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"Fly Girls art designs"
 
   LAST EDITED ON Sep-12-14 AT 03:46 PM (EDT)
 
trboturtle2 and Mr. Fnord said in the nearly-full original Fly Girls thread:

>>We need fanart!
>
>I can do that!
>
>Well, no, okay, I can't do that - I'm not an artist - but I've
>got a con coming in just under 72 hours, so post some nice detailed
>descriptions & I'll see what I can do. No promises, queues limited
>etc. you know how this goes.

Hmm.

OK, here's what I've got off the top of my head for some of the main cast. (The number of them is just to provide a range of choices, not a statement of expectation. :)

Edit: Adding other people's contributions as I come across them.

Hurricane

Hurry is a bit of a tomboy, and prefers her PE clothes to her proper uniform, which she never quite seems to be wearing correctly. She keeps her light brown hair short and unfussy and can't see the point of makeup (in part, annoyingly for her classmates, because she doesn't require the embellishment - really good bones). She usually has a look of slight mischief about her and a glint in her blue eyes, as if she's either up to something or trying to think of something to be up to. (Conversely, on the rare occasions when she gets really angry, it shows much more obviously than in most of the others; her face goes crimson, the pupils of her eyes almost disappear, the sinews of her neck and forearms show, her fingers become claws, and her teeth take on a striking resemblance to a bear trap.) She has a surprisingly delicate build for such a dedicated athlete, and (somewhat to some people's surprise) is capable of great refinement when the situation calls for it. She can wear a dress, sit with her knees together, and hold a teacup properly, and when called upon to do so, she will. It's just not her default state.

Spitfire

In contrast to Hurry, Spitfire is a tall and athletic young woman with long, slightly curly brown hair, brown eyes, and a general air of calm, contained maturity. She's very proper and reserved, and the most grown-up-looking of the main characters - she could easily pass for an adult, particularly once the tournament is fully under way and Britannia switches from school to service uniforms. Most of all, she's agonizingly, well, English, with full measures of the national gifts for cheerful stoicism in the face of discomfort, dry understatement, wry self-deprecation, and always looking perfectly tailored and put together no matter what. She can also use apology as a weapon in a way that must be witnessed to be believed.

(Spitfire has a twin sister, Seafire, who's in the Royal Navy's Fleet Air Arm instead of the RAF. The only visual differences between them are that Seafire's hair is even lighter, almost blonde, and she wears an RN uniform. Also, she almost always has a bandage on some part of her, as she's a bit accident-prone.)

Mosquito

As befits someone who tends to call other bombers on every team "baggage-incontinent lardarses", Mozzie's short and slender and keeps her mahogany hair ruthlessly short. The beige beret scraping it back out of her hazel eyes goes nicely with her beaten-up engineer's uniform, a light tan jumpsuit with too many pockets, most of which have either packets of biscuits or curious bits of machinery inside them. She's also by far the most tanned of the bombers, her skin the kind of wooden brown one only gets through long stays somewhere forrin an' 'ot. (When she's in such a place, she routinely ties the top of her jumpsuit around her waist by the sleeves and sports the grubby rib-knit tank top look north of her beltline.) She also tends to have on her person:

- a Box Brownie camera,
- a .455 Webley revolver that looks like it ought to break her wrist every time she fires it (which is quite often),
- yet more biscuits,
- a Lewes bomb, and
- a dirty great stabbin' knife.

Zero considers that last one undignified. Mozzie privately opines that she knows chaps who could carve their name and address on Zero's guts before she's had time to get that overgrown fish slicer of hers out of its scabbard.

Lysander

Despite her name, Lysander is very much a girl, and though she's unarmed - hell, because she's unarmed - she's among the bravest aviators Britannia has. Even Hurricane admits that Lysander's job is absolutely terrifying and she couldn't do it. On the darkest nights of the month, with no moon to reveal her, Lysa slips into occupied Europe and uses her spectacular short-field performance to land... well, virtually anywhere... so as to drop off or pick up spies, leave supplies and equipment for the resistance, and/or convey messages between various covert operatives in the field and their handlers back in London that are too sensitive to be entrusted to the radio. Slim and dark, olive-skinned, with wide guileless eyes and an air of fresh-faced, innocent charm, she speaks perfect French, Dutch, German, and Czech, and is basically the last person you - or the Gestapo - would suspect of being a British fly-girl on a secret mission to help the resistance bomb an ammo dump - and if you take your eye off her for one second, Mr. Nazi Officer, she'll shank you with your own letter opener and be out that window before you've finished bleeding out. Vive la France! Vive l'Europe libre!

Me 109

Everyone expects Me 109 to be blonde, but her hair is actually dark brown (she's Bavarian, so that's not unusual). She does have blue eyes, though they are a very dark blue. She keeps her hair cut short, never wears makeup, and even her clothes that aren't her uniform look like uniforms. She's smaller than most people expect on first meeting, but holds herself very erect, though close inspection will reveal that she walks with a slight limp thanks to an injury she suffered when she was playing in Spain. (This sometimes gives her trouble with landings.) She also has the only visible battle scars of any of the main cast: one on her left cheek (which resembles, but isn't, a Heidelberg dueling scar) and a number on her back and legs (revealed only rarely, as for example in the episode where the Germania girls all go to Prora for some R&R).

Fw 190

190, on the other hand, is from Bremen and looks exactly like you would expect a German fighter girl to look - blonde, blue-eyed, buxom. (Well, she's radial-engined, after all. They've generally got a lot up front, albeit not to a ridiculous extent - it's not that kind of show.) She's the tallest of the main European characters (Do 17 is taller, but only appears occasionally). Out of uniform, she's considerably more feminine and glamorous than Me 109, but in an aggressive, show-offy kind of way that comes across as a bit forced, like she's trying too hard. Her hair is long and wavy, usually loose, but she has been known to rock the braided-pigtails Valkyrie look in combat.

Zero

Zero is tiny and delicate-looking and would probably be adorable except that she has a serious case of angry resting face; her neutral expression (and even her sleeping expression, as we occasionally see) says "Don't push me, because I will cut you, bitch." She wears her long, straight black hair loose or in a simple ponytail, except on really formal occasions, when she has the skills to go straight to town with the coiffures if necessary. On duty, she customarily wears her full Imperial Navy dress whites, gloves and all; off duty she's virtually always to be found in dojo clothes, usually gi and hakama, white over navy blue. She always carries a katana and a Nambu Type 14 pistol. She hates being dirty and will always wash up if she can, even when (for example) evading Communist guerillas after being shot down over central China. If she's ever dirty and not doing anything about it, that's an indication either that the situation is really desperate, or that she's too focused on something else to have noticed yet.

Hayabusa

Taller and tougher-looking than Zero (though the latter is an illusion), Haya has a cruel streak that's never far from the surface. Where Zero's resting face says she'll cut you if she has to, Haya's says she's hoping you give her an excuse. When she gets wound up, which she does a lot, she has an even scarier psycho face than Hurry's, because it's smiling with all those jagged triangular teeth. She's much less fastidious than her cousin, and her army uniform is often rumpled and grease-stained. Her hair is much shorter, and she does nothing with it; she doesn't care about her appearance at all. Haya is only interested in fighting, winning, and - most importantly - making sure the losers suffer, and she doesn't figure charm or style will help with any of that. If she wants anything else out of life, she figures she'll just take it, either by force or by stealth. Making nicey-nice with people is a waste of time and energy. She also doesn't carry her issue sword, considering it a pointless affectation.

Hien

This is a girl with a serious identity crisis, an oddball even by Japanese standards. She looks somewhat like her elder sibling Hayabusa, but with a shorter stature, shoulder-length glossy hair, and darker skin. And whereas Hayabusa has her features set in what seems to be a perpetual scowl, Hien has an open and friendly face, jabbering away in a German accent when she's not stuffing her mouth with fresh pasta. This has the amusing habit of leaving stains on her scarf, a necessity for the high altitudes she loves to fly at. Unfortunately, while she can beat P-40 in a match and even proves a bother for Coach LeMay's star B-29 (who Hien has affectionately dubbed "B-san"), Hien is also a bit of a sickly girl, frequently consigned to bed rest.

P-51

The all-American glamor girl who thinks she's all that and mostly is (but isn't usually very obnoxious about it), 51's a bit of a chameleon. She's blonde and blue-eyed like Fw 190, but slighter of build (particularly in front), and she's not as... predatory-looking. In fact, she looks very friendly and approachable, the "cool classmate" type (my mental image is not unlike Kay from Girls und Panzer). Depending on what she wears and how she does her hair, she can look like any age from 12 to 24, and pass herself off as anything from an English schoolgirl to a budding film starlet, but her default mode is to look like just what she is, an athletic and cheerful American high school girl. She and Spitfire could be (and indeed are) cousins.

P-40

P-40 looks older than she is; she's really about the same age as Me 109, but she looks like a grown woman in her mid-20s. Partly that's for the same reason that 109 seems a bit world-weary - she's seen a lot of action - but mostly it's because she's a more mature aircraft than the others, having done so much growing up that her designation actually changed (she was born P-36). She has slightly curly auburn hair which she wears shoulder-length, brown eyes, and a suntan from being outside so much, and is the ruggedest-looking (and bustiest) of the inline-engined fighters. She dresses like Indiana Jones (sans hat) in patched khakis and a much-weathered A4 jacket (with an AVG blood chit on the back whenever she's depicted in CBI, but usually not drawn that way elsewhere), but with the tails of her shirt untucked and usually tied up to bare her midriff. Rarely for a Western Allies character, she carries a sidearm, a Colt M1911A1. She's the open-honest-face type, always cheerful and unadorned, but unlike many habitually-unkempt characters, she doesn't "clean up nice" - put her in a dress (or even a proper uniform) and she just looks uncomfortable and ill-at-ease.

P-47

Much of the description for Hurry could be applied to 47 and then some. She is almost everything that comes to mind when one thinks of the classic girl off the farm: buxom, broad-shouldered, tanned, and more comfortable in jeans and a man's work shirt than she is in some girly uniform. Only her black-Irish coloration breaks the mold (the stereotypical farmgirl being blonde and all). You could draw comparisons between her and P-40 as well, as 40 did serve for a time with her elder sister (P-43, aka "Lady Not Appearing In This Film"), and the two share the same preference with getting the job done than looking good while doing it. She's also the subject of a running gag that she can carry loads that boggle the other girls' minds without the least bit of discomfort. Just don't joke about her weight where she can hear you unless you want a knuckle sandwich.

P-38

If P-51 is the refined beauty of Columbia High and P-47 the classic farm girl, then P-38 is the poster girl that guys love. Glossy blond hair, ample chested, and long legged, 38 is the kinda girl who loves the attention she gets. But like an Hollywood beauty, she's not without her flaws, being prone to getting hot under the collar and cutting people down without thinking about it. And she literally gets hot under the collar, as many are the time that she can be found sitting at her desk with her shirt partly unbuttoned and fanning herself as she complains about the heat. Of course, to combat this tendency, she usually wears a cut-down version of the school uniform, trading the skirt for a pair of shorts and a shirt with the midsection shortened.

(Out-of-band note: She physically resembles Kongō from Arpeggio of Blue Steel, but has blue eyes and a less weird hairstyle, though still with the twin-tails part. Mannerisms are also similar - she slouches fetchingly in chairs with her legs crossed at the knee like that - but her personality is quite different.)

Wildcat

The original star of the Columbia High Pacific Conference team, Wildcat is also noticeably the shortest of the girls playing for Columbia. Fittingly, she's also the oldest of the team, over a year older than P-40. But under her uniform is a wiry build, allowing her to punch above her weight and hold her own even against the infamously slippery Zero. Like the cat for which she's named, she sports tan hair cut in a simple pageboy style to fit under her flying cap, a pug nose, and sea blue eyes. It's not usual to find her sporting a bandaid or a new bruise, as while she's at home on a carrier deck, her short legs tend to make landings interesting. Wildcat continues to soldier on long into the Conference, serving on the smaller carriers while the starring role goes to...

Hellcat

The undisputed queen of the flattops, Hellcat is everything her older sister Wildcat was and more. While both share the same sturdy build, Hellcat is taller and her figure more filled out. She still has the same pug nose and blue eyes, but her own tan hair is lighter and longer, usually kept in a ponytail except when she flies, when it's rolled into a bun under her cap. Where Wildcat held her own against Zero, Hellcat routinely mops the floor with her, causing no small amount of grief for the little samurai. By the end of the Pacific Conference, Hellcat has gotten her feet dirty, routinely joining her cousin Corsair in bombing missions on island targets.

Corsair

Corsair looks like a cross between Hellcat and P-47; she has the latter's build (and great thunderous voice), but her coloration is more like the former's, except her hair is on the other side of the nebulous borderline between light brown and dirty blonde. She's a Marine and (like most Marines) proud of it, sporting the globe-and-anchor tattooed prominently on her right biceps (which is usually on show, as she either rolls up her sleeves as high as they'll go or just doesn't wear an overshirt) and the buzzcut regulations don't actually specify for women. She chain-smokes cigars and might be even more foul-mouthed than P-40. In the manga, a running gag is for her to occasionally utter speech balloons that are entirely blacked out except for words like "and", "of", and "the". Her secret shame is that, for all that she totally loves being a Marine now, she really only transferred to the Corps in the first place because she gets seasick on carriers.

Yak-9

When the average Westerner pictured a Russian airplane or a Russian woman in 1940, the first word that sprang to mind was probably "tractor". Yak-9 is... not like that. She's not glamorous - almost aggressively not so, with her black hair chopped short and slicked back, her ill-tailored Soviet Air Force uniform, and her complete lack of cosmetics - but she's got those great Slavic cheekbones and big grey eyes so intense they look like they could see through three feet of lead. She's also extremely sophisticated, with a taste for classical music and opera - but very guarded about it, as a child of the now-all-but-extinct Muscovite intelligentsia. Too many of her father's friends have gone to the gulag for no reason other than being more cultured than Stalin. Out of the cockpit, she carries a Nagant revolver and a certain readiness to use it on the nearest Hitlerite bandit. About the only people she hates more than them are the craven opportunists of the NKVD.

Il-2

Ilyusha looks as tough as she is, and she's tough enough to survive on the Eastern Front in a job that involves constant exposure to some of the world's heaviest and most accurate ground fire, so what does that tell you? Ilyusha is hard, in every sense of the word. There's no decorative padding on her anywhere, physically or psychologically - she seems to be made of little more than tanned skin stretched taut over 150 pounds or so of bone and muscle and quiet determination. She keeps her dark brown hair back in a French braid and takes the sleeves off her flightsuits because they just get in the way. She always dresses exactly the same way, come rain, shine, sleet, or general inspection. She is completely indifferent to heat, cold, pain, danger, and rank. "If you haven't destroyed a tank today, Comrade General, then I fail to see what you and I could possibly have to talk about." She does have a lighter side, but her aerial colleagues rarely see it, as she generally only unwinds in the company of the infantrymen and tankers whom she supports from the air. And their vodka. Those guys practically worship her, so she's never got an empty glass when she's hanging with them.

P-39

More Russian than the Russians, Kobrastochka looks so at home in her uniform it almost seems improbable. She's like the one person in the Soviet Air Force whose uniform fits properly. It's just fate. Even though she doesn't look particularly Slavic - she's distantly related to P-40 and there's a bit of a resemblance, and her red hair and unusual height both stand out like flags in your average crowd of Soviet citizens - she inhabits the role so well that people don't really think about it. She always wears a pair of aviator goggles, but rarely actually puts them on properly; they're almost always up on her forehead. Oddly for an aviator, she carries a Mosin-Nagant Model 1938 carbine. Some people used to joke it was so she'd have something to fight with when she got shot down and joined the infantry, until she demonstrated what a crack shot she is with it a few times and those people got tired of scrounging up replacement hats.

--G.
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1. "RE: Fly Girls art designs"
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   Mosquito
As befits someone who tends to call other bombers on every team "baggage-incontinent lardarses", Mozzie's short and slender and keeps her mahogany hair ruthlessly short. The beige beret scraping it back out of her hazel eyes goes nicely her beaten-up engineer's uniform, a light tan jumpsuit with too many pockets, most of which have either packets of biscuits or curious bits of machinery inside them. She's also by far the most tanned of the bombers, her skin the kind of wooden brown one only gets through long stays somewhere forrin an' 'ot. She also tends to have on her person:-
a Box Brownie camera,
a .455 Webley revolver that looks like it ought to break her wrist every time she fires it (which is quite often),
yet more biscuits,
a Lewes bomb,
and a dirty great stabbin' knife.

Zero considers that last one undignified. Mozzie privately opines that she knows chaps who could carve their name and address on her guts before she's had time to get that overgrown fish slice out of its hilt.

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4. "RE: Fly Girls art designs"
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   >Mosquito
>As befits someone who tends to call other bombers on every team
>"baggage-incontinent lardarses", Mozzie's short and slender and keeps
>her mahogany hair ruthlessly short. The beige beret scraping it back
>out of her hazel eyes goes nicely her beaten-up engineer's uniform, a
>light tan jumpsuit with too many pockets, most of which have either
>packets of biscuits or curious bits of machinery inside them. She's
>also by far the most tanned of the bombers, her skin the kind of
>wooden brown one only gets through long stays somewhere forrin an'
>'ot.

Heh, I like this. One expects that when she's actually in that sort of environment, she spends a lot of time with the top half of her jumpsuit tied around her waist by the sleeves and rockin' the grubby rib-knit tank top look.

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   Well! I'm gonna make some artboy work for his supper this weekend! Probably won't get all of them, but I'll at least get a couple (actually had P-40 on my shopping list, though my mental image was more Marion than Indy but YMMV. :)


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   LAST EDITED ON Sep-11-14 AT 05:44 PM (EDT)
 
>(actually had P-40 on my shopping list, though my mental image was
>more Marion than Indy but YMMV. :)

It's the jacket, mainly, I think - and the fact that 40 is totally the kind of girl who would stand there watching someone do a fancy intimidation display with a scimitar, then haul out her .45 and shoot him because she hasn't got time for that crap. (This mental image includes Zero standing there unable to decide whether to be impressed or disapprove, because on the one hand it was kind of cheap, but on the other it wasn't a proper challenge anyway and they really don't have time. Must be during their end-of-war/postwar mercenary freelancer phase from the late manga.)

Whatever the reason, in my mind she comes across as sort of a less battered R63 Indy. She might well sound much more like Marion, though. It's a cartoon, after all. :)

--G.
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   LAST EDITED ON Sep-11-14 AT 05:57 PM (EDT)
 
It's funny, but I actually would switch around Hurry and Spitfire's descriptions, with the former as the tomboy always covered with a few smidges of dirt or grime while the latter is the proper lady of good breeding. Spitfire has the classical duelist's body, lithe and finely muscled, her movements graceful and yet purposeful. It's why she's seen as the team captain of Britannia, as while Hurry did the heavy lifting in the early matches with Germania, Spitfire's distinctive looks and grace were seized upon by coaches as the way forward for the team.

Hurry, by contrast, is a bit shorter and stouter, her clothes a little shabbier than Spitfire's. Her hair is kept short and usually tousled, as she can't be bothered to keep it in any one look due to the workload she's dealing with. And while Spitfire is the consummate lady, always with knees closed and tea cup held perfectly, Hurry's the kinda girl who does whatever feels comfortable. She was also the trailblazer of the two, taking to sea first and trodding on the sands of Africa before Spitfire made her own debuts. One could say the difference between the two is that of a city girl and a farmer's daughter.

I like P-51's description, though I'd add that she's embarrassed by her past, as she was quite the tomboy in her youth and even went by the nickname "Apache" for awhile before puberty hit. Even now, there's a bit of a resemblance between her and P-40, such that people who don't know better swear the two could be sisters or close cousins.

And it's not just P-40's looks that mark her as a more traveled girl, her clothes also have all the signs, with the weather-beaten look of her jacket, the patched holes in her khakis, and a few bright scars on her Colt. While she's brash, cheerful, and sometimes foul-mouthed, there's an obvious wariness to her voice, as if she'll be glad when the whole conference is over so she can go home to a much-deserved rest.

P-47

Much of the description for Hurry could be applied to 47 and then some. She is everything that comes to mind when one thinks of the classic girl off the farm: Fair-haired, buxom, stout, tanned, and more comfortable in jeans and a man's work shirt than she is in a girly uniform. You could draw comparisons between her and P-40 as well, as 40 did serve for a time with her elder sister (P-43, aka "Lady Not Appearing In This Film"), and the two share the same preference with getting the job done than looking good while doing it. She's also the subject, as I noted before, of a running gag that she can carry loads that boggle the other girl's mind without the least bit of discomfort. Just don't joke about her weight where she can hear you unless you want a knuckle sandwich.

P-38

If P-51 is the refined beauty of Columbia High and P-47 the classic farm girl, then P-38 is the poster girl that guys love. Glossy blond hair, ample chested, and long legged, 38 is the kinda girl who loves the attention she gets. But like an Hollywood beauty, she's not without her flaws, being prone to getting hot under the collar and cutting people down without thinking about it. And she literally gets hot under the collar, as many are the time that she can be found sitting at her desk with her shirt partly unbuttoned and fanning herself as she complains about the heat. Of course, to combat this tendency, she usually wears a cut-down version of the school uniform, trading the skirt for a pair of shorts and a shirt with the midsection shortened.

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6. "RE: Fly Girls art designs"
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P-38's definitely the Forces' Sweetheart, and Mozzie'll swear up and down she doesn't have the 38 edition of the Coppertone ad folded up in her pocket. Yes, I too dream of the day someone cooks up a doujinshi of them kicking Jerry in the fork together, possibly with what is known down our way as "a right good seeing-to up against the cooker" afterwards. I wear my kinks on my sleeve.

Also, all this has reminded me of my favourite Mozzie moment, which it is utterly remiss of you not to have pointed out before. "Q and K", series 4, episode 7 (407 in your confusing system of nomenclature), shows Mosquito at her best, gives Werner one of his best lines - "She is designated Ta-154 Moskito, because she's small and annoying and makes you want to flail at her with a flyswat" - and gives us Ta-chan. Ta-chan is, well, is the best pisstake of sugar-coated-kitten-fart moe-moe designs I've ever seen. The whole skit with Werner Von Braun saying "You have not been cloned" in an increasingly desperate voice while the little brat yammers on in his ear at nineteen to the dozen. During the finale of that episode, wherein she gets an almighty pasting at the hands of dear ol' Mozzie without the latter having to do much more than show up, well, I all but got up and cheered.

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8. "RE: Fly Girls art designs"
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>Yes, I too dream of the day someone cooks up a doujinshi
>of them kicking Jerry in the fork together, possibly with what is
>known down our way as "a right good seeing-to up against the cooker"
>afterwards. I wear my kinks on my sleeve.

Dōjinshi, hell, you ask four out of five Mozzie fans, they'll tell you the only reason that last part didn't happen in volume 37 of the manga was because there wasn't a page 181. :)

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7. "RE: Fly Girls art designs"
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>It's funny, but I actually would switch around Hurry and Spitfire's
>descriptions, with the former as the tomboy always covered with a few
>smidges of dirt or grime while the latter is the proper lady of good
>breeding.

Hmm... could be. The descriptions for Hurry and Spitfire above came from a longer writeup that also expanded includes personality notes, which I'm working on as another expansion to the general notes post (along with the episode guide and whatnot). It's not finished yet, and I decided to just pull the physical descriptions out and post them in the interest of timeliness. Most of the later ones only have the physical descriptions as yet; I've only finished the first drafts of the full capsules for Hurry, Spitfire, and Me 109:

Hurricane
Full name: Hurricane "Hurry" Hawker
Birthdate: November 6, 1935
Class: Senior

Most of the time, Hurricane is the very model of a British prep-school head girl - proper, reserved, level-headed. As the "old lady" of the Britannia fighters, she seeks to set a good example for the underclassmen and uphold the school's ideals, presenting a ladylike and composed exterior at all times. She's no shrinking violet, though, and anyone who has exceeded her patience has learned in short order what a mistake that is. No Merlin-engined aircraft is ever going to be as prim on the inside as Hurry looks on the outside, and in the heat of combat that beautifully modulated singing voice becomes a sort of primal howl, signaling to all who hear it that Hurricane is on the hunt. (Because of this, Me 109 calls her Werwolf.)

Hurry's "fly girl" form is a tall and athletic young woman with long, slightly curly brown hair, brown eyes, and a general air of calm, contained maturity: usually smiling, but never very broadly. (Conversely, on the rare occasions when she gets really angry, it shows much more obviously than in most of the others; her face goes crimson, the pupils of her eyes almost disappear, the sinews of her neck and forearms show, her fingers become claws, and her teeth take on a striking resemblance to a bear trap.) She's the most grown-up-looking of the main characters, and could easily pass for an adult, particularly once the tournament is fully under way and Britannia switches from school to service uniforms.

Spitfire
Full name: Spitfire Type-300 Supermarine
Birthdate: March 5, 1936
Class: Junior

Spitfire (do not attempt to shorten that for nickname purposes; it will not end well for you) is only a few months younger than Hurry, but she ran into some problems in junior high and ended up a year behind her by the time they got to high school. Far from being sensitive about that, though, she considers it a mark of accomplishment that she overcame her problems and became the glamorous top student that she is today. Because of their close resemblance and very similar voices, people often assume the two are sisters. Spitfire (as her name suggests) is somewhat rowdier than Hurry, with less-than-perfect attendance and conduct records and a tendency to be a bit overconfident, but she works hard, is an excellent athlete, and has a naturally winning personality that smooths over most of her rough spots.

In contrast to Hurry, Spitfire is a bit of a tomboy, and prefers her PE clothes to her proper uniform. She keeps her light brown hair short and unfussy and can't see the point of makeup (in part, annoyingly for her classmates, because she doesn't require the embellishment). She usually has a look of slight mischief about her and a glint in her blue eyes, as if she's either up to something or trying to think of something to be up to. She has a surprisingly delicate build for such a dedicated athlete, though, and (somewhat to some people's surprise) is capable of great refinement when the situation calls for it. She can wear a dress, sit with her knees together, and hold a teacup properly, and when called upon to do so, she will. It's just not her default state.

Gymnasium Germania

Me 109
Full name: Dora Bf 109 Messerschmitt
Birthdate: May 29, 1935
Class: Senior

Me 109 was born Bf 109, and it's still officially her name, but she started going by "Me" instead in 1938, when the great German aircraft designer W.E. "Willy" Messerschmitt married into the old Bayerische Flugzeugwerke family and adopted her. (It may explain a few things about the Messerschmitt-BF family dynamic that he's her actual father anyway.) She's older than Hurry and has the most experience of any of the main characters, since she started competing internationally in middle school. On the downside, that also means she has the most old injuries to contend with, and the fatigue of those extra seasons of play is always with her, just below the surface. Out of battle, she's very quiet and reserved, preferring to keep to herself. In the entire course of the series, only three characters ever call her by her virtually-unknown first name, "Dora" - her father, her sister 110, and (once) Hurricane.

Everyone expects Me 109 to be blonde, but her hair is actually dark brown (she's Bavarian, so that's not unusual). She does have blue eyes, though they are a very dark blue. She keeps her hair cut short, never wears makeup, and even her clothes that aren't her uniform look like uniforms. She's smaller than most people expect on first meeting, but holds herself very erect, though close inspection will reveal that she walks with a slight limp thanks to an injury she suffered when she was playing in Spain. She also has the only visible battle scars of any of the main cast: one on her left cheek (which resembles, but isn't, a Heidelberg dueling scar) and a number on her back and legs (revealed only rarely, as for example in the episode where the Germania girls all go to Prora for some R&R).

What informed my designs for the two English stars was mainly their relative ages and times in service, as you see above. Spitfire had some teething troubles and wasn't a great performer in her younger days (though many claimed later that they had seen her potential at the time).

That said, I can see where you're coming from, in that the Hurricane is a somewhat less visually elegant aircraft (particularly compared to the "mature" form of the Spitfire). I suppose it's possible that by the time we meet her on screen, Spitfire has left her misspent youth behind to the extent of becoming the model-student type, and that Hurry's always been a little rougher around the edges than my first draft made her out to be. (She is from Brooklands, after all, the spiritual home of the supercharged Bentley. :)

>I like P-51's description, though I'd add that she's embarrassed by
>her past, as she was quite the tomboy in her youth and even went by
>the nickname "Apache" for awhile before puberty hit.

Actually, that's a common mistake - Apache is her twin sister, A-36 (who looks even more like P-40, and they both serve in China-Burma-India together). A-36 decided to go out for the ground attack team after junior high instead of becoming a fighter, but it's amazing how many people outside the school still think they're the same aircraft. 51 just laughs it off - happens all the time - but she is a bit sensitive about people seeing photos of them together back when their parents still dressed them alike. (And that hairdo, what were we thinking? But 36 never changed it... )

>While she's brash, cheerful, and sometimes foul-mouthed,
>there's an obvious wariness to her voice, as if she'll be glad when
>the whole conference is over so she can go home to a much-deserved
>rest.

From context, I'm guessing you mean "weariness" there. And I dunno, I mean, she did go into business for herself after the tournament. I think maybe she was just tired of being in the Army, not necessarily playing the game.

>Much of the description for Hurry could be applied to 47 and then
>some. She is everything that comes to mind when one thinks of the
>classic girl off the farm: Fair-haired, buxom, stout, tanned, and more
>comfortable in jeans and a man's work shirt than she is in a girly
>uniform.

Big shoulders, too. And 38 once joked that she had "man hands", but 47's only response to that was to challenge her to palm a basketball. (She couldn't.)

>If P-51 is the refined beauty of Columbia High and P-47 the classic
>farm girl, then P-38 is the poster girl that guys love. Glossy blond
>hair, ample chested, and long legged, 38 is the kinda girl who loves
>the attention she gets. But like an Hollywood beauty, she's not
>without her flaws, being prone to getting hot under the collar and
>cutting people down without thinking about it.

My mental image of 38 rather resembles Kongō from Arpeggio of Blue Steel, but with a somewhat less preposterous hairstyle (though, in keeping with the original dream fragment, she does have the "twin tails" thing going on, because, well, she would, wouldn't she), and she dresses differently, obviously. Same body type, though. Quite long fingers, very elegant carriage. Does that same "slouch lissomely in chairs with legs crossed at the knee" thing.

>And she literally gets
>hot under the collar, as many are the time that she can be found
>sitting at her desk with her shirt partly unbuttoned and fanning
>herself as she complains about the heat.

INT. DAY Class 4-02's homeroom. It's a sunny summer day. Cicadas can be heard outside the open windows. The ceiling fan turns slowly. The students are slumped at their seats, waiting for the teacher to arrive. P-38, by the window, fans herself with her notebook and plucks ineffectively at the front of her shirt.

P-38
(miserably)
Oh, it's so hot in here.

P-51
We've been over this, 38. It is warm in here, but we all know the real problem is your turbos.

P-47
Seriously, why don't you go back to regular superchargers if they're such a hassle?

P-40
Ha, because then her service ceiling would be about 20 feet -

P-38 gets up, crosses the room, and punches P-40 on top of the head.

P-40
Ow!

P-38 returns to her seat. After a few moments, she starts fanning herself again.

P-38
(miserably)
Oh, it's so hot in here.

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9. "RE: Fly Girls art designs"
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   >What informed my designs for the two English stars was mainly their
>relative ages and times in service, as you see above. Spitfire had
>some teething troubles and wasn't a great performer in her younger
>days (though many claimed later that they had seen her potential at
>the time).
>
>That said, I can see where you're coming from, in that the Hurricane
>is a somewhat less visually elegant aircraft (particularly compared to
>the "mature" form of the Spitfire). I suppose it's possible that by
>the time we meet her on screen, Spitfire has left her misspent youth
>behind to the extent of becoming the model-student type, and that
>Hurry's always been a little rougher around the edges than my first
>draft made her out to be. (She is from Brooklands, after all, the
>spiritual home of the supercharged Bentley. :)

I think what informed my view of the two is how, though Hurricane was the elder of the two, she's always served the understudy role in history. 70+ years later, when people think "Battle of Britain," they automatically think Spitfire. Yet the air war was carried mostly on Hurricane's back, as there simply were more of her in service and they were that much easier to keep flying on account of their fabric skin. It seems history remembers Spitfire more because of her beauty, her grace, and the amount of attention focused on her by the Air Ministry after the war had turned in Britain's favor, such that attention could be turned from building enough planes to filling more roles.

Another joke you might consider is that, for all her grace in the air, Spitfire is a poor carrier-borne fighter, as her long legs make for some rather messy landings on a pitching deck. More than once she's tried making a landing on a "brisk" North Atlantic day and ended up sprawled on the deck, sporting a few new bruises while assuring onlookers that she's okay.

>Actually, that's a common mistake - Apache is her twin sister, A-36
>(who looks even more like P-40, and they both serve in
>China-Burma-India together). A-36 decided to go out for the ground
>attack team after junior high instead of becoming a fighter, but it's
>amazing how many people outside the school still think they're the
>same aircraft. 51 just laughs it off - happens all the time - but she
>is a bit sensitive about people seeing photos of them together
>back when their parents still dressed them alike. (And that
>hairdo, what were we thinking? But 36 never changed
>it... )

I understand 36 was also quite the shutterbug, known for catching photos on the run. And she's got the same mouth as 40, which serves as a shock when people who have mistaken her for 51 and expected a well-spoken beauty instead get chewed out in rather harsh words.

>From context, I'm guessing you mean "weariness" there. And I dunno, I
>mean, she did go into business for herself after the tournament. I
>think maybe she was just tired of being in the Army, not
>necessarily playing the game.

Indeed, in the midst of writing the post, I accidentally hit the "post" button before I had a chance to proof-read. Apparently that's one of the bits I missed in my rush to do an edit.

>Big shoulders, too. And 38 once joked that she had "man hands", but
>47's only response to that was to challenge her to palm a basketball.
>(She couldn't.)

For whatever reason, when I started trying to write 47's description, I had to think up something a little more inventive than "See Kanna from Sakura Wars," but there it is.

>My mental image of 38 rather resembles Kongō from Arpeggio of Blue
>Steel
, but with a somewhat less preposterous hairstyle (though, in
>keeping with the original dream fragment, she does have the "twin
>tails" thing going on, because, well, she would, wouldn't she), and
>she dresses differently, obviously. Same body type, though. Quite
>long fingers, very elegant carriage. Does that same "slouch lissomely
>in chairs with legs crossed at the knee" thing.

I could definitely see that, especially the "if looks could kill" look when she truly wants to make her displeasure known. That said, 38 definitely has a much livelier personality. Between my mental image of 47 and your joke between her and 38, I find myself thinking of Sumire. That same haughtiness and sharp tongue, the banter between her and 47, and her treatment of 40 as a "country bumpkin." And the constant complaining, whether it's about how cold and wet it is in Europe, to how hot and humid it is in Asia.

>INT. DAY Class 4-02's homeroom. It's a sunny summer day. Cicadas
>can be heard outside the open windows. The ceiling fan turns slowly.
>The students are slumped at their seats, waiting for the teacher to
>arrive. P-38, by the window, fans herself with her notebook and
>plucks ineffectively at the front of her shirt.
>
>P-38
>(miserably)
>Oh, it's so hot in here.
>
>P-51
>We've been over this, 38. It is warm in here, but we all know
>the real problem is your turbos.
>
>P-47
>Seriously, why don't you go back to regular superchargers if they're
>such a hassle?
>
>P-40
>Ha, because then her service ceiling would be about 20 feet -
>
>P-38 gets up, crosses the room, and punches P-40 on top of the head.
>
>P-40
>Ow!
>
>P-38 returns to her seat. After a few moments, she starts fanning
>herself again.
>
>P-38
>(miserably)
>Oh, it's so hot in here.

(Not seen: 51 facepalming as 47 has to physically lift 40 by her arms to keep her from shooting 38.)

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10. "RE: Fly Girls art designs"
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   LAST EDITED ON Sep-11-14 AT 09:36 PM (EDT)
 
>>That said, I can see where you're coming from, in that the Hurricane
>>is a somewhat less visually elegant aircraft (particularly compared to
>>the "mature" form of the Spitfire).
>
>I think what informed my view of the two is how, though Hurricane was
>the elder of the two, she's always served the understudy role in
>history. 70+ years later, when people think "Battle of Britain," they
>automatically think Spitfire.

Hmm, true.

>Another joke you might consider is that, for all her grace in the air,
>Spitfire is a poor carrier-borne fighter, as her long legs make for
>some rather messy landings on a pitching deck. More than once she's
>tried making a landing on a "brisk" North Atlantic day and ended up
>sprawled on the deck, sporting a few new bruises while assuring
>onlookers that she's okay.

By an odd coincidence, "I meant to do that!" is also Stuka's motto.

>>Big shoulders, too. And 38 once joked that she had "man hands", but
>>47's only response to that was to challenge her to palm a basketball.
>>(She couldn't.)
>
>For whatever reason, when I started trying to write 47's description,
>I had to think up something a little more inventive than "See Kanna
>from Sakura Wars," but there it is.

Heh, I had the same problem, though I think 47's coloration is different. For some reason I picture all the Republic products as black Irish.

>I could definitely see that, especially the "if looks could kill" look
>when she truly wants to make her displeasure known. That said, 38
>definitely has a much livelier personality.

Yes. Also less confused!

>Between my mental image
>of 47 and your joke between her and 38, I find myself thinking of
>Sumire. That same haughtiness and sharp tongue, the banter between
>her and 47, and her treatment of 40 as a "country bumpkin."

Now I'm imagining the scene from... I think it was the Sakura Wars TV series... where Sumire is trying to cook hard-boiled eggs by cracking raw eggs into boiling water instead of boiling them in the shell, evidently under the impression that they form that semi-spherical shape spontaneously when boiled. (Every hard-boiled egg she'd ever had to that point must have been peeled for her without her knowledge, which is... frankly not hard to believe.)

KANNA
Uh... what're you doing?

SUMIRE
What does it look like I'm doing? I'm cooking eggs. ... They don't seem to be getting round, though.

KANNA
Ha! What were you, raised by wolves?

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11. "RE: Fly Girls art designs"
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   >Hmm, true.

While Spitfire gets all the attention, Hurry makes sure she stays down to earth, not allowing the fame to go to her head. And in return, Spitfire is always there to watch over Hurry when the going gets tough. They're sisters in all but name, such that you can't think of one without the other being far behind.

>By an odd coincidence, "I meant to do that!" is also Stuka's
>motto.

As opposed to her battle cry, "LOOK OUT BELOW!"

>Heh, I had the same problem, though I think 47's coloration is
>different. For some reason I picture all the Republic products as
>black Irish.

Think what influenced my image of P-47 is that she's a light bomber masquerading as a fighter. While North American exploited aerodynamics and Lockheed doubled the engines, Republic looked at the need for speed and went the Clarkson route: "POWERRRR!" So while 51 could be Spitfire's American cousin and 38 a long-legged sprinter, 47 is most definitely a brawny prize-fighter. You could picture her and 40 sitting in a bar, each with a beer in hand, recounting "You should see the other guy!" stories.

>Yes. Also less confused!

Except during test time, when all those hours of slacking off due to the heat come back to haunt her.

>Now I'm imagining the scene from... I think it was the Sakura
>Wars
TV series... where Sumire is trying to cook hard-boiled eggs
>by cracking raw eggs into boiling water instead of boiling them in the
>shell, evidently under the impression that they form that
>semi-spherical shape spontaneously when boiled. (Every hard-boiled
>egg she'd ever had to that point must have been peeled for her without
>her knowledge, which is... frankly not hard to believe.)
>
>KANNA
>Uh... what're you doing?
>
>SUMIRE
>What does it look like I'm doing? I'm cooking eggs. ... They don't
>seem to be getting round, though.
>
>KANNA
>Ha! What were you, raised by wolves?

Yeah, definitely the dynamic I could see between the two.

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19. "RE: Fly Girls art designs"
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   >>By an odd coincidence, "I meant to do that!" is also Stuka's
>>motto.
>
>As opposed to her battle cry, "LOOK OUT BELOW!"

Speaking of Stuka... I'd envisage her as all arms and legs and never quite grew into them. Blonde, tied back in a thick braid occasionally used by the other Germania girls to tow her around. Her arms pinwheel wildly as she's in mid-tripping (which happens constantly), making her even more of a hazard to be around. Germania always informally assigns an underclassman to follow her around and pick up ("No, don't try to catch her arm she'll just drag you down too. Wait until she hits the deck and THEN give her a hand up again.")

I think she was popular in the earlier seasons when she was... effective but being reduced to comic relief who was only kept on the Germania team because they needed her to make up the numbers did her no favours in the popularity stakes.


Lancaster is more of the english country girl, curly hair always fetched back with a scarf or hairband - completely happy to wade around in even the worst weather with wellies on her feet and a heavy coat. Or turning a hockey field into mud. Sturdily built, with sensible shoes, sensible skirt and unshakeable good cheer.

(In the cockpit she's blithely convinced she can do anything a fighter can do including hair-raisingly low passes. Takes "You'll never be able to do that" as a challenge.)

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24. "RE: Fly Girls art designs"
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   >>>By an odd coincidence, "I meant to do that!" is also Stuka's
>>>motto.
>>
>>As opposed to her battle cry, "LOOK OUT BELOW!"

She does say that a lot, but technically, I think Stuka's battle cry is a bookend with Me 163's. 163's is "Here I goooooo!", and Stuka is never able to stop herself from announcing in the dive, "Here I coooooome!" ("Hier komme iiiiiich!")

>Speaking of Stuka... I'd envisage her as all arms and legs and never
>quite grew into them. Blonde, tied back in a thick braid occasionally
>used by the other Germania girls to tow her around. Her arms pinwheel
>wildly as she's in mid-tripping (which happens constantly), making her
>even more of a hazard to be around.

This running gag sort of reached its logical conclusion in "Vice-Headmaster Göring's Long Thursday", when one of the many calamities Göring had to expend his ever-dwindling supply of cope on was the discovery, just slightly too late, that Professor Stumpff had put Stuka and Komet in the same homeroom for their senior year.

>Lancaster is more of the english country girl, curly hair always
>fetched back with a scarf or hairband - completely happy to wade
>around in even the worst weather with wellies on her feet and a heavy
>coat. Or turning a hockey field into mud. Sturdily built, with
>sensible shoes, sensible skirt and unshakeable good cheer.

Often found in the company of her childhood friend Stirling Short, also known as "the Gardener", a great cheerful lummocking oaf of a girl from Northern Ireland. Stirling, like Hurry, laid a lot of the groundwork for her younger, much more famous colleague's success, but isn't bothered about it at all, because now that Lanc is on the cover of all the magazines, she can get on with doing what she really loves. Which is mining the harbors outside U-boat bases. Happy trails, ye bastards. (beaming grin)

(Stirling's elder sister Sunderland also likes beating up submarines, which is understandable, seeing as Sundy's half-boat herself.)

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26. "RE: Fly Girls art designs"
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   >>Lancaster is more of the english country girl, curly hair always
>>fetched back with a scarf or hairband - completely happy to wade
>>around in even the worst weather with wellies on her feet and a heavy
>>coat. Or turning a hockey field into mud. Sturdily built, with
>>sensible shoes, sensible skirt and unshakeable good cheer.

Unfortunately, while Lancaster is known as the poster girl for Bomber Command and the one all the Britannian coaches talk about, some still mention her elder sister Manchester. Poor girl, so full of hope, let down by a sickly heart. She'd get the worst attacks, sometimes even falling from the skies without warning. She got shuffled off the team after her little sister made the scene, but you can still occasionally find her fulfilling a "Team Mom" position, a warm cup of tea at the ready for her weary sister and her friends.

Oddly enough, she later found a friend in He-177 ("Greif"), whose own heart issues caused her no small amount of grief despite Vice-Headmaster Göring's insistence she soldier on. The two can, in between Britannia/Germania matches, be found drinking tea and chatting happily. For a time, they were joined by B-29, who experienced her own problems before eventually becoming strong enough to fight without too much issue.

>(Stirling's elder sister Sunderland also likes beating up submarines,
>which is understandable, seeing as Sundy's half-boat herself.)

Borrowing a concept from Kantai Collection, I find myself imaging the various flying boats and float-plane fighters as wearing abbreviated naval uniforms of their team over a swim suit, if not just dispensing with the uniform entirely. It certainly makes for an amusing image in cases like Zero and Rufe, the two seemingly identical aside from the latter looking like she's on her way to the pool.

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21. "RE: Fly Girls art designs"
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   >While Spitfire gets all the attention, Hurry makes sure she stays down
>to earth, not allowing the fame to go to her head. And in return,
>Spitfire is always there to watch over Hurry when the going gets
>tough. They're sisters in all but name, such that you can't think of
>one without the other being far behind.

Also, the dynamic where fans ALWAYS go to Spitfire for the autographs, no matter how hard she tried to give Hurry the credit she deserves; and the immense frustration this caused her.

-VR
My wife and her best friend have something of this going on for costuming. Her best friend is small and cute and could be wearing a burlap sack while my wife has a 200 hour costume on (and she and it look amazing)...and they'll almost always go to the best friend and say how wonderful she is and hand her a hall costume award.. The best friend tries to deflect this (at least once it was "This isn't a costume!"), but it usually doesn't help. The weird part is it's not guys who do this but other women (whom I believe to be straight).
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12. "RE: Fly Girls art designs"
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   Anybody have any thoughts on the Rodina-Mat girls? I'd like to try and get at least one piece for every school in the conference. (Plus Mozzie, 'cos damn. :)

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13. "RE: Fly Girls art designs"
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   >Anybody have any thoughts on the Rodina-Mat girls? I'd like to try and
>get at least one piece for every school in the conference. (Plus
>Mozzie, 'cos damn. :)

Hmm...

Yak-9

When the average Westerner pictured a Russian airplane or a Russian woman in 1940, the first word that sprang to mind was probably "tractor". Yak-9 is... not like that. She's not glamorous - almost aggressively not so, with her black hair chopped short and slicked back, her ill-tailored Soviet Air Force uniform, and her complete lack of cosmetics - but she's got those great Slavic cheekbones and big grey eyes so intense they look like they could see through three feet of lead. She's also extremely sophisticated, with a taste for classical music and opera - but very guarded about it, as a child of the now-all-but-extinct Muscovite intelligentsia. Too many of her father's friends have gone to the gulag for no reason other than being more cultured than Stalin. Out of the cockpit, she carries a Nagant revolver and a certain readiness to use it on the nearest Hitlerite bandit. About the only people she hates more than them are the craven opportunists of the NKVD.

Il-2

Ilyusha looks as tough as she is, and she's tough enough to survive on the Eastern Front in a job that involves constant exposure to some of the world's heaviest and most accurate ground fire, so what does that tell you? Ilyusha is hard, in every sense of the word. There's no decorative padding on her anywhere, physically or psychologically - she seems to be made of little more than tanned skin stretched taut over 150 pounds or so of bone and muscle and quiet determination. She keeps her dark brown hair back in a French braid and takes the sleeves off her flightsuits because they just get in the way. She always dresses exactly the same way, come rain, shine, sleet, or general inspection. She is completely indifferent to heat, cold, pain, danger, and rank. "If you haven't destroyed a tank today, Comrade General, then I fail to see what you and I could possibly have to talk about." She does have a lighter side, but her aerial colleagues rarely see it, as she generally only unwinds in the company of the infantrymen and tankers whom she supports from the air. And their vodka. Those guys practically worship her, so she's never got an empty glass when she's hanging with them.

P-39

More Russian than the Russians, Kobrastochka looks so at home in her uniform it almost seems improbable. She's like the one person in the Soviet Air Force whose uniform fits properly. It's just fate. Even though she doesn't look particularly Slavic - she's distantly related to P-40 and there's a bit of a resemblance, and her red hair and unusual height both stand out like flags in your average crowd of Soviet citizens - she inhabits the role so well that people don't really think about it. She always wears a pair of aviator goggles, but rarely actually puts them on properly; they're almost always up on her forehead. Oddly for an aviator, she carries a Mosin-Nagant Model 1938 carbine. Some people used to joke it was so she'd have something to fight with when she got shot down and joined the infantry, until she demonstrated what a crack shot she is with it a few times and those people got tired of scrounging up replacement hats.

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18. "RE: Fly Girls art designs"
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   LAST EDITED ON Sep-12-14 AT 03:42 AM (EDT)
 
Dammit, Ben. You beat me to Ilyusha, who is my girl.

That said, you actually get pretty damn close to what I envisioned. Except for the hair. When I think of Ilyusha, I think of her most famous pilot, Anna Alexandrovna Yegorova (Анна Александровна Тимофеева-Егорова), who was a genuine goddamn badass and only passed on five years ago.

Look at that picture. Look at her face and tell me that's not Ilyusha's face. :)

I also envision Ilyusha as being one of the two or three Fly Girls who is visibly armed when not actually up in the air. Not with a sidearm, either.

No, Ilyusha carries her Volkov-Yartsev VYa-23 autocannon around with her. She hasn't, like, named it or anything. That would just be weird. But it's always there, slung across her back or propped against a wall.

You never know when you'll need to do a tank. They're wily, those tankers. Can't trust'em.

> Ilyusha is hard, in every sense of the word.
>There's no decorative padding on her anywhere, physically or
>psychologically -

That actually changed a bit as the series went on; Ilyusha was the darling of the Chairman of Rodina-Mat, and he constantly showered her with awards and accolades. As a good communist and good aviator, Ilyusha would, grudgingly, wear her ever-growing collection of medals in order to set a good example and inspire the other girls. She really could give a damn about any of them, though...

Except for one. Her Hero of the Soviet Union medal. (Twice Hero, actually, by the end of the series, and Three Times Hero in the manga.)

I'm sure most people recall episode 315, "Comrade 109." Ilyusha had been on the show before, of course; her first episode was "Red Beard of Treachery." But 315 was her first spotlight episode, and it was a doozy. Ilyusha gets shot down behind German lines while on recon; a common, even cliche plotline by this point. (I think it happened to Zero at least three times and 109 more than once.) In fact, it is 109 who lands near the impact site and starts nosing around.

Normally, what would happen after that is between ten and fifteen minutes of banter and/or drama, with a daring escape at the end. That is not the case with Ilyusha. Ilyusha walks right up to 109, kicks the shit out of her, and forces 109 to fly her back to the Russian lines since Ilyusha can't get into the air under her own power anymore. They both nearly get blown up by Yak-9 a few times in the process, and everybody is very confused when an unhappy 109 taxis up to the hangar at Rodina-Mat with Ilyusha on her back.

Wonderful episode.

Anyway, Ilyusha got the Hero of the Soviet Union for that, and it was really the only decoration she ever cared at all about, because she was damn proud of what she did that day.

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23. "RE: Fly Girls art designs"
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   >Look at that picture. Look at her face and tell me that's not
>Ilyusha's face. :)

She reminds me a bit of Lin Beifong. There's not a great physical resemblance, but they both have that "I am stern as fuck and it makes me seem older than I probably am" thing happening.

>No, Ilyusha carries her Volkov-Yartsev VYa-23 autocannon around with
>her. She hasn't, like, named it or anything. That would just be
>weird. But it's always there, slung across her back or propped against
>a wall.

ILYUSHA
I am heavy weapons aeroplane. And this... is my weapon. He weighs 68 kilograms and fires 23-by-152-millimeter, 200-gram, high explosive incendiary cartridges at a rate of 600 rounds per minute. It costs the workers and peasants of the Soviet Union 450,000 roubles to fire this weapon for ten seconds.

>That actually changed a bit as the series went on; Ilyusha was the
>darling of the Chairman of Rodina-Mat

Indeed, to an extent that became rather creepy toward the end there. I'm sure everyone remembers his infamous love letter to her in "Notes from Home". "Our school now needs you like the air it breathes, like the bread it eats." Brrrr. Even Ilyusha herself was a little freaked out by that. (Naturally fanart abounds of the epic blush-and-sweatdrop that passage induced.)

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14. "RE: Fly Girls art designs"
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   LAST EDITED ON Sep-11-14 AT 11:31 PM (EDT)
 
Since my muse will not release her iron grip til I get some more of these ideas down, I shall continue...

Wildcat

The original star of the Columbia High Pacific Conference team, Wildcat is also noticeably the shortest of the girls playing for Columbia. Fittingly, she's also the oldest of the team, over a year older than P-40. But under her uniform is a wiry build, allowing her to punch above her weight and hold her own even against the infamously slippery Zero. Like the cat for which she's named, she sports tan hair cut in a simple pageboy style to fit under her flying cap, a pug nose, and sea blue eyes. It's not usual to find her sporting a bandaid or a new bruise, as while she's at home on a carrier deck, her short legs tend to make landings interesting. Wildcat continues to soldier on long into the Conference, serving on the smaller carriers while the starring role goes to...

Hellcat

The undisputed queen of the flattops, Hellcat is everything her older sister Wildcat was and more. While both share the same sturdy build, Hellcat is taller and her figure more filled out. She still has the same pug nose and blue eyes, but her own tan hair is lighter and longer, usually kept in a ponytail except when she flies, when it's rolled into a bun under her cap. Where Wildcat held her own against Zero, Hellcat routinely mops the floor with her, causing no small amount of grief for the little samurai. By the end of the Pacific Conference, Hellcat has gotten her feet dirty, routinely joining her cousin Corsair in bombing missions on island targets.

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15. "RE: Fly Girls art designs"
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   Nice, and you sparked my own design for Corsair while you were about it (see top post edits). :)

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17. "RE: Fly Girls art designs"
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   LAST EDITED ON Sep-12-14 AT 01:57 AM (EDT)
 
>Nice, and you sparked my own design for Corsair while you were about
>it (see top post edits). :)

Heh, I was having a hard time thinking of how Corsair would look. Part of me was considering the swash-buckling look, but decided that was a bit silly. On the other hand, she does eventually find her sea legs, it's just a pity that it happens so close to the end of the Pacific Conference that she still takes second place to Hellcat.

One more before I head to bed:

Hien

This is a girl with a serious identity crisis, an oddball even by Japanese standards. She looks somewhat like her elder sibling Hayabusa, but with a shorter stature, shoulder-length glossy hair, and darker skin. And whereas Hayabusa has her features set in what seems to be a perpetual scowl, Hien has an open and friendly face, jabbering away in a German accent when she's not stuffing her mouth with fresh pasta. This has the amusing habit of leaving stains on her scarf, a necessity for the high altitudes she loves to fly at. Unfortunately, while she can beat P-40 in a match and even proves a bother for Coach LeMay's star B-29 (who Hien has affectionately dubbed "B-san"), Hien is also a bit of a sickly girl, frequently consigned to bed rest.

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16. "RE: Fly Girls art designs"
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   I am properly pleased with the brief I just added for Lysander - a name that turns up again and again in any account of British-sponsored espionage and/or sabotage in occupied Western Europe.

(Recommended reading: Leo Marks's Between Silk and Cyanide, Ben Macintyre's Operation Mincemeat and Double Cross. Particularly the first. Stonking good book.)

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38. "RE: Fly Girls art designs"
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   Lysander reminds me a lot of her distant German cousin, Fi-156. Another unarmed combatant, she's blonde, and vaguely female, but doesn't have the same panache as her more glamorous teammates. She came late into a growth spurt, and her sleeves and pants are *always* too short; the other girls have taken to calling her "Stork".

Ah, but you get her in the air, now; short field take-offs and landings are never a problem, and, alone among the girls, give her a 20-knot headwind and she can actually *hover*. She can go anywhere and see *anything* that needs to be seen, and no one will ever know she's been there.


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42. "RE: Fly Girls art designs"
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   >Lysander reminds me a lot of her distant German cousin, Fi-156.
>Another unarmed combatant, she's blonde, and vaguely female, but
>doesn't have the same panache as her more glamorous teammates. She
>came late into a growth spurt, and her sleeves and pants are *always*
>too short; the other girls have taken to calling her "Stork".

Despite her gawkiness (which is usually played for laughs, naturally), Fi's got a certain something goin' on, though. Partly I think it's because she's just fearless, like Lysa and that other great unarmed-but-up-for-it British Fly Girl, Tiger Moth, and completely unself-conscious about her unglamorous tendencies.

And interestingly, she's one of the few members of the Fly Girls cast who has an explicitly defined, unambiguous love life! In the manga, at least. She's got some kind of a thing going on with Professor Rommel, the Tank Club's faculty advisor. That's made extremely plain in the Afrika Korps story arc (Das Afrikalied, volumes 17 and 18). Oddly, no one within the story seems to think that's in any way inappropriate, though plenty of readers did.

(Exactly what the deal was with the ground forces seen throughout the series was always really heavily elided by the writers, both in the manga and on TV, for obviously logistical reasons. There's still an active subset of the fandom who are convinced that the armored vehicles work the same way, and that any moment now TV Tomodachi is going to announce Armor Girls, but on the other hand there are all those Russian tankers Ilyusha hangs around with in her off-hours, who are clearly neither girls nor metaphorical avatars of their tanks. And are they soldiers or students? Is what they're doing part of the tournament, or is there an actual war happening at the same time? It's all very much in the "don't look directly at this or you'll get a headache" mold.)

>Ah, but you get her in the air, now; short field take-offs and
>landings are never a problem, and, alone among the girls, give her a
>20-knot headwind and she can actually *hover*. She can go anywhere and
>see *anything* that needs to be seen, and no one will ever know she's
>been there.

I saw a replica Störch in action at a WWII-themed airshow once, many years ago. It was mighty impressive; there was enough of a wind that day that the pilot was able to demonstrate the almost-a-hover. Sadly, it's the kind of stunt you have to know a little about aeronautics to be impressed by, and most of the crowd that day evidently didn't.

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43. "RE: Fly Girls art designs"
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   >And interestingly, she's one of the few members of the Fly
>Girls
cast who has an explicitly defined, unambiguous love life!
>In the manga, at least. She's got some kind of a thing going on with
>Professor Rommel, the Tank Club's faculty advisor. That's made
>extremely plain in the Afrika Korps story arc (Das Afrikalied,
>volumes 17 and 18). Oddly, no one within the story seems to think
>that's in any way inappropriate, though plenty of readers did.

Hmm, I was sure I'd come across a single panel blink-and-you'll-miss-it mention of the Professor's brother being a bit grumpy about the situation for some obscure reason. All his grumbling was in a kind of weird German dialect, though, so I'm not sure what he actually said.

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44. "RE: Fly Girls art designs"
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   >Hmm, I was sure I'd come across a single panel
>blink-and-you'll-miss-it mention of the Professor's brother being a
>bit grumpy about the situation for some obscure reason. All his
>grumbling was in a kind of weird German dialect, though, so I'm not
>sure what he actually said.

Pretty sure he's expressing disappointment because he's just realized she's not a boy.

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20. "RE: Fly Girls art designs"
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   LAST EDITED ON Sep-12-14 AT 04:18 AM (EDT)
 
>Lysander
>
>Despite her name, Lysander is very much a girl,

You know, I was always glad the creative teams stuck to their guns on this.

When the series blew up big (Fly Girls really should have been a niche genre title, one to three seasons max; TV Tomodachi's marketing is still baffled) and started getting a lot of cross-demo attention, there was more than a bit of fan agitation and network pressure for some Fly Boys as well. Gotta make those demographic trendlines look good, you know?

The writers were adamant: no, never. This was girls entertainment. They were, of course, absolutely thrilled that so many people of so many genders (and species; Fly Girls was big in Salusia in syndication and the Romulan dub is a thing of beauty) could enjoy it, but it was primarily being written by women and for women. There would be no male fliers, thank you.

Fans being what they are, there were a lot of OCs created as Fly Boys. Prior to Jet Age coming out it was common for people into that sort of thing to make various jets into males. Choppers to; that was a thing.

Fans also being what they are, there was a lot of fairly ugly misogyny involved. Bad things happened to Zero, you guys. A lot. I'll leave it at that. You know where to find the materiel if you really want it.

There was one thing slipped in, though. To this day the reasons for it remain unknown, although the most commonly accepted theory is that it was an attempt to steer fandom to more productive endeavors.

One of the tactical instructors-slash-briefing officers at Brittania Academy was a Colonel who was a very stereotypically older British gent. Proper accent you could cut glass with, pip pip cheerio, stiff upper lip, all that stuff. He didn't have a name, or get a lot of lines; the ground crew and faculty tended not to if they weren't important. But he showed up in a lot of episodes, and increasingly in ways that usually involved him imparting some nugget of wisdom or making some dry British witticism.

In season four, Hurry and P-51 are having an involved conversation involving a lot of bad puns, and they walk by his office... and there's a quick, blink-and-you'll-miss shot of his nameplate.

CAMEL, S. (Colonel)

Had to've been deliberate.

Since then, anyone who is really dead-set on doing Fly Boys stuff in a productive, non-shitty way has gone all the way back to the Great War and worked with the biplanes. There've been some decent doujins done in that genre. The creative teams behind the series have stated more than once they find World War I dull where they don't find it incredibly depressing, which lends credence to the theory.

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22. "RE: Fly Girls art designs"
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   Ah yes, Colonel Camel. I still think his introductory description is the classic line from series 1, but a lot of his best moments remind me of Roley Burkin from The Fast Show (Google it). Also, the amount of doujins in which his only line is "Baaaaaaaah" both titillates and depresses me. =]

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25. "RE: Fly Girls art designs"
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   LAST EDITED ON Sep-12-14 AT 03:35 PM (EDT)
 
>The writers were adamant: no, never. This was girls entertainment.

I'm... going to have to admit I'm one of the people who aren't quite sure whether they believe that, but.

>There would be no male fliers, thank you.

Actually, check "Belgian Holiday" and "D-Day" again. The German and Allied gliders in both of those episodes are dudes. I'd suspect that of being a backhanded quip on the writers' part about the pressure they were getting to introduce male characters that, when they did, they were unpowered, expendable aircraft, but "Belgian Holiday" is the seventh episode ever, so I doubt there would have been time. Maybe someone in the writers' room was already anticipating it.

Admittedly, the German gliders in particular are really girly boys, but still, they're definitely boys. :)

>Fans also being what they are, there was a lot of fairly ugly
>misogyny involved. Bad things happened to Zero, you guys. A lot. I'll
>leave it at that. You know where to find the materiel if you
>really want it.

Man, I had purged those memory sectors. (Another bulk dōjinshi purchase gone wrong, you'd think I'd learn.) Now they're back. Unclean. Unclean.

>In season four, Hurry and P-51 are having an involved conversation
>involving a lot of bad puns, and they walk by his office... and
>there's a quick, blink-and-you'll-miss shot of his nameplate.
>
>CAMEL, S. (Colonel)
>
>Had to've been deliberate.

Oh, totally. He's mentioned in Hurry's dossier at the back of one of the early manga volumes - turns out he's her grandfather, although neither of them ever acknowledges it at school. (The animators got that joke slightly wrong, or possibly did it slightly wrong on purpose to obfuscate it a little more - he's actually Colonel Sopwith. Almost all the aircraft on the show have their manufacturer's name as their surname, though they rarely get mentioned. There are a few episodes where we see Spitfire signing autographs, though, and in one of the CBI episodes, 40 has to sign for an ammo shipment and we find out that her name is actually Kittyhawk Curtiss.)

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30. "RE: Fly Girls art designs"
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   >
>In season four, Hurry and P-51 are having an involved conversation
>involving a lot of bad puns, and they walk by his office... and
>there's a quick, blink-and-you'll-miss shot of his nameplate.
>
>CAMEL, S. (Colonel)
>
>Had to've been deliberate.
>

Just hunted down a freeze-frame of that shot.

Now I understand why he had a beagle.

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27. "Status report"
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   The good news, the artist whose style I think worked best with the show concept hadn't filled her commission queue yet. The bad news, she only had three slots open total for the weekend.

So! Right now I have (IIRC) Me-109, Zero and Ilyusha currently being worked on, and if things go right maybe get some more characters done post-con (Hurricane, P-51 and Mozzie made my floor shortlist). Further updates as events warrant.

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28. "RE: Status report"
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   >So! Right now I have (IIRC) Me-109, Zero and Ilyusha currently being
>worked on, and if things go right maybe get some more characters done
>post-con (Hurricane, P-51 and Mozzie made my floor shortlist). Further
>updates as events warrant.

I'm really excited to see the girls in real life!

You know what I mean. =]

>Also, the Stig is here. Why is the Stig here? No idea,
>but if the Stig wants to go to an anime convention in Denver who am I
>to say no?

Some say that he owns a dakimakura of a pile of sofa springs, and that he does not, in fact, believe it...

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29. "RE: Status report"
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>So! Right now I have (IIRC) Me-109, Zero and Ilyusha currently being
>worked on,

Fuck yeah, Ilyusha. That's what I have to say about that.

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31. "RE: Fly Girls art designs"
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   LAST EDITED ON Sep-12-14 AT 09:38 PM (EDT)
 
>Corsair
>
>Corsair looks like a cross between Hellcat and P-47; she has the
>latter's build (and great thunderous voice), but her coloration is
>more like the former's, except her hair is on the other side of the
>nebulous borderline between light brown and dirty blonde. She's a
>Marine and (like most Marines) proud of it, sporting the
>globe-and-anchor tattooed prominently on her right biceps (which is
>usually on show, as she either rolls up her sleeves as high as they'll
>go or just doesn't wear an overshirt) and the buzzcut regulations
>don't actually specify for women. She chain-smokes cigars and might
>be even more foul-mouthed than P-40. In the manga, a running gag is
>for her to occasionally utter speech balloons that are entirely
>blacked out except for words like "and", "of", and "the". Her secret
>shame is that, for all that she totally loves being a Marine now, she
>really only transferred to the Corps in the first place because she
>gets seasick on carriers.

You forgot to add that she's always bragging about how her Pappy is the best flyer alive, even if he is the Black Sheep of the family.

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32. "RE: Fly Girls art designs"
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   >You forgot to add that she's always bragging about how her Pappy is
>the best flyer alive, even if he is the Black Sheep of the family.

"Forgot" isn't really the right word there. :)

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33. "RE: Fly Girls art designs"
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   Realization: P-38's hairstyle is lifted straight off the head of Azusa Nakano.

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34. "RE: Fly Girls art designs"
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   >Realization: P-38's hairstyle is lifted straight off the head of Azusa
>Nakano.

Heh, yeah, basically. Or Mio's in that episode where it's really hot. (Longer bits in front.)

I almost said that Zero looks like Azusa with anger issues (which is to say, Azusa), but decided that was too simplistic. :)

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35. "RE: Fly Girls art designs"
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   LAST EDITED ON Sep-13-14 AT 02:55 AM (EDT)
 
>>Realization: P-38's hairstyle is lifted straight off the head of Azusa
>>Nakano.
>
>Heh, yeah, basically. Or Mio's in that episode where it's really hot.
>(Longer bits in front.)
>
>I almost said that Zero looks like Azusa with anger issues (which is
>to say, Azusa), but decided that was too simplistic. :)

And by a strange coincidence, here we have Azusa looking remarkably like nose art.

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36. "RE: Fly Girls art designs"
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   >Heh, yeah, basically. Or
>Mio's in that episode where it's really hot. (Longer bits in front.)
>I almost said that Zero looks like Azusa with anger issues (which is
>to say, Azusa), but decided that was too simplistic. :)

Oddly enough, I've been using a different Mio for my mental image of Zero.

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37. "RE: Fly Girls art designs"
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   >>Heh, yeah, basically. Or
>>Mio's in that episode where it's really hot. (Longer bits in front.)
>>I almost said that Zero looks like Azusa with anger issues (which is
>>to say, Azusa), but decided that was too simplistic. :)
>
>Oddly enough, I've been using a
>different Mio for my
>mental image of Zero.

They appear to have similar dress sense, although Zero would have to be pretty out of it to leave her quarters without her trousers on. Then again, she does get hit in the head a lot.

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39. "*ding!* Fanart up!"
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   Hey guys, got some prezzies for you! Your Fly Girls artwork is brought to you by Speaker on the Wall Studio and Fnorderal Express.

Zero has a bit of a Goemon Ishikawa thing going on in this shot:

Zero: *sigh* Once again I have cut a worthless object.
Corsair: Hey! Who the <bleep> are you callin' worthless you <bleep> <bleepety-bleep>!?

And here we have Me-109, who is unimpressed with your shenanigans:

And Ilyusha getting ready to pay somebody a beating:

"Ah, so you're only a light tank? Well, then this won't hurt for very long..."

Hope you enjoy it, it was a real trip getting these pictures.

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40. "RE: *ding!* Fanart up!"
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   Short on time & posting from phone right now, but have to say, wooo.

Also, aw, 109. I just wanna give ner a big hug and tell her it's gonna be OK.

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45. "RE: *ding!* Fanart up!"
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   >Short on time & posting from phone right now, but have to say, wooo.

Oh hey, I didn't come back to this. I do apologize.

I like these a lot, especially 109:

>Also, aw, 109. I just wanna give her a big hug and tell her it's
>gonna be OK.

I can't really do better than that in this case. (I'd say the same goes for Zero, except I'm reasonably sure she'd cut me if I tried. :) I particularly like her clothes, which I'm guessing are the Gymnasium Germania school uniform from early in season 1, before they started wearing their Luftwaffe uniforms most of the time (except she's taken off her tie).

My only real quibble with any of them is that Ilyusha's too skinny; she shouldn't be bodybuilder ripped, but she ought to have some visible definition. Kinda like Korra, although Ilyusha doesn't have those long-distance-swimmer shoulders.

All in all, though, success! Thanks for stepping up to get the train rolling. :)

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47. "RE: *ding!* Fanart up!"
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   >>Short on time & posting from phone right now, but have to say, wooo.
>
>Oh hey, I didn't come back to this. I do apologize.

Ist nicht, I've been mostly-dead all week anyway, so. :) (Con is fun, but con is also 15 hour days all freakin' weekend.)

>I can't really do better than that in this case. (I'd say the same
>goes for Zero, except I'm reasonably sure she'd cut me if I tried. :)
>I particularly like her clothes, which I'm guessing are the Gymnasium
>Germania school uniform from early in season 1, before they started
>wearing their Luftwaffe uniforms most of the time (except she's taken
>off her tie).

Yeah, most of the pictures would've been the girls in their pre-war uniforms to cut down on needed reference material. Though to be fair the school uniform colors match the standard duty uniforms.

I'm not entirely sure why 109's tie is missing. I'd say she's enjoying the Bohemian air of the Wiemar years but, well, kinda young for that. ;)

>My only real quibble with any of them is that Ilyusha's too skinny;
>she shouldn't be bodybuilder ripped, but she ought to have some
>visible definition. Kinda like Korra, although Ilyusha doesn't have
>those long-distance-swimmer shoulders.

One could pass that off as artistic license; Kanna-esque characters with the stature to match their stated abilities are rare in this particular kind of anime. But yeah, fair cop.

>All in all, though, success! Thanks for stepping up to get the train
>rolling. :)

A pleasure doin' business!

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49. "RE: *ding!* Fanart up!"
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   LAST EDITED ON Sep-19-14 AT 08:22 PM (EDT)
 
>I'm not entirely sure why 109's tie is missing. I'd say she's enjoying
>the Bohemian air of the Wiemar years but, well, kinda young for that.
>;)

Two possibilities come to mind:

1) That's what a girl from Augsburg does when she feels like being casual. Tie off; top button still buttoned. :)

2) (The Dōjinshi Explanation) Just out of shot to her right, she's used it to tie Hurricane's wrists a) together and b) to the headboard of a brass bedstead. This would imply that that is actually her "satisfied with my handiwork" face, which would mean that she has a bad case of melancholy resting face (as opposed to Zero's classic angry resting face), roughly on par with Droopy Dog's. :)

Oh! I just thought - or it might be her "... Oh, all right, fine, 110, this is not really a good time, but you can get a picture of me if you're quick about it. Now get out, I am busy." face.

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51. "RE: *ding!* Fanart up!"
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   >headboard of a brass bedstead. This would imply that that is actually
>her "satisfied with my handiwork" face, which would mean that she has
>a bad case of melancholy resting face (as opposed to Zero's classic
>angry resting face), roughly on par with Droopy Dog's. :)

And now I'm getting a bit of a vibe like those posters of a Bald Eagle captioned "I Am Smiling"...

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41. "RE: *ding!* Fanart up!"
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   VERY nice! I really like the body language on each of them.

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46. "On the subject of the Great War..."
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   I know that the original studio hold WWI in the same esteem that Gryph holds sad endings, but I recently dug out an absolutely brilliant doujinshi that takes a completely different view of proceedings.

Those Magnificent Men, created by the (presumably pseudonymous) Lanoe Flasheart VC DSO BSE DDOS BanHMER, looks at the war from the perspective of technological advancement and the way the conduct of war changed - and plays off the whole "Colonel Camel is definitely and indisputably a chap, as well as an absolute brick". It is still quite sombre, with the Young Etonians and their Kaiserreichenluftstreitkraftemenschen counterparts beginning not as combatants but as a way of finding peace between the nations that utterly and abysmally failed, leading directly to them becoming enemies and the later series. However, it all takes place towards the end of the war, as advances in tank technology and tactics in general made the trench combat system untenable, thereby saving the needless carnage that marked the war previously.

The characters are well-drawn in addition to being, er, nicely drawn, with "Pago" Handley as the YE's gentle giant of a bomber most memorable. He's just, y'know, pleasant to be around. Also built like a brick shithouse and awkward and a bit shy and yes please I would do things to him that would make the baby Jesus sad and possibly confused. D.III is also very, very pretty, in that whole diamond-cold, kill you if you so much as think of looking at him sort of way. Camel and F2 are, well, it's like comparing a male underwear model with Martin Freeman; they're nice, but they're not damn, y'know. Also arcs characters motivations complex plot I'm not shallow LET ME FANTASISE IN PEACE DAMMIT.

It's sad for the German side, of course, and more than a bit sad for YE even when the Yanks show up (and claim victory despite putting in sod-all work not that we're ones to bear a grudge), but it's that rare, rare thing in works that deal with the Seminal Catastrophe: hopeful. By focussing on how war changed from mindless slaughter, it makes the series feel brighter as it goes forward, which I really liked. It also features the first actual Fly Girl, albeit hidden behind honest-to-God plate mail. That'd be Sally, aka Salamander Sopwith, designed for ground attack and barely used at all during the Great War, and yes she's canon shut up! Word Of God said so at Fan Conference XI and Sally is really really cute and her armour actually looks like armour rather than having stupid boobplates or cut away sections and everybody in this doujin is just wonderful and and and just download it okay? Please?

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Oh, and yes, there is a scene at the end involving the first Armistice Day celebration and those that can still walk are pushing those that can't up to the Cenotaph and Camel laid a poppy wreath and you can tell how much he's trying not to cry and Spitfire just holds his hand and a dead character whose name I refuse to give for spoiler reasons takes his other hand and the whole cast including everyone who died which is a LOT all look up to the sky and there were real tears, guys, real fucking tears, just get this thing alright? Just get it.


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48. "RE: On the subject of the Great War..."
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   Traitor, you are the best one. I mean that. All of the best ones, even. Especially for this:

>Kaiserreichenluftstreitkraftemenschen

You either made this up, which makes you far, far more creative than I'll ever be, or this is a real word in German that you know, which just makes you goddamn awesome.

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50. "RE: On the subject of the Great War..."
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   >You either made this up, which makes you far, far more creative than
>I'll ever be, or this is a real word in German that you know,
>which just makes you goddamn awesome.

I trust I take nothing away from Traitor's accomplishment by pointing out that German's like LEGO, man. Any combination of nouns and adjectives is a real word, all you have to do is keep plugging them together. :)

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52. "RE: On the subject of the Great War..."
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   >I trust I take nothing away from Traitor's accomplishment by pointing
>out that German's like LEGO, man.

This is why I went for French over German at school when we were given the choice.

>Any combination of nouns and adjectives is a real word, all you have
>to do is keep plugging them together. :)

Until your whole wonderful concoction overbalances and topples.

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54. "RE: On the subject of the Great War..."
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   >>You either made this up, which makes you far, far more creative than
>>I'll ever be, or this is a real word in German that you know,
>>which just makes you goddamn awesome.
>
>I trust I take nothing away from Traitor's accomplishment by pointing
>out that German's like LEGO, man. Any combination of nouns and
>adjectives is a real word, all you have to do is keep plugging them
>together. :)

I actually did not know that. I took six years of French (nearly all of which I've lost, because it turns out your language center is basically use-it-or-lose-it) and French is... rigorous about what is and isn't a real word and a properly constructed sentence.

It's actually a little bit weird. I've been to France, and they're mostly some pretty laid-back folks... but you get anywhere near their culture and they will cut you. The grudge some French people hold towards I.M Pei is going to make the decades of bitching about the Dodgers leaving Brooklyn look like a quaint tiff that was quickly settled.

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55. "RE: On the subject of the Great War..."
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   >The grudge some French people
>hold towards I.M Pei is going to make the decades of bitching about
>the Dodgers leaving Brooklyn look like a quaint tiff that was quickly
>settled.

They hated the Eiffel Tower, too. And that was designed by a Frenchman! And yet this is a people who permit the Centre Georges Pompidou to keep standing there bringing down the tone. Go figure.

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56. "RE: On the subject of the Great War..."
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   Hmmmm... an experimental modernist art museum that draws design cues from a variety of great architects and great artists alike, or rusting electricity pylon squatting on the skyline like an alien civilization decided to play darts with it? I know which one I'd pick.

Besides, the Eiffel tower was meant to come down anyway, but nobody could be arsed to actually dismantle the bloody thing even though everybody despised it. Ladies and gentlemen, the French.

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53. "RE: On the subject of the Great War..."
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   Made it up, alas. I think it translates as "Fighter plane gentlemen of the Kaiserreich", though my GCSE German's a little rusty. =]

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57. "RE: Fly Girls art designs"
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   Figured I'd add some more profiles while the creative juices were peculating. While these girls had the greatest screentime in The Jet Age, they still did pop up in the series proper:

Me-262

The youngest daughter of the Messerschmitt clan, this little wunderkind first appears in "Wunderwaffe," causing all sorts of headaches for Coach Arnold's bomber team. Unfortunately for this flaxen-haired half-pint, headaches are something she's all too familiar with. A sickly child from birth who still suffered from poor endurance into her adolescence, she was the subject of a disagreement between her father who wanted a place for her on Germania's fighter team as "Swallow" and the Headmaster who insisted she serve on the badly-mauled bomber team as "Stormbird." She makes her only other appearance in "Ride of the Valkyrie," where she tangles with Columbia High star player P-51, losing in a surprise upset after being plagued with endurance problems again.

Meteor

Hurry's little sister, Meteor first makes the scene in "Bug Hunt" alongside close friend Tempest, where she manages to trick V-1 into flying into the ground after her guns jam. Like her big sister, she sports light brown hair and blue eyes, but wears the former longer and uses makeup to accentuate the latter in an effort to be more like her idol Spitfire. While Coach Hill is impressed with her potential, he feels she still needs refinement, sending her on recon and bombing missions to gain experience. She has a cameo appearance in "In At The Death," trading the standard Britannia uniform for an all-white affair while she takes pictures that help the Allied teams plan for their final game against Germania.

P-80

Officially, P-38's sister and Columbia High's secret weapon goes by the name "Shooting Star" or "Star," but to her father Mr. Johnson and the Lockheed team, she'll always be "Lulu Belle." Her only appearance before TJA! is in "Catch A Falling Star," where she competes with P-59 at Columbia High's Muroc Testing Center for the only open slot in the fighter team's line-up. Sporting the same glossy blonde hair and good looks as her older sister, P-80 chooses to keep her hair in a short pageboy style for convenience, as she's always caught up in testing of one kind or another. She also wears a set of olive-drab coveralls, same as P-59, though with the Lockheed company logo on opposite her nametag "S. Lockheed," and a patch on her right shoulder of a stylized cartoon skunk.

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58. "RE: Fly Girls art designs"
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   Okay, this one's a girl from a doujin set way after Jet Age - but one who could conceivably fit into the series proper on badassness alone.

MFI-9b Malmo
While P-40's black-Irish aesthetic is built around being down on the farm, to say nothing of built full stop, little mixed-race Fly Girl 9b (Swedish and Igbo, the combination you never knew you needed) is skinnier, flatter, and generally shrimpier, looking rather young for her age. Indeed, she looks roughly like a charity case - while people say Zero/Mozzie/Insert Anyone Else Here are too skinny, 9b looks as if she has some kind of horrible eating disorder. Saying whether she does or not constitutes MAJOR spoilers for the doujin in question, so I'll leave it at that. However, her most distinguishing feature, other than her hubcap-size flattened headscarf thing, is the enormous rocket launcher she carries everywhere she goes, decorated with a red, black and green roundel and a stylised python.

Why do I bring up her badass credentials? She's a prop-driven trainer aircraft lower and slower than anything else in the setting, and she takes on MiG-17. You know, the scariest and craziest of the scary crazy Russians? Yeah, she gonna fry, right?

Wrong.

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"She's old, she's lame, she's barren too, // "She's not worth feed or hay, // "But I'll give her this," - he blew smoke at me - // "She was something in her day." -- Garnet Rogers, Small Victory

FiMFiction.net: we might accept blatant porn involving the cast of My Little Pony but as God is my witness we have standards.

MFI-9bs are also called the Biafran Babies, and really did take down Nigerian MiGs. Also a couple of the Il-28s. They were the first MiniCOIN planes, they really did have a couple of rocket launchers nailed to the support struts, and generally speaking they were too awesome to be on the losing side. I smell Corwin's OC...


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59. "RE: Fly Girls art designs"
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   I think I might have seen a picture once, am I right in thinking of Fiesler Storch with the "Looooong Legs" dial turned way down?

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60. "RE: Fly Girls art designs"
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   Indeed. 9b's also practically anorexic, whereas Stork was just going through that "have a cookie" phase that some teenage girls tend to go through on their way to becoming some sort of skyscraping runway model.

That was... kind of a dick move on the part of the author, tbh.

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