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Steveo
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Apr-16-04, 02:51 PM (EDT) |
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"Well, it's been quite a while since I was a *lurker* he"
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Ah, how time passes by. Let's see. I used to be under the nick Kylone. (or kylone... can't remember right now) Last time I was seriously on this board was... Sept of 2002. I've been a fan of Eyrie since 1996 (I came by way of Darren Steffler's Twisted Path). I've always liked its "good guys struggle against the darkness" bearing and the faithfulness the authors give towards the spirit of the stuff they borrow. Truth be told, I became a RCW since I first read Wounded Rose. The quality of production floored me, even considering Neon Exedous Evangelion. I eagerly (but patiently) wait for more to come. BTW, the subject line is an exaggeration. I log in every now and then to see then fans' reactions to new works and the database entries. (sotd's just aren't my thing)I just never made the effort to post. Now I just gotta say (read: contribute) something meaningful on/to the boards... (Geez, I'm reminded of Amelia wil Tesla Sailoon from The Slayers, burning desire and all...) Laters --- PFC Christopher Stevenson A Co 13th Sig Bn, 1st Calvary Division, US Army Deployed (3 guesses where) since March 1, 2004 P.S. Oh yeah, I joined the Army at the end of 2002, ("Operator, how can I help you, sir or ma'am?") and somehow I think I maybe just found a career by accident. Anyone here familiar with what it means to be a Warrant Officer? (Hey, *shrug* you never know...) |
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Anpwhotep
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Apr-16-04, 03:12 PM (EDT) |
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1. "RE: Well, it's been quite a while since I was a *lurker"
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>P.S. Oh yeah, I joined the Army at the end of 2002, ("Operator, how >can I help you, sir or ma'am?") and somehow I think I maybe just found >a career by accident. Anyone here familiar with what it means to be a >Warrant Officer? (Hey, *shrug* you never know...) Yup. It means you're not really enlisted, and you're not really an officer, and nobody quite knows what to do with you but at least you're not getting shit on the way an enlisted person does. I forget how the W-x ranks compare in pay to the O-x ranks, but I know it's overall better than the E-x ranks, at least until you get into MSgt territory. (I did my time from 1980-1984. USAF, Security for 2 years, then Disaster Preparedness for 2 years. Yes, for 2 years, I was one of those sadistic SOBs who taught you how to find the leaks in your gas mask...the hard way.) |
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Steveo
Member since Apr-16-04
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Apr-17-04, 01:31 PM (EDT) |
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3. "RE: Well, it's been quite a while since I was a *lurker"
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(Heh... I've gotta watch subject the line length in the future...) I'm considering staying in the Army as a Warrant Officer in Signal (specifically in information sytems), and I was wondering if there was anyone around that knew what that kinda job would be like. I guess it's gonna be like Basic: nothing can really prepare you--it can only be truly be understood first hand. FYI: WO-1 roughly tracks paywise with (maybe 5% less than) 0-1, CW-2 w/ 0-2 and so on. But a WO-1 can't get a bonus (stupid law), which...disinclines many Army soldiers from "going warrant," but I'm beginning to think it's worth it. thx for the info, --- PFC Christopher Stevenson US Army Deployed (3 guesses where) since March 1, 2004 |
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CuSO4
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Apr-17-04, 06:31 PM (EDT) |
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4. "RE: Well, it's been quite a while since I was a *lurker"
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Pardon my ignorance, I am not familiar with the structure of army. What is the difference between Warranted, Enlisted, and Commissioned personnals ? Thanks in advance. -- CuSO4
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zojojojo
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Apr-17-04, 10:09 PM (EDT) |
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5. "RE: Well, it's been quite a while since I was a *lurker"
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>Pardon my ignorance, I am not familiar with the structure of army. > >What is the difference between Warranted, Enlisted, and Commissioned >personnals ? Enlisted: not an officer. When you walk into the recruiting office and enlist, that's what you are.
Warranted: sort-of an officer. You're a non-commissioned officer (sergeant or equiv) and 'they' want to give you the power and responsibility of an officer without actually commissioning you, so they give you a 'warrant'. Commissioned: you're an officer and a gentle(wo)man. AFAIK, you can't get here without higher education, usually including an officer candidate class of some kind. People that finish ROTC are commissioned as officers. (Time was, you could actually buy a commission, so your rank was a function of your wealth. Those days are gone) N.B. Any or all of the preceding may be overruled by someone who actually spent some time in the military. I just went out with a ROTC girl in college... -Z not in the armed forces, but willing to stick his nose in anyway Rabid Crack Turtle 3.14159 --- If G-d had wanted us to think for ourselves, He'd have given us brains. |
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drakensisthered
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Apr-18-04, 05:03 AM (EDT) |
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6. "Warrant vs. Commission"
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I believe the legal distinction between Warrant Officers and Commissioned officers is that Commissions are granted by the govt (in your case Congress) and Warrants are granted by the military service (e.g. Army). Traditionally the Warrant Officer arose in navies in order to differentiate the noble or gentry types who were in charge from the grubby fellows who knew what they were doing with a boat. Warrants officers were officers but not gentlemen, in theory. Once the need for technically skilled personnel arose in armies (and later air forces) the principle was extended. The US Army website has some much better explanations than what I've just written, IIRC. |
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Steveo
Member since Apr-16-04
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Apr-18-04, 01:43 PM (EDT) |
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7. "RE: Well, it's been quite a while since I was a *lurker"
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I've been enlisted in the Army for... 19 months now. I'll enlighten you as best as I can. In the Army, a Warrant Officer is an officer that's (usually) without a command. They are experts in their field of training--far more so than enlisted. Helicopter pilots are probably the best known warrants in the Army. In the Signal Corps (where I work) you would see enlisted soldiers (privates and sergeants) running cables and monitoring equipment, officers as administrators, and warrant officers as technicians to fix snags (and be trivia experts on the equipment). There are warrant officers pretty much for any large category of equipment the Army has--I've seen 'em for vehicles (HMMWVs), communication equipment, and computers. I'm sure there's a lot more than what I've met. Enlisted are promoted (or is it issed a warant?) to a warrant officer when they meet a certain set of requirements: E-5 pay grade (sergeant), the Peer Leadership and Development Class (PLDC), 30 college credits, and a recomendation from an existing warrant officer. (I may be missing a couple, and up to 2 of these are wavierable, meaning that with authorization they can be ignored.) --- PFC Christopher Stevenson US Army Deployed (3 guesses where) since March 1, 2004 Geez, now I feel a bit like a recruiter... |
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