Just to feed the fire... yes, you are correct in that regard. The only Duellist that Devlin has fully confided in is Amanda. None of the rest know.

(Not for certain, anyway. There's always the chance that one or two might have their own suspicions.)

Devlin prefers it that way not because he doesn't trust them, but because he knows that the information would then be obtainable by a telepath if they were scanned.

--truss.

Right, so my guess would be Juri, for no better reason than that Juri was with Kate when she came charging to the rescue, is (supposedly) from the outer rim and has no powerful family connections, and Kate is developing a strong emotional attachment to her. (Although Liza probably wouldn't know about the last part, right?)

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Y. Michael Chang
Mechanical Engineering major, Berkeley, CA

My own...

Utena.

No-one ever scanned Utena.

The Psicop was told in no uncertain terms that Utena was avoiding her.

Berk Watkins
Student of Quantum Bogodynamics...

Nice thoughts, but lets look at them in order, Trig. #1... Remember that Liza has just had a totally shattering experiance, first in almost getting raped, then in being Rescued by the one person she wants most to destroy.

#2, nothing in the Duel that occured would actually indicate to Lisa that Utena's a blip. If anything, Utena's abilities shown in that duel would be marked as a budding wizard, not a teep. Remember that Terran stock Teeps are Teeps and not Psi's. Things like Utena's leap or her other dueling tricks would not be considered Teep based by most people

#3 on the other hand, We know that Kate uses the shadow abilities of K-ryu. We also know that there is quite a bit of Jedi style force control that you pick up along the way as you learn K-ryu. We also know that Force and Psi are similar in some respects; for example a Force sensitive would know that a Psi had scanned her, and a Psi-Cop may well look at other Jedi mind tricks in the same vein...
___________________

Vaughn doesn't know I exist. I guess this explains why the rest of reality keeps ignoring me as well. >_<

Keep one thing in mind (and think back to the "triple crown" thread): the average Earther-on-the street believes that the Force is an old wives' tale (if they've even heard of it), and that "magic" is at best an extreme rarity and at worst a complete fraud. And most haven't had a lot of direct exposure to telepaths.

(Yes, I know that Liza is from Zeta Cygni. All of that still applies, though to a somewhat lesser extent due to the people in charge of that world.)

You, as a reader, have a working knowledge of the distinctions between the three "disciplines" listed above... but the majority of the general populace does not. And a person that refuses to believe in the existence of magic or Force abilities might see those talents as "sort of psi-related or something", or simply lump them together as "weird shit that I don't want anywhere near me".

Which attitude Liza takes is left as an exercise for the reader. ;)

>Remember that Terran stock Teeps are Teeps and not Psi's.

Uh... you've lost me, here. Clarify?

--truss.

Meaning that they tend to have telepathic skills as compared to other forms of Psi that are often found in RPG's, such as tele or pyrokenisis, Teleportation, etc.

___________________

Vaughn doesn't know I exist. I guess this explains why the rest of reality keeps ignoring me as well. >_<

Past? Doubtful. Power? Certainly. Utena's may be the only mind any Earther telepath has ever seen which has its own bouncer.

>What this leads to is an investigation by the PsiCorp into Utena. She
>is abducted and then (ok, I'm being melodramatic) tortured, causing
>her powers to work and the limits Belldany put on them to be broken.
>The Federation tries to bust her out.

I'm not commenting for or against the likelihood of this scenario, understand, but I just wanted to get it on the record that, if Utena's Seal were broken under something as extreme as torture, there would be no need for the Federation to do anything except duck.

I think the Psi Corps would be very chagrined if they accidentally caused the world to be revolutionized. :)

--G.
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And then we find out if Zeta Cygni is willing to go to war against Earth over PsyCorp/Earthdome's treatment of Gryphon's daughter's prep-school roommate?

Regards,
Jeanne

http://www.jhedge.com
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Jeanne

Just to note, the primary color of the EoJ dress uniform is -black-, not red.

Redneck

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Ah, but does it come with sunglasses?

Blessed be.
Nathan Baxter
(Galaxy defenders, indeed.)

Five bonus points to Nathan for thinking to ask that question.

--truss.

....

Holy <bleep>.

(Of course, it comes to me that Truss and Gryphon are enjoying doing this to the fans, but I want to have my head spin at the implications.)

Zack Seaholm - Anime fan, weathernut, worshipper of the goddess Belldandy.

Today's Global Thermonuclear War Strategy: Albanian Containment
Winner: None

Zack Seaholm - Anime fan, weathernut, worshipper of the goddess Belldandy.

Hey, wait. Did I actually answer your question? No.

I'd just been wondering how long it would take someone to ask. :)

--truss.

'Cause you're a bastard, torturing us like that. ^_^

>I'd just been wondering how long it would take someone to ask. :)

It _is_ a rather significant question. 'Cause, like, if no, then okay. But if
-yes-, what does he know, how does he know it, what is he planning and why
-that-?

Blessed be.
Nathan Baxter

Yes it is. Which is why you were commended for having thought of it.

However, it can't be answered just yet.

--G.
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Which would be why I didn't ask, because I knew it'd just get me a 'Answer Unclear, Ask Again Later' response from the collective Eryie Magic 8-Ball. :)

I'd also ask if it was just her old clothes in the Challenger duffel she came back with, but I imagine I'll just get that annoying grin from management again...

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Chad Collier
Digital Bitch
J. Random VFX Company

Aside from what we're told is in it. Of course that's what I meant. Uhhuh. Sure.

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Digital Bitch
J. Random VFX Company

Her old clothes and a little care package from the crew of the ship, who took a shine to her during her brief visit. Its precise contents I don't feel like divulging yet, though it's mentioned in the story that there's a Klingon warrior's baldric in it.

--G.
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Oh - I ought to mention that, in due time, the bag itself will probably become a collector's item of sorts. After all, it's one of the original run of Challenger stuff (bags, blankets, towels, coffee mugs, "Property of EJS Challenger Athletic Department" sweatshirts) with the ship's "NX" number on it. :)

Just for laughs, and to show I'm not hiding everything about the part of the bag's contents you didn't get to see: among the items it contains are a copy of Leonard McCoy's memoirs (He's Dead, Jim: My First 20 Years as a Starship Doctor) and a datacrystal containing the complete run of the hit Klingon TV series may'Duj bortaS (Battlecruiser Vengeance).

--G.
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...this brings to mind things like the Russian-language serial we had to watch in Russian class, and the infamous Spanish audio drama El Novio Robado and its French counterpart, all stuff either I or my sibling suffered through as part of language courses. Not to mention oddities like the Latin Winnie-the-Pooh.

(Curiously enough, my Japanese class was nearly devoid of these little gems. Perhaps they figured that if we wanted that, we'd either go to the Asian Cultural Society's movie screenings, or to anime club. *wg*)

What DO they use to impress the social and cultural contexts of conversational Klingon on new students? Crystals of may'Duj bortaS with commentary from friendly BBC-type linguists? I'd assume that the Klingon equivalent of a soap opera is, uh, a bit rough for the squeamish type. :)

Ard

Ard Sumhenner
Ronin Research, Sacramento, CA

Professor Kraalgh often uses the Klingon equivalent of CSPAN. He thinks it's important to know what tlhInganaase sounds like when the people speaking it are being extremely polite about wanting to rip each other's limbs off. :)

Battlecruiser Vengeance is considered too schlocky to be used in an educational context by most educators, though once Kraalgh finds out that Utena has all the episodes, he's going to be seriously jonesing for a copy of that crystal. :)

--G.
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So have Utena take over one of the big lecture halls with a projector and give showings sometime. Kind of like the Anime Club showings, except different.

-- Juniper

"Lift the world's lid!" ... "For the Revolution of the Restaurant!"
-- Saionji and Miki

*break*

Patrick Chester
"...could you and your associates arrange that for me, Mr. Morden?"

what, did Corwin enchant his dad's old fighter now?

hey...wait? what are Narns doing in my apartment..and wha...
*WHAM* *WHAM* *WHAM* *WHAM* *WHAM*

MeDiC....

And that's just fine. (:

I just felt the need to say 'woah' at a question that got my brain-juices flowing. It's a cool feeling.

Zack Seaholm - Anime fan, weathernut, worshipper of the goddess Belldandy.

Today's Global Thermonuclear War Strategy: Romanian War
Winner: None

Zack Seaholm - Anime fan, weathernut, worshipper of the goddess Belldandy.

And if it turns out she is legitimately entitled to wear it, the next question becomes does she know she's entitled to wear it? Or was a fast one pulled upstairs, and she just thinks she's being allowed to borrow (or was given) a really neat uniform to wear to the dance?

Regards,
Jeanne

http://www.jhedge.com
http://go.compuserve.com/Anime

Jeanne

I wouldn't pull something like that on her - I like and respect her too much. If she's wearing the uniform, you may rest assured that either she joined the Experts of Justice of her free will after receiving a complete briefing on the risks, rights and responsibilities thereof, or that I just loaned her the outfit because I thought it would be a fun thing for her to wear to a school dance. I wouldn't sign her up for anything without her knowledge.

--G.
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It occurs me that this could be a setup for a Deus Ex Machina in the next installment. Speculation, of course, but what were to happen if it were Utena who was fingered (and who says Liza can't finger BOTH her and Kate? She can always say it's one or the other, she's not sure which...) and she were picked up by the Psi Cops...and her legal status was totally different because she's officially EoJ military personnel? Instead of using the Psi Act Extension to collect a citizen of Zeta Cygni, which is part of the terms of that act, they'd have detained an EoJ military officer. I have no idea what its legal status exactly is in relation to Earth, but IIRC the EoJ falls under the same category as the WDF--an independent military force, connected to the Federation but not bound by Earthdome or Federation law. If this is the case, this might be the prelude to the EoJ suddenly stepping into Earthdome politics for Utena's sake--and the best military technology in the galaxy makes for a hell of a bargaining chip. I can see this far more readily than them stepping in just because Utena is Kaitlyn's roommate, after all. And, hell, who knows what Utena might have told Gryphon about recent events on campus in the hour she'd been gone? He might know, ICly, all about the Psi Corps and their seriously illegal intrusion on campus. Add that to the possibility that she or Kaitlyn may have told Gryphon earlier about that list Durandal gave them (the one with their names as people to watch), and suddenly events around the Duelist's Society don't seem nearly so innocent. If that bag of hers contained an emergency EoJ radio alongside commission papers, I wouldn't be too terribly surprised. Again, this is all speculation, but, well, I have to wonder. =)

--"I invoke the rites of fiery Muspelheim, and give thy soul up to the inferno's embrace..."

Er... you can't set up a Deus Ex Machina.

--truss.

Well, maybe -you- can't. I always read the instructions, and I never have any problems. }:-{D

Redneck

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*grin* Plot devices not only can be set up, they -have- to be. The less preparation is done in advance, the cheesier it is when it's sprung, ne?

But that doesn't really answer my question. I was kinda wondering if my idea had any merit at all or not...or if I'm getting a big fat nothing 'til Hunted Rose is released. =P

--"I invoke the rites of fiery Muspelheim, and give thy soul up to the inferno's embrace..."

Your ideas might have merit.

But we're not gonna tell you if they're -right.-

Redneck

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*chalks up two points on the Prediction Scoreboard*

Well, I kinda missed the phaser, and she didn't have any commission papers, for that they were in electronic format. Should have foreseen that, I guess. But in closure, I have the funny feeling that that communicator will be a hell of a lot more important that it looks on the surface. I'm rethinking some of the legal mumbo-jumbo I mentioned earlier, since being commissioned into the IPO/EoJ (exactly when is one term used rather than the other?) didn't do anything to her legal status as a Zeta Cygni citizen, any more than it did to Gryphon or anyone else. In retrospect it was kinda silly to think that would change automatically. And she's not active duty yet, either. But, we shall see how it goes. I must say I'm very thoroughly looking forward to seeing how all these disparate elements will come together. Keep up the great work!

Y'know, going back and reading this, it only just struck me how incredibly ridiculously -arrogant- I sound. It's all true, but it's not like there weren't six or twenty other people who foresaw the exact same things. Cripes. Sorry, guys.

--"I invoke the rites of fiery Muspelheim, and give thy soul up to the inferno's embrace..."

My bet would be probably. After all, wouldn't want her wandering around
Impersonating An Officer. Then he'd have to arrest her, and that would make
Corwin and Kate so upset. And it fits with Gryphon's respect (or lack thereof)
For traditional chains of command.

Polychrome

Hmmm. At this rate, Corwin will live up to his title as Cavalier of Two Worlds. What romantic hero he's turning out to be. Great instincts for a 14 year old.

t.
why didn't I know any 14 year old boys like him when I was 15?

Trigger Argee
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Manon, Orado, etc.
Denton, never leave home without it.

Trigger Argee
Manon, Maccadon, Orado, etc.
Denton, never leave home without it.

Well, I did think it was unlikely, but not totally impossible. That's why I didn't rule it out. Stranger things have happened. Maybe something came up (And promptly got cut off at the root ^_^) that kind of triggered a mood swing from righteous anger to overpowering passion... stranger things have happened In real life, after all.

___________________

Vaughn doesn't know I exist. I guess this explains why the rest of reality keeps ignoring me as well. >_<

... Juri's not really the "overpowering passion" type. If she'd been born in the UF universe she'd be a Vulcan. :)

(Please restrain yourselves from pon farr jokes. I assure you, I've already thought of them all.)

--G.
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Sorry to disobey a direct order, but I assure you that you haven't.

Pon Jamie Farr--An irresistable Vulcan urge to cross-dress. Not out of any sort of sexual perversion, but just to get kicked out of Kolinar training. Rarely successful.

--rR

t.
boy those WPI profs seem at lot more interesting that U of C's...

Trigger Argee
trigger_argee@hotmail.com
Manon, Orado, etc.
Denton, never leave home without it.

Trigger Argee
Manon, Maccadon, Orado, etc.
Denton, never leave home without it.

No. It's an extremely bad M*A*S*H joke.

--G.
(context, people, context! "reply with quote" is your friend!)
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>(context, people, context! "reply with quote" is your friend!)

Yes, sir!

t.

Trigger Argee
trigger_argee@hotmail.com
Manon, Orado, etc.
Denton, never leave home without it.

Trigger Argee
Manon, Maccadon, Orado, etc.
Denton, never leave home without it.

>... Juri's not really the "overpowering passion" type. If she'd been
>born in the UF universe she'd be a Vulcan. :)

Along with that, given Juri's history, she's rather unlikely to get frisky-- or to attempt anything of the sort-- immediately after realizing that yes, another woman is attracted to her.

Ard

(edit: fixed typo)

Ard Sumhenner
Ronin Research, Sacramento, CA

However, it doesn't matter if what she says is actually the truth, as long as she thinks it's the truth. Maybe she thinks Kate's a blip because she happened to be in the right place at the right time. Same goes for Juri. Azalynn and Amanda intercepted her on the way to the incinerater with Miki's notebook, so maybe she thinks one of them read her mind. Who knows what she could be thinking.

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Y. Michael Chang
Mechanical Engineering major, Berkeley, CA

Berk Watkins
Student of Quantum Bogodynamics...

"When correctly viewed, anything is lewd
I can tell you things about Peter Pan,
and the Wizard of Oz (there's a dirty old man)"

sorry, sorry...I seem to be in a frivolous-post mood :)

Hark! Someone is singing the WLP Company Song! }:-{D

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Liza knows who Kate is. Perhaps she figures that Detian is Teep. Detians certainly have some odd powers.

What gets me is, Psi Corps didn't investigate Kate further. While they couldn't verify that she was a Teep, they were sure of something, and knew that she could detect a teep attack. IMHO, that's worthy of further investigation itself.

--rR
(Mechanical Engineering degree holder, WPI
Hey, we've gotta stick together!)

Indeed. Given the events, and that with few exceptions all the members of the IDF and the BGF (with the execption of Devlin) either flat out avoided her or dectected the scan and told her to stuff it should be raising all sorts of warning flags in the Psi Cops minds. I have a feeling that while Ms. Le Clerk's part of the job may be done, the Psi corps are just starting to take a reaaaaaallll close look at Kate and her friends, and would be reguardless of who Lisa names as a blip.

One thought that just came to mind... does Lisa know about Ed at all? I'm not to certain at the moment. Given that Ed seems to also be a blank, this opens up a whole additional can of worms for the IDF...

___________________

Vaughn doesn't know I exist. I guess this explains why the rest of reality keeps ignoring me as well. >_<

Nobody gets Edward. Edward is the wind!

--G.
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*shatter*

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And the winner is... THE HYPNOTOAD! ALL GLORY TO THE HYPNOTOAD!

One hopes the Wind will not break her leg going out the window...

-- Bob
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500 plastic ducks.
1 world.
Infinite possibilities.
http://www.ifoundaduck.com

That would raise a large flagg, yes.

--
Geoff Depew - Mephron
Haberdasher to Androids, Malakite of Lightning and Angel of Tech Support Professionals
(They won't give me LARTs, they say that's restricted to Michael.)

*WHAM* *WHAM* *WHAM* *WHAM* *WHAM*

Patrick Chester
"...could you and your associates arrange that for me, Mr. Morden?"

...

...WTF?

Don't ask. Trust me.

t.
Trigger Argee
trigger_argee@hotmail.com
Manon, Orado, etc.
Denton, never leave home without it.

Trigger Argee
Manon, Maccadon, Orado, etc.
Denton, never leave home without it.

No, Trigger, he's asking about the "Wind" references; he already does the Narn Bat Squad himself...

Nathan, watch old M*A*S*H episodes. In one, Colonel Flagg of the CIA does his usual reactionary job of screwing around with the 4077th's staff, then refuses to leave unless everyone closes their eyes. "I'm the wind," he says. "No one sees me arrive, no one sees me leave." When they close their eyes, he leaves shot, and you hear running feet, then a crash of glass. Hawkeye opens his eyes, goes over to the window, looks out and down, and says, "The Wind has just broken his leg."

-- Bob, paraphrasing from memory.
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500 plastic ducks.
1 world.
Infinite possibilities.
http://www.ifoundaduck.com

Oh...that wasn't terribly bright of me was it? Sorry about that Nathan.

{internal note: think, then post!}

>
>In one, Colonel Flagg of the CIA
>does his usual reactionary job of screwing around with the 4077th's
>staff, then refuses to leave unless everyone closes their eyes. "I'm
>the wind," he says. "No one sees me arrive, no one sees me leave."
>When they close their eyes, he leaves shot, and you hear running feet,
>then a crash of glass. Hawkeye opens his eyes, goes over to the
>window, looks out and down, and says, "The Wind has just broken his
>leg."

<snicker> thanks for the explanation.

Trigger Argee
trigger_argee@hotmail.com
Manon, Orado, etc.
Denton, never leave home without it.

Trigger Argee
Manon, Maccadon, Orado, etc.
Denton, never leave home without it.

*trip* "Aagh!"

Patrick Chester
"...could you and your associates arrange that for me, Mr. Morden?"