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"GG 2/VI: L'Intérêt d'une Divulgation Complète"
 
   In the next Gallian Gothic, the Scarlet Mansion's guest is settling in, and preparations are underway for the next full moon—but as busy as everyone is, there's still time for a quiet moment or two along the way.

Act VI: "L'Intérêt d'une Divulgation Complète"

--G.
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1. "RE: GG 2/VI: L'Intérêt d'une Divulgation Complète"
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   The future nostalgia for Gryph's waffles is adorable, though I suspect some would call it a bit mind-bending.

> "I would have saved the money and simply
> killed him."

Remilia the Elder is a good woman. She knows there are three types of homicide: criminal, justifiable, and laudatory.

> Sakuya rolled her eyes, laughing. "If I
> ever run out of syrup for breakfast," she
> remarked, "I'll just bore a hole in you
> and let out the sap."
> "Hush, woman, I'm being gallant here."'

That's just plain adorable.

> "Awake and alive, loved
> and loving, fighting to protect and
> survive,"

Yep. Remilia hasn't yet put together that Gryph is from a future with thousands of sapient races, and he knows good people from just about all of them and has had lovers from a pretty decent share. Hopefully, when she finally comes into contact with greater galactic society, that may finally disabuse her of the notion that people would consider vampires as something uniquely terrible, rather than just neighbors with odd dietary and skin protection habits.

> "Uu~!"

I really did not even think about the possibility of you including that somewhere. Well done.

All in all, a nice comfy movement, and I can't wait for the next one.


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4. "RE: GG 2/VI: L'Intérêt d'une Divulgation Complète"
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   >Hopefully,
>when she finally comes into contact with greater galactic society,
>that may finally disabuse her of the notion that people would consider
>vampires as something uniquely terrible, rather than just neighbors
>with odd dietary and skin protection habits.

Her head knows that already, but her heart is still smarting from the 10th of Floréal. Although she's at least game to try things like walking into the Colmar mairie and declaring herself, and is planning to go to Paris and do the same. She'll get there, and may not even need the whole galaxy to do it. :)

(Anyway, there's something of a gap to be bridged between "live in a community where there are vampires without seeking them out and torching their house" and "marry into a vampire family", at least in her mind. These things were undertaken with considerable care even back when they were valued members of medieval/early modern society.)

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2. "RE: GG 2/VI: L'Intérêt d'une Divulgation Complète"
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   Nice "slice of life" story, Gryph!

One thing bothers me, though. Sakuya says she took Flan's measurements before her trip on the TARDIS, but Flan was already mad when she entered the household. I thought Remilia kept Flan isolated from the servants. Of course, I suppose The World would make it easier, if a little awkward, to take Flan's measurements.

I have this image of Remilia holding back a snarling, vamped-out Flan one second, and the next has Flan standing in front of a mirror in brand new clothes and looking totally befuddled. The whole incident would probably make mad-Flan more careful around Sakuya. ;)


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3. "RE: GG 2/VI: L'Intérêt d'une Divulgation Complète"
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   >One thing bothers me, though. Sakuya says she took Flan's measurements
>before her trip on the TARDIS, but Flan was already mad when she
>entered the household.

The last time Sakuya made clothes for Flandre was in 1867, but the measurements those clothes were based on were far older. After all, they hadn't changed since 1520 (and weren't expected to ever do so). They could well have been the last set taken before she fell ill, but even if Sakuya had wanted to update them, as you note, The World would have made it possible.

Besides, even when she was mad, Flan wasn't the Tasmanian Devil. She had more lucid turns, particularly around the new moon, and she wasn't automatically hostile to anyone but Remilia. I'm not saying it would have been a task to be undertaken casually, but Sakuya and Flandre did cross paths a few times during the former's original tenure, they weren't complete strangers to each other. Particularly once Sakuya was the only member of staff remaining, it would have been inevitable sooner or later.

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5. "RE: GG 2/VI: L'Intérêt d'une Divulgation Complète"
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   >Now that they could see each other's faces, the whole thing felt that much more
>awkward to the younger sister, although she noticed with faint puzzlement that
>Remilia's expression was serene, even slightly amused.
>

Of course, she's about to put on a show, albeit a private one. Remilia is always happy to give grandiose pronouncements for a good cause.

>Oh, this is getting me nowhere, Flandre grumbled to herself. Worse than
>that, it was starting to feel something like the bad old days, the way her
>damaged mind had occasionally just latched onto something stupid and chased it
>around in circles indefinitely. She wasn't going back there. Never again.
>

Poor Flandre, what-if speculation loops about emotional topics suck even at the best of times. Makes me just want to hug the girl.

>Sakuya expected Flandre to announce their discovery at breakfast, but when she
>didn't, the maid kept silent about it as well. If the young mistress didn't
>wish to make a point of it, after all, that was her business.
>

I guess Remilia's reaction to Flandre's impossible circumstances will happen at a date to be determined. Now I wonder how long it will take anyone without a measuring tape to notice.

>"Maybe we should have a breakfast contest sometime," said Flan. "Your waffles,
>Sakuya's crêpes, and Sis's pain perdu."
>

Resulting image: SDM as the setting for a special episode of Iron Chef complete with Flandre doing an impression of Chairman Kaga's infamous "Allez cuisine!" intro.

>Smiling, Sakuya settled into her taller lover's strong embrace and leaned her
>head back against Meiling's shoulder. "By an odd coincidence, you've Remilia's
>mother to thank for that."
>

The sequence that follows this is, as the current phrasing goes, full of feels. I'm glad for Sakuya's sake that she did understand Italian, since Remilia the Elder was clearly so well practiced at appearing to be cold and terrifying that she comes across as more frightening than her ancient vampire lord of a husband.

>"Hush, woman, I'm being gallant here."
>

One of those situations where I grumble about my lack of artistic talent, since I now have the image of Meiling delivering that line in traditional knightly armor carrying Sakuya in the most cliched princess dress imaginable. Funny thing, in my head full plate armor works really well on Meiling.

>"As you wish," said Sakuya, and, with a movement almost to quick to follow,
>she delivered. The throw was on target, the silvered dagger flickering across >the torchlit space and heading straight for Flandre.
>

Was this just a literary flourish, or are Sakuya's daggers actually coated in silver for application against entities that are vulnerable to that metal?

>"I want to see just how strong you are before I turn you loose on an
>unsuspecting world," she added, baring one side's fangs in a slightly smug
>half-grin.
>

Remilia is simply incapable of passing up an opportunity for this sort of thing, it's part of her charm. Also, apparently vampires can accomplish moefang in the proper circumstances.

>" So, to remedy this, I've prepared a bit of light reading for you."
>So saying, she placed the large journal she was carrying on the workbench and \
>slid it toward him. "This is the Mysterium Lamiarum."
>

I imagine the 'light reading' line being delivered with just a bit of sarcasm. Though I also picture the book being set down with an audible thud so I may just have watched too many cartoons in my life.

>"Please," said Remilia. "Read the book and then decide. Remember, on the night
>you proposed to me, when we agreed there should be no ambiguity? This will
>remove the last of my doubts..." She hesitated. "... Or confirm them. Either
>way, we both have to know."
>

And here we see that overthinking and worrying about matters they've already been explicitly told not to is a trait shared by both Scarlet sisters. Which is a common enough trait among the general population of people truthfully, but it does contrast a bit more with Remilia given her usual self confidence.

>"Do you have any idea how much I appreciate a partner who goes ahead and hands
>me her instruction manual?" he asked wryly, and Remilia couldn't help
>but laugh in spite of herself.
>

I'd say a lot of people would appreciate this if it were even possible, but most people don't actually read the instructions on enough things in life that RTFM is a commonly understood, if terse, response to obvious questions from newbies.

>Remilia jumped. "Uu~!" she squeaked, and then, fixing him with a blushing half-
>scowl, said unconvincingly, "If you were any other man you would lose that hand
>for such a liberty, sir."
>

And so Remilia can no longer claim to have never uttered that noise in her life, even if as a reader I'm still not sure what it'd sound like. Also at this point I suspect she sees it as tradition to playfully admonish G for his affectionate liberties. Much like with Flandre teasing her, if she ever didn't respond that way G might think she's come down with some sort of vampire flu.


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6. "RE: GG 2/VI: L'Intérêt d'une Divulgation Complète"
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   >>Now that they could see each other's faces, the whole thing felt that much more
>>awkward to the younger sister, although she noticed with faint puzzlement that
>>Remilia's expression was serene, even slightly amused.
>
>Of course, she's about to put on a show, albeit a private one. Remilia
>is always happy to give grandiose pronouncements for a good cause.

Indeed. Also, you can tell Flan is still feeling her way into her new world, or she would realize that if Remilia were angry with her about this, she'd have known about it long before now.

>I guess Remilia's reaction to Flandre's impossible circumstances will
>happen at a date to be determined. Now I wonder how long it will take
>anyone without a measuring tape to notice.

Won't be too much longer.

>I'm glad for Sakuya's sake that she did understand Italian,
>since Remilia the Elder was clearly so well practiced at appearing to
>be cold and terrifying that she comes across as more frightening than
>her ancient vampire lord of a husband.

She didn't actually mean to be terrifying, as such, but in her constant quest to be taken as seriously as possible, she often overdid it without realizing.

But yes, it's fortunate for Sakuya that she knew what was going on (and also for the audience). And it gave me an opportunity to get Signora Sapere a little screen time, so as to establish that there were at least a few people beyond her husband that didn't buy into Remilia the Elder's nonsense. :)

>One of those situations where I grumble about my lack of artistic
>talent, since I now have the image of Meiling delivering that line in
>traditional knightly armor carrying Sakuya in the most cliched
>princess dress imaginable. Funny thing, in my head full plate armor
>works really well on Meiling.

For complicated reasons, this ends up with me envisioning Sakuya and Meiling re-enacting the plate armor scene from Bill & Ted's Excellent Adventure, complete with Sakuya screaming, "You killed Meiling, you medieval dickweed!" and attacking the medieval guard dude.

>>"As you wish," said Sakuya, and, with a movement almost to quick to follow,
>>she delivered. The throw was on target, the silvered dagger flickering across >the torchlit space and heading straight for Flandre.
>
>Was this just a literary flourish, or are Sakuya's daggers actually
>coated in silver for application against entities that are vulnerable
>to that metal?

They are, in fact, silver-plated. (This is why Flan even noticed she'd been stuck with one in Sakuya's first appearance. They don't do any lasting harm if they're removed right away, but they sting a lot more than a plain steel blade would.) For the record, this is not a measure she took just in case she had to take down her own employer some day; it's to make them more effective against other supernaturals, such as werewolves, boggarts, and the like.

>I imagine the 'light reading' line being delivered with just a bit of
>sarcasm. Though I also picture the book being set down with an audible
>thud so I may just have watched too many cartoons in my life.

It does whomp a bit, although it's not a huge book. (And being handwritten, it looks more substantial than it would be if it were typeset and printed.) The "light reading" part was definitely meant wryly, though.

>And here we see that overthinking and worrying about matters they've
>already been explicitly told not to is a trait shared by both Scarlet
>sisters. Which is a common enough trait among the general population
>of people truthfully, but it does contrast a bit more with Remilia
>given her usual self confidence.

She's particularly concerned about his reaction to some fairly specific parts of the book, primarily regarding details of vampire ecology she was reasonably sure he didn't know—his complete failure to address which in their follow-up conversation bemused her a bit, although he took the conversation in a direction that made pursuing specific points... difficult. She'll have to come back to at least one of them later.

As for her uncharacteristic uncertainty, well, this is a Big Deal, and it's a thing she's never been serious about before. It's comparatively easy to be self-confident about your dinner plans or what you're wearing. Selecting and being selected by a life partner is on a whole 'nother level, particularly when your lifespan is very, very long. Couple that with the fact that, although possibly not conscious of it, she's still slightly ashamed of the way she forced the very beginning of their acquaintanceship, and she's very aware—maybe a little too aware—of the gravity of the situation.

>Also at this point I suspect she sees it as tradition to playfully
>admonish G for his affectionate liberties. Much like with Flandre
>teasing her, if she ever didn't respond that way G might think she's
>come down with some sort of vampire flu.

Put it this way: Although the word is virtually always encapsulated in some kind of protest, he is rapidly coming to the conclusion that she only calls him "beast" when she really wants him to continue along the path he's currently on. :)

--G.
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7. "RE: GG 2/VI: L'Intérêt d'une Divulgation Complète"
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   >She didn't actually mean to be terrifying, as such, but in her
>constant quest to be taken as seriously as possible, she often overdid
>it without realizing.
>

Was she aware that the staff whispered about the perceived threat of being broken down for alchemical spare parts and/or Flandre feed?

>For complicated reasons, this ends up with me envisioning Sakuya and
>Meiling re-enacting the plate armor scene from Bill & Ted's
>Excellent Adventure
, complete with Sakuya screaming, "You
>killed Meiling, you medieval dickweed!
" and attacking the medieval
>guard dude.
>

Heh, you know I could picture Meiling delivering a line like that, but Sakuya doing so seems... well my brain renders it almost like Meiling's voice coming out of Sakuya (perhaps she's narrating a truly bizarre dream she had over breakfast.)

>They are, in fact, silver-plated. (This is why Flan even noticed
>she'd been stuck with one in Sakuya's first appearance. They don't do
>any lasting harm if they're removed right away, but they sting a lot
>more than a plain steel blade would.) For the record, this is not a
>measure she took just in case she had to take down her own employer
>some day; it's to make them more effective against other
>supernaturals, such as werewolves, boggarts, and the like.
>

At this point I wouldn't be that surprised to find Sakuya spent some of her time away from the mansion as a Witcher.

>She's particularly concerned about his reaction to some fairly
>specific parts of the book, primarily regarding details of vampire
>ecology she was reasonably sure he didn't know—his complete
>failure to address which in their follow-up conversation bemused her a
>bit, although he took the conversation in a direction that made
>pursuing specific points... difficult. She'll have to come back to at
>least one of them later.
>

I'm curious now if we readers have seen mention of the item in question or not. I have one guess, related to vampiric fertility, or rather the lack thereof, since I could see a girl as traditional at heart as Remilia still can be thinking that might be a deal breaker (despite knowing G does not exactly lack for offspring.)


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8. "RE: GG 2/VI: L'Intérêt d'une Divulgation Complète"
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   >>She didn't actually mean to be terrifying, as such, but in her
>>constant quest to be taken as seriously as possible, she often overdid
>>it without realizing.
>
>Was she aware that the staff whispered about the perceived threat of
>being broken down for alchemical spare parts and/or Flandre feed?

Probably not, since her own maid didn't mingle with the other servants.

>>For complicated reasons, this ends up with me envisioning Sakuya and
>>Meiling re-enacting the plate armor scene from Bill & Ted's
>>Excellent Adventure
, complete with Sakuya screaming, "You
>>killed Meiling, you medieval dickweed!
" and attacking the medieval
>>guard dude.
>
>Heh, you know I could picture Meiling delivering a line like that, but
>Sakuya doing so seems... well my brain renders it almost like
>Meiling's voice coming out of Sakuya (perhaps she's narrating a truly
>bizarre dream she had over breakfast.)

As a matter of fact, I had the same thought (that it sounds more like something Meiling would say), but since Meiling's the one in the armor, Bill's line had come from Sakuya for the thing to map correctly. The dream explanation is as good a one as any. :)

>>She's particularly concerned about his reaction to some fairly
>>specific parts of the book, primarily regarding details of vampire
>>ecology she was reasonably sure he didn't know
>
>I'm curious now if we readers have seen mention of the item in
>question or not. I have one guess, related to vampiric fertility, or
>rather the lack thereof,

Indeed, that's the main one. There were a few other bits and pieces she thought he might be sort of generally disgusted by (for example, the technical details about feeding and the turning process are pretty queasy when presented in such a clinical fashion), but that's the thing she figured he was most likely to take as an unwelcome surprise, under the circumstances.

> since I could see a girl as traditional at
>heart as Remilia still can be thinking that might be a deal breaker
>(despite knowing G does not exactly lack for offspring.)

Well, in a way, it's because she knows he has children that she thought he might be disappointed to discover that there won't be any more if he follows through with marrying her. (When, in fact, it hasn't even occurred to him.)

--G.
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9. "RE: GG 2/VI: L'Intérêt d'une Divulgation Complète"
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   Remilia is from an age where not every child was assured of reaching adulthood. Hell, Flandre almost didn't. Of course, it could be argued that she still hasn't yet, so six of one. But even back in the 1700s, when Remilia lost track of the outside world, child mortality was appalingly high.

It could also be that Remilia is thinking of the truly long term, given she's taken an immortal as a fiancee; who's to say that 20 or 50 or 100 years from now, her husband might not long to hear the pitter-patter of little feet in the house once again? He and Kei didn't contemplate them at all for almost three centuries after getting married.

Anyways, if Gryph really wants children with Remilia, I'm sure 25th century technology is up to the task. Vampires and Detians are both "human+", and matching up the genes shouldn't be that difficult, especially since they have Flandre as an example of a vampire with Detian blood.


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10. "RE: GG 2/VI: L'Intérêt d'une Divulgation Complète"
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   OK, I'm getting a little confused about vampire "biology" here. Forgive me if I missed something in the text.

As I understood it, Remilia was born a vampire to the noble House of Scarlet, and her father was also a natural born vampire, in a noble line stretching back a long ways. I assumed, therefore, that since she grew past being a baby that she's still growing, just very, very slowly, and will one day appear as an adult, like her father did. Also, unless she's unfortunately sterile, she would be capable of furthering the line of the Scarlets. (Or is it only male vampires that are fertile? If so, Dracula's tendency to collect vampire brides seems even nastier.)

Sorry again if I missed something in the text that explains all this.


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11. "RE: GG 2/VI: L'Intérêt d'une Divulgation Complète"
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   >As I understood it, Remilia was born a vampire to the noble House of
>Scarlet, and her father was also a natural born vampire, in a noble
>line stretching back a long ways.

This is so.

>I assumed, therefore, that since she
>grew past being a baby that she's still growing, just very, very
>slowly, and will one day appear as an adult, like her father did.

This is not; she is an adult, she just happens to be a very petite one. If she were human, that's still as big as she would have gotten. (Her dress sense exaggerates the effect a bit, which is probably a hold-over from the fact that she didn't really "grow up" emotionally until she was nearly 300; but that was more a matter of choice than biology. She didn't have any reason to, so she never bothered.)

>(Or is it only male vampires that are fertile?

It is (and they are not very much so; it's really fairly remarkable that Victor and Remilia the Elder had two children within a mere five years). It's a side effect of the way their regeneration works—the vampire body, once full-grown (for born vampires) or turned (for those who started life as humans), resists change, which short-circuits the cyclical processes that normally make that kind of thing possible.

>If so, Dracula's tendency to collect vampire brides seems
>even nastier.)

Well, quite.

>Sorry again if I missed something in the text that explains all this.

The point about vampire fecundity is one of the things Flandre noticed while she was reading the Mysterium in Act III, although the text doesn't note whether she paused to reflect on it beyond thinking, "Wait, really?" She probably didn't expect to be able to have children herself anyway, given the age at which she was turned, but she was a bit surprised to find that no vampire woman can.

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12. "RE: GG 2/VI: L'Intérêt d'une Divulgation Complète"
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   Thanks for the Word of God on this, Gryph. Much clearer to me now.


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13. "RE: GG 2/VI: L'Intérêt d'une Divulgation Complète"
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   >It is (and they are not very much so; it's really fairly remarkable
>that Victor and Remilia the Elder had two children within a mere five
>years). It's a side effect of the way their regeneration
>works—the vampire body, once full-grown (for born vampires) or
>turned (for those who started life as humans), resists change, which
>short-circuits the cyclical processes that normally make that kind of
>thing possible.
>

That reminds me a bit of what happened to Jack Harkness over in Dr. Who canon. It also is a bit amusing; I've seen vampires, at least the undead kind, rendered as agents/entities of entropy but it seems that the living sort like the Scarlets are the opposite of that. Not sure if that's conscious, subconscious, or coincidental but I find the flipped script appealing anyway.


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27. "RE: GG 2/VI: L'Intérêt d'une Divulgation Complète"
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   >>(Or is it only male vampires that are fertile?
>
>It is (and they are not very much so; it's really fairly remarkable
>that Victor and Remilia the Elder had two children within a mere five
>years).

You say that, but also just quite well documented that Remilia the Elder was a talented alchemist. One suspects she did some research, and then tipped the odds in her favour ;)

~Silv'

(Whether such research would be of any benefit to her daughter(s) is another matter entirely)


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28. "RE: GG 2/VI: L'Intérêt d'une Divulgation Complète"
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   >>it's really fairly remarkable
>>that Victor and Remilia the Elder had two children within a mere five
>>years.
>
>You say that, but also just quite well documented that Remilia the
>Elder was a talented alchemist. One suspects she did some research,
>and then tipped the odds in her favour ;)

Well, yes, but that in itself is fairly remarkable, in the grand scheme of things.

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14. "RE: GG 2/VI: L'Intérêt d'une Divulgation Complète"
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   >Remilia is from an age where not every child was assured of reaching
>adulthood. Hell, Flandre almost didn't. Of course, it could be argued
>that she still hasn't yet, so six of one. But even back in the 1700s,
>when Remilia lost track of the outside world, child mortality was
>appalingly high.

True, that's a good point. I kind of wonder now if, having heard about his five grown children, she assumes there must have been others who didn't make it.

(As for Flan, she's about as close as she'll get, which is good enough for government work, particularly now that she's out of the swamp mentally. :)

>It could also be that Remilia is thinking of the truly long term,
>given she's taken an immortal as a fiancee; who's to say that 20 or 50
>or 100 years from now, her husband might not long to hear the
>pitter-patter of little feet in the house once again?

The funny part there is that if she was paying attention to that part of his life story, then she should realize at some point that every single one of his existing kids was the other party's idea. He's not against them and he loves the ones he has, but in 400-odd years he's never been the one who said, "You know what, let us procreate." :)

>He and Kei
>didn't contemplate them at all for almost three centuries after
>getting married.

Technically, they didn't bother actually getting married until Kate was already on the way, but, yeah. (Ties into that whole thing from Nocturne Historique about how they didn't get around to not being teenagers until the Corporate War.)

>Anyways, if Gryph really wants children with Remilia, I'm sure 25th
>century technology is up to the task. Vampires and Detians are both
>"human+", and matching up the genes shouldn't be that difficult,
>especially since they have Flandre as an example of a vampire with
>Detian blood.

(nod) There are a few different ways the problem could be tackled in the 2400s, ranging from dropping both genomes into a big enough computer and redirecting the output to a biosculpt tank, to (theoretically, with an adept enough arcanobiologist in play) adjusting things so that they can potentially get it done the old-fashioned way.

(Alternately, they could adopt. That would involve more paperwork and less lab time. :)

Heck, in a magically active world, even in the 1940s they might not be completely out of luck, but they'd have to know the right people. Either way, it's not likely to be an issue right away, but it's a conversation they ought to have at some point, anyway.

(All that said, I do have to admit that within about five minutes of writing the part in Act III establishing that vampire women can't have children, the bit of my brain that likes to make trouble for me was casually remarking, "You know, if they had a daughter, she'd have to be called Victoria. And she'd look like this." :)

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15. "RE: GG 2/VI: L'Intérêt d'une Divulgation Complète"
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   >(All that said, I do have to admit that within about five minutes of
>writing the part in Act III establishing that vampire women can't have
>children, the bit of my brain that likes to make trouble for me was
>casually remarking, "You know, if they had a daughter, she'd have to
>be called Victoria. And she'd look like this." :)

And she'd probably reach prime ass-kicking age right around the same time as Annabelle, assuming there's no time shenanigans involved in either the OWaW world or Oriphos.


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17. "RE: GG 2/VI: L'Intérêt d'une Divulgation Complète"
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   >>(All that said, I do have to admit that within about five minutes of
>>writing the part in Act III establishing that vampire women can't have
>>children, the bit of my brain that likes to make trouble for me was
>>casually remarking, "You know, if they had a daughter, she'd have to
>>be called Victoria. And she'd look like this." :)
>
>And she'd probably reach prime ass-kicking age right around the same
>time as Annabelle, assuming there's no time shenanigans involved in
>either the OWaW world or Oriphos.

This does assume that Remilia gets pregnant in short order. Personally, I could see Victoria sitting in the Green Room until sometime after Kei gets back. Possibly centuries after. Not saying I'd want to wait that long, but the practical problems with that "effectively zero" only begin to break down after centuries of trying.

Hmm. Now I wonder if somewhere in Remilia the Elder's notes, there's an explanation for how they had two children, as well as why doing that again is a Bad Idea.

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20. "RE: GG 2/VI: L'Intérêt d'une Divulgation Complète"
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   >>>"You know, if they had a daughter, she'd have to
>>>be called Victoria. And she'd look like this." :)
>>
>>And she'd probably reach prime ass-kicking age right around the same
>>time as Annabelle, assuming there's no time shenanigans involved in
>>either the OWaW world or Oriphos.
>
>This does assume that Remilia gets pregnant in short order.

They're getting married in 1946, so I suppose that depends on whether they take a shortcut to 2411 in the process of getting back to G's home timeline, or walk. If the latter, they have 464 years until Annabelle is born, which is a fairly generous timetable for most projects. :)

(Given that the reason vampire women don't have children is "those parts literally don't do anything," though, I don't really know why that "effectively" is even in there.)

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39. "RE: GG 2/VI: L'Intérêt d'une Divulgation Complète"
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   >And she'd probably reach prime ass-kicking age right around the same
>time as Annabelle, assuming there's no time shenanigans involved in
>either the OWaW world or Oriphos.

Hmmm...

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16. "RE: GG 2/VI: L'Intérêt d'une Divulgation Complète"
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   >
>(All that said, I do have to admit that within about five minutes of
>writing the part in Act III establishing that vampire women can't have
>children, the bit of my brain that likes to make trouble for me was
>casually remarking, "You know, if they had a daughter, she'd have to
>be called Victoria. And she'd look like this." :)
>

Well, the Mysterium Lamiarum said that female vampires rated at effectively zero, which is slightly different from zero. To be fair, even on the timeline of immortals, "effectively zero" is virtually indistinguishable from zero.

However, there's still that one in a decillion.

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25. "RE: GG 2/VI: L'Intérêt d'une Divulgation Complète"
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   >Well, the Mysterium Lamiarum said that female vampires rated at
>effectively zero, which is slightly different from zero. To be fair,
>even on the timeline of immortals, "effectively zero" is virtually
>indistinguishable from zero.
>
>However, there's still that one in a decillion.
>

Given what Gryphon has said about it elsewhere in the thread, 'effectively' in this case might translate to 'not without divine intervention', with the only known incidents were from before the gods of the witches' world died, and the vampire ladies in question had apparently won significant favor and/or accrued notable favors.


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18. "RE: GG 2/VI: L'Intérêt d'une Divulgation Complète"
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   Probably an unimportant question:

What is Flight Lieutenant Oxton's preferred tool for disassembling Neuroi? (Obviously, she uses something different from what her Overwatch incarnation uses, since any pistols she could get in the OWAW timeline would be only slightly more effective than a straw and some dried peas.)

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19. "RE: GG 2/VI: L'Intérêt d'une Divulgation Complète"
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   LAST EDITED ON Oct-31-20 AT 04:39 AM (EDT)
 
>Probably an unimportant question:
>
>What is Flight Lieutenant Oxton's preferred tool for disassembling
>Neuroi?

Lena is one of the first witches to be issued the new de Havilland DH.103 Hornet fast assault Striker, which is something of an evolution of the DH.98 Mosquito. Standard armament spec for the Hornet is a double Hispano Mk V autocannon (a single-mount of which is the standard weapon for the Hawker Hurricane fighter Striker and its successor the Hawker Tempest). Performance-wise, a single Mk V is roughly comparable to the Fusōnese Type 99, with a slightly faster rate of fire.

(She didn't have a weapon with her when she crashed into the time bubble, nor was she flying her Hornet; since she was on leave, not going to St-Ulrich on official business, she'd signed out one of the Luna Moth night trainers for the flight instead.)

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21. "RE: GG 2/VI: L'Intérêt d'une Divulgation Complète"
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   Does she use tracers with her ammo? I assume her callsign is unchanged.


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23. "RE: GG 2/VI: L'Intérêt d'une Divulgation Complète"
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   >Does she use tracers with her ammo? I assume her callsign is
>unchanged.

She does, though it doesn't really explain her callsign, since pretty much everybody does. The standard AEF aviation ammunition loading for full-auto weapons large-caliber enough to fire explosive rounds is what they call a "two to two to one" mix of armor-piercing, armor-piercing explosive, and armor-piercing tracer: AP, APX, AP, APX, APT, repeat. Lighter MGs that don't have APX available are loaded 4:1 AP/APT. It's also customary for the last ten rounds on a belt to be tracers, so that the operator has a visual indication that she's almost out of ammo.

Tracer is presumably called Tracer because she herself leaves a luminous trail when she uses one of her favorite Power Stunts,* which is to accelerate her personal time for a moment so that she appears to teleport a short distance.

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22. "RE: GG 2/VI: L'Intérêt d'une Divulgation Complète"
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   Minor question: Lena dual-wielding the two boggo Hispanos is obviously the correct choice, but there were other armament choices available. Are there any witches running around in Mosquito or Mosquito-derived Striker units using the Tsetse configuration, that being the one mounting the good old Ordnance QF 6-pounder with the Molins power loading system? I can't help but feel that the presence of a fully-automatic 57mm cannon firing various flavours of armour piercing rounds might be very welcome indeed against the Neuroi, assuming you can find someone capable of lugging it around in flight. Especially since there was APDS ammo for them by 1943-4 OTL, which means it's not a huge leap to see it here. =]

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24. "RE: GG 2/VI: L'Intérêt d'une Divulgation Complète"
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   >Are there any witches running around in Mosquito or Mosquito-derived
>Striker units using the Tsetse configuration, that being the one
>mounting the good old Ordnance QF 6-pounder with the Molins power
>loading system?

If a weapon exists, some witch somewhere has at least tried to carry it into battle. I'm sure some Sherman tank witch has tried to take a QF 17-pdr off the rack at some point as well, although that thing is so cumbersome you have to hold it sideways to clear a Sherman Land Striker's front glacis. ;)

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26. "RE: GG 2/VI: L'Intérêt d'une Divulgation Complète"
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   >"Jones, put that bloody 17-pounder back where you got
>it this instant." "Aw, but Sarge..." "No buts, Serenity. You can't
>even see over the bloody magazine."

... Well now I want to see the adventures of Airwoman Serenity Jones, known to her squadron as the Self-Propelled Arcanist and to her QM as "By all the gods, not her again!". Known chiefly in Strike Witch circles for being the odd fish who keeps trying to get a 17-pounder tank gun airborne and whose familiar is, for some utterly unfathomable reason, a firefly. Actually a very, very good shot, though she has to be all but threatened with death by angry wasps before she'll shoot anything with an even slightly normal calibre. This is the kind of woman who calls the Hispano Mk V a pea-shooter with a straight face. It's probably the only straight thing about her. She's also, as is de rigeur for witches obsessed with heavy firepower, skinny as a rake and only clearing five foot two with the aid of a stepladder.

...

why does this keep happening today oh my god.

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29. "RE: GG 2/VI: L'Intérêt d'une Divulgation Complète"
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   Traitor?

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42. "RE: GG 2/VI: L'Intérêt d'une Divulgation Complète"
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   >Traitor?
>
>Never stop this. It's very often an amusing moment to see something
>coming from you.
>

Just thirding this sentiment. :)

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30. "RE: GG 2/VI: L'Intérêt d'une Divulgation Complète"
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   >why does this keep happening today oh my god.

Well, that is pretty much exactly the sort of thing I had in mind, so there's that. :)

She presumably gets a bit of stick from her wingmates about the fact that her familiar manifests itself as a pair of antennae and a brightly glowing posterior aspect, although one expects a temperament like hers learned early on to lean into it.

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33. "RE: GG 2/VI: L'Intérêt d'une Divulgation Complète"
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   LAST EDITED ON Nov-01-20 AT 04:19 PM (EST)
 
>She presumably gets a bit of stick from her wingmates about the fact
>that her familiar manifests itself as a pair of antennae and a
>brightly glowing posterior aspect, although one expects a temperament
>like hers learned early on to lean into it.
>
>--G.
>"'Limited Neuroi presence this sector' my bioluminescent arse!"

Other people also presumably learned early on not to make any Rudolph jokes when she happens to be within earshot, especially when she has any weapons close by.

FYI: A quick google search shows that Rudolph first showed up in story form in 1939, although the song didn't come around until 1949. And I can't remember if some form of Christmas exists there or not. So the point might be moot anyway.

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34. "RE: GG 2/VI: L'Intérêt d'une Divulgation Complète"
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   >And I can't remember if some form of Christmas exists there or not.

They do have Christmas, although it corresponds much more to the modern Western secular version (as commonly practiced even by atheists like me) than its classical religious aspects, and in the twentieth century, very few people know why it's called that. It's the kind of thing that turns up in newspaper Did You Know? columns around that time of year.

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35. "RE: GG 2/VI: L'Intérêt d'une Divulgation Complète"
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   >>And I can't remember if some form of Christmas exists there or not.
>
>They do have Christmas, although it corresponds much more to the
>modern Western secular version (as commonly practiced even by atheists
>like me) than its classical religious aspects, and in the twentieth
>century, very few people know why it's called that. It's the kind of
>thing that turns up in newspaper Did You Know? columns around
>that time of year.

Does

Does this mean

Does this mean that THE STRIKE WITCHES ARE PART OF THE NORAD SANTA TRACKER SERVICE???

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36. "RE: GG 2/VI: L'Intérêt d'une Divulgation Complète"
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   >>>And I can't remember if some form of Christmas exists there or not.
>>
>>They do have Christmas, although it corresponds much more to the
>>modern Western secular version (as commonly practiced even by atheists
>>like me) than its classical religious aspects, and in the twentieth
>>century, very few people know why it's called that. It's the kind of
>>thing that turns up in newspaper Did You Know? columns around
>>that time of year.
>
>Does
>
>Does this mean
>
>Does this mean that THE STRIKE WITCHES ARE PART OF THE NORAD SANTA
>TRACKER SERVICE???
>

Mm, perhaps the Liberion ones are - for whatever value of 'norad' exists or don't in this universe - tho this also raises some questions vis a vis whether in a world with magic the idea of a magical being who delivers presents everywhere is credible or if it's fact.

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37. "RE: GG 2/VI: L'Intérêt d'une Divulgation Complète"
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   >>Does this mean that THE STRIKE WITCHES ARE PART OF THE NORAD SANTA
>>TRACKER SERVICE???
>>
>
>Mm, perhaps the Liberion ones are - for whatever value of 'norad'
>exists or don't in this universe - tho this also raises some questions
>vis a vis whether in a world with magic the idea of a magical being
>who delivers presents everywhere is credible or if it's fact.

Things don't map 1 to 1 between reality and the Witches' World, but NORAD was founded in 1957, so unless they accelerated that timetable quite a bit fighting the Neuroi it wouldn't exist just yet. That said, I'd expect the more festively inclined witches to be willing to get in on the shenanigans once they're available.


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38. "RE: GG 2/VI: L'Intérêt d'une Divulgation Complète"
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   >this also raises some questions
>vis a vis whether in a world with magic the idea of a magical being
>who delivers presents everywhere is credible or if it's fact.

... I mean can we really call the concept of Santa "credible" in THIS world?

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40. "RE: GG 2/VI: L'Intérêt d'une Divulgation Complète"
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   Look, the Sun says there is a Santa Claus, and if they say it in the Sun, it's So.

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41. "RE: GG 2/VI: L'Intérêt d'une Divulgation Complète"
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   >Look, the Sun says there is a Santa Claus, and if they say it
>in the Sun, it's So.

Fair point, well made.

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43. "RE: GG 2/VI: L'Intérêt d'une Divulgation Complète"
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   >>this also raises some questions
>>vis a vis whether in a world with magic the idea of a magical being
>>who delivers presents everywhere is credible or if it's fact.
>
>... I mean can we really call the concept of Santa "credible" in THIS
>world?
>

I dunno about this specific dimensional offset, but I recall in Symphony 1, Saionji mysteriously acquired a sword from someone matching that description. Combined with other mythoi, one might have reasonable cause to suspect one Odin Winterbeard as taking on the role for his own mysterious purposes, or possibly any of the other gods and goddesses who have been shown to be real, or at least reality-based.

So yes, within this overall multiverse, there is circumstantial evidence that the concept is at least -plausible- ;-)

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44. "RE: GG 2/VI: L'Intérêt d'une Divulgation Complète"
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>
>I dunno about this specific dimensional offset, but I recall in
>Symphony 1, Saionji mysteriously acquired a sword from someone
>matching that description. Combined with other mythoi, one might have
>reasonable cause to suspect one Odin Winterbeard as taking on the role
>for his own mysterious purposes, or possibly any of the other gods and
>goddesses who have been shown to be real, or at least reality-based.
>

In the annotations for Azalynn's Winter Holiday, Gryphon said that it was in fact Odin. My guess was that Saionji was so feverish that you could have stuck a white beard and a red beanie on a Hutt and Kyouichi would have thought he was seeing Santa Claus.

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45. "RE: GG 2/VI: L'Intérêt d'une Divulgation Complète"
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   >So yes, within this overall multiverse, there is circumstantial
>evidence that the concept is at least -plausible- ;-)

Uh, yeah, I meant "this world" as in the one I'm typing from, though.

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46. "RE: GG 2/VI: L'Intérêt d'une Divulgation Complète"
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   OH - sorry, world slippage. I was referring to the world within fiction.

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31. "RE: GG 2/VI: L'Intérêt d'une Divulgation Complète"
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   > Ich werde mich darauf freuen, meine Geliebte.

Huh. The future tense is a bit strange here. I mean, why isn't he looking forward to it *now*? He has every reason to, after all.


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32. "RE: GG 2/VI: L'Intérêt d'une Divulgation Complète"
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   >> Ich werde mich darauf freuen, meine Geliebte.
>
>Huh. The future tense is a bit strange here. I mean, why isn't he
>looking forward to it *now*? He has every reason to, after all.

It's just a direct translation of "I will look forward to that." In English, "I will look forward" connotes that the speaker both presently is looking forward, and intends to continue doing so. If that's not properly idiomatic in German, I'm happy to change it to something that is!

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