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Polychrome
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"SotS 5 comments"
 
   For some reason the song "Once bitten twice shy" by Great White makes me think of AoN.

> Kate played another of her Joe-like compositions, a soaring
>anthem called "Friends" that she dedicated, through Azalynn, to "all
>our friends who've joined us this year from far away." Then she went
>back to her keyboards, Miki emerged from the pit to man the second
>bank of boards off to her right, and they finished up the show with,
>of all things, a heavy metal version of "The Carol of the Bells".
>Azalynn explained that they were playing a Christmas song in March
>because Kate liked it, "because it's the only Christmas carol any of
>us can think of in a minor key."

That's also why it's the only good one.

Any significance to the 1HW's registration number?

I think this has been answered elsewhere, but I'll ask anyway: What is Devlin's telelpath rating?
(assuming he was rated)

My curiosity about Mia's past has certainly been piqued.

I was half expecting a fight to break out at the Formal, given that the IDF and Corwin came armed,
but then a again, fights never start when you're ready for them.

> "T'skaia Vorokoshiga'ar Ixtixtaaqitl't'chl'Vraihelt Ishkarat
>of Barsaive, and Miss Mia Ausa!"
> This announcement was, after all, quite a remarkable
>achievement. The only other being Kate had ever heard pronounce
>T'skaia's full name correctly was T'skaia himself.

Given the man some credit, he is a linguist.

> "Sure. People do it all the time. Dad's got a -castle- on
>Titan," Corwin told her.
> "The moon of Saturn?"
> "The same."
> "Wow. Is it on the side you can see Saturn from?"
> "Sure is."
> "-That- must be -something-."

Unfortunately, Titan is not tide-locked like Luna and, unless it has been terraformed,
has a dense cloud cover which would make seeing Saturn rather difficult.

But, all in all, a damn fine piece of work.

Always ready for more,
Polychrome


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Ardaniel
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1. "RE: SotS 5 comments"
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   >I think this has been answered elsewhere, but I'll ask anyway: What is
>Devlin's telelpath rating?
>(assuming he was rated)

On a cursory check of released material, I don't think this has been stated yet. It might have been stated in the forums; I'm too lazy to check.

Your other point has been addressed, however:

>Unfortunately, Titan is not tide-locked like Luna and, unless it has
>been terraformed,
>has a dense cloud cover which would make seeing Saturn rather
>difficult.

From the very same Fifth Movement:


"On the other hand," Corwin went on thoughtfully, "there's
something to be said for terraforming. Titan was a toxic swamp; now
it's a beautiful forest planet with a ringed gas giant hanging in half
the sky. It rains a lot on the northern continent, but it's so
pretty. When I was six, Mom took me sailing on the Tsiolkovskiy Sea.
Saturn half-sunk in the glassy calm, reflected back on itself, with
our catamaran sailing through the rings... " He sighed. "There are
so many beautiful things, so many wonders in this life. Saturn. The
Denorios Belt. Black Hole X-21. The Aurora Asgardis. The Ice
Castles of Alfheim... "

Ardie

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2. "RE: SotS 5 comments"
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All I have to say is:


With a magnet?!?!?!?!
<snarf>

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3. "RE: SotS 5 comments"
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   >Any significance to the 1HW's registration number?

Yes.

>I think this has been answered elsewhere, but I'll ask anyway: What is
>Devlin's telelpath rating?

Secret.

>I was half expecting a fight to break out at the Formal, given that
>the IDF and Corwin came armed,

Too obvious.

>Unfortunately, Titan is not tide-locked like Luna and, unless it has
>been terraformed,
>has a dense cloud cover which would make seeing Saturn rather
>difficult.

Titan has been terraformed (it's mentioned a little later on). As for its rotation, I had thought that it did always show the same face to Saturn, but my astronomy class was admittedly eight years ago now; and if it doesn't, so much the better, really.

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4. "RE: SotS 5 comments"
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   >>Unfortunately, Titan is not tide-locked like Luna and, unless it has
>>been terraformed,
>>has a dense cloud cover which would make seeing Saturn rather
>>difficult.
>
>Titan has been terraformed (it's mentioned a little later on). As for
>its rotation, I had thought that it did always show the same
>face to Saturn, but my astronomy class was admittedly eight years ago
>now; and if it doesn't, so much the better, really.

It does. (Incidentally, Gryph, if you have astronomy questions you want to ask, feel free to e-mail me. I realize that you don't want to make UF hard SF, but I thought I'd make the offer.)

And just to get this back on topic... interesting how Liza Broadbank is turning out. My number one question(s) for SoS6... what does she know (or think she knows), and how does she know (or think she knows) it?

I can't see at this point how she could know about Devlin, or even suspect. However, she might, given Kate's performance when she rescued Liza, think Kate is a telepath. Of course, she isn't, at least not in any way the Psi Corps would recognize, but it almost doesn't matter. If Tremayne directs sustained attention at the IDS and Friends, I don't think Devlin's secret is long for this world. Hiding yourself from a P5 commercial telepath is one thing; hiding yourself from a P12 Psi Cop is something else entirely. And somehow I suspect that Devlin's friends aren't going to just sit there and let the Psi Cops drag him off, unless they come in absolutely overwhelming force.*

And now I wait with bated breath to find out how wrong I am... :)

*And why would they, unless they make a general policy of it? As far as the Corps knows, these are just a bunch of kids who like to play with swords (although they might expect some trouble from Amanda).

Eric J. Heckathorn
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5. "RE: SotS 5 comments"
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   >And just to get this back on topic... interesting how Liza Broadbank
>is turning out. My number one question(s) for SoS6... what does she
>know (or think she knows), and how does she know (or think she knows)
>it?

Why.. who ever said that Liza was going to offer up Devlin as a lamb to the Psicop slaughter? I suspect that the Goonsquad would haul in anybody accused of being a Blip and give em a thorough drycleaning.

And just think of the Duellists who have things to hide...

Berk Watkins
Student of Quantum Bogodynamics...

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6. "RE: SotS 5 comments"
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>
>*And why would they, unless they make a general policy of it? As far
>as the Corps knows, these are just a bunch of kids who like to play
>with swords (although they might expect some trouble from Amanda).


Personally, regardless of what MegaZone said about just how elite and dangerous the armed combatants of Psi-Corps are, I would hate to go against the Symphony of the Sword protagonists in close-quarters combat. Hell, even some of my characters that I have developed for my own stories would be hesitant. Most obvious is all the steel they carry, second would be the above-average strength that Moose possesses (I have no real idea what a Hoffmanite is, but living on a 3-G planet, ergh!) Amanda's military training and I don't think Azalyn's a push-over in a fight. Needless to say, if the Psi-Cops do try to get physical, I don't envy them.


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7. "RE: SotS 5 comments"
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   >Personally, regardless of what MegaZone said about just how elite and
>dangerous the armed combatants of Psi-Corps are, I would hate to go
>against the Symphony of the Sword protagonists in close-quarters
>combat. Hell, even some of my characters that I have developed for my
>own stories would be hesitant. Most obvious is all the steel they
>carry, second would be the above-average strength that Moose possesses
>(I have no real idea what a Hoffmanite is, but living on a 3-G planet,
>ergh!) Amanda's military training and I don't think Azalyn's a
>push-over in a fight. Needless to say, if the Psi-Cops do try to get
>physical, I don't envy them.

I don't think you're giving PsiCorps enough credit. Whatever else Kaitlyn is, they are non-Terrans. Kaitlyn is the eldest daughter of one of the most powerful men in the Universe. To simply abscond with her would incite serious repercussions between Earthdome and a number of organizations, governments, and pantheons. PsiCorps are aware of at least the first two. If they move against her, they'll move when they're prepared for the full consequences. They seem to have that much intelligence directing them.

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8. "RE: SotS 5 comments"
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>
>I don't think you're giving PsiCorps enough credit. Whatever else
>Kaitlyn is, they are non-Terrans. Kaitlyn is the eldest daughter of
>one of the most powerful men in the Universe. To simply abscond with
>her would incite serious repercussions between Earthdome and a number
>of organizations, governments, and pantheons. PsiCorps are aware of
>at least the first two. If they move against her, they'll move when
>they're prepared for the full consequences. They seem to have that
>much intelligence directing them.

Pity, isn't it? I would love to see such an organization as the PsiCorps get their butts kicked good. Such groups like them leave a bitter taste in my mouth. If I had my Vanished Knights characters involved in the Undocumented Features universe, they wouldn't hesitate to go after them. Oh well, nice little fantasy for me, anyway. :)


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9. "RE: SotS 5 comments"
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   >I don't think you're giving PsiCorps enough credit. Whatever else
>Kaitlyn is, they are non-Terrans. Kaitlyn is the eldest daughter of
>one of the most powerful men in the Universe. To simply abscond with
>her would incite serious repercussions between Earthdome and a number
>of organizations, governments, and pantheons.

...that's not even mentioning the daughter of the Gamilon Emperor.

You just *can't* go messing with the relatives of foreign heads of state unless you really want to get hurt.

Ard

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10. "RE: SotS 5 comments"
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   >>Personally, regardless of what MegaZone said about just how elite and
>>dangerous the armed combatants of Psi-Corps are, I would hate to go
>>against the Symphony of the Sword protagonists in close-quarters
>>combat. Hell, even some of my characters that I have developed for my
>>own stories would be hesitant. Most obvious is all the steel they
>>carry, second would be the above-average strength that Moose possesses
>>(I have no real idea what a Hoffmanite is, but living on a 3-G planet,
>>ergh!) Amanda's military training and I don't think Azalyn's a
>>push-over in a fight. Needless to say, if the Psi-Cops do try to get
>>physical, I don't envy them.
>
>I don't think you're giving PsiCorps enough credit. Whatever else
>Kaitlyn is, they are non-Terrans. Kaitlyn is the eldest daughter of
>one of the most powerful men in the Universe. To simply abscond with
>her would incite serious repercussions between Earthdome and a number
>of organizations, governments, and pantheons. PsiCorps are aware of
>at least the first two. If they move against her, they'll move when
>they're prepared for the full consequences. They seem to have that
>much intelligence directing them.

They'd certainly have all their legal documentation set up. I mean sure, Amanda's dad would be PO'ed if Amanda got stunned (or whatever they call the non-lethal setting of a PPG) but if they can say "Yes we did stun her but she was obstructing the arrest of a rogue telepath who is: a) a citizen of the Earth Alliance, b) resident of the Earth Alliance and thus c) subject to our laws regarding registration of telepaths." then he'd not have a leg to stand on. Now if the PsiCops went in with PPGs on a lethal setting, that's another matter.

I have to admit, when the P5 met Utena, I was hoping she'd probe and come into contact with Dios. I figure it'd be either "why's there a guy inside her head?" or the telepath gets smacked across the room by fedback. Even with Utena's limiter that'd be like jamming her finger into a plug socket. And it'd be interesting seeing the P5 try to explain how that happened without admitting to that little bit of mind-molesting. One of the few good things about the Corps is that they take that sort of thing seriously - except when they're doing it unfortunately.

BTW: I have serious doubts about Broadbitch knowing what the psicops are there for anyway. They didn't exactly hang up a sign saying "Hi, we're looking for a blip". And Liza definitely deserves the broadbitch nickname after what she did to Kate and Juri - I mean, have some maturity, please.


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11. "RE: SotS 5 comments"
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   >Needless to say, if the Psi-Cops do try to
>get physical, I don't envy them.

They won't get physical. They would probably try and scan them. That's when the fun starts. Several of the Duelists have been to hell and back, and their minds are still recovering from it. A Psi Cop poking around in there would probably go mad, unless they have exceptional training. Then there's Dios to deal with if they look into Utena's mind.

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12. "RE: SotS 5 comments"
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   >>Needless to say, if the Psi-Cops do try to
>>get physical, I don't envy them.
>
>They won't get physical. They would probably try and scan them. That's
>when the fun starts. Several of the Duelists have been to hell and
>back, and their minds are still recovering from it. A Psi Cop poking
>around in there would probably go mad, unless they have exceptional
>training. Then there's Dios to deal with if they look into Utena's
>mind.
>
>Matrix Dragon


Hmm, now that puts an amusing scenario in my mind!Sheer chaos........


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14. "RE: SotS 5 comments"
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   >Hmm, now that puts an amusing scenario in
>my mind!Sheer chaos........

Sheer Chaos my ass. I'm guessing that anyone that scanned Saionji would probably end up mad, and anyone dumb enough to pry into Utena's mind would get killed by the feedback of an extremely pissed-off Dios. I still love the Exile story (can't remember the name) where someone went into Zoners mind and ended up a vegetable.

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15. "RE: SotS 5 comments"
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   >>Hmm, now that puts an amusing scenario in
>>my mind!Sheer chaos........
>
>Sheer Chaos my ass. I'm guessing that anyone that scanned Saionji
>would probably end up mad, and anyone dumb enough to pry into Utena's
>mind would get killed by the feedback of an extremely pissed-off Dios.
>I still love the Exile story (can't remember the name) where someone
>went into Zoners mind and ended up a vegetable.
>
>Matrix Dragon


I think it's called Heartbreak, IMHO a very touching story. Don't like the sheer chaos line? Sorry.


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16. "RE: SotS 5 comments"
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   >I think it's called Heartbreak, IMHO a very touching story.
>Don't like the sheer chaos line? Sorry.

I knew it was something like that. Thanks. And I liked the sheer chaos line, it's just that I don't think it would happen... at first anyway.

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17. "RE: SotS 5 comments"
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   >>I think it's called Heartbreak, IMHO a very touching story.
>>Don't like the sheer chaos line? Sorry.
>
>I knew it was something like that. Thanks. And I liked the sheer chaos
>line, it's just that I don't think it would happen... at first anyway.
>
>Matrix Dragon


It would happen eventually if such a scenario went down, and I love the chaos! I think I'll shut up now.


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21. "RE: SotS 5 comments"
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   Errr, any psi cop worth their salt is trained to scan and defend against assaults in and around alien minds, let alone mad ones. And, any psi training program worth its salt (which they likely qualify for due to the fact that they have all sort of neat internal controls and blocks embedded in them) includes a mental monitor which will seal off things which make a brain go fugue or psychotic for later, safer recovery...

'Course, Dios is still a threat. And the fact that most of the people in the story have significant mental defenses, regardless...

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24. "RE: SotS 5 comments"
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   >Errr, any psi cop worth their salt is trained to scan and defend
>against assaults in and around alien minds, let alone mad ones.
>And, any psi training program worth its salt (which they likely
>qualify for due to the fact that they have all sort of neat internal
>controls and blocks embedded in them) includes a mental monitor which
>will seal off things which make a brain go fugue or psychotic for
>later, safer recovery...
>
>'Course, Dios is still a threat. And the fact that most of the people
>in the story have significant mental defenses, regardless...
>

I wonder how the psi cop would react if he were to scan Corwin ...

Psi-cop: Oh my ...god...
Corwin: Exactly .

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25. "RE: SotS 5 comments"
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   >I wonder how the psi cop would react if he were to scan Corwin ...

AFAIK, you can't scan a god unless they *let* you. :) And even then, what you're gonna get is limited to what you can handle without blowing out your sanity...

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26. "RE: SotS 5 comments"
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   >>I wonder how the psi cop would react if he were to scan Corwin ...
>AFAIK, you can't scan a god unless they *let* you. :) And even then,
>what you're gonna get is limited to what you can handle without
>blowing out your sanity...

Unless, of course, the deity in question WANTS to give you the full tour. In which case, your mind will either be immeasurably expanded from the knowledge... or destroyed by it.

Corwin doesn't seem the the vengeful type, but depending on the situation, who can tell?


"He's just a child, LeClercq. What can his mind hold that can scare me?"
<psi-entry>
"No......"
His head hit the floor with the peculiar hollow sound of a dead man's. Even though he was stil breathing, there was nothing behind his eyes.

--
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(They won't give me LARTs, they say that's restricted to Michael.)

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28. "RE: SotS 5 comments"
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   Yep. exactly what you said, except...

>


>His head hit the floor with the peculiar hollow sound of a dead man's.
> Even though he was stil breathing, there was nothing behind his eyes.
>

...this part caused me to shatter. Seen the Far Side strip where "the coconut-like sound of their heads colliding secretly delighted the bird?" ;)

Ard
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31. "RE: SotS 5 comments"
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   >>I wonder how the psi cop would react if he were to scan Corwin ...
>
>AFAIK, you can't scan a god unless they *let* you. :) And even then,
>what you're gonna get is limited to what you can handle without
>blowing out your sanity...

That's as may be, but you should probably keep in mind that Corwin isn't a god yet.

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33. "RE: SotS 5 comments"
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   >That's as may be, but you should probably keep in mind that Corwin
>isn't a god yet.
>
>--G.

Make certain that Corwin is mindful of this when he meets the Sta-Puft Marshmallow Man...

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34. "RE: SotS 5 comments"
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   LAST EDITED ON Oct-31-01 AT 11:32 PM (EST)

>>That's as may be, but you should probably keep in mind that Corwin
>>isn't a god yet.

>Make certain that Corwin is mindful of this when he meets the Sta-Puft
>Marshmallow Man...

"G'Kron, the next time someone asks you, 'are you a God?', you say YES!!"

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35. "RE: SotS 5 comments"
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   >That's as may be, but you should probably keep in mind that Corwin
>isn't a god yet.

Not to contradict the almighty author or anything, but neither are Vorlons, and I really wouldn't wanna go poking about in their heads either...

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36. "RE: SotS 5 comments"
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   >>That's as may be, but you should probably keep in mind that Corwin
>>isn't a god yet.
>
>Not to contradict the almighty author or anything, but neither are
>Vorlons, and I really wouldn't wanna go poking about in their heads
>either...

Vorlons are dangerous to contact telepathically because they're incredibly alien beings, not because they're powerful creatures, per se.

Corwin Ravenhair's is not an unfathomable alien consciousness. :)

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37. "RE: SotS 5 comments"
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   >>Not to contradict the almighty author or anything, but neither are
>>Vorlons, and I really wouldn't wanna go poking about in their heads
>>either...
>
>Vorlons are dangerous to contact telepathically because they're
>incredibly alien beings, not because they're powerful creatures, per
>se.
>
>Corwin Ravenhair's is not an unfathomable alien consciousness. :)

I dunno, my thought processes were fairly unfathomable at 14... ;-)

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39. "RE: SotS 5 comments"
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   Gryph said:

>Corwin Ravenhair's is not an unfathomable alien consciousness. :)


...I think it'd probably depend on the teep doing the scanning. The Psi Corps might want to have a few P12 engineers and auto racers on hand for that day, should it ever arrive. :)

Admittedly, Corwin is not such an alien consciousness to me, despite being a 14-year-old boy... but Gryph knows who I live with, and can thus attest that I have practice with unfathomable consciousnesses who are obsessed with technology. ;)

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38. "RE: SotS 5 comments"
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>Personally, regardless of what MegaZone said about just how elite and
>dangerous the armed combatants of Psi-Corps are, I would hate to go
>against the Symphony of the Sword protagonists in close-quarters
>combat.

Personally, I think the largest problem the combat rated Psi Cops would have is that with the Duelests in HtH is that there is very little to no lead time in the thought process to use as a warning. That is the main reason a psionic is so effective in combat, they read your moves before you make them. Though strictly speaking Dorothy would be near absolute murder in this respect, no thoughts to read and her android strength, if she ever had cause to cut loose. Kate would be the one I can see giving them the absolute most trouble. Her training and zanshin(sp?) would be a great equalizer. Utena's "power" and enchanted blade, Mia's magic and whatever it is that Sky does would be the next in line for throwing the Psi Cops a curve. Moose for all his strenght hasn't been mentioned as having any combat training. Of the rest of the crew G'kron is in a bit of a fix, but Mac he's a mystery. He's shown a few flashes of something though I don't know what.

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13. "RE: SotS 5 comments"
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   >I can't see at this point how she could know about Devlin, or even
>suspect. However, she might, given Kate's performance when she rescued
>Liza, think Kate is a telepath. Of course, she isn't, at least
>not in any way the Psi Corps would recognize, but it almost doesn't
>matter. If Tremayne directs sustained attention at the IDS and
>Friends, I don't think Devlin's secret is long for this world. Hiding
>yourself from a P5 commercial telepath is one thing; hiding yourself
>from a P12 Psi Cop is something else entirely. And somehow I suspect
>that Devlin's friends aren't going to just sit there and let the Psi
>Cops drag him off, unless they come in absolutely overwhelming force.*

I think Liza narcked on Kate to the Psi-cops purely out of spite, if Kate's who Liza tells Tremayne he's looking for. Liza thinks she owes Kate big time, she can't understand why Kate would save her except to hold it over her head. So denouncing her as blip is Liza's way of making sure Kate never tells anyone about what happened in the parking lot. At least that's my theory. And if the Psi Corps does their gloves on Kate, for their sake I hope Corwin doesn't find out (and he will :)) He'd probably go Ragnarok on their asses. He'd probably assist in the recovery efforts if any member of IBGF/IDS was bagged by the Corps.

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18. "RE: SotS 5 comments"
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   >Kate's who Liza tells Tremayne he's looking for. Liza thinks she owes
>Kate big time, she can't understand why Kate would save her except to
>hold it over her head. So denouncing her as blip is Liza's way of
>making sure Kate never tells anyone about what happened in the parking
>lot. At least that's my theory

Point. Also, if I'm remembering right, at that point she's still half blasted. _Not_ the most rational state of mind.

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19. "RE: SotS 5 comments"
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   >My number one question(s) for SoS6... what does she
>know (or think she knows), and how does she know (or think she knows)
>it?

Yes... that is interesting to consider, isn't it? :)

>I can't see at this point how she could know about Devlin, or even
>suspect.

No... you can't, can you? :)

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20. "RE: SotS 5 comments"
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   >No... you can't, can you? :)

Unless Liza happens to be a telepath herself. Now that would be interesting.

While I'm thinking of it, two questions:

1) Do non-EA telepaths in EA jurisdiction have to wear a obvious symbol of some sort, or do they just have to carry a special ID card?

2) What is the legal status concerning telepaths in the Republic of Zeta Cygni?

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23. "RE: SotS 5 comments"
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   >1) Do non-EA telepaths in EA jurisdiction have to wear a obvious
>symbol of some sort, or do they just have to carry a special ID card?

That's been a point of very heated contention since the passage of the original Psi Act, but so far, only IDs.

>2) What is the legal status concerning telepaths in the Republic of
>Zeta Cygni?

We don't draw a distinction in the population. If you use a psionic power in the commission of a crime, it's treated more or less like assault with a dangerous weapon.

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30. "RE: SotS 5 comments"
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   >Unless Liza happens to be a telepath herself. Now that would be
>interesting.

Speaking of which...

---
"You don't know everything about me," Liza replied. She
seemed preoccupied, more so than usual, as she watched the Gamilon
princess and her companion move around the dance floor. Her blue eyes
were narrowed, and there was a small tremor at the corner of her
mouth.
---

Now that's interesting... as is Liza's little "headache".

I'm thinking we may have a newly manifested telepath on our hands here...

At any rate, that'll be the end of my speculations for right now.

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27. "RE: SotS 5 comments"
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   >No... you can't, can you? :)

Now, now. It's not fair to not give all the pieces of the puzzle. We have not seen any sort of interaction between Devlin and Liza; therefore we lack information on the issue.

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   >Remember: Gun on mantle in act 1, gun used in act 3.

Sometimes, the best place to hide something is in plain sight.

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32. "RE: SotS 5 comments"
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   >>No... you can't, can you? :)
>
>Now, now. It's not fair to not give all the pieces of the puzzle. We
>have not seen any sort of interaction between Devlin and Liza;
>therefore we lack information on the issue.
>
>Remember: Gun on mantle in act 1, gun used in act 3.

Just because you didn't notice the gun doesn't mean I didn't put it there...

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22. "RE: SotS 5 comments"
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   >And somehow I suspect
>that Devlin's friends aren't going to just sit there and let the Psi
>Cops drag him off, unless they come in absolutely overwhelming force.*

y'know I just thought about that. Even if the Psi Cops get Devlin the other could try to save him. In my mind it goes thomething like this:
Before the Psi Cops get Devlin Utena get her pilotlicense. They get the Daggerdisc. Utena piloting the 'Disc, Corwin piloting the 'Wonder G'Kron, Mac Ed and Ein at the guns. (Ein using some sort of cyberlink or something like that)Amanda and Ria getting themselfes some fighters with a Hyperspace-drive and then they get Devlin out of where ever the Psi Cops keep him.

Yea. I know. It's not gonna happen. But it's still a nice mental image. ^^

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