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donnerjack
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"Eyrie Productions Destroys the Marvel Universe"
 
   Well, I dunno Gryph, it may not be your best work, but it certainly isn't bad by any stretch. Personally, I thoroughly enjoyed it, and it's always interesting to see some of the evolution of your writing (one of the reasons I really dig stuff from the Vault and resurrected projects like this). Good stuff, good read. Oh, and I love the ending. :)

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  RE: Eyrie Productions Destroys the Marvel Universe Silverex 04-28-03 1
     RE: Eyrie Productions Destroys the Marvel Universe Gryphonadmin 04-28-03 11
         RE: Eyrie Productions Destroys the Marvel Universe WengFook 04-28-03 12
             RE: Eyrie Productions Destroys the Marvel Universe Gryphonadmin 04-28-03 17
                 Dimensional Engineering Fun Stuff remandeteam 04-28-03 30
                     RE: Dimensional Engineering Fun Stuff trigger 04-29-03 44
                         RE: Dimensional Engineering Fun Stuff Seeker 04-29-03 46
                         RE: Dimensional Engineering Fun Stuff Mister Fnord 04-29-03 49
             RE: Eyrie Productions Destroys the Marvel Universe DocMuiteam 04-29-03 37
         RE: Eyrie Productions Destroys the Marvel Universe dbrandon 04-28-03 14
         RE: Eyrie Productions Destroys the Marvel Universe Silverex 04-28-03 20
         RE: Eyrie Productions Destroys the Marvel Universe Neophyte 04-28-03 22
             RE: Eyrie Productions Destroys the Marvel Universe Gryphonadmin 04-28-03 26
                 RE: Eyrie Productions Destroys the Marvel Universe Neophyte 04-28-03 29
  RE: Eyrie Productions Destroys the Marvel Universe Shadowhavoc 04-28-03 2
  RE: Eyrie Productions Destroys the Marvel Universe Sirrocco 04-28-03 3
     RE: Eyrie Productions Destroys the Marvel Universe Ardanielteam 04-28-03 4
         RE: Eyrie Productions Destroys the Marvel Universe Adyen 04-28-03 5
             RE: Eyrie Productions Destroys the Marvel Universe graewulf 04-28-03 6
             RE: Eyrie Productions Destroys the Marvel Universe Bad Moon 04-28-03 7
             RE: Eyrie Productions Destroys the Marvel Universe Gryphonadmin 04-28-03 10
  RE: Eyrie Productions Destroys the Marvel Universe Rod_H 04-28-03 8
     RE: Eyrie Productions Destroys the Marvel Universe Gryphonadmin 04-28-03 9
     RE: Eyrie Productions Destroys the Marvel Universe WengFook 04-28-03 13
     RE: Eyrie Productions Destroys the Marvel Universe Pasha 04-28-03 18
  RE: Eyrie Productions Destroys the Marvel Universe Croaker 04-28-03 15
     RE: Eyrie Productions Destroys the Marvel Universe Gryphonadmin 04-28-03 16
         RE: Eyrie Productions Destroys the Marvel Universe Redneckteam 04-28-03 19
             RE: Eyrie Productions Destroys the Marvel Universe Bakadring 04-28-03 21
                 RE: Eyrie Productions Destroys the Marvel Universe BobSchroeck 04-29-03 50
                     RE: Eyrie Productions Destroys the Marvel Universe Astynax 04-30-03 54
  RE: Eyrie Productions Destroys the Marvel Universe JeanneHedge 04-28-03 23
     RE: Eyrie Productions Destroys the Marvel Universe Ardanielteam 04-28-03 24
         RE: Eyrie Productions Destroys the Marvel Universe Mephron 04-28-03 25
     RE: Eyrie Productions Destroys the Marvel Universe Gryphonadmin 04-28-03 27
         RE: Eyrie Productions Destroys the Marvel Universe Ardanielteam 04-28-03 31
             RE: Eyrie Productions Destroys the Marvel Universe Gryphonadmin 04-28-03 33
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Silverex
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1. "RE: Eyrie Productions Destroys the Marvel Universe"
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   well... I enjoyed it.

all the old TV shows being episodes of Dr WHO were amusing.

For the briefest possible moment, Doom seemed taken aback;
then self-control reasserted itself, and Doctor Doom said, "Doom
shall consider it."

Not being much of a comic reader besides picking up J. Random
shiny/attention getting comic, I found this amusing.

Silverex always loves bad guys who talk about themselves in third person.
Silverex also thinks this is an amusing way to get people he knows
to look at him strangly.

as for the ending... since it seems like you aren't continueing it...
I'm kinda bummed that we won't see any interaction between the Tardis group
and the rest of UF.

Ah well... I think i can dream up my own ideas...


When life hands you lemons, you clone them and make super lemons.


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11. "RE: Eyrie Productions Destroys the Marvel Universe"
In response to message #1
 
   >as for the ending... since it seems like you aren't continueing it...
>I'm kinda bummed that we won't see any interaction between the Tardis
>group
>and the rest of UF.

Dunno where you got that idea... oh, because I said in the preface that you wouldn't be seeing the Marvel Universe again? Well, sure, but I only said that about the Marvel Universe. It's too messed-up and confusing to try to go back to. But now I don't have to...

--G.
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12. "RE: Eyrie Productions Destroys the Marvel Universe"
In response to message #11
 
   >>as for the ending... since it seems like you aren't continueing it...
>>I'm kinda bummed that we won't see any interaction between the Tardis
>>group
>>and the rest of UF.
>
>Dunno where you got that idea... oh, because I said in the preface
>that you wouldn't be seeing the Marvel Universe again? Well, sure,
>but I only said that about the Marvel Universe. It's too
>messed-up and confusing to try to go back to. But now I don't have
>to...
>

Excellent!!! Thank You very VERY much!

Doctor Doom has always been one of my favourite Marvel
characters but now that he is loose in UF-verse?
Wow! Imagine what he can do with the technology...

Tech: So does the Kaiju class destroid meet with your
requirements?

Doom: Yes. Yes this is more than adequate.


Gosh the ending just plain blew my mind, it has been
quite some time since it has been blown :)

Just a few little question. Don Griffin went from a
stabilizing pocket universe to UF (which is a pocket
universe of sorts as well) which
was stabilized in UF-4 when the authors jumped into
the rift?

and with the connections 'Doc' Mui has with the Time Lords
it would'nt be very hard to hop there and then fix it would it?


I had better stop rambling. Just thank you very much
Gryphon :) I cannot wait to see what you are going to do
with the characters.


-WF-Qu'est-ce que Hoek?!-

I am a dream to some.... A NIGHTMARE TO OTHERS!!!
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Gryphonadmin
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17. "RE: Eyrie Productions Destroys the Marvel Universe"
In response to message #12
 
   >Just a few little question. Don Griffin went from a
>stabilizing pocket universe to UF (which is a pocket
>universe of sorts as well) which
>was stabilized in UF-4 when the authors jumped into
>the rift?

No. Notice where Don's telling the others where they've ended up - he says they're in the mainline universe. The UF universe isn't a pocket; it's at the very least a solid branch on the main multiversal tree, if not the trunk.

>and with the connections 'Doc' Mui has with the Time Lords
>it would'nt be very hard to hop there and then fix it would it?

Don covered this too. To get back in, a person, Time Lord or otherwise, would have to create another CVE linking the Marvel Universe to the mainline. That would destroy the Marvel Universe. That would be bad, and also render the entire process pointless to begin with.

They're not going back.

--G.
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30. "Dimensional Engineering Fun Stuff"
In response to message #17
 
   >>Just a few little question. Don Griffin went from a
>>stabilizing pocket universe to UF (which is a pocket
>>universe of sorts as well) which
>>was stabilized in UF-4 when the authors jumped into
>>the rift?
>
>No. Notice where Don's telling the others where they've ended up - he
>says they're in the mainline universe. The UF universe isn't a
>pocket; it's at the very least a solid branch on the main multiversal
>tree, if not the trunk.

Here's my theory:

The UF universe started on a mainline. The CLULESS compiler, as a side effect, gradually slid into a pocket universe. Said pocket universe was, in fact, controlled by a mainline universe, call it UF-Prime, where Vaughn meets up with the Three Avatars.

In UF4, the UF universe was finishing the process of losing connectivity of the mainline and thus getting snuffed out. The insane power levels being transacted there accelerated the process, which is why the crew of the SDF-23 found itself in Dr. Crusher's Warp Bubble. The UF-Prime avatars, by controlling the UF universe, were transacting more power there than the Reflex Cannon II. By going through the portal, their power ripped open a connection from UF to a universe on the mainline, thus creating a valid path between the UF universe and the Eye of Harmony.

The universe they landed in was the Early Cyberpunk universe, where cybernetics had been developed during the Vietnam War and were downright routine by 1992 (thus the hardjacked motorcyclist). My UF-Prime avatar is stranded there, while a transrip at Bancroft Tower took the UF-Prime Ben and MegaZone to the universe known as Hopelessly Lost.

Ben, do I have this about right?

Everyone else: does this even parse?

--Rob

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44. "RE: Dimensional Engineering Fun Stuff"
In response to message #30
 
   >Here's my theory:
>
>The UF universe started on a mainline. The CLULESS compiler, as a
>side effect, gradually slid into a pocket universe. Said pocket
>universe was, in fact, controlled by a mainline universe, call it
>UF-Prime, where Vaughn meets up with the Three Avatars.
>
>In UF4, the UF universe was finishing the process of losing
>connectivity of the mainline and thus getting snuffed out. The insane
>power levels being transacted there accelerated the process, which is
>why the crew of the SDF-23 found itself in Dr. Crusher's Warp Bubble.
>The UF-Prime avatars, by controlling the UF universe, were transacting
>more power there than the Reflex Cannon II. By going through the
>portal, their power ripped open a connection from UF to a universe on
>the mainline, thus creating a valid path between the UF universe and
>the Eye of Harmony.

Um, what's the universe on the mainline? And wouldn't it be much easier to say that they caused enough chaos to start snuffing out other universes (c.f. EPDMU)? Or that the UF-Universe substitued the mainline and as it expands is pushing other universes into instability?

>The universe they landed in was the Early Cyberpunk universe, where
>cybernetics had been developed during the Vietnam War and were
>downright routine by 1992 (thus the hardjacked motorcyclist). My
>UF-Prime avatar is stranded there, while a transrip at Bancroft Tower
>took the UF-Prime Ben and MegaZone to the universe known as Hopelessly
>Lost.

That makes sense

>Everyone else: does this even parse?
This sort of parses. What this doesn't explain is how moving to the UF universe stopped the destruction of the Marvel Universe.

Haven't we played the "what universe is attached to UF" game before?

yours,
t.

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46. "RE: Dimensional Engineering Fun Stuff"
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   >This sort of parses. What this doesn't explain is how moving to the
>UF universe stopped the destruction of the Marvel Universe.

It didn't. I'm thinking of it like this: the Marvel universe was connected to the mainline. When it broke free from the mainline, that connection was spilling the Marvel universe's energy out that broken connection, probably into Yggdrasil's (sp?) void buffer. Griffin and company were trying to reconnect that universe to the mainline. When Doom folded the connection in on itself, it "plugged the leak" much like when you fold a water hose in half. When this happened, they were on the other side of the break from the Marvel universe, and so couldn't get back inside.

I'd venture to guess (more) that Doom managed a very delicate balance, and any tampering with it would make the Marvel universe pop like a soap bubble.


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49. "RE: Dimensional Engineering Fun Stuff"
In response to message #44
 
   >Um, what's the universe on the mainline?

Just at a WAG, there are two choices:

1) Us, here-and-now, act as the mainline, since this is the meta-reality where the Eyrie continuum of universes is actually produced.

2) The UF-Author-Prime universe where the authors who jump into the void in UF4 come from. In that case, UF-Prime is a branch off UF-Author-Prime, which is a subbranch of our timeline...

If there's a reason Time Lords are a little funny in the head, it's because they think about stuff like this all the time. ;)

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37. "RE: Eyrie Productions Destroys the Marvel Universe"
In response to message #12
 
   >Just a few little question. Don Griffin went from a
>stabilizing pocket universe to UF (which is a pocket
>universe of sorts as well) which
>was stabilized in UF-4 when the authors jumped into
>the rift?
>
>and with the connections 'Doc' Mui has with the Time Lords
>it would'nt be very hard to hop there and then fix it would it?

Connection, hm...

That would imply that the Time Lords have shed their attitude of "We are Omnipotent, therefore we can afford to lay around stagnantly with our thumbs in a normally uncomfortable place."

Seriously, the only real connection my UF counterpart has with the Time Lords is that they find him interesting. After all, he's only defied several dozen laws of probability. My UF self has no pull over them; he's really only protected by their whim.

Besides, it's not as if UFDoc can go up to Griffin et al., say that they're off by, oh, a dimensional shift of 6.76 atoseconds, twang a superstring or two, and fling 'em home. If Don, an experienced Time Lord, says they can't go, then there's no way in the seven circles of Perdition that UFDoc, whose experience with dimensional travel was at the whim of a bored omnipotent, can do much of anything.

Thankfully, the UF universe is quite a bit more resilient than, say, DC's version of Hypertime. We won't have any incidents of "we must return to the proper timeline before we wreck the multiverse."

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14. "RE: Eyrie Productions Destroys the Marvel Universe"
In response to message #11
 
   >>as for the ending... since it seems like you aren't continueing it...
>>I'm kinda bummed that we won't see any interaction between the Tardis
>>group
>>and the rest of UF.
>
>Dunno where you got that idea... oh, because I said in the preface
>that you wouldn't be seeing the Marvel Universe again? Well, sure,
>but I only said that about the Marvel Universe. It's too
>messed-up and confusing to try to go back to. But now I don't have
>to...
>
>--G.
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>Benjamin D. Hutchins, Co-Founder, Editor in Chief, Netadmin
>Eyrie Productions, Unlimited http://www.eyrie-productions.com/

So we've got Grimm, used to playing a strong supporting role in a team, and Doom, cast loose from his gigantic fortune and support structure...

And they just did some light "bonding" during the crisis (Can I call ya 'Vic'?)...

I can _just_ see these two joining forces.

Man, only in UF.

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20. "RE: Eyrie Productions Destroys the Marvel Universe"
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   >
>Dunno where you got that idea... oh, because I said in the preface
>that you wouldn't be seeing the Marvel Universe again? Well, sure,
>but I only said that about the Marvel Universe. It's too
>messed-up and confusing to try to go back to. But now I don't have
>to...
>

Ah! Excelent. Makes my day, week, and should get me past finals.

*insert evil grin of anticipation here*

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22. "RE: Eyrie Productions Destroys the Marvel Universe"
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   >Dunno where you got that idea... oh, because I said in the preface
>that you wouldn't be seeing the Marvel Universe again? Well, sure,
>but I only said that about the Marvel Universe. It's too
>messed-up and confusing to try to go back to. But now I don't have
>to...

So shouldn't you link this to a UF page somewhere?

And as a side note, about when in the timeline are they? Late 2390s early 2400s I assume?




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26. "RE: Eyrie Productions Destroys the Marvel Universe"
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   >So shouldn't you link this to a UF page somewhere?

And give away the end?

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29. "RE: Eyrie Productions Destroys the Marvel Universe"
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   >>So shouldn't you link this to a UF page somewhere?
>
>And give away the end?

Oops, good point.




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2. "RE: Eyrie Productions Destroys the Marvel Universe"
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   Now that was a very entertaining read. Few things from the Marvel Universe I actually liked, the Uncanny X-Men and GI Joe. Very amusing, also very unexpected.

Man, that's the fifth off-beat prediction this month. Wonder if there's any psychic doctors.


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3. "RE: Eyrie Productions Destroys the Marvel Universe"
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   BWAHAHAHAHA!

*ahem*

Just thought I'd give my reaction to the last scene verbatim. I was also especially fond of the Grimm/Doom scene, and Wolverine's little moment with Stark.

The timing on the Guardian showing up was like this tiny point of beauty. I had just stopped wondering when he was going to arrive.

So, will these characters be showing up in UF? As you said, it's obvious they won't be having any more adventures in the *Marvel* universe, but it'd be nice to see a bit more of them.

I enjoyed this one a great deal. It was a shade or two darker than a lot of the stuff you've been doing recently. It left me in suspense, right up to the end.

Thank you.

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4. "RE: Eyrie Productions Destroys the Marvel Universe"
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   >I enjoyed this one a great deal. It was a shade or two darker than a
>lot of the stuff you've been doing recently. It left me in suspense,
>right up to the end.


Marvel in general is a shade or two darker-- especially in the Claremontian mid-80s X-titles-- than UF's Shiny Happy Anime Future tends to run. (I had to comment, because I'm learning this Relative Grit Level thing by Gryph-induced osmosis. ;)

Ard
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5. "RE: Eyrie Productions Destroys the Marvel Universe"
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   Not being someone who frequently reads anything to do with Marvel (or American comics, for that matter), I got to say that this is quite a good read. Of course, it was very evil you of you leave it hanging with them being UF New Avalon.

Just for reference sake, DC is 'Dimentional Copy', correct? Then what does DDP stand for, exactly?


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6. "RE: Eyrie Productions Destroys the Marvel Universe"
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   >Then what
>does DDP stand for, exactly?

Dimensionally Displaced..People?

- ajc.


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7. "RE: Eyrie Productions Destroys the Marvel Universe"
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   >Not being someone who frequently reads anything to do with Marvel (or
>American comics, for that matter), I got to say that this is quite a
>good read. Of course, it was very evil you of you leave it hanging
>with them being UF New Avalon.
>
>Just for reference sake, DC is 'Dimentional Copy', correct? Then what
>does DDP stand for, exactly?

I'm usually horrible at guessing acronyms but I'd venture to say it is Dimensionally Displaced Persons.

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10. "RE: Eyrie Productions Destroys the Marvel Universe"
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   >Just for reference sake, DC is 'Dimentional Copy', correct? Then what
>does DDP stand for, exactly?

Dimensional Counterpart; Dimensionally Displaced Persons. Part of the standard jargon devised by the WDF back in the Golden Age for dealing with dimensional crossrip events and their aftermaths. For no reason anyone has been able to determine, the incidence of such events went way up in the mid-21st century compared to its historical levels as compiled by such organizations as the Royal Salusian Navy, which is the galaxy's oldest continuously operating space navy.

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8. "RE: Eyrie Productions Destroys the Marvel Universe"
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   Heh, I like it, and I've read some shocking (plus the good) X-men fics.
Yeah I can see why there's some issues with Marvel in May 1998 as that's when I got onto buying the X-books (before that I was reading them on the newsstand) I cut back alot once the final Magneto-Genosha thing happened (and Deadpool ended). I'm not that big a fan of O:ZT too and that's with getting the TPB to get some idea of the storyline.

I can also see some of the TARDIS refugees making the odd SotS appearance, Kitty should be skilled enough to be a Duelist, Logan knocking back a few with UFThor etc...

If they ever get back Jubilee would probably kick herself for missing the boat, just imagine what she and the UF-Powerpuff Girls would get into besides raiding the malls.

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9. "RE: Eyrie Productions Destroys the Marvel Universe"
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   >If they ever get back Jubilee would probably kick herself for missing
>the boat, just imagine what she and the UF-Powerpuff Girls would get
>into besides raiding the malls.

They're not going back, but, uh, Jubilee didn't miss the boat, so, there you are.

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13. "RE: Eyrie Productions Destroys the Marvel Universe"
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   >Heh, I like it, and I've read some shocking (plus the good) X-men
>fics.
>Yeah I can see why there's some issues with Marvel in May 1998 as
>that's when I got onto buying the X-books (before that I was reading
>them on the newsstand) I cut back alot once the final Magneto-Genosha
>thing happened (and Deadpool ended). I'm not that big a fan of O:ZT
>too and that's with getting the TPB to get some idea of the storyline.
>
>I can also see some of the TARDIS refugees making the odd SotS
>appearance, Kitty should be skilled enough to be a Duelist, Logan
>knocking back a few with UFThor etc...

I don't really know about Kitty but Logan would surely make a
very good duelist :)

He never goes anywhere unarmed :)

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18. "RE: Eyrie Productions Destroys the Marvel Universe"
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   >I can also see some of the TARDIS refugees making the odd SotS
>appearance, Kitty should be skilled enough to be a Duelist, Logan
>knocking back a few with UFThor etc...

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Kitty: "Yeah, well you can't hit what isn't corpreal, either. *smirk*"

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15. "RE: Eyrie Productions Destroys the Marvel Universe"
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   *grin*

One question for you... does your version of the Marvel Universe include Magneto's term as Headmaster of Xavier's School, while the Prof was away? Just curious, since that's my own favorite period for setting 'fics...

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16. "RE: Eyrie Productions Destroys the Marvel Universe"
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   >One question for you... does your version of the Marvel Universe
>include Magneto's term as Headmaster of Xavier's School, while the
>Prof was away?

Errrrrr...

... boy, that sounds inadvisable.

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19. "RE: Eyrie Productions Destroys the Marvel Universe"
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   >>One question for you... does your version of the Marvel Universe
>>include Magneto's term as Headmaster of Xavier's School, while the
>>Prof was away?
>
>Errrrrr...
>
>... boy, that sounds inadvisable.

It coincided with Magneto trying to 'go straight', so to speak, and pretty much ended, if my vague memory serves, with his going on trial in Paris for his crimes against humanity.

1992-94 range, if memory serves.

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21. "RE: Eyrie Productions Destroys the Marvel Universe"
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   Nah- the World Court Trial is *when* the Prof got hurt, neccesitating a medical evac by Lilandra (Shiar Empress and chuck's honey). Magneto, under the alias Michael Xavier, took over the day-to-day running of the school and training the New Mutants. He also went adventuring with the X-Men (This was around the same time as Secret Wars II, if that helps place it in anyone's memories. I was a good period of X-Men history, IMHO, though it seemes to have been completely ignored by latter-day X-Writers.) The Bush/Saddam parallel ain't really a good one for Mags and Chuck.(At least, during the Claremont Years) Think more like Malcolm X and Martin Luther King- same goals, different methodologies.

About the story itself- I really enjoyed this one, Ben. I, too was an X-Fan in the halcyon days of the eighties and early nineties, and this brought back a lot of fond memories. A real ripping yarn, with terrific characterization- The Doc Doom third-person-speech, the Jubilee wisecracks... I really hope you plan on using at least some of the Marvel Refugees in future UF stories- Kurt and Kitty would fit in wonderfully with Kaitlyn's clique, (And I'd love to see Urd and Kurt flirt)and the very idea of Doom taking over (or opposing, for that matter) Big Fire has got loads of story potential. Or Maybe Logan vs. Jackie Chan? (Just sparring, mind...) the mind boggles. A few particular points- not gripes, just comments or questions:

-Department H. These guys kill me. Actually, John Byrne kills me for even coming up with these guys. The idea that the Canadian Government could fund and run a hi-tech shadow government capable of producing super-powered operatives amuses me no end, always has. I don't know if this was one of your jabs at Marvel, or just playing with the Milieu, but when Don, when looking for his missing TARDIS, basically says "The Canadians! Of Course!" I almost died laughing. So very Marvel.

-Rachel Summers: I realize that the whole Phoenix Force thing is something you really might not want floating about in the UF Universe, but I still think it's a shame Don couldn't save her, too. I've really missed her in recent years, she was one of my faves, too.

-Logan: Get this guy to join the Freespacers! He'd *love* it there. Either that or have him emigrate to Tomodachi a.k.a. Ninja Paradise...

Anyway, loved it, and would happily read any future stories featuring these characters. Good job.

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50. "RE: Eyrie Productions Destroys the Marvel Universe"
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   >)and the very idea of Doom taking over (or opposing, for that
>matter) Big Fire has got loads of story potential.

Hell with that. I wanna see Doom and Mojojojo in the Battle Of The Ostentatious Speech Patterns.

>-Logan: Get this guy to join the Freespacers! He'd *love* it there.
>Either that or have him emigrate to Tomodachi a.k.a. Ninja Paradise...

He might as well buy the house on the other side of the Hutchins/Tenjou home (the one that isn't Azalynn and Moose's place, IIRC).

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54. "RE: Eyrie Productions Destroys the Marvel Universe"
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   >>)and the very idea of Doom taking over (or opposing, for that
>>matter) Big Fire has got loads of story potential.
>
>Hell with that. I wanna see Doom and Mojojojo in the Battle Of The
>Ostentatious Speech Patterns.
>

Gah, do you have -any- comprehension of how -long- those sentences, let alone paragraphs, would be? The two of them would probably cause some sort of verbal quantum singularity.


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23. "RE: Eyrie Productions Destroys the Marvel Universe"
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   I never was into Marvel Comics or "X-Men" (although I did see the TV series once in a while, and did like the movie), so my enjoyment of this story didn't come from seeing a different take on old friends (several of whom I have never heard of). No, I liked other things the best.

I enjoyed the cameo by the Hartnell (first) Doctor while Piotr and Kurt were watching old British television - was that any particular Dalek episode, or just a generic one?

And The Doctor mentioned fighting against the Cybermen... if The Doctor was the Lord President - would this be a cameo by the Baker (fourth) Doctor? (of course, IIRC his memory of claiming the LP was wiped later in the same episode where he claimed it... oh who cares...) Or maybe the Davison (fifth) Doctor (who got the LP foisted back upon himself without his consent)? Or later?

I take it Alistair Stuart of WHO isn't related to Alastair Lethbridge-Stewart of UNIT.


I'm just catching a clue on this one - if Iron Man is Tony Stark, is that why that one HL story is titled Stark Fist?


I wonder if Don will have to change his name. How commonly remembered is Reika's band (of the post-Ronin era), or that Don Griffin was a prominent member in it? Would you have to be a music-nerd, like Kate, to know that sort of thing?

Of course, this could be an alternate-universe New Avalon, with its own version of the IPO and the First Lensman (hey, that sort of thing has been done in other SI fics <weg>).


As for the message sent back to Professor Xavier, someone's been reading Clarke ^_^ (or watching pretty-looking movies). Still, it's a pretty good line, it's not its fault it's from a mediocre book (which I still thought was better than the movie (which at the time confirmed my thought that actress Helen Mirren was Russian, but that's another story for a different time))


It took me a while to figure out why "Sergeant Rusty Schweickart" was ringing bells in my mind? Would he be any relation to Russell L. "Rusty" Schweickart, LM pilot for Apollo 9?

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24. "RE: Eyrie Productions Destroys the Marvel Universe"
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   >I take it Alistair Stuart of WHO isn't related to Alastair
>Lethbridge-Stewart of UNIT.

No; he's a Marvel Universe character, a member of Britain's Weird Happenings Organisation. Featured in Excalibur, along with his sister Alysande.

Look here for more info.

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25. "RE: Eyrie Productions Destroys the Marvel Universe"
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   >>I take it Alistair Stuart of WHO isn't related to Alastair
>>Lethbridge-Stewart of UNIT.
>
>No; he's a Marvel Universe character, a member of Britain's Weird
>Happenings Organisation. Featured in Excalibur, along with
>his sister Alysande.

Of course, the truth is that the Weird Happenings Organisation, and the Stuarts themselves, are gentle swipes from Dr. Who (I mean, come on - look at the acronym...)

So I guess the best answer is, "Nope, more of a tribute."

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27. "RE: Eyrie Productions Destroys the Marvel Universe"
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   >I enjoyed the cameo by the Hartnell (first) Doctor while Piotr and
>Kurt were watching old British television - was that any particular
>Dalek episode, or just a generic one?

I believe the sequence I had in mind when I wrote the episode was The Dalek Invasion of Earth, or possibly The Chase. Pretty sure it was the former - I think I had in mind the "We are the masters of Earth. We are the masters of Earth" scene.

>And The Doctor mentioned fighting against the Cybermen...

Every time so far that Don has run into the Doctor, it's been the seventh one (Sylvester McCoy), accompanied by Ace.

>I'm just catching a clue on this one - if Iron Man is Tony Stark, is
>that why that one HL story is titled Stark Fist?

Sort-of-coincidentally. The title's actually a tongue-in-cheek reference to the Stark Fist of Removal, which is a Discordian concept and, as such, ties in with the fact that Dana O'Neill is really Eris.

>I wonder if Don will have to change his name. How commonly remembered
>is Reika's band (of the post-Ronin era), or that Don Griffin was a
>prominent member in it? Would you have to be a music-nerd, like Kate,
>to know that sort of thing?

They're a pretty obscure band by the 25th century. Anybody remembering the name of their second lead guitarist (of four) in the 2400s would be kind of like a modern teenager remembering the name of the guy who played lead alto sax in Benny Goodman's orchestra in 1936.

>It took me a while to figure out why "Sergeant Rusty Schweickart" was
>ringing bells in my mind? Would he be any relation to Russell L.
>"Rusty" Schweickart, LM pilot for Apollo 9?

Well, Sgt. Schweickart's first name is also Russell, but his friends call him Russ, not Rusty. :)

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31. "RE: Eyrie Productions Destroys the Marvel Universe"
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   >Sort-of-coincidentally. The title's actually a tongue-in-cheek
>reference to the Stark Fist of Removal, which is a Discordian concept
>and, as such, ties in with the fact that Dana O'Neill is really Eris.

Sorry, Gryph. SubGenius concept, not Discordian.

http://www.subgenius.com/bigfist/fistclutch.html

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33. "RE: Eyrie Productions Destroys the Marvel Universe"
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   >>Sort-of-coincidentally. The title's actually a tongue-in-cheek
>>reference to the Stark Fist of Removal, which is a Discordian concept
>>and, as such, ties in with the fact that Dana O'Neill is really Eris.
>
>Sorry, Gryph. SubGenius concept, not Discordian.

Isn't it in the Principia someplace? I've never read any of the SubGenius stuff. Or did that find its way in through Zoner?

Whatever.

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43. "RE: Eyrie Productions Destroys the Marvel Universe"
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   >>I enjoyed the cameo by the Hartnell (first) Doctor while Piotr and
>>Kurt were watching old British television - was that any particular
>>Dalek episode, or just a generic one?
>
>I believe the sequence I had in mind when I wrote the episode was
>The Dalek Invasion of Earth, or possibly The Chase.
>Pretty sure it was the former - I think I had in mind the "We are the
>masters of Earth. We are the masters of Earth" scene.

Hmmm, fun. :)

>
>>And The Doctor mentioned fighting against the Cybermen...
>
>Every time so far that Don has run into the Doctor, it's been the
>seventh one (Sylvester McCoy), accompanied by Ace.

My favorite combination. :) How deeply (if at all) have you gotten into the various follow-on bits? Novels, audioplays, etc, etc...

>
>>I'm just catching a clue on this one - if Iron Man is Tony Stark, is
>>that why that one HL story is titled Stark Fist?
>
>Sort-of-coincidentally. The title's actually a tongue-in-cheek
>reference to the Stark Fist of Removal, which is a Discordian concept
>and, as such, ties in with the fact that Dana O'Neill is really Eris.


And what a cute li'l apple-monger she is... :)

>
>>It took me a while to figure out why "Sergeant Rusty Schweickart" was
>>ringing bells in my mind? Would he be any relation to Russell L.
>>"Rusty" Schweickart, LM pilot for Apollo 9?
>
>Well, Sgt. Schweickart's first name is also Russell, but his friends
>call him Russ, not Rusty. :)
>
>--G.
>(why should Armstrong and Aldrin get all the glory? :)

*grin*

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28. "RE: Eyrie Productions Destroys the Marvel Universe"
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   Nicely done Gryph!! Very nicely done, indeed!

And I too suffered from major breakage, first from the "All these worlds" message, then as the realisation started sinking in about where they landed. Right up until the mention of "First Lensman" I was going no... no way. Ive gotta be wrong... HOLY COW! I'm Right!

Loved all the things that others have mentioned, and do put me down as yet another voice who hopes that the DDP's from this story get an occasional cameo in other UF stories.

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48. "RE: Eyrie Productions Destroys the Marvel Universe"
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   >Nicely done Gryph!! Very nicely done, indeed!
>
>And I too suffered from major breakage, first from the "All these
>worlds" message, then as the realisation started sinking in about
>where they landed. Right up until the mention of "First Lensman" I
>was going no... no way. Ive gotta be wrong... HOLY COW! I'm Right!

Heh. I was reading this at work. When they exited the TARDIS, I immediately thought "New Avalon", then tried to convince myself that Gryphon wasn't that cruel to his poor, defenseless readers. I'd almost convinced myself, despite ongoing clues, until the officer asked that the IPO be sent in. The other operator was looking at me funny when I removed my forehead from the desk.


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32. "Truth in Advertising"
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   Strictly speaking, the title is wrong. Indeed, EPU spends most of the story trying to save the Marvel Universe.

But then, there just isn't much ring to EPU Locks the Marvel Universe in a Closet, Then Eats The Key

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34. "RE: Truth in Advertising"
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   >Strictly speaking, the title is wrong.

In which it more-or-less matches the -original- concept behind Fred Hembeck Destroys the Marvel Universe. For more info on that, check www.hembeck.com .

> Indeed, EPU spends most of the
>story trying to save the Marvel Universe.

Well, Spidey has to live -somewhere,- and he wouldn't really be the same out of his version of New York.

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35. "RE: Truth in Advertising"
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   >>Strictly speaking, the title is wrong.
>
>In which it more-or-less matches the -original- concept behind Fred
>Hembeck Destroys the Marvel Universe
. For more info on that, check
>www.hembeck.com .

Though the first thing I thought of when I saw the title was a Punisher alternate-universe one-shot I read once called The Punisher Kills the Marvel Universe. Silly title, execution rather dark; in it, instead of Frank Castle's family being killed by a car bomb, they're killed in the crossfire of a costume fight in Central Park -- IIRC, the only people that Frank doesn't manage to get out in time.

So, when Cyclops tries to apologize, Frank blows his head off. I think he took one or two others with him before they took him down... and then he was broken out by a group of people who were similarly caught as innocent bystanders in costume battles. They outfit him to hunt costumes, and he proceeds to kill every single super in the Marvel universe -- Wolverine is the final kill. Then he kills himself, as he realizes that he's become the very thing he was fighting by then.

Needless to say, I went into the story in a rather odd frame of mind.

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36. "RE: Truth in Advertising"
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   >So, when Cyclops tries to apologize, Frank blows his head off.

Taken as an isolated event, no big loss.

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38. "RE: Truth in Advertising"
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   >>So, when Cyclops tries to apologize, Frank blows his head off.
>
>Taken as an isolated event, no big loss.
>

Not a fan of Ol' red eye, huh?
I kinda got that hint from the story too.

Any particular reason why?


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39. "RE: Truth in Advertising"
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   >Not a fan of Ol' red eye, huh?
>
>Any particular reason why?

Mainly because he has no identifiable sense of humor, which is a bad thing in someone, such as a Marvel mutant, whose life can really only be made tolerable by liberal doses of humor. (Even if it's only gallows humor. Scott can't even do that.)

It's also a reflection of his interactions with Don. Cyclops had left the X-Men when Don came along, and Don was one of the younger generation who didn't particularly appreciate it when Scott wandered back in after years out in the cold and started styling himself Supreme X-Leader. Don used to compare him unflatteringly to Starscream, which always got on Scott's nerves. (And that was before Don started dating his daughter.)

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40. "RE: Truth in Advertising"
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   >It's also a reflection of his interactions with Don. Cyclops had left
>the X-Men when Don came along, and Don was one of the younger
>generation who didn't particularly appreciate it when Scott wandered
>back in after years out in the cold and started styling himself
>Supreme X-Leader. Don used to compare him unflatteringly to
>Starscream, which always got on Scott's nerves. (And that was
>before Don started dating his daughter.)

I remember an issue of X-Men where Cyclops fought Storm in the Danger Room for leadership of the X-Men and lost. And this was after Storm had lost her powers.

He seemed really pissy that had happen. My feelings were "Dude, you're a GUN. She kicked your ass without powers because you weren't smart enough to be anything other than a GUN."

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42. "RE: Truth in Advertising"
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   >I remember an issue of X-Men where Cyclops fought Storm in the Danger
>Room for leadership of the X-Men and lost. And this was after Storm
>had lost her powers.
>
>He seemed really pissy that had happen. My feelings were "Dude,
>you're a GUN. She kicked your ass without powers because you
>weren't smart enough to be anything other than a GUN."

... well, and because his powers are broken.

(Don was reasonably sure he could develop an implant that would fix that, but why bother? The guy would probably just be all ungrateful about it anyway.)

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53. "RE: Truth in Advertising"
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   >(Don was reasonably sure he could develop an implant that would fix
>that, but why bother? The guy would probably just be all ungrateful
>about it anyway.)

His powers or his sense of humor? Either one could be helped with some brain surgery, really...

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45. "RE: Truth in Advertising"
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   >Mainly because he has no identifiable sense of humor, which is a bad
>thing in someone, such as a Marvel mutant, whose life can really only
>be made tolerable by liberal doses of humor. (Even if it's only
>gallows humor. Scott can't even do that.)
>
>It's also a reflection of his interactions with Don...

You have _no_ idea how much I loved it when the cool x-men left and little whinny Scott didn't. I _hate_ Cyclops. See all reasons stated above.

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47. "RE: Truth in Advertising"
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   >>>So, when Cyclops tries to apologize, Frank blows his head off.
>>
>>Taken as an isolated event, no big loss.
>>
>
>Not a fan of Ol' red eye, huh?
>I kinda got that hint from the story too.
>
>Any particular reason why?

Don't know about Gryphon, but my dislike for Scott "I can't make a command decision to save my life" Summers has something to do with his going walkabout for years after getting married, then wandering back into the team after his wife turns out to be a clone of Jeanne - and expecting the team to just accept him as their fearless leader, despite his total lack of qualifications (you know, like the ability to make command decisions, knowledge of the resources his team has available and how best to use them, etc.) for the job.

Oh yeah, the ramrod up his rear didn't help matters, either.

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41. "RE: Truth in Advertising"
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   >Though the first thing I thought of when I saw the title was a
>Punisher alternate-universe one-shot I read once called The
>Punisher Kills the Marvel Universe
. Silly title, execution rather
>dark; in it, instead of Frank Castle's family being killed by a car
>bomb, they're killed in the crossfire of a costume fight in Central
>Park -- IIRC, the only people that Frank doesn't manage to get out in
>time.

Wasn't that an issue of What if...?
I think I read that issue..
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51. "RE: Eyrie Productions Destroys the Marvel Universe"
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   Nicely done, Gryph. I think you undersell yourself a bit -- this certainly isn't anywhere close to ... what did you call it? Your "crap period". If it were at one time cruder, well, it's certainly gone under a more sophisticated editorial knife since then, and it shows. It kept me reading most of the evening, instead of balancing my checkbook and doing the bills, after all... <grin>

I, too, am an old, old Marvel fan, from around 1982-3 to maybe 1990, and the affectionate (and not-so-affectionate) tributes to that era really rung some bells for me. It's a pity you couldn't shoehorn some of my other personal favorites in there, but I understand the constraints that the story imposed. (On that topic, since folks are engaging in reminiscences elsewhere in the thread, does anyone else remember the Wolverine-Katie Power teamup?) I'm also a Dr. Who fan (almost a quarter century now), and that whole element of the story was a pleasure to see. I really wish we could get to see some of those adventures merely hinted at in the narration... that would be a lot of fun. Oh, well...

I can't wait to see if the ending is "in continuity" for UF proper; I hope it is, simply because of the realm of possibilities that it opens. I won't go into "what ifs" here, because so many others have already, but I'm really hoping to see these folks again.

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52. "RE: Eyrie Productions Destroys the Marvel Universe"
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   >(On that topic, since folks are
>engaging in reminiscences elsewhere in the thread, does anyone else
>remember the Wolverine-Katie Power teamup?)

Yep. That was right around the time I was introduced to the series, it seems to me. It's very likely that the first issue I saw, the one I can't remember for sure, is issue 201, though the one that always sticks (obviously incorrectly, since I know I've read 201) in my head as the first one I saw is 210.

>I can't wait to see if the ending is "in continuity" for UF proper;

I'll spare you the suspense; it is. I'm not that cheap. :)

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   Oh, I almost forgot... Thank you Gryph for the best Birthday present I've ever gotten!

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