family to the US. So he showed up at the US embassy in Brussels in his full dress uniform (including the various medals he got from hitting the beaches at Normandy (and losing a leg in the process)) and was escorted right in to the ambassador (past the line of people waiting outside) who asked "what can I do for you?"

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18. "RE: Notes on Operation Archangel"
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   >For those who care about my cousin's story, the short form is
>that he was a US Army Sargent stationed in Germany, and his father
>told him to go visit my grandfather his next leave and get the family
>to the US. So he showed up at the US embassy in Brussels in his full
>dress uniform (including the various medals he got from hitting the
>beaches at Normandy (and losing a leg in the process)) and was
>escorted right in to the ambassador (past the line of people waiting
>outside) who asked "what can I do for you?"

I like this a lot, but I'm a little confused - was your cousin a Belgian serving in the US forces, or had his branch of the family already emigrated at some earlier point? Just trying to pin down the connection to Belgium.

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19. "RE: Notes on Operation Archangel"
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   >>For those who care about my cousin's story, the short form is
>>that he was a US Army Sargent stationed in Germany, and his father
>>told him to go visit my grandfather his next leave and get the family
>>to the US. So he showed up at the US embassy in Brussels in his full
>>dress uniform (including the various medals he got from hitting the
>>beaches at Normandy (and losing a leg in the process)) and was
>>escorted right in to the ambassador (past the line of people waiting
>>outside) who asked "what can I do for you?"
>
>I like this a lot, but I'm a little confused - was your cousin a
>Belgian serving in the US forces, or had his branch of the family
>already emigrated at some earlier point? Just trying to pin down the
>connection to Belgium.
>
Yeah, I think I made the short form a little too short...

My father was born in occupied Belgium during the war, to a couple of Polish Jews. Needless to say, that all 3 of them survived the war was a miracle in itself (and there's a whole other story there). My cousin was an American (I think he was born here, but I'm pretty sure both of his parents weren't) who served in the US Army and lost the lower half of a leg storming the beaches at Normandy; he was stationed in Germany after the war for a number of years though I don't know how many. My cousin's father told him to use his influence (since US servicemen were mostly well-respected in post-war Europe still) to help my grandfather and his family come to America. My father and his family arrived here in 1950 when he was 7 (and no, they didn't go through Ellis Island for some reason, which escapes me at the moment).

And now you know... the rest of the story. (With apologies to Paul Harvey.)

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7. "RE: Notes on Operation Archangel"
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   - Both of the quarians we've seen returning from pilgrimage have used bits of Earth poetry as their identification keyphrase (Kevirin quotes Lord Byron, Tali'Shukra Rudyard Kipling). This is mainly just because I'm not a poet.

Which means that somewhere along the line, there was a quarian that returned from pilgramage with "There was a young man from Nantucket...."


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8. "RE: Notes on Operation Archangel"
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   >- Both of the quarians we've seen returning from pilgrimage have
>used bits of Earth poetry as their identification keyphrase (Kevirin
>quotes Lord Byron, Tali'Shukra Rudyard Kipling). This is mainly just
>because I'm not a poet.

>
>Which means that somewhere along the line, there was a quarian that
>returned from pilgramage with "There was a young man from
>Nantucket...."

"Sing, goddess, of the rage of Achilles son of Peleus, that unquenchable wrath which brought such sorrow upon the Achaeans... "

"(Fuck, this is gonna be a while.)"

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ebony14
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12. "RE: Notes on Operation Archangel"
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   >>- Both of the quarians we've seen returning from pilgrimage have
>>used bits of Earth poetry as their identification keyphrase (Kevirin
>>quotes Lord Byron, Tali'Shukra Rudyard Kipling). This is mainly just
>>because I'm not a poet.

>>
>>Which means that somewhere along the line, there was a quarian that
>>returned from pilgramage with "There was a young man from
>>Nantucket...."
>
>"Sing, goddess, of the rage of Achilles son of Peleus, that
>unquenchable wrath which brought such sorrow upon the Achaeans... "
>
>"(Fuck, this is gonna be a while.)"
>

Yeaaaaah, that'd probably result in a change of Pilgramage Protocol.

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14. "RE: Notes on Operation Archangel"
In response to message #8
 
   >>- Both of the quarians we've seen returning from pilgrimage have
>>used bits of Earth poetry as their identification keyphrase (Kevirin
>>quotes Lord Byron, Tali'Shukra Rudyard Kipling). This is mainly just
>>because I'm not a poet.

>>
>>Which means that somewhere along the line, there was a quarian that
>>returned from pilgramage with "There was a young man from
>>Nantucket...."
>
>"Sing, goddess, of the rage of Achilles son of Peleus, that
>unquenchable wrath which brought such sorrow upon the Achaeans... "
>
>"(Fuck, this is gonna be a while.)"


Adding in the Popping and Locking that were in vogue in the late 2390s, this leads to the theory that around the say, 2410, you'll get someone who comes back from pilgrimage with:

"I can't stand it, I know you planned it
I'm gonna set it straight, this Watergate
I can't stand rocking when I'm in here
'Cause your crystal ball ain't so crystal clear

So while you sit back and wonder why
I got this fucking thorn in my side
Oh my God, it's a mirage
I'm tellin' y'all, it's a sabotage"

That, or it's a signal to the fleet to destroy the ship. ;-)

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Oh yes.
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10. "RE: Notes on Operation Archangel"
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   > This story started out as a very different one. The first scene in what became
> Part 1 was originally (shortly after I finished ME2) the beginning of a shorter
> story called Apology Accepted, in which the Normandy team basically did just
> what they were setting out to do.

> I was prepared to just 86 the whole thing, though I quite liked some of the
> dialogue in the opening scene,

At the risk of sounding somewhat creepy-obsessive-profiling about it, may I ask if this was the post you made at the time?

(I did not actually remember that this whole time, honest. I was browsing through old forum posts for want of anything better to do when it caught my eye.)

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11. "RE: Notes on Operation Archangel"
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   >At the risk of sounding somewhat creepy-obsessive-profiling about it,
>may I ask if this was the post you made at the time?

I believe it was, yes.

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13. "RE: Notes on Operation Archangel"
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   > - "Thick as Thieves" is kind of the unofficial Laura Kinney theme,
>but certain of the lyrics were just too perfect for Force Overlord's
>situation in this scene for me to resist reapplying it here:
>
>We are the left-behind
>Lost on the roads you followed
>We are the compromise
>We've opened up our eyes
>Fight the hand that feeds you lies
>This time we make it right
>Don't need a reason tonight
>So sick of waiting for something to change my life

>

It also offers me a mental image of two doors exploding inward in slow motion, to collide in the middle of the room as the mayhem begins. It's that grinding lead-in that does it.

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