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"Speaking of Star Wars,"
 
   is Rebels any good? I sort of went off The Clone Wars about halfway through.

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  Subject     Author     Message Date     ID  
  RE: Speaking of Star Wars, pjmoyermoderator Dec-26-15 1
     RE: Speaking of Star Wars, BZArchermoderator Dec-26-15 2
     RE: Speaking of Star Wars, Gryphonadmin Dec-28-15 5
         RE: Speaking of Star Wars, zwol Dec-28-15 6
             RE: Speaking of Star Wars, Gryphonadmin Dec-28-15 7
         RE: Speaking of Star Wars, Gryphonadmin Dec-28-15 8
             RE: Speaking of Star Wars, pjmoyermoderator Dec-28-15 9
                 RE: Speaking of Star Wars, Gryphonadmin Dec-28-15 10
  RE: Speaking of Star Wars, eriktown Dec-28-15 3
     RE: Speaking of Star Wars, eriktown Dec-28-15 4
     RE: Speaking of Star Wars, Malkarris Dec-29-15 12
  RE: Speaking of Star Wars, Gryphonadmin Dec-29-15 11
     RE: Speaking of Star Wars, Mephronmoderator Dec-30-15 13
         RE: Speaking of Star Wars, pjmoyermoderator Dec-30-15 14
     RE: Speaking of Star Wars, ebony14 Dec-31-15 15
         RE: Speaking of Star Wars, Malkarris Dec-31-15 16

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pjmoyermoderator
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1. "RE: Speaking of Star Wars,"
In response to message #0
 
   >is Rebels any good? I sort of went off The Clone Wars
>about halfway through.

Very good. It's a Ralph McQuarrie concept painting come to life. You don't technically need to be involved in Clone Wars at all, though as of the current writing both Clone Wars, Rebels and the first two trilogies are all part of the same continuity.

--- Philip






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2. "RE: Speaking of Star Wars,"
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   Agreed. Voice acting is excellent, storylines are good, and I love several of the characters.

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5. "RE: Speaking of Star Wars,"
In response to message #1
 
   >>is Rebels any good? I sort of went off The Clone Wars
>>about halfway through.
>
>Very good. It's a Ralph McQuarrie concept painting come to life. You
>don't technically need to be involved in Clone Wars at all,

I wasn't particularly concerned about missing out some fine point of continuity or another, it's just that it seems to be at least a few of the same people making it.

Anyway, I watched the... I guess you'd call it the pilot? The zeroth episode, last night. I liked it, though not entirely without qualification (I can see myself really hoping someone will drown the Main Character eventually, for instance). It does, as another poster suggested it would, remind me of the West End Star Wars RPG (though not my own favorite game of such, which is an Elder Days Story Time post waiting to happen :). At this early stage, I think my favorite thing about it is how thoroughly and deliberately not glamorous the twi'lek character is. One does enjoy a good bucking of stereotypes.

>though as of the current writing both Clone Wars, Rebels
>and the first two trilogies are all part of the same continuity.

Well, again, that's not necessarily a problem. See, the thing about The Clone Wars that sort of cumulatively bothered me until I couldn't watch it any more was the overarching futility of the thing. However the individual adventures turn out, you know how the whole thing is going to end and that's "badly"—makes it progressively harder to care, at least to me. The whole prequel era has that problem, and TCW has, by definition, a sort of peak amount of it.

The inter-trilogy period, on the other hand... well, there's at least some potential there, although it does kind of run into a different problem, similar to the one that Star Wars Galaxies had. SWG was set between Star Wars and The Empire Strikes Back, a period of galactic history when there was a grand total of one (1) Jedi Master and one (1) half-assed Jedi padawan—who hadn't met!—in the universe. Which made it a little challenging that the game world was swarming with the bastards. :) In this instance, you've got the one semiretired cowboy Jedi and the Kid Who Is Strong in the Force, which, fair enough, but A, the writers will have a constant temptation to proliferate them and B, if they are trying to integrate this storyline firmly into the original trilogy, then where are those guys in five years? Doesn't bode well...

Still! It is pretty, and it does have a bunch more of that "frontier spirit" thing that TCW lacked. I often got the feeling watching the pilot that Rebels was making reference to something I'm not familiar with, which was odd but not offensive. The first season is pretty cheap on iTunes at the moment (or at least it was last night, be just my luck if the same ended this morning :), so I'll probably spring for it and keep watching for a while.

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6. "RE: Speaking of Star Wars,"
In response to message #5
 
   >it does kind of run into a
>different problem, similar to the one that Star Wars Galaxies
>had. SWG was set between Star Wars and The Empire Strikes
>Back
, a period of galactic history when there was a grand total of
>one (1) Jedi Master and one (1) half-assed Jedi padawan—who
>hadn't met!—in the universe. Which made it a little challenging
>that the game world was swarming with the bastards. :)

I may or may not have mentioned this here before ... I never played SWG myself, but the design lead, Raph Koster, went on to found a company that my SO worked for briefly, and he has a whole bunch of interesting essays on video game design on his website. This includes a postmortem series on SWG, and one of those essays is all about Jedi, and why they wound up having the game world be swarming with the bastards, and the "crazy idea [he] still wishes we had done" instead.


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7. "RE: Speaking of Star Wars,"
In response to message #6
 
   >>it does kind of run into a
>>different problem, similar to the one that Star Wars Galaxies
>>had. SWG was set between Star Wars and The Empire Strikes
>>Back
, a period of galactic history when there was a grand total of
>>one (1) Jedi Master and one (1) half-assed Jedi padawan—who
>>hadn't met!—in the universe. Which made it a little challenging
>>that the game world was swarming with the bastards. :)
>
>I may or may not have mentioned this here before ...

Indeed you did. Or at least someone did, because I know I've seen that before.

--G.
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8. "RE: Speaking of Star Wars,"
In response to message #5
 
   What happened to the other half of their R5 unit? No wonder he's so pissed off all the time.

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9. "RE: Speaking of Star Wars,"
In response to message #8
 
   >What happened to the other half of their R5 unit? No wonder he's so
>pissed off all the time.

He's a C1-10P unit. A very heavily modified, nay, bodged-together C1 unit. Unlike WALL-e units, parts aren't as easy to come by for them anymore.

--- Philip






Philip J. Moyer
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10. "RE: Speaking of Star Wars,"
In response to message #9
 
   >>What happened to the other half of their R5 unit? No wonder he's so
>>pissed off all the time.
>
>He's a C1-10P unit. A very heavily modified, nay, bodged-together C1
>unit. Unlike WALL-e units, parts aren't as easy to come by for them
>anymore.

And here I thought they called him Chopper because he'd been chopped like a hot rod at some point.

--G.
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3. "RE: Speaking of Star Wars,"
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   The best way to describe Rebels - and I've heard a lot of people put it this way - is that it strikes exactly the same tone as everyone's favorite old West End Star Wars campaign.


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4. "RE: Speaking of Star Wars,"
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   (This means it's great, you should watch it.)


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12. "RE: Speaking of Star Wars,"
In response to message #3
 
   Nine times out of ten, I agree with this. But the tenth time...


Since this could be spoilers so highlight to read.


Well, second season has an episode called Wings of the Masters. If anyone remembers the West End Games adventure Strike Force Shantipole, its like that but take out the Verpine, the asteroid field, Ackbar, and turn the B-wing from a heavily armed assault fighter with some speed and maneuverability problems to UBER DEATH STAR in fighter form. But they kept the name Shatipole, and all of this is before we've yet to see an X-wing in the series at all. Yeah, I wasn't happy, but overall, well see above.

End spoilers.

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11. "RE: Speaking of Star Wars,"
In response to message #0
 
   LAST EDITED ON Dec-29-15 AT 03:31 PM (EST)
 
One thing I noticed right away about Rebels is that it carries on the Star Wars tradition of stupidly obvious negative-connotation supporting cast names. Agent Kallas is right up there with the likes of Cad Bane, Darth Sidious, and—my personal favorite—Elan Sleazebaggano. At this rate I'm surprised they didn't just get it over with in TFA and call Kylo Ren "Baad Guyy".

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13. "RE: Speaking of Star Wars,"
In response to message #11
 
   LAST EDITED ON Dec-30-15 AT 03:42 PM (EST)
 
>At this rate I'm surprised they didn't just get it
>over with in TFA and call Kylo Ren "Baad Guyy".

Already taken, apparently.

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14. "RE: Speaking of Star Wars,"
In response to message #13
 
   >>At this rate I'm surprised they didn't just get it
>>over with in TFA and call Kylo Ren "Baad Guyy".
>
>Already taken, apparently.

In more than one medium, even.

--- Philip






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15. "RE: Speaking of Star Wars,"
In response to message #11
 
   >One thing I noticed right away about Rebels is that it carries
>on the Star Wars tradition of stupidly obvious negative-connotation
>supporting cast names. Agent Kallas is right up there with the likes
>of Cad Bane, Darth Sidious, and—my personal favorite—Elan
>Sleazebaggano. At this rate I'm surprised they didn't just get it
>over with in TFA and call Kylo Ren "Baad Guyy".
>

Wait until you meet the designer of the B-Wing.

Ebony the Black Dragon

It's not a bad name. On the contrary, it's about as appropriate as it could be.

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16. "RE: Speaking of Star Wars,"
In response to message #15
 
   Well, that's an homage, which is a bit different that a pun, least in my book.

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