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"Funny thing occured to me"
 
   But just how DID Azalynn know that Utena was from another deimension?
It is not like she would have told her. If I saw a copy of a book
called "So You've Just Arrived from a Parallel Deimension" lying around , I would have just assumed it was just another third rate science fiction book.
(Referring to the scene in "Azalynn's Winter Holiday when she gives to
above mentioned book to Saionji to explain his perdicament)

*Has a feeling that Anthy will not be showing till near the very end of this
arc, just before or after Ohtori gets what he deserves*


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  RE: Funny thing occured to me Gryphonadmin Oct-17-01 1
     RE: Funny thing occured to me Matrix Dragon Oct-17-01 2
     RE: Funny thing occured to me Star Ranger4 Oct-18-01 7
         RE: Funny thing occured to me Gryphonadmin Oct-18-01 8
             RE: Funny thing occured to me ejheckathorn Oct-18-01 9
                 RE: Funny thing occured to me Gryphonadmin Oct-18-01 10
                     RE: Funny thing occured to me Wedge Oct-18-01 11
                         RE: Funny thing occured to me Gryphonadmin Oct-18-01 12
  RE: Funny thing occured to me DocMuiteam Oct-17-01 3
     RE: Funny thing occured to me Mephronmoderator Oct-17-01 4
         RE: Funny thing occured to me DocMuiteam Oct-17-01 5
     RE: Funny thing occured to me Gryphonadmin Oct-17-01 6

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Gryphonadmin
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Oct-17-01, 01:41 AM (EST)
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1. "RE: Funny thing occured to me"
In response to message #0
 
   >But just how DID Azalynn know that Utena was from another deimension?
>It is not like she would have told her. If I saw a copy of a book
>called "So You've Just Arrived from a Parallel Deimension" lying
>around , I would have just assumed it was just another third rate
>science fiction book.

Derek's books are quite well-known. Anyone with a reasonable amount of education - like, say, Azalynn - will know what they are, especially Parallel Dimension; it's one of the most famous titles in the series, along with So You've Become Unstuck in Time.

Azalynn didn't necessarily know that Utena was from another world, though she might have. What she demonstrably knew, from having been in Morgan 401 and being a remarkably perceptive creature, was that Utena had a copy of that book. The rest is deductive reasoning, a thing Azalynn is quite good at.

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2. "RE: Funny thing occured to me"
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   >Derek's books are quite well-known. Anyone with a reasonable amount
>of education - like, say, Azalynn - will know what they are,
>especially Parallel Dimension; it's one of the most famous titles
>in the series, along with So You've Become Unstuck in Time.

In Secrets, Gryph mentions how dimensional travel isn't unknown. In fact, there's a few examples of it throughout UF. It's likely that people know about it, it's just that they always think its something you hear of but never experience.

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7. "RE: Funny thing occured to me"
In response to message #1
 
   >>But just how DID Azalynn know that Utena was from another deimension?
>>It is not like she would have told her. If I saw a copy of a book
>>called "So You've Just Arrived from a Parallel Deimension" lying
>>around , I would have just assumed it was just another third rate
>>science fiction book.
>
>Derek's books are quite well-known. Anyone with a reasonable amount
>of education - like, say, Azalynn - will know what they are,
>especially Parallel Dimension; it's one of the most famous
>titles in the series, along with So You've Become Unstuck in
>Time
.
>
He had Doc as a co-writer on the second, I hope....

>Azalynn didn't necessarily know that Utena was from another world,
>though she might have. What she demonstrably knew, from having been
>in Morgan 401 and being a remarkably perceptive creature, was that
>Utena had a copy of that book. The rest is deductive reasoning, a
>thing Azalynn is quite good at.

Also, remember that Utena was a new student. Add that + she owns a copy of "so you've just arrived..." and I'd make the same deduction as well; ie Utena is NOT from this universe. And that's without Azalynn's ability to 'smell' the difference.

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Gryphonadmin
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8. "RE: Funny thing occured to me"
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   >Also, remember that Utena was a new student. Add that + she owns a
>copy of "so you've just arrived..." and I'd make the same deduction as
>well; ie Utena is NOT from this universe.

Take it one step further and you're there: Utena told the rest of Table 11 the name of the guy who attacked her the week before Christmas break, and that he was a former schoolmate of hers, at her previous school. Therefore, when he reappears and shows signs of extreme disorientation, that's the book he needs as well.

Between that and Saionji's, er, debriefing, Azalynn "today" knows almost as much about the situation as Kaitlyn - not quite as much, since there are things that neither Saionji nor Miki knows and that Azalynn can't divine for herself, but almost. Even some of those, Azalynn could make decently-rooted speculations about if she had just a little more information, based on the evidence of her six regular senses.

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9. "RE: Funny thing occured to me"
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   >Even some of
>those, Azalynn could make decently-rooted speculations about if
>she had just a little more information, based on the evidence of her
>six regular senses.

What's number 6?

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Gryphonadmin
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10. "RE: Funny thing occured to me"
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   >>Even some of
>>those, Azalynn could make decently-rooted speculations about if
>>she had just a little more information, based on the evidence of her
>>six regular senses.
>
>What's number 6?

Pardon me while I suppress both MPFC and The Prisoner references. :)

The Dantrovian sixth sense is an ability to sense the planetary magnetosphere of class-M planets and intuit certain facts about one's position from that - where on the globe one is relative to the poles and equator, and from that, what time of year it is in one's current location.

(It is a quirk of the UF universe that most class-M planets have a measure of axial tilt which conveys upon them seasons, after the fashion of Earth - sometimes more or less severe, but along the same general pattern. Some planetologists have theorized that such a tilt contributes in some vital manner to the formation of class-M conditions on planets in the first place.)

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11. "RE: Funny thing occured to me"
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   >The Dantrovian sixth sense is an ability to sense the planetary
>magnetosphere of class-M planets and intuit certain facts about one's
>position from that - where on the globe one is relative to the poles
>and equator, and from that, what time of year it is in one's current
>location.

Hmmm, I bet she (and all other Dantrovians, one would assume) is a whole barrel of fun in the proximity of strong magnetic fields, like around Jupiter or near any given star. That must suck.

How much effect do artificial, locally strong magnetic fields have on them? Like, say, the containment field of a fusion reactor and the like?

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Gryphonadmin
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12. "RE: Funny thing occured to me"
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   >Hmmm, I bet she (and all other Dantrovians, one would assume) is a
>whole barrel of fun in the proximity of strong magnetic fields, like
>around Jupiter or near any given star. That must suck.

Space travel is kind of weird, as is visiting a body without a notable magnetosphere (like, say, the Moon). Being isolated from magnetic disturbances (for instance, aboard a starship with its navigational deflectors up) has a curious "there's nothing there" feel, like suddenly realizing it's eerily quiet.

>How much effect do artificial, locally strong magnetic fields have on
>them? Like, say, the containment field of a fusion reactor and the
>like?

Not much - they're too local. They can "drown out" the overall magnetosphere, making it impossible to sense, but they don't give a "false reading" - they're just noise.

It's not a conscious thing most of the time - just an awareness at the back of the mind. If something about it changes, it takes a while for that change to be noticed, and it may not be, consciously. It's kind of a vestigial ability, and not really useful for much of anything.

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3. "RE: Funny thing occured to me"
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   Just FYI, there are probably those who can tell when an individual is not within their native dimension. However, they tend to be exceedingly rare, often falling into one of two categories:

1. They have godlike power. Determining something like this is trivial.
2. Their own personal dimensional vibes are sufficiently messed up as to allow this to happen. This could be done by multiple displacements within a fairly short period of time, often wreaking havoc on the person's sanity. Suffice it to say, the judgment of these individuals is often questionable.

In any case, it's kind of like seeing who sticks out, only with subtle dimensional vibrations.

Just my 2 cents worth,

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4. "RE: Funny thing occured to me"
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   >2. Their own personal dimensional vibes are sufficiently messed up as
>to allow this to happen. This could be done by multiple displacements
>within a fairly short period of time, often wreaking havoc on the
>person's sanity. Suffice it to say, the judgment of these individuals
>is often questionable.

Now I understand why UF-Doc is so bizarre. It makes much sense now.

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DocMuiteam
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5. "RE: Funny thing occured to me"
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   >>2. Their own personal dimensional vibes are sufficiently messed up as
>>to allow this to happen. This could be done by multiple displacements
>>within a fairly short period of time, often wreaking havoc on the
>>person's sanity. Suffice it to say, the judgment of these individuals
>>is often questionable.
>
>Now I understand why UF-Doc is so bizarre. It makes much sense now.

Why, Meph...why would you think that? ;-)

Truthfully, UF Doc isn't nearly as bizarre as, say, Lord F. In fact, once you take away the whole time/dimensional traveler/immortal doctor thing, and he's pretty much an ordinary guy...married to a humanized Salusian girl who happens to be distant royalty...with four immortal kids, a gun-crazy brother, and counts among his friends some of the most influential people in a military/para-military hierarchy (depending on when you ask).

Yup, just an ordinary guy. ;-)

--DocMui


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6. "RE: Funny thing occured to me"
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   LAST EDITED ON Oct-17-01 AT 04:19 PM (EDT)

>Just FYI, there are probably those who can tell when an individual is
>not within their native dimension. However, they tend to be
>exceedingly rare, often falling into one of two categories:

Maybe so. There are also those who can gather enough data to form fairly strong suspicions through more mundane observations. For example, if you were to ask Azalynn, she would tell you that they smell different. Not bad... pretty good actually... but different.

That may have more to do with the fact that (these) Cephireans aren't quite normal humans, though, and not the dimensional displacement per se.

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