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"(S70) S5DSE03 Fire Hazards"
 
   Just mine for the moment. The others might be along with a few of their own later. --G.

Étude for Firebenders - An étude is a classical music form in which the piece is generally short and deliberately difficult, often designed as an instructional exercise.

wartime Fire Nation colony - It is not clear, canonically, which Fire Nation colony became Republic City, though one rather tends to suspect it was Yu Dao.

use my body as a weapon - It has not escaped Anne that, in her new life, she is also arguably being made into a weapon, but she doesn't consider it ironic; it's of her own choosing, and - most importantly from her perspective - she wields herself.

depict her as a monster - One of those artists was Sokka, who was known (and occasionally suspected of preposterous Fire Nation sympathies) in his time for always faithfully depicting Azula as she had actually looked, even in images that showed her doing her worst. Many of the other contemporary artists on the anti-Fire Nation side at least slipped in some fangs and/or horns, though even they usually couldn't bring themselves to make her ugly, just monstrous.

Zuko's detractors - Including Azana's mother, Azera, who has always maintained that Zuko was a usurper and, in general, a failure as Fire Lord.

a bit in love with him - In the light of the above, this may have begun as an act of contrariness.

Kaiten - This character's name comes from one of Japan's desperation weapons of World War II, the Kaiten manned torpedo. As the name suggests, this was a naval torpedo designed to use a man as its expendable guidance system - quite literally a suicide weapon. (The name kaiten transliterates as something like "return to the sky" but was usually translated more along the lines of "ascent to heaven".)

Princess - How Kaiten came to know Karana's pet name for Azana is not certain; Azana has tried to find out before, but to no avail. Regardless, he is certainly aware that it is an intimacy to which he is in no way entitled. He's being deliberately offensive whenever he uses it.

your chunky little pal - Some guys just don't go for that buff Water Tribe look. (Those guys have pretty poor taste, you ask me.)

"Hah." - This is shorthand for, "On the list of distasteful things that have ridiculously been put to me as my patriotic duty, that isn't even number one. This amuses me in a dark and cynical sort of way."

the old man and the Avatar - Also a play they do every year at Republic City Primary School No. 4, though the title of the play refers to a different old man.

time for us to get acquainted - In what may be the only redeeming feature Kaiten ever had, he doesn't mean it like that.

Beifong - Common slang for metalbender cops (less insulting than "tinhead" and not as dated by this time), from the two members of that illustrious family who served as chief of police in Republic City's early days.

five-oh - Most Standard-speakers in Dìqiú don't know why "five-oh" is slang for the police, just that it is.

one more ashmaker - Like many of the doctors and nurses at Yugoda Memorial, Dr. Kuva is a waterbender. As such, he is not really inclined to give firebenders the benefit of the doubt, particularly members of the Agni Kai. I hasten to note that he hasn't sandbagged on his standard of care; that would be a grievous breach of professional ethics. He just expends no energy whatever on bedside manner when dealing with them. His oath requires him to treat them. It does not require him to give a damn about them in any other context.


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  RE: (S70) S5DSE03 Fire Hazards eriktown Dec-18-13 1
     RE: (S70) S5DSE03 Fire Hazards Gryphonadmin Aug-18-14 12
         RE: (S70) S5DSE03 Fire Hazards The Traitor Aug-18-14 13
             RE: (S70) S5DSE03 Fire Hazards Gryphonadmin Aug-18-14 14
                 RE: (S70) S5DSE03 Fire Hazards The Traitor Aug-19-14 15
                     RE: (S70) S5DSE03 Fire Hazards Pasha Aug-19-14 16
                         RE: (S70) S5DSE03 Fire Hazards Gryphonadmin Aug-19-14 18
                             RE: (S70) S5DSE03 Fire Hazards SpottedKitty Aug-20-14 19
                                 RE: (S70) S5DSE03 Fire Hazards Nova Floresca Aug-20-14 20
                                     RE: (S70) S5DSE03 Fire Hazards Peter Eng Aug-20-14 21
                                 RE: (S70) S5DSE03 Fire Hazards Pasha Aug-20-14 22
                                     RE: (S70) S5DSE03 Fire Hazards Gryphonadmin Aug-20-14 24
                                         RE: (S70) S5DSE03 Fire Hazards Pasha Aug-20-14 25
                                             RE: (S70) S5DSE03 Fire Hazards Gryphonadmin Aug-20-14 26
                                             RE: (S70) S5DSE03 Fire Hazards Pasha Aug-21-14 27
                             RE: (S70) S5DSE03 Fire Hazards Pasha Aug-20-14 23
         RE: (S70) S5DSE03 Fire Hazards eriktown Aug-19-14 17
  RE: (S70) S5DSE03 Fire Hazards SpottedKitty Dec-19-13 2
     RE: (S70) S5DSE03 Fire Hazards MuninsFire Dec-19-13 3
         RE: (S70) S5DSE03 Fire Hazards Gryphonadmin Dec-19-13 4
             RE: (S70) S5DSE03 Fire Hazards SpottedKitty Dec-20-13 8
             RE: (S70) S5DSE03 Fire Hazards VoidRandom Dec-21-13 10
         RE: (S70) S5DSE03 Fire Hazards StClair Dec-20-13 9
  RE: (S70) S5DSE03 Fire Hazards Nova Floresca Dec-19-13 5
     RE: (S70) S5DSE03 Fire Hazards Gryphonadmin Dec-19-13 6
         RE: (S70) S5DSE03 Fire Hazards jonathanlennox Dec-19-13 7
         RE: (S70) S5DSE03 Fire Hazards Star Ranger4 Jan-14-14 11

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eriktown
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1. "RE: (S70) S5DSE03 Fire Hazards"
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   See, I was totally thinking he was named after conveyor belt sushi.


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12. "RE: (S70) S5DSE03 Fire Hazards"
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   LAST EDITED ON Aug-18-14 AT 04:22 PM (EDT)
 
>See, I was totally thinking he was named after conveyor belt
>sushi.

Ha! I get this now. There's a scene in a kaiten sushi place in the K-On! movie. (A kaiten sushi place in London, weirdly enough.)

Oh hey, I should probably fix all the annotation posts I broke when I rejiggered OOTR/DS. ... Sigh.

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13. "RE: (S70) S5DSE03 Fire Hazards"
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   >(A kaiten sushi place in London, weirdly enough)

Actually, London having a restaurant of that kind is really not that weird. Yo! Sushi is a kaiten-style restaurant chain (made homogenous and bland for reasons that will become obvious) that's spattered all over this sceptred isle like pigeon crap on a war memorial. It was built from the ground up by an English businessman in 1997 to provide a conveyor-belt sushi experience for stockbrokers, investment bankers, hedgies, and sundry other stains of dubious and unsanitary provenance on the hotel bed linen of life, because those grasping self-important fuckbats didn't have the time or inclination for proper, decent Japanese food.

I think there are some in the US now. We know how much you like chains.

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14. "RE: (S70) S5DSE03 Fire Hazards"
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   >>(A kaiten sushi place in London, weirdly enough)
>
>Actually, London having a restaurant of that kind is really not that
>weird.

Heh, I should clarify. I don't think it's weird that there's a kaiten sushi place in London. I just think it's a bit funny that we saw the main characters of a Japanese TV show set in Japan visit one... when they went to London on a trip, and not in Japan, where they live. :)

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15. "RE: (S70) S5DSE03 Fire Hazards"
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   It's no different to US citizens on holiday eating exclusively at McDonalds.

This really happens.

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16. "RE: (S70) S5DSE03 Fire Hazards"
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   >It's no different to US citizens on holiday eating exclusively at
>McDonalds.
>
>This really happens.

I get the concept of eating at a mcdonalds while on a vacation<1> in a far flung place with strange foods, seeking a little bit of comfort of the familiar, especially if you have children. But in the UK? Really? I watch a lot of cooking shows, several of them british. The food is basically the same except where the US has a burrito the UK has kebab.

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18. "RE: (S70) S5DSE03 Fire Hazards"
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   LAST EDITED ON Aug-19-14 AT 05:54 PM (EDT)
 
>I watch a lot of cooking shows, several of them british. The food is
>basically the same except where the US has a burrito the UK has kebab.

The British also display a certain tragic tendency to consider internal organs edible. :)

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Kidney pie? Seriously?! That's like eating a wastewater treatment plant.
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19. "RE: (S70) S5DSE03 Fire Hazards"
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   >The British also display a certain tragic tendency to consider
>internal organs edible. :)
>
>Kidney pie? Seriously?! That's like eating a
>wastewater treatment plant.

Steak and kidney pie, liver and onions, haggis... mmmm. <licks lips>

Not too keen on trying tripe, though. It's gone out of fashion here in the UK since WW2, nowadays it's more a pet food than anything else.

(Besides, it looks IMHO like someone already tried to eat it.)

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20. "RE: (S70) S5DSE03 Fire Hazards"
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   I for one would be extremely hesitant to eat anything whose name is already used to disparage other things. On the other hand, hearing Gordon Ramsay shout "this tripe is tripe!*" would be enormously entertaining.

*insert d3+1 instances of profanity where best applicable.

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21. "RE: (S70) S5DSE03 Fire Hazards"
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   >I for one would be extremely hesitant to eat anything whose name is
>already used to disparage other things. On the other hand, hearing
>Gordon Ramsay shout "this tripe is tripe!*" would be enormously
>entertaining.
>

Hmm. There's really no Vietnamese analog on Diqiu, so nobody's serving pho there.

It's the only time I've ever eaten tripe. Not bad, but I prefer the meatballs.

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22. "RE: (S70) S5DSE03 Fire Hazards"
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   >Not too keen on trying tripe, though. It's gone out of fashion here in
>the UK since WW2, nowadays it's more a pet food than anything else.

My version of "grandmother's chicken soup"<1> is menudo. Which contains tripe, so....

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24. "RE: (S70) S5DSE03 Fire Hazards"
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   >My version of "grandmother's chicken soup"<1> is menudo. Which
>contains tripe, so....

... There's a joke there, but it's just... too easy.

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25. "RE: (S70) S5DSE03 Fire Hazards"
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   >>My version of "grandmother's chicken soup"<1> is menudo. Which
>>contains tripe, so....
>
>... There's a joke there, but it's just... too easy.

I'm going to assume that you're dissing the boy band and not nana's menduo because I don't feel like driving three thousand miles to beat someone up.

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26. "RE: (S70) S5DSE03 Fire Hazards"
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   >>>My version of "grandmother's chicken soup"<1> is menudo. Which
>>>contains tripe, so....
>>
>>... There's a joke there, but it's just... too easy.
>
>I'm going to assume that you're dissing the boy band and not nana's
>menduo because I don't feel like driving three thousand miles to beat
>someone up.

Of course I'm not dissing your grandmother's menudo. Manufactured pop group. Contains tripe. Work with it. Banter not the same, etc. :)

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27. "RE: (S70) S5DSE03 Fire Hazards"
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   >>>>My version of "grandmother's chicken soup"<1> is menudo. Which
>>>>contains tripe, so....
>>>
>>>... There's a joke there, but it's just... too easy.
>>
>>I'm going to assume that you're dissing the boy band and not nana's
>>menduo because I don't feel like driving three thousand miles to beat
>>someone up.
>
>Of course I'm not dissing your grandmother's menudo. Manufactured pop
>group. Contains tripe. Work with it. Banter not the same, etc. :)

You're right, banter's not the same when you explain it. :)

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23. "RE: (S70) S5DSE03 Fire Hazards"
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   >>I watch a lot of cooking shows, several of them british. The food is
>>basically the same except where the US has a burrito the UK has kebab.
>
>The British also display a certain tragic tendency to consider
>internal organs edible. :)

Meh, organ meat is the best meat. Deep fried chicken livers, diced kidneys and hot peppers...damnit, now I'm hungry.

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17. "RE: (S70) S5DSE03 Fire Hazards"
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   >Ha! I get this now. There's a scene in a kaiten sushi place in the
>K-On! movie. (A kaiten sushi place in London, weirdly
>enough.)

I've actually eaten at a kaiten sushi place at Heathrow. It wasn't bad.


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2. "RE: (S70) S5DSE03 Fire Hazards"
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   >Beifong - Common slang for metalbender cops (less insulting
>than "tinhead" and not as dated by this time), from the two members of
>that illustrious family who served as chief of police in Republic
>City's early days.

I was wondering why this would still be a current term when I remembered the first real modern police force in London being called "bobbies" or "peelers" after Sir Robert Peel. That was nearly 200 years ago, and "bobbies" at least is still used here in Scotland, although I remember it being a lot more common in the 1960s/70s. Surprising how some terms just won't go away.

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3. "RE: (S70) S5DSE03 Fire Hazards"
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   >Surprising how some terms just won't go away.

I was having a discussion with a couple friends of mine just the other day about that concept, in the context of 'phone'. I was saying that a hand-held device that you talk into to talk to someone else far away will always be called a 'phone' because any new device that's invented (radiophone, cordless phone, cellular phone, VOIP phone) that uses the same general form inevitably gets shortened to 'phone' upon use. There are some regions where cellular telephones are called 'cells', sure, but by and large the overarching term when using it for real-time voice communications, at least in my experience, is 'phone'.

(And the verb associated with the use of a phone will always and forever be "call" ;-P )

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4. "RE: (S70) S5DSE03 Fire Hazards"
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   >There are some regions where cellular telephones are called 'cells',

In some places the going shorthand for a mobile telephone uses the part that isn't "telephone", but it's still there in the expansion of the phrase. In German, for instance, a mobile phone is ein Handy, but it's short for Handtelefon. (Similarly, in the UK the usual shorthand is "mobile".)

>(And the verb associated with the use of a phone will always and
>forever be "call" ;-P )

Except in Britain, where it's "ring" - even though most telephones haven't had actual bells on them for years!

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8. "RE: (S70) S5DSE03 Fire Hazards"
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   >>(And the verb associated with the use of a phone will always and
>>forever be "call" ;-P )
>
>Except in Britain, where it's "ring"

I've heard both over here, but maybe just as common is "phone". English as she is spoke. ;)

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10. "RE: (S70) S5DSE03 Fire Hazards"
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   LAST EDITED ON Dec-21-13 AT 06:08 AM (EST)
 
>>(And the verb associated with the use of a phone will always and
>>forever be "call" ;-P )
>
>Except in Britain, where it's "ring" - even though most telephones
>haven't had actual bells on them for years!

I expect in North American English, we will be "hanging up" our phones for a long time into the future. I've also heard "close" used for that action...but flip phones are becoming less common as well.

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Sometime last year, I had reason to come at it from the other angle, and was bemused to realize that I could go into any number of nearby stores and purchase a hand computer - a device with far more power than my first PC, let alone the Apple II I first put fingers to keyboard on - which can play games, capture images and even video, store contact information, browse the web, and (almost as an afterthought) transmit the sound of my voice along a wireless network... but I'd have to go out of my way, perhaps even place a special order online, to purchase a telephone.


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Nova Floresca
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5. "RE: (S70) S5DSE03 Fire Hazards"
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   >Kaiten - This character's name comes from one of Japan's
>desperation weapons of World War II, the Kaiten manned torpedo.

I was wondering if that was coincidental or not, and since it's not, is it his birth name, or is it his job title in the Agni Kai?

"This is probably a stupid question, but . . ."


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6. "RE: (S70) S5DSE03 Fire Hazards"
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   >>Kaiten - This character's name comes from one of Japan's
>>desperation weapons of World War II, the Kaiten manned torpedo.
>
>I was wondering if that was coincidental or not, and since it's not,
>is it his birth name, or is it his job title in the Agni Kai?

It isn't a job title. It probably is a street handle, not the name his parents gave him, but one should keep in mind that 25th-century Diqiu gangbangers are not likely to be familiar with the military history of 20th-century Japan, and as such, he probably did not name himself after a World War II suicide torpedo. That is, it's a meta-reference, not one that has significance inside the story.

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7. "RE: (S70) S5DSE03 Fire Hazards"
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>It isn't a job title. It probably is a street handle, not the
>name his parents gave him, but one should keep in mind that
>25th-century Diqiu gangbangers are not likely to be familiar with the
>military history of 20th-century Japan, and as such, he probably did
>not name himself after a World War II suicide torpedo.

It wouldn't surprise me if it were the name of a Fire Nation weapon during the war, though.


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11. "RE: (S70) S5DSE03 Fire Hazards"
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   >as such, he probably did
>not name himself after a World War II suicide torpedo.

nope. but he sure managed to turn himself into one.


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