To be fair, she's hardly cornered the market on weird-looking accessories. The pre-refit Kongō class appear to be wearing headpieces whose primary components are a pair of large Philips screwdriver bits. (I guess they're supposed to be radar aerials?)

>So I'd say that hell, any relationship does better when it starts with
>a common interest...

True. And she does seem like the sort of gal who would be a solid wingman if you could get her on side in the first place. I just suspect it would be nervous-making to try and outline the principle of "sharing is caring" to a battery of 410mm naval guns, is all. :)

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Somewhere beneath all those turrets, Ise and Hyuuga are carrying katanas. I'm not sure how either of them would even draw the things, let alone get their guns far enough out of the way to actually hit somebody with the blade.

"This is probably a stupid question, but . . ."

She's my second-favorite character in the show.

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"V, did you do something foolish?"

"Yes, and it was glorious."

Almost everybody is my second-favorite character in the show. It's inconvenient. :)

(I have, for instance, developed an unseemly wuv for the entire Kongō class. And EilaShimakaze. Most of the destroyers. Carrier Division 1. Mogami. I don't even know why I love Mogami, she's had like 15 seconds of screen time in the 10 eps I've watched so far, I just do. Maybe it's the shorts.)

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It is a very likable cast, though...

> Carrier Division 1.

...I'll have to part ways with you here. I like Akagi as much as the next guy, but honestly, Zuikaku's right. Kaga is a vicious sneering bully every time she can find an excuse to be; only the fact that she's Great Stone Face about it keeps it from being obvious.

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"V, did you do something foolish?"

"Yes, and it was glorious."

See, I thought that too? Until I realized that Zuikaku spends every waking moment engaged in blatant provocation of the most petty and irritating kind. So now I'm kind of undecided, because yeah, Kaga is an unremitting bitch to her, but on the other hand, she works hard to earn it. Maybe what really needs to happen is for Akagi and Shokaku to team up and let the other two go enjoy their toxic, spite-filled distaff bromance someplace where the rest of us don't have to watch them. :)

Also: Atago! I forgot to mention Atago. Which is admittedly not that hard given the paucity of her screen time, but still, it's such a refreshing change to meet a Takao-class heavy cruiser who's just nice. :)

(This version of Takao might be as well, I don't know. She doesn't say enough to get a read on.)

I'm not sure about Yandere-class torpedo cruiser over there, though. That one's gonna be trouble. :)

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I could swear I remember Z trying to bury the hatchet once or twice and getting it thrown back at her, but my memory is flaky at the best of times.

> Maybe what really needs to happen is for Akagi
>and Shokaku to team up and let the other two go enjoy their toxic,
>spite-filled distaff bromance someplace where the rest of us don't
>have to watch them. :)

I could sign on for that ship, yeah.

>Also: Atago! I forgot to mention Atago. Which is admittedly not that
>hard given the paucity of her screen time, but still, it's such a
>refreshing change to meet a Takao-class heavy cruiser who's
>just nice. :)

Pan-paka-paaaan!

>(This version of Takao might be as well, I don't know. She doesn't
>say enough to get a read on.)

If I recall my doujin right, Atago's kind of an airhead, however pleasant a one, and Takao's the one in the background sighing and getting ready to clean up her mess.

>I'm not sure about Yandere-class torpedo cruiser over there,
>though. That one's gonna be trouble. :)

Well, Kitakami is obviously deliberately winding her up at several points, so apparently she thinks that psycho stalkers are cute or something. I'd say that they deserve each other.

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"V, did you do something foolish?"

"Yes, and it was glorious."

The writers pretended to resolve the issue at the end of one episode, then randomly brought it back in a later one when they had a couple of minutes to fill and evidently couldn't think of any other convenient way to fill them with resentment and jealousy. I guess they were only pretending to have become able to stand each other in order to humor Fubuki? w/e, guys.

It's a shame, too, because I know they were reaching for the historical reference there - the real-life Carrier Groups 1 and 5 had a pretty nasty rivalry - but it's not really in keeping with the rest of the show's theme, and sticking to it anyway seems kind of in bad taste. (I've seen some artwork where they seem to have more of a mildly sarcastic senpai-kōhai relationship, which is kind of cute, and grates less than Mutually Assured Disrespect.) Better, if they were going to do the "I hate Carrier Group 1" shtick at all, to let it stay resolved mid-series; better still would've been to just go ahead and use a K-Z friendship as a mechanism for exploring the idea that maybe the fleet girls aren't slaves to their namesakes' destinies.

But, you know, that's probably the point at which I start expecting too much of light entertainment programming. :)

>> Maybe what really needs to happen is for Akagi
>>and Shokaku to team up and let the other two go enjoy their toxic,
>>spite-filled distaff bromance someplace where the rest of us don't
>>have to watch them. :)
>
>I could sign on for that ship, yeah.

Huh? Oh. I didn't mean - I actually just meant team up, I wasn't thinking of that. Besides, it would break poor Fubuki's heart. :)

>>I'm not sure about Yandere-class torpedo cruiser over there,
>>though. That one's gonna be trouble. :)
>
>Well, Kitakami is obviously deliberately winding her up at several
>points, so apparently she thinks that psycho stalkers are cute or
>something. I'd say that they deserve each other.

I'll be generous and assume that she doesn't really understand that she's juggling hand grenades. :)

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Well, you can't really blame the writers, because they're just working with the source material, where yes, the whole K-Z business boil down to the historical rivalry between the 1st and 5th Carrier Divisions. Really, if it helps to make sense, think of them as basically being the carrier equivalents of Rei and Asuka. Kaga is the kuudere who's bad at expressing her emotions, while Zuikaku is the tsundere who is hiding her own doubts about her abilities and her feelings of inferiority behind bravado and a hair trigger temper.

>I'll be generous and assume that she doesn't really understand
>that she's juggling hand grenades. :)

Believe it or not, this Ooi is actually very tame compared to how she used to be depicted. That probably has a lot to do with the introduction of the (provisional) marriage system, which has led to her being strictly Kitakami-sexual to more "It's okay if it's you" with admirals. She's still totally devoted to her first love, but she no longer threatens to torpedo admirals who get too friendly with Kitakami.

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I can blame them for pretending to resolve it and then walking it back, at least. :)

>Really, if it helps to make sense, think of them as basically being
>the carrier equivalents of Rei and Asuka.

... Which is kind of funny, since both Langley and Sōryū actually were aircraft carriers. Ayanami was a destroyer, though. (And - naturally! - the latter two already exist as KanColle characters.) Everydangbody in Evangelion is named after a WWII-era IJN ship. Heck, Maya Ibuki's named after two. :)

>She's still totally devoted to her first love,
>but she no longer threatens to torpedo admirals who get too friendly
>with Kitakami.

Which is good, since torpedoing admirals is probably against regulations.

(I'm fuzzy on how torpedoes even are a thing vs. fleet girls, since they don't actually have, you know... waterlines or anything; but, hey. :)

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To say nothing of what would happen should Yamato or Mushashi enter the room.

I hope Imperial Fusō Navy dogtags specify the wearer's blood type, is all I'm saying.

Although, actually, I still think Nagato would pose the greatest danger, if only because she'd probably mistake Yoshika for a destroyer and want to cuddle her.

--G.
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*as seen here

"This is probably a stupid question, but . . ."

"They... they really built this, this isn't a mockup or something."

"She put to sea this morning."

"Y'know... when I was 12, I helped my daddy build a bomb shelter in our basement because some damn fool parked a dozen chibis 90 miles off the coast of Florida. This thing could park a couple'a hundred of 'em off Washington or New York and no one would know a thing about it until it was all over."

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Yes, yes they did. And as you might imagine, she's quite popular, to the point where she got her own Christmas art, and was brought back in a "midboss" form for a later event, just so people could get more of her.

To make things better, if the anime keeps with its "historical parallel" bent, then the fleet to face off against her is going to consist of the 4 Akatsuki-class DDs, CV Ryuujou, and CV Jun'you, the alcoholic party carrier. I can't see that ending any way other than "she followed us home, can we keep her?"

"This is probably a stupid question, but . . ."

Oh, Destroyer Squadron 6, could you possibly get any more adorable?

Well, I suppose you could have Akatsuki from Log Horizon, but come to think of it, the destroyer of the same name has a similar coloration and some of the same hang-ups. :)

>CV Jun'you, the alcoholic party carrier.

I have no joke, I just like saying "the alcoholic party carrier". Although the mental image that gives me is more along the lines of "carrier" as in "of disease", such that basically everybody who comes into contact with her ends up with a bad case of party. Although carriers usually aren't affected by the malady they're carrying, by definition, so the metaphor isn't perfect. :)

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Didn't you already do that with the Borg? :)

Ebony the Black Dragon

"Life is like an anole. Sometimes it's green. Sometimes it's brown. But it's always a small Caribbean lizard."

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Well, it could be worse. I read one fic where "smurf" was used in a way that made me think of a stereotype gangbanger with an automatic censoring system.

Peter Eng
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"I'm gonna smurf that mothersmurfer up so bad, his smurfing grandchildren are gonna get kicked in the smurf when they're born."

"You're the kind of guy who would smurf a man in the smurf without even giving him the smurfing courtesy of a reacharound."

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The explanation I've seen for "poi" is that it's a word you tack onto the end of a sentence when you're unsure of what you're saying, which is supposed to reflect the uncertainty of Yūdachi's achievements during the First Naval Battle of Guadalcanal. The English equiv would be to pepper your speech with "like," which combines with her carefree personality to leave Yūdachi sounding like a Valley Girl.

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Heh, after posting that I looked at her page on the English-language KanColle wikia, and noticed that whoever translated her in-game dialogue there - possibly feeling that the "like" thing was either not a close enough analog or would just be too annoying, opted instead to append "-ish" to most of her adjectives. Which doesn't actually manage to be less annoying, so, no points for whoever made that decision. :)

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I guess it's a bit easier with ships like Ryūjō, who speaks in Kansai-ben, because most translators decided ages ago that the English equivalent is a Southern accent.

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Hang on, isn't that the Osaka dialect? I thought the pop analog for that was the Bugs Bunny/Groucho Marx/Harley Quinn Bensonhurst accent. I'm so out of touch.

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I've seen it both ways over the years, but translators seemed to settle awhile back on a Southern accent. Really, it goes either way, as Kansai-ben is a very informal, gruff sort of dialect, reflecting the fact that the region has traditionally been a major hub of commerce and trading. Thing is, her namesake was built in Yokohama and fitted out in Yokosuka, so she should speak with a Kantō accent. It's sort of like meeting a girl who lived all her life in Boston, but speaks like came from the Deep South.

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Well, you know. Sailors. They pick up all kinds of weird things.

(Which reminds me - I'm sure it's just a rating thing that they don't have one, but I would be very amused if there was a fleet girl who actually talked like... well, a fuckin' sailor, you know? There's the one who always calls the player "you shitty admiral," but apart from that... :)

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There was a doujin I encountered* where Inazuma was serving as secretary ship for a very, um, enthusiastically incompetent Admiral, leading to some gratuitously profane breakdowns, but I suppose that's less sailor-speak and more workplace-induced stress.

*I believe the doujin in question exists only as a linked thread of images on Notsafe!booru, which makes it rather difficult to present in any coherent manner.

"This is probably a stupid question, but . . ."

Well, the designers have never said where the accent came from, so the theory is she picked it up from one of her captains. Sort of like how Jun'yō is believed to have picked up her love of drinking from her third captain, who anonymously crashed a drinking party that the junior officers were holding on base the day before he was supposed to arrive to take command.

>(Which reminds me - I'm sure it's just a rating thing that they don't
>have one, but I would be very amused if there was a fleet girl who
>actually talked like... well, a fuckin' sailor, you know? There's the
>one who always calls the player "you shitty admiral," but apart from
>that... :)

Ah, Akebono, yeah, she definitely has a mouth on her. Though you're right, most of it is just verbally abusing the admiral. But, like several of the girls after the introduction of the (provisional) marriage system, it turns out she's just a tsundere with a very abrasive "tsun" side.

>15 bonus points if it was one of the adorable
>destroyers. Ikazuchi, say.

Really, could you imagine any of the girls from DesDev6 being that foul-mouthed?

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Hibiki/Верный. Easily. Russian, I'm told (on this very board, IIRC), has a whole sub-dialect that's so dirty it can get you arrested. :)

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Yeah, but only after you got her properly sloshed. The girl's just too reserved to ever go on a tear like that without a bit of vodka.

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... I'm not sure why, but you just gave me the image of Kongou turning up in one of those novelty British-propaganda-poster T-shirts reading "KEEP CALM AND GET HAMMERED".

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The only thing that makes the mental image funnier is imagining Arpeggio Kongou doing that.

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"I don't want to alarm you, Admiral, but I'm afraid Kongō and Kongō might have switched minds after that last photonic armor experiment."

"Oh, great. So now the one with incredible strength and weird gravity weapons is looking to jump me, and the one with a full suite of compact personal artillery is presumably shelling Anchorage in a fit of para-existential pique."

"Pretty much, yes."

"If anyone other than her is looking for me, I'll be in the Secret Nuclear Bunker."

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Wonder no more.

http://danbooru.donmai.us/pools/8213?page=1

I've often thought it was a shame that anime is dubbed into American and not British English. Translating the Tokyo accent as RP, and Kansai-ben as Scouse or Geordie, would be much more accurate...

Though it could always be worse, a couple times in the anime (and other works), Yuudachi ends up sounding more like she's related to Mokona from MKR.

"This is probably a stupid question, but . . ."

And then a naval intelligence officer named Yvonne Swanson gets involved to try and find out why the Kanmusu aren't responding to US summons for help, and things get... interesting.

You can check it out at https://www.fanfiction.net/s/11187030/1/Kantai-Collection-The-Greatest-Generation , and tvtropes has links to its in progress threads at http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Fanfic/TheGreatestGeneration. It's ongoing, though.

I just figured you meant it as another entry in the "if you're scarred from the grimdark" column, although upon further review of your summary, I can see why that might not be the case. :)

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"This is probably a stupid question, but . . ."

Just better at hiding it.

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although compared to Ooi's antics, firing off a 21-gun salute every time something happened in somebody's love life would be subtle.
"This is probably a stupid question, but . . ."

Well, in fairness, part of the subtlety is just a side effect of Kaga's chronic inability to display emotions, but, yes. :)

>although compared to Ooi's antics, firing off a 21-gun salute
>every time something happened in somebody's love life would be
>subtle.

... Kongō would do that.

You know it's true.

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So who has the handgun that shoots through schools?

They're naval warships.

The only answer is "all of them".

Except the one that got deported to Italy and wasn't even from there.

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"You shouldn't hang me on a hook, Kongō," Musashi growled. "My last admiral hung me on a hook once. Once."

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