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"New Top Gear?"
 
   I saw last week on twitter that Zoner watched the first episode of the set series without Our Boys, anybody else seen it? Who's on it? He said something about...uh...LeBlanc! Matt LeBlanc. Is he a host?

Glad I remembered his name, I almost had to go 'Joey from Friends'.


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  Subject     Author     Message Date     ID  
  RE: New Top Gear? BeardedFerret Jun-03-16 1
     RE: New Top Gear? Gryphonadmin Jun-03-16 2
     RE: New Top Gear? Mercutio Jun-03-16 3
         RE: New Top Gear? Gryphonadmin Jun-03-16 4
     RE: New Top Gear? Kendra Kirai Jun-03-16 5
         RE: New Top Gear? ratinoxteam Jun-03-16 6
             RE: New Top Gear? Gryphonadmin Jun-03-16 7
         RE: New Top Gear? Mephronmoderator Jun-04-16 10
             RE: New Top Gear? Kendra Kirai Jun-04-16 11
  RE: New Top Gear? drakensis Jun-04-16 8
  RE: New Top Gear? Wiregeek Jun-04-16 9
  RE: New Top Gear? ratinoxteam Jun-20-16 12
     RE: New Top Gear? MoonEyes Jun-21-16 13
         RE: New Top Gear? ratinoxteam Jun-21-16 14
  RE: New Top Gear? MoonEyes Jun-24-16 15
     RE: New Top Gear? drakensis Jun-25-16 16
  RE: New Top Gear? ratinoxteam Jul-04-16 17
     RE: New Top Gear? Kendra Kirai Jul-04-16 18
         RE: New Top Gear? drakensis Jul-05-16 19
             RE: New Top Gear? Pasha Jul-06-16 21
                 RE: New Top Gear? ratinoxteam Jul-06-16 22
     RE: New Top Gear? BeardedFerret Jul-06-16 20
         RE: New Top Gear? Gryphonadmin Jul-06-16 23

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BeardedFerret
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1. "RE: New Top Gear?"
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   The consensus from reviews I've seen seems to be that Joey from Friends is quite good and enthusiastic, Sabine the German Driver is amazing and Chris Evans is abysmal and brings the whole thing down.


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2. "RE: New Top Gear?"
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   >The consensus from reviews I've seen seems to be that Joey from
>Friends is quite good and enthusiastic, Sabine the German Driver is
>amazing and Chris Evans is abysmal and brings the whole thing down.

Which maps pretty exactly to how each of them was in his or her own individual appearances on the old one.

(Evans is a drive-time radio DJ, FFS. His only qualifications for hosting Top Gear* are that he's very rich and owns a lot of expensive cars, and hell, the Sultan of Brunei has the same qualifications. I guess he was unavailable, which is too bad, since I hear he's more charismatic.)

--G.
* having had Billie Piper, while impressive for a man with that face, is not strictly speaking a qualification for hosting Top Gear, however much Clarkson visibly wished it was when she was on the show
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3. "RE: New Top Gear?"
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   >The consensus from reviews I've seen seems to be that Joey from
>Friends is quite good and enthusiastic, Sabine the German Driver is
>amazing and Chris Evans is abysmal and brings the whole thing down.

Captain America has really let himself go.

(Oh hush. You were all thinking of making this sort of joke. I just got here first.)

-Merc
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Gryphonadmin
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4. "RE: New Top Gear?"
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   >>The consensus from reviews I've seen seems to be that Joey from
>>Friends is quite good and enthusiastic, Sabine the German Driver is
>>amazing and Chris Evans is abysmal and brings the whole thing down.
>
>Captain America has really let himself go.
>
>(Oh hush. You were all thinking of making this sort of joke. I just
>got here first.)

You so didn't, though. Simon made a joke based on that coincidence on a Yogs video from years ago. :)

(Paraphrased from memory: "That was Billie Piper sang that. Remember her, when she was a songstress? When she was 17 years old and dating Chris Evans. No, not THAT Chris Evans. The other one. The ginger one. What a decision.")

--G.
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Kendra Kirai
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5. "RE: New Top Gear?"
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   >The consensus from reviews I've seen seems to be that Joey from
>Friends is quite good and enthusiastic, Sabine the German Driver is
>amazing and Chris Evans is abysmal and brings the whole thing down.

Really? Zoner said something like he was trying way too hard. Like 'you're a yank in England, we get it' were his words, I believe.


Incidentally, I wish Netflix had further back than five series, I really wanna see the older stuff, like from the far off times of *2009*.


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6. "RE: New Top Gear?"
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   Essentially, yes (copied from my post in another forum):

Top Gear Mk.1 is kinda dull if you're not a full-on gearhead. If you've seen Fifth Gear? That's what Top Gear Mk.1 was (in fact, Fifth Gear is a continuation of the original Top Gear).

Top Gear Mk.2 started over from scratch. It was still a motoring show but it also wanted to be an entertaining show. It took the show 2 or 3 series -- and replacing first series presenter Jason Dawe with James May -- to figure out how to make that happen and find their groove. And they did make it happen and they did find their groove. And they wore that groove into a rut. By series 20 the show had gotten stale and repetitive, but the chemistry between the presenters at least kept it entertaining.

Which brings me to Top Gear Mk.3. The first episode of Top Gear Mk.2 starts with some driving footage with a voice over by Clarkson informing viewers that the new show is definitively not the old one. The first episode of Top Gear Mk.3 starts with what Mk.2 series 23 might have been had it been Clarkson/Hammond/May (The Lads) but with a different cast, a cast lacking the chemistry that The Lads had built over a decade of making Top Gear Mk.2.

It didn't work. It tried too hard to be Top Gear Mk.2 and didn't try hard enough to be itself.

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7. "RE: New Top Gear?"
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   >Top Gear Mk.1 is kinda dull if you're not a full-on gearhead. If
>you've seen Fifth Gear? That's what Top Gear Mk.1 was (in fact, Fifth
>Gear is a continuation of the original Top Gear).

Except for the season when they tried to reinvent it as a direct competitor to Top Gear Mk II. That was so awful the show got canceled.

--G.
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10. "RE: New Top Gear?"
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   >Incidentally, I wish Netflix had further back than five series, I
>really wanna see the older stuff, like from the far off times of
>*2009*.

Hulu's got most of the rest.
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Kendra Kirai
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11. "RE: New Top Gear?"
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   LAST EDITED ON Jun-05-16 AT 00:06 AM (EDT)
 
That's neat, but I'm in Canada, so that does me exactly dick. On top of the fact that Hulu is shit. I had it for a while because shenanigans, and paying for ads is unacceptable in a video on demand service.

EDIT: I realized that sounded rather ungrateful and aggressive, and I didn't mean it that way. Thanks, Meph, and I didn't mean to direct any of that ire at you, my hate is pointed square at Hulu.


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8. "RE: New Top Gear?"
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   I thought LeBlanc was entertaining. Sabine was barely used but could be interesting. Evans wasn't terrible but wasn't as entertaining as LeBlanc.

Of the material used in the episode, the dog-fighting in the supercars was very much the sort of thing that could have happened in the old show and was fairly entertaining. The escape the paparazi film was something that probably wouldn't have worked with any of the previous hosts but did work very well with LeBlanc.

I think they're still finding their feet but there's enough hits among the misses that I'll watch the next episode and see how it does.

D.


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9. "RE: New Top Gear?"
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   My favorite thing about Top Gear Mk III is that everybody seems to have forgotten that Top Gear Mk II was absolutely horrible rubbish for quite a while. They're expecting the new hosts to instantly have the charisma that The Boys developed over _years_.

And we have The Grand Tour! What a wonderful world we live in.

Some say he is incapable of understanding cheese, and has been banned from export from New Avalon - all we know is, he's called The Stig.


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12. "RE: New Top Gear?"
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   I've seen episodes 2 and 3 now.

They're overall better than the first. Less effort spent trying to mimic the Mk.2 formula, more spent adapting it to the presenters' strengths.

Except maybe Chris Evans. I'm can't tell if the hyper-caffeinated shtick is intentional or a by-product of hyper-caffeination.

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13. "RE: New Top Gear?"
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   >Except maybe Chris Evans. I'm can't tell if the hyper-caffeinated
>shtick is intentional or a by-product of hyper-caffeination.

As far as I've been able to tell from what little I've watched/listened to Evans, it's partially natural and partially affected, as if he is suffering from ADD or something related, and is also acting in a way is if to emphasize it.

This is the primary reason I have avoided watching/listening to Evans.

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14. "RE: New Top Gear?"
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   >As far as I've been able to tell from what little I've
>watched/listened to Evans, it's partially natural and partially
>affected, as if he is suffering from ADD or something related, and is
>also acting in a way is if to emphasize it.

That would explain why his character feels a bit off to me. Skirting the shoulders of Uncanny Valley.

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15. "RE: New Top Gear?"
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   And now I'm kinda sad that the Lads aren't running the show anymore, beyond the obvious, because the Brits just voted themselves out of the EU, and I would LOVE to get their reaction to that, in all its glory.

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drakensis
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16. "RE: New Top Gear?"
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   I suspect it'll come up in Grand Tour, probably the first time they reach Europe.

May and Clarkson were fairly vocal on the Stay side of things: http://www.autoblog.com/2016/06/21/jeremy-clarkson-james-may-brexit-video/

D.


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17. "RE: New Top Gear?"
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   Chris Evans is leaving Top Gear:
http://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-36707266

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Kendra Kirai
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18. "RE: New Top Gear?"
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   From the sound of things, here should be much rejoicing.


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19. "RE: New Top Gear?"
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   Nothing personally against him but he wasn't working out in the show.

I can understand why they brought him on - name recognition, a journalistic background, etc. However, he just wasn't sufficiently entertaining as a lead presenter.

Matt LeBlanc brought a lot of charisma to the job, so hopefully he'll stay on. And he had decent chemistry with the older chap in the second-string presenter line up, Eddy, so that could work to hook things together. I think the show did well enough not to be cancelled and it can still find its feet.

D.


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21. "RE: New Top Gear?"
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   >Nothing personally against him but he wasn't working out in the show.
>
>I can understand why they brought him on - name recognition, a
>journalistic background, etc. However, he just wasn't sufficiently
>entertaining as a lead presenter.
>
>Matt LeBlanc brought a lot of charisma to the job, so hopefully he'll
>stay on. And he had decent chemistry with the older chap in the
>second-string presenter line up, Eddy, so that could work to hook
>things together. I think the show did well enough not to be cancelled
>and it can still find its feet.

I'm really quite loving Rory Reid as the voice of the Youth. He's got charisma, doesn't feel forced at any point when reading the lines, and unlike Mr Evans seems to actually be a petrolhead. (Listening to him talk about the mustang in last weeks ep was like watching an old TG segment)

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22. "RE: New Top Gear?"
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   >I'm really quite loving Rory Reid as the voice of the Youth. He's got
>charisma, doesn't feel forced at any point when reading the lines, and
>unlike Mr Evans seems to actually be a petrolhead. (Listening to him
>talk about the mustang in last weeks ep was like watching an old TG
>segment)

Reid loves cars. He loves looking at them, he loves driving them, he loves talking about them.

By contrast, Evans loves collecting cars. It's not the same thing.

But yeah, Reid, LeBlanc and the others apparently are staying on for at least another series.

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20. "RE: New Top Gear?"
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   I'd be extatic about this if it hadn't come out at the same time as the British cops revealed they're looking at him for sexual harassment/assault from back in the 90s. He's a creep and I'm glad he's gone, and the decisions are apparently unrelated, but the timing seems off.


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23. "RE: New Top Gear?"
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   >I'd be extatic about this if it hadn't come out at the same time as
>the British cops revealed they're looking at him for sexual
>harassment/assault from back in the 90s. He's a creep and I'm glad
>he's gone, and the decisions are apparently unrelated, but the timing
>seems off.

"That was Billie Piper sang that. Remember her? When she was a songstress? She was 19 years old and she dated Chris Evans. No, not that Chris Evans. The other one. The ginger one. What a decision."

- Simon Lane of the Yogscast, paraphrased from memory

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