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"No, no, I have a real name. It's Makoto. Makoto Kino."

YES!!

Somehow, when I read the description of Kilovolt, I knew it was her.

Thanks for "importing" one of my favorite people.

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> A phone rang in the forest.

Hopefully there is someone there to hear it...

> Geoff Depew reached into his coat and pulled it out. "Hello?"

Whew.

> "It sounds like it beats hanging upside down by my ankle.

I'd bet just about everyone except Logan would probobly agree with that thought!

> There had to be a way out of
> Logan's snare without breaking any bones.

Given that its Logan, he of the unbreakable bones, I'd take that as a given. Besides, he's not Batman and that whole Zogger thing.

> "It's one of a kind," Diana told him. "My people have little use
> for spacecraft, since they don't leave our ancient homeland. Our finest
> craftswomen built this for me when I decided to go to New Avalon."

So the invisible Jet gets upgraded to the invisible spaceship. Makes sense given the setting.

> "Well," he explained, "when we met, one of my first thoughts was
> that you looked like a statue of a Greek goddess. I guess I wasn't as
> far off as I thought."

And so we show that WW's origin doesnt need any tweaking to fit into the UF verse!

> Only one mortal man has ever come here and been allowed to leave
> alive, and that was only because of the impression he made on my
> mother."
> "When was that?"
> Diana pulled off her headset. "1943."

Gotta love the experiance an older woman brings to the party, though! 1943. Hmm, ok, there's a WWII link right there. And here I thoguht it was Red Skull... but RS is the sort of slime the Amazons wouldnt let leave alive if they could.

> He passed her the monocular. "See the square impressions in the
> marble? Landing gear size, and looks like some hydraulic fluid. I
> didn't see any blaster burn marks, though. That would mean... stunners.
> This wasn't a clean-up op. They took everyone on the island captive...
> which means they wanted them alive."

Thats... not smart of them IMO; seems to me that there is nothing harder to keep prisoner than an single Amazon, let alone over a thousand of them. One wonders what they hope to achieve, other than setting themselves up for a whupping!


> Back in 1943, Steve left something here. He'd
> helped save us from a group of Nazi sorcerers and Fallschirmjaeger, and
> we asked him for something to commemorate the day.

Given that its Amazons, its probobly not what I'm thinking at the moment.

> My sisters may... may not return, so we need to collect
> it. Make certain it doesn't fall into -their- hands."

Hmm. Ok, its definatly a thing, and something its not a good idea to let earthgov have. hmm. We havent seen Cap's Sheild on screen of late, have we?

> Hanging on that wall was a badge-shaped shield. The top of it was
> painted blue, with three white stars; the rest of it was painted in red
> and white vertical stripes.

Well, Darn, I keep visualizing the round version they gave him in the Avengers era.
If I understand this right, though, this one looks more like:
http://img117.imageshack.us/img117/8012/caponefz6.png?x

> Geoff Depew drew his guns and stepped into the room. "Excuse me,"
> he said in a cool voice, "I'm afraid you're part of an International
> Police investigation. Please divest yourself of your weapons. I need
> to ask you a few questions."

Heh. Heh. Heh. This is one of the things I love about UF Geoff. He can do cringe worthy stuff like this and MAKE IT WORK.

> "Ya heard him, Mag. He's one of those IPO pukes. Following their
> rules of engagement. Which just means it's easier to WASTE HIM!"

oooo.... I wouldnt count on that. In fact, to quote Stienbeck "You shouldnt a aught to have done dat..."

> "Be smart," he warned. "You're alive right now because I didn't
> feel like firing two more shots. I still have bullets."

Well, that and dead men dont interrogate well; not to mention that you seem to have moved beyond the shoot them all and let Odin sort them out mindset Big Fire saddled UF you with.

> "They have no weapons, and only what they wear. If your sisters
> return, these men can face their justice; if they don't... I'm sure
> they'll be rescued eventually and have to report what happened."
> Diana nodded. "Acceptable." Then, sparing a moment's venomous
> glare for both men, she told them, "You are lucky Agent Depew is here."

Oh, I dunno Diana. They might actually be better off if your Sisters get them than their superiors...

Love the travelouge of wretched hives of Villany, too. Somehow gives it just the right touch.

> "At any point, MiniPax could come
> in here on a loyalty sweep, and all these people would fail in one way
> or another. So they drink and dance and make merry, for tomorrow..."
> He left off with a shrug.

And I'd expect that the only reason they dont, is as you've pointed out a few paragraphs back, sometimes they need them too.

> "I hate karaoke," Diana complained, as a drunken Centauri performed
> (very badly) a version of 'We Are The Champions'.

And I can't blame you that much, as I've run across my share of cringe worthy performers at Karaoke dos.

> "She's into superstitions
> Black cats and voodoo dolls
> I feel a premonition
> That girl's gonna make me fall

Heh... and UF Geoff continues to show his believe in that old commercial jingle: "WhatEVER you do, do it well!"

> "Been a long time, Hellbringer."
> Geoff shook his head. "I don't use that name any more."

Hellbringer. Did UF you get that monicer from Big Fire, or during your crusade against them?

> She watched the pain cross Geoff's face. "In a manner of speaking
> it is. Hellbringer," he said slowly, "was my operational name when I
> was with my former employers. On assignment, that's who I was. The
> Chief knows; I'm pretty sure that Captain Rogers and Deputy Chief
> Daniels know. As for her... she's an infiltration bioroid, part of a
> team, formerly Earth Alliance deniable and expendable ops. They broke
> their loyalty programming and hung out their shingle here. If anyone can
> find where the rest of the Themyscirans are, it's them."

Ah, and here we get the answers. Yeah, I can see Big Fire naming an assasin that, it fits with their terror tactics. And his unnamed contact just proves the point G made a while ago that why not continue doing what you know your good at? Granted it was about robots who passed Turing, but it still applies here.

> Geoff glanced over. "Minipax. One of the Caesars - I forget which
> one - declared the Pax Romana.

Julius hisownself, I think, which makes Uncle J even a better codename.

> "Much less of a feeling someone's going to knife me. The old motto
> gets taken too seriously by some people."
> Gothic nodded. "You should know," she said, "that someone has sold
> the fact you're here. There's a few people who remember the last time
> you were in town."
> Geoff groaned.

Somedays you just cant take yourself anywhere, Eh? Then again, given how you've set up this town, it doesnt surprise me that one or more players around here would be gunning for you for any number of reasons.

> They hit the roof to the tune of gunfire in B major.

I dunno wiether to laugh myself silly or groan at that one, Geoff.

> "Yeah, airstrip's that DUCK!" He grabbed her and pulled her to the
> side, just as a pair of micromissiles blew past her, hitting the
> billboard across the street.

Sounds like the situation has just dropped in the Quacker there... good thing you thought to call ahead for what backup you could get.

> The other man, a thin Japanese in short-sleeved dress shirt, dark
> slacks and tie, bowed like the Neo-Tokyo salaryman he resembled. "We
> are the Black Lagoon Trading Company. Balalaika hired us to get you to
> the airport! Please get in the car so we can move quickly!"

Sounds kinda like an established group of Shadowrunners. Yours or someone elses?

> The pink Caddy slewed around, knocking over the full-armor borg
> sitting by Diana's craft's door.

Ah. so the invisble part doesnt work while its shut down. Makes sense, otherwise you could have one heck of a time finding it later...

And a great look into what makes UF Geoff tick. Some might say that he's just replaced a slavish devotion to Big Fire with an equally obsessive devotion to the IPO; But someone like this can also be more valuable than his weight in any monetary system you'd care to name. One who knows both sides, but doesnt dip across to the 'dark' unless its the only way to get the job done, and devoted enough to be willing to pay the price for it when it comes due.

> Geoff, rummaging around in his duffle bag, froze, blinked, and
>turned to stare at her. The Amazon princess gave him back a "... what?"

an Incarnation of Diana with a sense of humor??? RUN AWAY!!!!!

> Diana gave him a look and said, "No, I was going to slap one and
> then she'd slap two Amazons and they'd slap two Amazons and so on and so
> on."

VFX Note: Divide screen during each "and so on.."

> Psi Corps officers monitored the area, with E(CA)2s
> patrolling.

Now this slipped by me on my first reading, but for some reason I thought E(CA)'s were strictly for Black Omega's use, and that Black Omega didnt exist unless you were one of the few of the Corps that were 'in the know.' Ergo, either Black Omega's actaully behind this and just co opted the place from MiniPax; or they've had enough of a leak that Omega is nowhere near as black as it needs to be to remain effective; or third, some other reasoning that I've overlooked entirely.

> They ran up the stairs and turned right. Blast doors slid open at
> their approach, then slid closed behind, as they ran through the first
> quadrant's section. The last door on the row didn't respond, with the
> result of Geoff bouncing off it.

Kabong! Makes sense that the PTB would twig to that and overide the tags sooner or later, adding the sound effect in my head (at least) injected a nice touch of whups to break up the building tension of the scene.

> She swept wet hair out of her eyes. "... I take back every moment
> of thinking you were crazy."
> "Well, mind where you stow them, you might need them again later."

crazy like a fox, more like. Besides, if it works, its not really Crazy, is it?

> It wasn't just fire. It ate away his skin, burrowed into his
> muscles, charred at his bones. It was hideously agonizing, the kind of
> pain that kills just by existing in the human body.

IOW, the sort of pain one feels after having thrown yourself in front of a flamethrower to save a comrade...

> Geoff pulled himself to his feet. "It's a Psi Corps technique.
> It kicks in the fear center and makes you hallucinate something that
> scares you. I'll have to work on that."

Developed by a particulary Psychotic Psy cop named Johnathan Crane, I presume?

> It'll be obvious to them now."

What, it wasnt before?

> "So your -plan- was to have them send in troopships?"

Even if it wasnt, Geoff's the type who improvises, adapts, and Overcomes. Its part of the plan NOW.

> With a small smile, Diana said, "You really think you have the
> situation pegged, don't you?"

Pegged? No. Last time he thought that he had the roof fall out from under him. But the anylical part of his brain shows the adaptablity to changing conditions that made him such a great assasin once, and an even better... Well, sure the P stands for Police, but theres something about Geoff that makes me think more of Bond, James Bond than Jim Brass...

> "Did you just whack that guy up on his own blip sleepers?"
> Geoff nodded.
> "I think I like you. You're mean to people who deserve it."
> He checked his guns. "Miss Sandsmark, you have absolutely no
> idea."

Oh, now that was just pure win, Geoff. even with the girl wonder/Wonder Girl gag.

> Then she turned to the man
> in the grey jumpsuit. "And this one is the commander of this prison.
> We had thought to leave him alive and well, to face the punishment of
> his superiors, which will certainly be great.

MUAHAHAHAHAHA I can see her Majesty 'GETS IT'. Personally, though, if this yeller bellied varmit was the type who WOULD try something like that, I dont think even Geoff's threat would change his mind.

> "Paying a debt, Polly. Prepare to come aboard." Everyone could
> hear the relief in the voice of Steve Rogers.

CAP TO THE RESCUE!!! but Polly? Ok, its a convenient shortening of Hippolyta, but I bet it drove her absolutly Spare the first time he used it on her!

> Rogers nodded. "I'll with you. This is important, and you're
> going to want someone to watch your back."

I think you dropped a word, probobly go, inbetween I'll and with, here...

> With the important things out of the way, Geoff's mind changed
> gears, leaving him free to ask in a more human tone of voice, "Captain
> Rogers, was that what I think - "

No mistaking it. Earthdome decided to nuke the Island to save it, Geoff.

> I've... " He trailed off, was
> silent for several seconds, and then finished quietly, "... seen them
> before.

And I'm sure that we're not just talking about the Fat Man and Little Boy, either. Come to think of it, didnt you say that the nations got to tossing those lil firecrackers at each other at least once, if not more, in between first contact and the founding of the Earth Alliance?

> they wore not,
> as Geoff had subconsciously envisioned them, metal armor in an ancient
> style; instead, they were dressed in modern IPO-issue tactical gear,
> plundered from lockers aboard the Minuteman 9.

But thats just as likely because their traditional ancient style armor was back on the Island when Earthgov nuked it and they're improvising.

> "What the hell?" the Q-boss blurted out. "Where the bitches come
> from?"
> Steve Rogers said quietly, "He won't leave here alive."

UF-Geoff is right. The competence level of Q Boss seem to be dropping dramatically. And Cap? well.. DUH.

> Earl was a dickhead, and now he's at the
> bottom of a marine cargo crane shaft. Everybody wins.

Cause Earl had to Die... Na nanana NA NA NA...

Jokes aside, I LIKE this cell. I like the idea of a group of agents who's job is to stir up mayhem without using weapons... sort of. Prior to this they've not come off as having the sort of brains to be the sort of threat that the IPO clearly consideres them to be

As they walked toward the ships, Steve Rogers chuckled.
"Geoff Depew, leaving a Big Fire cell operational. I never thought
I'd see the day."

Granted, Geoff would probobly arrest them if they were working against someone other than Earthgov, but while the Enemy of my Enemy is not neccecarily my friend, it doesnt mean I'm gonna help my enemy by taking HIS enemy out unless said enemy starts coming after ME.

> "No, no, I have a real name. It's Makoto. Makoto Kino."

*Shatter*

Lessee, Marty used Serena/Usagi in "Girl who knew to much," Ami had a bit part in NXE, now Makoto. That just leaves Rei and Minako.

> Earth Alliance President Ciaran Ndege

Who? I thought Greely took over as Clark's Toady once Clark got hisself elected to the Federation Senate...

> "Get a security team in here at once!" Ndege ordered. "And get me
> a secure connection to Clark."

but he's clearly just as much of a toady for Clark as Greely is/was/will be...

> "Earthforce got the information on Themyscira from old World War II
> files on the failed Waffen-SS assault there," he went on. "It was dug
> up by a records officer in the Vienna intel center - one Major John
> Smith."
> Steve was silent for a moment; then he shook his head gravely.
> "No. Not John Smith. Johann Schmidt."

A name I do belive should be familiar to all...

> "That was the name the leader of that Tomodachi Nazi op told me to
> tell you. The one who heiled Hitler. Who is he?"

Well Geoff, your about to find out...

> Geoff sucked in breath through his teeth. "The Red Skull," he
> translated. "That's why he said 'heil Hitler' when the Fed Nazis make a
> point of never saying it."

And so we find out the backstory of the UF Red Skull. Although I thought it was that the Germans created RS in response to Cap, not the other way around. Just means I'm probobly the one with his wires crossed though.

Given that all of this appears in an Epilouge, was the RS tie in always part of the plot, or something added at the last minute?

> "Oh, no worries," Geoff replied. "Actually I'm leaving early
> today. If I'm not in Perth by 6:30, Sara'll have my head. Women with
> super-speed hate to be kept waiting at restaurants."

Mm. Carni,,, carni... Howthehoek was that spelled again? and the name? was that Cap's birth name? or the name of the scientst who headed the America project?


Of COURSE you wernt expecting it!
No One expects the FANNISH INQUISITION!
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2. "RE: The Antianeira Incident"
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   The passcode? Historical figure, who created the Marshall Plan.

And most if the characters (except for Gothic Lolita and Social Butterfly) are from the Black Lagoon anime/manga.

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3. "RE: The Antianeira Incident"
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   >> There had to be a way out of
>> Logan's snare without breaking any bones.
>
>Given that its Logan, he of the unbreakable bones, I'd take that as a
>given.

Geoff's thinking about his own bones, given that he's the one in the snare. He doesn't give a crap about Logan's at the moment.

>> Hanging on that wall was a badge-shaped shield. The top of it was
>> painted blue, with three white stars; the rest of it was painted in red
>> and white vertical stripes.
>
>Well, Darn, I keep visualizing the round version they gave him in the
>Avengers era.

Actually, he received the round one from FDR in 1944; it was the replacement for his original shield-shaped one, the disposition of which we see here. He still has that one (or, well, he's loaned it to Spitfire, but he still knows where it is).

Cap's original shield - and indeed his original costume, which in UF he still wears, sans the Enemy Ace mask - is clearly seen in these photos of the Marvel Select Ultimate Cap action figure.

>> Geoff glanced over. "Minipax. One of the Caesars - I forget which
>> one - declared the Pax Romana.
>
>Julius hisownself, I think, which makes Uncle J even a better
>codename.

It was actually the 18th-century historian Edward Gibbon who coined the phrase pax Romana; he was referring to the period of relative peace and prosperity that marked roughly the first two centuries of the Roman Empire, from Augustus to Marcus Aurelius (roughly 27 BC to AD 180). But Geoff and I figured that whoever came up with the term "Uncle Julie" in the thieves' argot of Roanapur probably didn't look it up either. :)

>Ah. so the invisble part doesnt work while its shut down.

It can be left on, but they were in Roanapur openly, and the whole point was to get noticed, so...

>Makes sense, otherwise you could have one heck of a time finding it later...

"Everyone remember where we parked."

>an Incarnation of Diana with a sense of humor??? RUN AWAY!!!!!

Ours is basically the Justice League Unlimited version, who has been known to make a joke now and then (and flirt with Batman, come to that).

>Now this slipped by me on my first reading, but for some reason I
>thought E(CA)'s were strictly for Black Omega's use

The regular Psi Corps Enforcement Division has Enforcer (Cybernetically Augmented) personnel, but they're not the same as the ones Black Omega has. They're volunteers from Earthforce Special Forces and have received considerably less, er, invasive cerebral conditioning.

>Developed by a particulary Psychotic Psy cop named Johnathan Crane, I
>presume?

The late Dr. Crane was a bent psychiatrist who lived on Kane's World in the early 2300s, but his work is still avidly studied by certain parties a century later...

>No mistaking it. Earthdome decided to nuke the Island to save it,
>Geoff.

Well, no... they decided to nuke the island to nuke it.

>> I've... " He trailed off, was
>> silent for several seconds, and then finished quietly, "... seen them
>> before.
>
>And I'm sure that we're not just talking about the Fat Man and Little
>Boy, either.

No indeed; Cap was frozen solid in an irregular solar orbit by the time the US employed its newly developed atomic arsenal against Japan (and those weren't thermonuclear weapons anyway; those weren't developed until the 1950s). He's talking about the nukes employed during the Pacification Wars (sometimes called World War V) of the mid-24th century (the pacification in question was various independent nations being forced to accept the Olympus one-world government, and in the interest of fairness it should be pointed out that it was not Olympus that employed them), and possibly during the War of Corporate Occupation (2387-2388) as well.

>Come to think of it, didnt you say that the nations got
>to tossing those lil firecrackers at each other at least once, if not
>more, in between first contact and the founding of the Earth Alliance?

As of 2410 in UF, there have been six conflicts on Earth that historians have (mostly) agreed to title world wars. There's controversy over all but the first two, but for the most part the consensus goes:

  • World War I (aka the Great War): 1914-1918, Entente Powers vs. Central Powers

  • World War II (known as the First Great Patriotic War in Russia): 1939-1945, Allied Powers vs. Axis Powers;first war to involve nuclear weapons

  • World War III (aka the Post-Contact Wars): 1999-2004, United Nations vs. Anti-Alien Alliance (limited use of tactical nuclear weapons)

  • World War IV (aka the Second American Civil War): 2200s, precise dates not established, Euro-American Union vs. Sino-American Alliance; division of US into eastern states (remnant US) and western states (Imperial Americana); extensive nuclear exchanges

  • World War V (aka the Pacification Wars): mid-2300s, precise dates not established, Olympus vs. anti-Olympus hold-out nations with no central organization; several significant nuclear incidents, but no strategic use of such weapons

  • World War VI (aka the Earth theatre of the War of Corporate Occupation): 2387-2388, Olympus vs. GENOM Corporation; very limited nuclear employment (GENOM's preferred terror tactic was orbital bombardment)

(This somewhat controversial but generally accepted list is why Corwin makes an offhanded reference to people expecting World War VII to break out at the wedding in S5M2 Clarion Call.)

>Lessee, Marty used Serena/Usagi in "Girl who knew to much," Ami had a
>bit part in NXE, now Makoto. That just leaves Rei and Minako.

Mina also had a very brief appearance in NXE.

>> Earth Alliance President Ciaran Ndege
>
>Who? I thought Greely took over as Clark's Toady once Clark got
>hisself elected to the Federation Senate...

Indeed he did. Funny thing about political offices - they change hands sometimes...

>Mm. Carni,,, carni... Howthehoek was that spelled again?

A Torre da Carne (The Tower of Meat).

>and the name? was that Cap's birth name?

Er, no, that'd be Steven Anthony Rogers.

>or the name of the scientst who headed the America project?

Nope, his name was Abraham Erskine (codename Josef Reinstein).

At the time Steve Rogers became Captain America (and for his entire WWII career as Cap), General George C. Marshall, Jr., was the U.S. Army Chief of Staff, the Army's highest-ranking officer and thus, apart from FDR and the Secretary of War, Cap's boss. (After the war he served as Harry Truman's Secretary of State and later, briefly, his Secretary of Defense; in the former capacity he was the architect and namesake of the Marshall Plan to rebuild war-torn Europe, which won him the Nobel Peace Prize in 1953 - sadly, only after he was savagely denounced and his reputation damaged by that perennial superstar of early-1950s hypocrisy and stupidity, Sen. Joseph McCarthy.)

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4. "RE: The Antianeira Incident"
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   > Er, no, that'd be Steven Anthony Rogers.

Hmmm... In UF, did he have a relative/descendant named William who shared his middle name, but preferred to go by his nickname?

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   >> Er, no, that'd be Steven Anthony Rogers.
>
>Hmmm... In UF, did he have a relative/descendant named William who
>shared his middle name, but preferred to go by his nickname?

No; given how Cap got frozen in UF and when/where he ended up being thawed (covered here), they're basically the same guy.

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   Fair point, although he really should have been defrosted a century later. :)

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7. "RE: The Antianeira Incident"
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   >Fair point, although he really should have been defrosted a century
>later. :)

He's in the 25th now, so close enough :)
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17. "RE: The Antianeira Incident"
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   Just as a matter of giving respect where it's due, I far prefer Captain America in his tin hat to the Cap in his spandex. As someone with bugger all emotional investment in the character, he looks way better in his modified WW2 squaddie outfit; seeing the shots of that action figure, I can just imagine him on Omaha Beach, deflecting storms of bullets with his shield while returning fire with a BAR and screaming encouragements to the guys who're bogged down behind tank traps around him... good stuff.

Hell, but maybe it's just me; I've got a fixation on WW2.

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8. "RE: The Antianeira Incident"
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   >> This wasn't a clean-up op. They took everyone on the island captive...
>> which means they wanted them alive."
>
>Thats... not smart of them IMO; seems to me that there is nothing
>harder to keep prisoner than an single Amazon, let alone over a
>thousand of them. One wonders what they hope to achieve, other than
>setting themselves up for a whupping!
>

"We have the Psi Corps. Amazons may be incredibly strong and durable women, but put enough pressure on their minds, and they will break. Then, they will be our incredibly strong and durable women. An army of Amazons."

Okay, maybe that's not the exact words, but I think that captures the idea.

>> They ran up the stairs and turned right. Blast doors slid open at
>> their approach, then slid closed behind, as they ran through the first
>> quadrant's section. The last door on the row didn't respond, with the
>> result of Geoff bouncing off it.
>
>Kabong! Makes sense that the PTB would twig to that and overide the
>tags sooner or later, adding the sound effect in my head (at least)
>injected a nice touch of whups to break up the building tension of the
>scene.
>

It wouldn't even require that. It's possible that the door guards weren't cleared for entry into that area.

>> "Paying a debt, Polly. Prepare to come aboard." Everyone could
>> hear the relief in the voice of Steve Rogers.
>
>CAP TO THE RESCUE!!! but Polly? Ok, its a convenient shortening of
>Hippolyta, but I bet it drove her absolutly Spare the first time he
>used it on her!
>

It's what the older JSA members called Hippolyta in the comics. It seems appropriate that Cap would have earned the right to use that nickname.

>> "What the hell?" the Q-boss blurted out. "Where the bitches come
>> from?"
>> Steve Rogers said quietly, "He won't leave here alive."
>
>UF-Geoff is right. The competence level of Q Boss seem to be dropping
>dramatically. And Cap? well.. DUH.
>

Q-Bosses have varied in quality. But Earl does seem to be one of the guys that made the upper half of the class possible.

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10. "RE: The Antianeira Incident"
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   >"We have the Psi Corps. Amazons may be incredibly strong and durable
>women, but put enough pressure on their minds, and they will break.
>Then, they will be our incredibly strong and durable women. An
>army of Amazons."
>
>Okay, maybe that's not the exact words, but I think that captures the
>idea.

That was, pretty much, the operational spec.

>Q-Bosses have varied in quality. But Earl does seem to be one of the
>guys that made the upper half of the class possible.

Yeah, pretty much.

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11. "RE: The Antianeira Incident"
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   >> The other man, a thin Japanese in short-sleeved dress shirt, dark
>> slacks and tie, bowed like the Neo-Tokyo salaryman he resembled. "We
>> are the Black Lagoon Trading Company. Balalaika hired us to get you to
>> the airport! Please get in the car so we can move quickly!"
>
>Sounds kinda like an established group of Shadowrunners. Yours or
>someone elses?
>

The Black Lagoon Trading Company are from an anime of the same name (just drop the trading company part). The show is not bad, if you like the good-old fashioned Ultra Violence, a maid that would give the Terminator nightmares, and a bad ass woman in cut-off jeans.

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16. "RE: The Antianeira Incident"
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   Oh, man, I totally missed this:

> Given that all of this appears in an Epilouge, was the RS tie in always
> part of the plot, or something added at the last minute?

It was always part of the plot. The Red Skull was the one who planned the original assault on Themiscyra during World War II; he 'dug up' the old German records and passed them along in one of his cover identities within the Earth Alliance power structure. He set all of this in motion, and was never actually seen during the story itself. That's what makes him so frightening and so dangerous.

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9. "RE: The Antianeira Incident"
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   and teh awesome just keeps coming! you spoil us...pretty soon little else we read is gonna fulful the enjoyment standard you set. and ok...who's read godstalk? or is there another tai-tastigon...and hmm...jaime would prolly not be a comfortable character to work with. excellently enjoyable. and no i'm not gonna do blow by blow like some folks...i tend to just take things in a gulp and let them sit a bit before rereading and picking them appar

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12. "RE: The Antianeira Incident"
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   That most excellent of Moyers, the mighty Phil, wrote the Roanapur entry as a 'in case we need it'. I was working on this and nicked it up as a nice place to explain the level of scum-n-villiany to those unfamiliar with the source.

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13. "RE: The Antianeira Incident"
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   You know, I was just thinking the other day that UF Geoff would be perfect to have some connection with Roanapur
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14. "RE: The Antianeira Incident"
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   So we have most of the original Senshi having on-screen time already, now for the rest...

And for that matter, when will we actually see them all together as the Senshi, at which point the Duelist, the PPGs, and/or the MKR girls might have some friendly competition. If only Usagi isn't an idea in THIS incarnation. We can only hope. *Goes to hunt down the fic Ami is in (is an unabashed Senshi Mercury fanboy)*

I do have one question though about sticking the Amazons in Cephiro, and it kinda also goes for everyone else that visits - IIRC Gryphon stated that Cephiro is only around 10-15k miles/kilometers across, so around 1/2 the size of Earth. Having a heavy magical representation likely helps, but having any large influx of immigrants is going to put a strain on the local areas surrounding wherever they call home for the short term. Although if this is post-ascension Corwin to the position of Pillar, backed up by full godhood, shouldn't he have the sheer power to cause some expansion to the mini-dimension?

Oh and the (obvious) Black Lagoon references...
I think I actually cringed when I realized where you were going with that. Thankfully the level of 'Unannounced Urban Renewal' that resulted was far, far, less then what I was expecting.

BTW - will we ever see Geoff meet the original UF Batman? Could be...interesting. Bale did do Equilibrium after all.


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15. "RE: The Antianeira Incident"
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   >And for that matter, when will we actually see them all together as
>the Senshi

I don't usually answer this sort of question, but this one, I'll bite: You won't. They don't all live in the same era. It's impossible for all of them to meet. It's like wanting to see Hubert Humphrey as John Quincy Adams's vice president. Simply not going to happen.

>I do have one question though about sticking the Amazons in Cephiro,
>and it kinda also goes for everyone else that visits - IIRC Gryphon
>stated that Cephiro is only around 10-15k miles/kilometers across, so
>around 1/2 the size of Earth.

Cephiro's surface area is smaller than Earth's, but it's also much less densely populated and has a higher proportion of landmass to sea cover. Of its various nations, only industrialized Autozam has a population per square mile that even approaches that of modern-day Earth's built-up areas (Zantoku is roughly equivalent to greater London in both geographic size and population). Some, like desert Shalhara, are (statistically speaking) nearly uninhabited, and most, though they have cities and infrastructure, remain largely rural. Nihonia, for instance, has only one city of real significance (Tenchuu, the traditional seat of the High Priest). Saitou, where Tenjou Academy is, is more like a college town.

>Having a heavy magical representation
>likely helps, but having any large influx of immigrants is going to
>put a strain on the local areas surrounding wherever they call home
>for the short term. Although if this is post-ascension Corwin to the
>position of Pillar, backed up by full godhood, shouldn't he have the
>sheer power to cause some expansion to the mini-dimension?

He could (though it would require a significant patch to the World-Engine's operating image), but it's not necessary. There are only a little more than 1100 Amazons. That many people could settle in a smallish city here in the real world (say Flagstaff, Arizona) without causing insurmountable problems - hell, most universities have (seasonal) populations much larger than that. The Amazons, sturdy and self-sufficient as they are, should have no more trouble establishing New Themyscira on an uninhabited island in the Saitou Sea than they had establishing the original one west of the Azores after they left their first city on the banks of the Thermodon circa 70 BSC.

If there were a million or more of them, resettling them would be a major undertaking and a significant feat of logistics, but as it is, it's like moving the enrollment of a biggish public high school. You'd need quite a lot of buses, but it's not like they'd lay waste to the landscape just by moving across it, like Napoleon's armies. :)

>BTW - will we ever see Geoff meet the original UF Batman?

No data.

>Could be...interesting. Bale did do Equilibrium after all.

He doesn't "play" Bruce Wayne in UF, though. If anybody can be said to, Kevin Conroy does.

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18. "RE: The Antianeira Incident"
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   Just to note something: Steve Rogers seems, for some reason, to have been left out of the cast credits. Oversight?

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19. "RE: The Antianeira Incident"
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   >Just to note something: Steve Rogers seems, for some reason, to have
>been left out of the cast credits. Oversight?

Must've been; there wasn't any reason to leave him out on purpose.

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