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"A different kind of database match"
 
  

United Federation of Planets
Department of Criminal Justice

Co-Operative Genetic Tracking Database (COGENT)

WARNING: Use of This Database Is Restricted to Authorized Law Enforcement Personnel as Defined Under the Federation COGENT Act of 2367. Unauthorized Users Are Subject to Prosecution.

SEARCH ENTERED: 23800217
SEARCH AUTH: Royal Salusian Mounted Police Criminalistics Laboratory
SEARCH RESULT: POSITIVE MATCH

SUBJECT: HUTCHINS, Benjamin D.
AKA: Gryphon

SPECIES: Human (Earth)
DOB: 1973.06.20 SC
APPARENT AGE: 25? (SEE NOTE BELOW)
SEX: Male
HEIGHT: 5'9"
WEIGHT: 175 lb.
EYES: Blue
HAIR: Brown
DISTINGUISHING MARKS: None

ALERT!

***FDCJ PUBLIC ENEMY NUMBER ONE***

WANTED FOR: Murder (mass)
Murder (multiple)
Murder (serial)
Rape
Kidnapping
Grand theft
Armed robbery
Aggravated assault
Aggravated assault upon a police officer
Impersonating a police officer
Impersonating a military officer
Impersonating an agent of the Crown
Unlawful flight to avoid prosecution
Evading pursuit
Resisting arrest
Use of false identity documents
Use of false starship registration documents
Possession of controlled technologies
Lèse majesté
(see additional charges)

in connection with the Musashi Incident of 2288 and subsequent criminal activities.

NOTE: Subject has been treated with Omega-2 life extension retrovirus. He is highly resistant to most chemical/biological/radiological agents, recovers very quickly from non-fatal injury, has an extremely high tolerance for pain, and does not age.

** THIS SUBJECT IS AN EXTREMELY DANGEROUS CLASS A FUGITIVE
AND MUST BE CONSIDERED ARMED AND HOSTILE AT ALL TIMES **

Any arrest attempt should be left to specially trained and equipped Class A Fugitive Apprehension personnel.

RECORD ENDS


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  RE: A different kind of database match Croaker Nov-02-08 1
     RE: A different kind of database match Gryphonadmin Nov-02-08 2
  RE: A different kind of database match TheOtherSean Nov-02-08 3
  RE: A different kind of database match Polychrome Nov-03-08 4
     RE: A different kind of database match Mister Fnord Nov-03-08 6
         RE: A different kind of database match CdrMike Nov-04-08 16
  RE: A different kind of database match O_M Nov-03-08 5
  RE: A different kind of database match Offsides Nov-03-08 7
     RE: A different kind of database match Gryphonadmin Nov-03-08 8
         RE: A different kind of database match Offsides Nov-03-08 9
             RE: A different kind of database match Gryphonadmin Nov-03-08 10
                 RE: A different kind of database match Pasha Nov-03-08 11
                     RE: A different kind of database match Gryphonadmin Nov-04-08 14
                         RE: A different kind of database match Pasha Nov-04-08 17
                 RE: A different kind of database match Offsides Nov-04-08 12
                 RE: A different kind of database match MOGSY Nov-04-08 13
                 RE: A different kind of database match simonz Nov-04-08 15

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Croaker
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1. "RE: A different kind of database match"
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   Hmmmm. Sounds like a dangerous sort of fellow. Wouldn't want to make him mad at me.

(Uhm. Rape? Was Kei that mad with him, or is there something else?)

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2. "RE: A different kind of database match"
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   >(Uhm. Rape? Was Kei that mad with him, or is there something
>else?)

Well, bear in mind, this is (though nobody in law enforcement knew it at the time) actually a list of crimes committed by two people (over the course of 92 years, no less). Ironically, a number of these crimes probably are things the real Gryphon did during his exile (resisting arrest, for instance, and impersonating a police officer, the latter of which probably relates to his time as a cop on Earth). The rape, uh, most likely not so much.

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3. "RE: A different kind of database match"
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   Dang, he sounds like a pretty dangerous feller. Let's send hordes of disposable-but-skilled bounty hunters after him! :-)

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4. "RE: A different kind of database match"
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   >Lèse majesté

So which monarch was personally offended?

>(see additional charges)

Littering, loitering, mail fraud, mattress tag removal...

Polychrome


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   ...and one moving violation.

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   And several unpaid parking tickets.

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5. "RE: A different kind of database match"
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   ...and now I'm wondering why the Salusian Mounties' CSI lab was looking up Gryphon's file.


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7. "RE: A different kind of database match"
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   Hmm... between this and the writup of Invincible, methinks you're working on a re-do of Secrets to go with the general change of things in the UFverse...

Of course, I could be totally off base, but I certainly look forward to whatever this leads up to.

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Gryphonadmin
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8. "RE: A different kind of database match"
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   >Hmm... between this and the writup of Invincible, methinks
>you're working on a re-do of Secrets to go with the general
>change of things in the UFverse...

Well, sort of. I've long thought that Secrets could use a do-over, not because of changes in the UF universe so much as because it's rubbish. But I held off for a long time, for three main reasons:

1) I've long had a bias against wholesale revisions. This is mainly a holdover from the early days, when our primary release mechanism was Usenet, and so revision control was problematic at best. Nowadays, with things going out through a website over which I have direct control, this is a lot less of an issue.

2) I have many, many other things to do, and retracing old steps isn't a particularly efficient use of time.

3) Perhaps as a corollary to 2), I always promised myself I wouldn't undertake such a thing unless I had a Better Idea, and for a long time, well, I didn't have one.

That last part? Changed a while back...

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9. "RE: A different kind of database match"
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   >>Hmm... between this and the writup of Invincible, methinks
>>you're working on a re-do of Secrets to go with the general
>>change of things in the UFverse...
>
>Well, sort of. I've long thought that Secrets could use a
>do-over, not because of changes in the UF universe so much as because
>it's rubbish. But I held off for a long time, for three main reasons:
>
While I don't think it's rubbish, I do agree that it's not your finest piece of writing. But, IIRC, it was also one of the earliest non-core pieces, so I can see why you're not too thrilled with it.

>1) I've long had a bias against wholesale revisions. This is mainly a
>holdover from the early days, when our primary release mechanism was
>Usenet, and so revision control was problematic at best. Nowadays,
>with things going out through a website over which I have direct
>control, this is a lot less of an issue.
>
Fair enough.

>2) I have many, many other things to do, and retracing old steps isn't
>a particularly efficient use of time.
>
Also understandable.

>3) Perhaps as a corollary to 2), I always promised myself I wouldn't
>undertake such a thing unless I had a Better Idea, and for a long
>time, well, I didn't have one.
>
>That last part? Changed a while back...
>
Ahh.. so it's not so much that you're rewriting Secrets, as you've relegated it to apocryphal status and will be showing is the real story at sometime in the future. looking forward to it :)

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10. "RE: A different kind of database match"
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   >While I don't think it's rubbish, I do agree that it's not your finest
>piece of writing. But, IIRC, it was also one of the earliest non-core
>pieces, so I can see why you're not too thrilled with it.

There's just so much going on there that's... wrong. I've often thought over the last few years that it'd be nice if the story of the end of Gryphon's exile didn't involve quite so much brainless criminal irresponsibility on his part or quite so much, uh, consequence-free mass murder on Kei's. I mean, what?

>Ahh.. so it's not so much that you're rewriting Secrets, as
>you've relegated it to apocryphal status and will be showing is the
>real story at sometime in the future. looking forward to it :)

Basically, yeah. When it's all said and done, there likely will still be an Exile story with that title, but it won't cover the same span of time. As for the one that does, it's now in progress under the working title Manhunt.

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11. "RE: A different kind of database match"
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   >There's just so much going on there that's... wrong. I've
>often thought over the last few years that it'd be nice if the story
>of the end of Gryphon's exile didn't involve quite so much brainless
>criminal irresponsibility on his part or quite so much, uh,
>consequence-free mass murder on Kei's. I mean, what?


So long as Amberson is still around, then dude...awesome...


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14. "RE: A different kind of database match"
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   >So long as Amberson is still around, then dude...awesome...

er, yes... (tug collar nervously)... about that...

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17. "RE: A different kind of database match"
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   >>So long as Amberson is still around, then dude...awesome...
>
>er, yes... (tug collar nervously)... about that...
>

Aww...I liked him. I mean, he was lifted pretty directly, but...I always wanted to see him and Corwin interacting with each other. For, you know..shits and giggles.

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12. "RE: A different kind of database match"
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   >There's just so much going on there that's... wrong. I've
>often thought over the last few years that it'd be nice if the story
>of the end of Gryphon's exile didn't involve quite so much brainless
>criminal irresponsibility on his part or quite so much, uh,
>consequence-free mass murder on Kei's. I mean, what?
>
Well, yeah. As I said, not your finest hour.

>Basically, yeah. When it's all said and done, there likely will still
>be an Exile story with that title, but it won't cover the same span of
>time. As for the one that does, it's now in progress under the
>working title Manhunt.
>
Cool - I think this is the first time I've gotten you to reveal the title of an upcoming piece before it was announced in any official way. In any case, as always, I'm looking forward to whatever comes out of your publication (queue|stack|jumble) :)

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13. "RE: A different kind of database match"
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   >There's just so much going on there that's... wrong. I've
>often thought over the last few years that it'd be nice if the story
>of the end of Gryphon's exile didn't involve quite so much brainless
>criminal irresponsibility on his part or quite so much, uh,
>consequence-free mass murder on Kei's. I mean, what?

I always saw this as the early days' "the overall tone of UF hasn't quite sorted itself out yet" phase - It seems like back then you guys were often back and forth between "space opera serious" "cartoon reality," "parody" and a few other modes.

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15. "RE: A different kind of database match"
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   Ok, that makes the bit where Invicible crashed on Xawin make a lot more sense. At first I was like...what happened to Tantalus? Definitely looking forward to this.


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