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OtakuKeith
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01-10-04, 05:42 PM (EST)
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"NXE reviews"
 
   I wrote indepth reviews of the four sections of NXE over a period of several months after reading Apotheosis Now, and posted them on the review page of my website: http://www.freewebs.com/celestialwombat/reviews.htm

Apart from some problems at the beginning, I loved NXE - it's one of the best works of fanfiction I've read. Being a) a hopeless romantic and b) a Rei fan, I particularly liked the Jon/Rei relationship.

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  RE: NXE reviews Redneckteam 01-10-04 1
     RE: NXE reviews OtakuKeith 01-11-04 2
         RE: NXE reviews Luc 01-14-04 3
             RE: NXE reviews OtakuKeith 01-14-04 4
                 RE: NXE reviews Kendra Kirai 01-15-04 5

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Redneckteam
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01-10-04, 07:53 PM (EST)
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1. "RE: NXE reviews"
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   After reading the reviews, all I can say is... damn, I'd hate to see your reviews of something you -hate.-

Let me point out one point, quoting from your review of NXE:TMP:

Now that I've finished gushing, let me say that NXE is not Evangelion in its original form. The treatment of the characters is far more gentle; they aren't required to go to the lowest ebb possible and emerge still uncertain. There isn't the same atmosphere of hopelessness and brutality giving way to a small ray of hope. However, I think that the life-affirming themes I
found and enjoyed in Evangelion are present in NXE, just in a perhaps more conventional form. I think the authors should be congratulated on taking the series to somewhere new, original and exciting. From its initially *very* unpromising beginnings as a rerun of the canon with some new characters and contrived alterations to the plot, NXE manages to become something to
be proud of. Good job, guys!

It should be noted that NXE began as a toss-off joke in the EPU online chat; Gryphon *hates* the original Evangelion.

I'm with him on that, too. I found absolutely nothing life-affirming about Hideki Anno's full-season fuck-you to anime fandom. The hopelessness and brutality I saw full on, but any hope I saw got crushed, mercilessly, usually before the episode it appeared in ended. The series gave me two mental concepts: first, that humanity is inherently worthless and deserves to be wiped out (if it doesn't commit suicide first); and second, that any and all efforts humankind makes will end in inevitable failure. The whole series, to me, is an essay in nihlism.

ISTR that Hideki Anno once claimed that he created Evangelion to show what he would do if he were the star of a giant robot show- in effect admitting that Shinji is a self-insert. If this is true, then it would only reinforce my view that Anno is lower than pond scum.

Compare DJ Croft with, oh, the interchangable heroes of the various Go Nagai giant robot shows, and you might see why NXE is the only way I've been able to tolerate Evangelion at all.

(Well, NXE and porn, anyway, but with porn I can pretend the naked bodies have nothing to do with the Show to Slit Your Wrists By.)

Redneck (PS, don't revive months-old threads)

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OtakuKeith
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01-11-04, 04:02 AM (EST)
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2. "RE: NXE reviews"
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   LAST EDITED ON 01-12-04 AT 04:45 PM (EST)
 
*shrug* Suit yourself. NXE is a retelling of NGE in a much more conventionally 'heroic' style - I can see why that would be considered preferable to the way the original series ended. There must have been *some* value in the original, however, otherwise people wouldn't write all these great fanfics about it and get so upset over the ending.

I agree too that it's possible to see the ending in a totally pessimistic light - I may even be interpreting it entirely wrongly. However, as one of the bits of Shinji's brain says in episode 26, there are as many truths as there are people. It's a matter of perception.

Edit: Oh, and the belief that humans are worthless is espoused by the 'bad guys' - SEELE and Gendo. That's most certainly not the belief Shinji espouses by the very end. In my reality, anyway. :D

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Luc
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01-14-04, 06:37 AM (EST)
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3. "RE: NXE reviews"
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   >*shrug* Suit yourself. NXE is a retelling of NGE in a much more
>conventionally 'heroic' style - I can see why that would be considered
>preferable to the way the original series ended. There must have been
>*some* value in the original, however, otherwise people wouldn't write
>all these great fanfics about it and get so upset over the ending.

Speaking as an outsider, I'd guess that the characters are the reason NGE is popular, as so much of NGE fanfic I've seen is primarily character driven, rather then primarily plot driven.

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OtakuKeith
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4. "RE: NXE reviews"
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   Given that (in my opinion) the characters and their stories are by far the most crucial element of NGE - the rest is almost window-dressing - that's both unsurprising and as it should be. :)

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Kendra Kirai
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5. "RE: NXE reviews"
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   But in NGE, what the characters did basically amounted to nothing. They weren't supposed to do more than be a holding action until The Time Was Right, and they were kept from being so. The only reason it focused so much on some of the characters was to make it fill out 26 episodes and to make it *especially* insulting when the series just...*stopped*. There *was* no ending. It was like the series was just an old video game. 'Congratuations SHINJI, A winner is you!' (Well, that's one of the endings. In another, everyone DIES before the episode even ends, in messy, painful, and just plain horrible ways.

It's worse than the ending of T3, and that's saying something.


Anno hasn't been of much use since Nadia.

At least NGE was somewhat more coherent than RahXephon though. (Not that that's saying much. A 'I Took Too Much painkiller' dream is more coherent than RahXephon.


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