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"Fanfare for an Exiled Prince in E-flat Major"
 
   Captain Utena Tenjou of the IPO Space Force
Reserve.

Could I suggest her ship (when she gest one) be named 'Wandering Rose'?

I just cant wait to see the look on her face when she realizes that Reserve personal get a Monthly Stipend.

I was going to suggest that miss Tenjou be a civilian expert in the IPO, and that her "rank" is merely a reflection of her pay grade.
--
I suppose having her recruit Durandal is not out of the Question.
Though I'd like to see what the test of Light for a Rampant AI is going to be like.


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  RE: Fanfare for an Exiled Prince in E-flat Major Gryphonadmin Nov-06-01 1
     RE: Fanfare for an Exiled Prince in E-flat Major remandeteam Nov-06-01 4
         RE: Fanfare for an Exiled Prince in E-flat Major zojojojo Nov-06-01 5
             RE: Fanfare for an Exiled Prince in E-flat Major trussteam Nov-06-01 6
         RE: Fanfare for an Exiled Prince in E-flat Major Neophyte Nov-06-01 8
         RE: Fanfare for an Exiled Prince in E-flat Major Gryphonadmin Nov-06-01 9
             RE: Fanfare for an Exiled Prince in E-flat Major Wedge Nov-06-01 10
                 RE: Fanfare for an Exiled Prince in E-flat Major Gryphonadmin Nov-06-01 11
                     RE: Fanfare for an Exiled Prince in E-flat Major Offsides Nov-06-01 12
                     RE: Fanfare for an Exiled Prince in E-flat Major Kitsune9tl Nov-07-01 17
                         RE: Fanfare for an Exiled Prince in E-flat Major zojojojo Nov-07-01 22
                     RE: Fanfare for an Exiled Prince in E-flat Major trussteam Nov-07-01 23
     RE: Fanfare for an Exiled Prince in E-flat Major Kitsune9tl Nov-06-01 7
         RE: Fanfare for an Exiled Prince in E-flat Major Star Ranger4 Nov-06-01 13
             RE: Fanfare for an Exiled Prince in E-flat Major Kylone Nov-07-01 16
                 RE: Fanfare for an Exiled Prince in E-flat Major JeanneHedge Nov-07-01 18
                     RE: Fanfare for an Exiled Prince in E-flat Major Gryphonadmin Nov-07-01 20
                         RE: Fanfare for an Exiled Prince in E-flat Major BobSchroeck Nov-07-01 21
                             RE: Fanfare for an Exiled Prince in E-flat Major Bodhi Nov-07-01 25
                                 RE: Fanfare for an Exiled Prince in E-flat Major Gryphonadmin Nov-07-01 27
                                     RE: Fanfare for an Exiled Prince in E-flat Major Bodhi Nov-07-01 29
                         RE: Fanfare for an Exiled Prince in E-flat Major JeanneHedge Nov-07-01 26
                             RE: Fanfare for an Exiled Prince in E-flat Major Gryphonadmin Nov-07-01 28
                             RE: Fanfare for an Exiled Prince in E-flat Major ejheckathorn Nov-07-01 31
                                 RE: Fanfare for an Exiled Prince in E-flat Major Chris Redfield Nov-08-01 35
  RE: Fanfare for an Exiled Prince in E-flat Major Wedge Nov-06-01 2
     RE: Fanfare for an Exiled Prince in E-flat Major Gryphonadmin Nov-06-01 3
         RE: Fanfare for an Exiled Prince in E-flat Major Astynax Nov-07-01 14
             RE: Fanfare for an Exiled Prince in E-flat Major ejheckathorn Nov-07-01 15
             RE: Fanfare for an Exiled Prince in E-flat Major Wedge Nov-07-01 19
             RE: Fanfare for an Exiled Prince in E-flat Major trussteam Nov-07-01 24
                 RE: Fanfare for an Exiled Prince in E-flat Major Star Ranger4 Nov-07-01 30
                     RE: Fanfare for an Exiled Prince in E-flat Major Bodhi Nov-07-01 32
                         RE: Fanfare for an Exiled Prince in E-flat Major zojojojo Nov-08-01 33
                             RE: Fanfare for an Exiled Prince in E-flat Major BobSchroeck Nov-08-01 34
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                                 RE: Fanfare for an Exiled Prince in E-flat Major Bodhi Nov-08-01 37
                                     RE: Fanfare for an Exiled Prince in E-flat Major Redneck Nov-08-01 38
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                                         RE: Fanfare for an Exiled Prince in E-flat Major Bodhi Nov-08-01 40
                                     RE: Fanfare for an Exiled Prince in E-flat Major Gryphonadmin Nov-08-01 41
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Gryphonadmin
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1. "RE: Fanfare for an Exiled Prince in E-flat Major"
In response to message #0
 
   >I suppose having her recruit Durandal is not out of the Question.
>Though I'd like to see what the test of Light for a Rampant AI is
>going to be like.

Given that the functions of the Lens are a) uncounterfeitable identification, b) instantaneous communication and b) protection from hostile telepaths, cybernetic entities hardly need them.

--G.
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4. "RE: Fanfare for an Exiled Prince in E-flat Major"
In response to message #1
 
   >>I suppose having her recruit Durandal is not out of the Question.
>>Though I'd like to see what the test of Light for a Rampant AI is
>>going to be like.
>
>Given that the functions of the Lens are a) uncounterfeitable
>identification, b) instantaneous communication and b) protection from
>hostile telepaths, cybernetic entities hardly need them.
>
>--G.

Which makes giving one to Wulfgang all the more dubious. Now he can bark, anywhere, anytime? He can avoid having his brains picked by Psi Corps?

--rR

--rR


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5. "RE: Fanfare for an Exiled Prince in E-flat Major"
In response to message #4
 
   >>>I suppose having her recruit Durandal is not out of the Question.
>>>Though I'd like to see what the test of Light for a Rampant AI is
>>>going to be like.
>>
>>Given that the functions of the Lens are a) uncounterfeitable
>>identification, b) instantaneous communication and b) protection from
>>hostile telepaths, cybernetic entities hardly need them.
>>
>>--G.
>
>Which makes giving one to Wulfgang all the more dubious. Now he can
>bark, anywhere, anytime? He can avoid having his brains picked by Psi
>Corps?


That, and Gryph can tell him to sit, roll over or play dead in any of the 40+ (according to Secrets) languages he speaks. Handy when you're so out of it that you don't know what language you're speaking.


-Z

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6. "RE: Fanfare for an Exiled Prince in E-flat Major"
In response to message #5
 
   >That, and Gryph can tell him to sit, roll over or play dead in any of
>the 40+ (according to Secrets) languages he speaks.

And from anywhere in the Galaxy. :)

--truss.


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8. "RE: Fanfare for an Exiled Prince in E-flat Major"
In response to message #4
 
   >>>I suppose having her recruit Durandal is not out of the Question.
>>>Though I'd like to see what the test of Light for a Rampant AI is
>>>going to be like.
>>
>>Given that the functions of the Lens are a) uncounterfeitable
>>identification, b) instantaneous communication and b) protection from
>>hostile telepaths, cybernetic entities hardly need them.
>>
>>--G.
>
>Which makes giving one to Wulfgang all the more dubious. Now he can
>bark, anywhere, anytime? He can avoid having his brains picked by Psi
>Corps?
>
> --rR

People never think about what they do in front of animals. Picking one's brain would be the perfect way to get eyewitness information, that is if you don't mind the short attention span (OOOH, A BALL!!).

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9. "RE: Fanfare for an Exiled Prince in E-flat Major"
In response to message #4
 
   >>Given that the functions of the Lens are a) uncounterfeitable
>>identification, b) instantaneous communication and b) protection from
>>hostile telepaths, cybernetic entities hardly need them.
>>
>Which makes giving one to Wulfgang all the more dubious. Now he can
>bark, anywhere, anytime? He can avoid having his brains picked by Psi
>Corps?

Silly human. Hounds don't bark, they bay.

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10. "RE: Fanfare for an Exiled Prince in E-flat Major"
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   >>Which makes giving one to Wulfgang all the more dubious. Now he can
>>bark, anywhere, anytime? He can avoid having his brains picked by Psi
>>Corps?
>
>Silly human. Hounds don't bark, they bay.

Hmmmm. Would the Lens also make him Challenger's back-up targeting and tracking system and operator? :)

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11. "RE: Fanfare for an Exiled Prince in E-flat Major"
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   >>Silly human. Hounds don't bark, they bay.
>
>Hmmmm. Would the Lens also make him Challenger's back-up
>targeting and tracking system and operator? :)

A hound who can track subspace disturbances. Now that's amusing.

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12. "RE: Fanfare for an Exiled Prince in E-flat Major"
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   >A hound who can track subspace disturbances. Now that's amusing.
>
The X-19 Warp Basselope :) (Yeah, I know he's a beagle, but the sound similar :)

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17. "RE: Fanfare for an Exiled Prince in E-flat Major"
In response to message #11
 
   >>>Silly human. Hounds don't bark, they bay.
>>
>>Hmmmm. Would the Lens also make him Challenger's back-up
>>targeting and tracking system and operator? :)
>
>A hound who can track subspace disturbances. Now that's amusing.
>

One word.

Fetch.


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22. "RE: Fanfare for an Exiled Prince in E-flat Major"
In response to message #17
 
   >>>>Silly human. Hounds don't bark, they bay.
>>>
>>>Hmmmm. Would the Lens also make him Challenger's back-up
>>>targeting and tracking system and operator? :)
>>
>>A hound who can track subspace disturbances. Now that's amusing.
>>
>
>One word.
>
>Fetch.

He's a hound, not a retriever. You have to tell him to follow the trail.

:)

-Z

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23. "RE: Fanfare for an Exiled Prince in E-flat Major"
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   LAST EDITED ON Nov-07-01 AT 01:22 PM (EST)

>A hound who can track subspace disturbances. Now that's amusing.

"What's that, boy? Zargh's fallen down a gravity well? Show me!"

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7. "RE: Fanfare for an Exiled Prince in E-flat Major"
In response to message #1
 
   >>I suppose having her recruit Durandal is not out of the Question.
>>Though I'd like to see what the test of Light for a Rampant AI is
>>going to be like.
>
>Given that the functions of the Lens are a) uncounterfeitable
>identification, b) instantaneous communication and b) protection from
>hostile telepaths, cybernetic entities hardly need them.
>
If your Borrowing the "template" for these from the Lensman series, then those were just the standard 'basic' functions, as each lens was custom made for each bearer, and also included Selective Eidetic Memory, Locator Beacon, Universal translator, Lie detector, and limited Gestalt apabilites.

If An AI like Durandal were to recieve a Lens, you'd have the Computer System your looking for as it would have both the Memory storage, and near infinite processing speed. Not to mention having the most secure "User" interface and Ultimate in File Protection in existance.

If you have a Computer capable of scaning the Newsgroups and media of a galaxy, you would want to have an AI with (at the very least) the equivalent of a Lens just so you could Trust it to remain sane, and stable.

An AI Passing the test of Light, and gaining a Lens as a central processor would be the Ultimate in Hardware Upgrades.
--
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13. "RE: Fanfare for an Exiled Prince in E-flat Major"
In response to message #7
 
   >>Given that the functions of the Lens are a) uncounterfeitable
>>identification, b) instantaneous communication and b) protection from
>>hostile telepaths, cybernetic entities hardly need them.
>>
>If your Borrowing the "template" for these from the Lensman series,
>then those were just the standard 'basic' functions, as each lens was
>custom made for each bearer, and also included Selective Eidetic
>Memory, Locator Beacon, Universal translator, Lie detector, and
>limited Gestalt apabilites.
>

To which I should point out that we've also seen at least one other function of the UF style lens --- Interdimensional storage. Remember where Eiko pulled Stormbringer from? In the end, I'd expect that since each lens is crafted for each owner, whatever addiotnal features are added is also decided on a case by case basis. Maybe someone like Gryph or Hammer don't need the Inter D storage, while someone like Wolfie would get something that allowed him to converse in an intelligable fashion with other bearers of the lens.

The only way we'll know is once the lenses are used more 'On Camera' or, more likely, one of the central charecters is offically presented with their lens. Gryph will probobly explain more 'officially' at that time.


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16. "RE: Fanfare for an Exiled Prince in E-flat Major"
In response to message #13
 
   >The only way we'll know is once the lenses are used more 'On Camera'
>or, more likely, one of the central characters is offically presented
>with their lens. Gryph will probably explain more 'officially' at
>that time.
>

I'd have to think that since Gryph has put tons and tons of effort in developing the duelists, they will take on a significant role in the 25th century of the UFverse.

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18. "RE: Fanfare for an Exiled Prince in E-flat Major"
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   >I'd have to think that since Gryph has put tons and tons of effort in
>developing the duelists, they will take on a significant role in the
>25th century of the UFverse.

Perhaps I've missed something. You say above that he put "tons and tons of effort in developing the duelists". His daughter, yes. His daugher's roommate, somewhat. The rest of them, the Duelists in general -- when did that happen?


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20. "RE: Fanfare for an Exiled Prince in E-flat Major"
In response to message #18
 
   >>I'd have to think that since Gryph has put tons and tons of effort in
>>developing the duelists, they will take on a significant role in the
>>25th century of the UFverse.
>
>Perhaps I've missed something. You say above that he put "tons and
>tons of effort in developing the duelists". His daughter, yes. His
>daugher's roommate, somewhat. The rest of them, the Duelists in
>general -- when did that happen?

Thanks for the vote of confidence, Jeanne. And people say these forums are populated by nothing but mindless sycophants. :)

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21. "RE: Fanfare for an Exiled Prince in E-flat Major"
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   > And people say these
>forums are populated by nothing but mindless sycophants. :)

Hey! I'll have them know that I am a very thoughtful and intelligent sycophant!

<grin>

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25. "RE: Fanfare for an Exiled Prince in E-flat Major"
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>> And people say these
>>forums are populated by nothing but mindless sycophants. :)
>
>Hey! I'll have them know that I am a very thoughtful and intelligent
>sycophant!
>
>-- Bob

Methinks I agree with Bob. Methinks also that Gryph just slipped the question, such as it was.

Questions:
1. Is UF Gryphon a lensman? Or is his being the Captain of the Challenger preclude that?
2. Are Kei and/or Yuri still with the 3WA?
3. Who is running the WDF? I can only assume -- and I know what that leads to -- the Lord F aka 'Wolfgang' is still alive and kicking.

Sorry if these points have been raised and shot down already. I thought I'd lurked about in all the corners....

Not that I expect answers 'til Gryphon (said, Gree-fon, Hoek) gets damn good and ready to share.

Bodhi

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27. "RE: Fanfare for an Exiled Prince in E-flat Major"
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   >Methinks I agree with Bob. Methinks also that Gryph just slipped
>the question, such as it was.

Slipped what question?

>Questions:
>1. Is UF Gryphon a lensman? Or is his being the Captain of the
>Challenger preclude that?

Lensman isn't necessarily a job so much as a... well, I guess you'd call it a condition. It's perfectly possible to be a Gray Lensman (high-level discretionary agent) and do something else for a career. Marty Rose is a policeman; Eiko Rose is a schoolteacher.

As for Gryphon... hmm... I thought I'd mentioned this during A Rose for the New Year, but it looks like I forgot. Gryphon is not only a Lensman, he's the First Lensman. The prototype Lens was made for him.

>2. Are Kei and/or Yuri still with the 3WA?

No; they're Experts of Justice.

>3. Who is running the WDF?

Supreme Command currently vests in Field Marshal David Ritchie, whose offices are in New Avalon. Command of the WDF Navy (which is, admittedly, the bulk of the force) is currently in the capable hands of Grand Admiral Noriko Rose Takaya, commanding from her flagship, the Executioner-class Star Destroyer Luxion. (The subfleets each have their own admiral in command - right now the Tactical Fleet is Jim Kirk's, the Strategic Fleet is Saavik's, and Rob Mandeville runs the Experimental Fleet.

(We got Kirk to take an admiralty where Starfleet failed because we let him keep his ship. WDF admirals traditionally command from the field - they're more like really powerful commodores.)

>I can only assume -- and I know
>what that leads to -- the Lord F aka 'Wolfgang' is still alive and
>kicking.

As far as anybody knows, he's alive and well. He hasn't been around much lately - been spending a lot of time in the mysterious and unknowable Discordian Confederation, an allied state to the Republic of Zeta Cygni which doesn't get a lot of press or screen time.

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29. "RE: Fanfare for an Exiled Prince in E-flat Major"
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>>Methinks I agree with Bob. Methinks also that Gryph just slipped
>>the question, such as it was.
>
>Slipped what question?

Where the tons and tons of character development for the Duelists is? It's been covered since.

>Lensman isn't necessarily a job so much as a... well, I guess you'd
>call it a condition. It's perfectly possible to be a Gray Lensman
>(high-level discretionary agent) and do something else for a career.
>Marty Rose is a policeman; Eiko Rose is a schoolteacher.

At the risk of sounding very adolescent, where the heck were teachers like her when I was in school?

>As for Gryphon... hmm... I thought I'd mentioned this during A Rose
>for the New Year
, but it looks like I forgot. Gryphon is not only
>a Lensman, he's the First Lensman. The prototype Lens was made for
>him.

That's cleared up. Thanks.

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26. "RE: Fanfare for an Exiled Prince in E-flat Major"
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   At the risk of losing my non-sycophantic status, it just occurred to me that while I was referring to Story-Gryphon in my question, the statement I was questioning was perhaps referring to Real-Gryphon. (yes, it's been one of those weeks already). (we're going to have to come up with some other way to separate story-you from real-you in these discussions...)

My question still stands, as regards to Story-G, while obviously Real-G has put much work into developing these characters (as has anyone else involved in character development), else why would this message board get such large amounts of character-driven traffic?

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28. "RE: Fanfare for an Exiled Prince in E-flat Major"
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   >At the risk of losing my non-sycophantic status, it just occurred to
>me that while I was referring to Story-Gryphon in my question, the
>statement I was questioning was perhaps referring to Real-Gryphon.

Ah. That makes some level of sense, and makes me feel somewhat less ragged upon. :) I'm pretty sure they were talking about the authorial We. :)

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31. "RE: Fanfare for an Exiled Prince in E-flat Major"
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   >(we're going to have to come up with some other way to
>separate story-you from real-you in these discussions...)

How about UF-Gryphon, HL-Gryphon, etc., for the avatars?

We can use this for the other author avatars as well.

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35. "RE: Fanfare for an Exiled Prince in E-flat Major"
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   >How about UF-Gryphon, HL-Gryphon, etc., for the avatars?

HL-Gryphon gave me the mental image of replacing Gordon Freeman with Ben Hutchins (hope I spelled that right) in Half-Life.

I play too many video games though...

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2. "RE: Fanfare for an Exiled Prince in E-flat Major"
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   >I just cant wait to see the look on her face when she realizes that
>Reserve personal get a Monthly Stipend.

Didn't she already get one of Zoner's Debit Cards of Holding? :)

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3. "RE: Fanfare for an Exiled Prince in E-flat Major"
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   >>I just cant wait to see the look on her face when she realizes that
>>Reserve personal get a Monthly Stipend.
>
>Didn't she already get one of Zoner's Debit Cards of Holding? :)

Juri's the only one of them who he actually made Fabulously Wealthy... Utena's just... comfortable. :)

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14. "RE: Fanfare for an Exiled Prince in E-flat Major"
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   >
>Juri's the only one of them who he actually made Fabulously Wealthy...
>Utena's just... comfortable. :)
>

comfortable can have many definitions...

and, did I miss the in story explaination, or is it left unsaid WHY Juri got to have Phenomenal Cosmic Wealth?

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15. "RE: Fanfare for an Exiled Prince in E-flat Major"
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   >and, did I miss the in story explaination, or is it left unsaid WHY
>Juri got to have Phenomenal Cosmic Wealth?

Because MegaZone felt like it, more or less.

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19. "RE: Fanfare for an Exiled Prince in E-flat Major"
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   >and, did I miss the in story explaination, or is it left unsaid WHY
>Juri got to have Phenomenal Cosmic Wealth?

High maintenance.

>"If it has been left unsaid, could someone perhaps fix that?;)"

Unless, of course, it isn't broken. ;)

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24. "RE: Fanfare for an Exiled Prince in E-flat Major"
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   >and, did I miss the in story explaination, or is it left unsaid WHY
>Juri got to have Phenomenal Cosmic Wealth?

Wait... you're asking us to explain the logic behind the way that UF-Zoner spends and distributes his money?

Ye gods, man. We haven't been able to accomplish that with the real one. ;)

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30. "RE: Fanfare for an Exiled Prince in E-flat Major"
In response to message #24
 
   >>and, did I miss the in story explaination, or is it left unsaid WHY
>>Juri got to have Phenomenal Cosmic Wealth?
>
>Wait... you're asking us to explain the logic behind the way that
>UF-Zoner spends and distributes his money?
>
>Ye gods, man. We haven't been able to accomplish that with the
>real one. ;)
>

Huh... It seems pretty simple to me:
#1) Whatever Anime is interesting to him at the moment....
2) Everything else.


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32. "RE: Fanfare for an Exiled Prince in E-flat Major"
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   >Huh... It seems pretty simple to me:
>#1) Whatever Anime is interesting to him at the moment....
>2) Everything else.

Ah, sir...could you vague that up a bit?

Just kidding...I cannot stand in judgement of anyone else due to my bad habit of buying the three-quarters of the guitars I like.

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33. "RE: Fanfare for an Exiled Prince in E-flat Major"
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   >Just kidding...I cannot stand in judgement of anyone else due to my
>bad habit of buying the three-quarters of the guitars I like.

what do you do with 3/4 of a guitar?

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34. "RE: Fanfare for an Exiled Prince in E-flat Major"
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   >what do you do with 3/4 of a guitar?

Play waltzes, I suppose...

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36. "RE: Fanfare for an Exiled Prince in E-flat Major"
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   >>Just kidding...I cannot stand in judgement of anyone else due to my
>>bad habit of buying the three-quarters of the guitars I like.
>
>what do you do with 3/4 of a guitar?
>
>-Z
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37. "RE: Fanfare for an Exiled Prince in E-flat Major"
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   >>what do you do with 3/4 of a guitar?

Not too damn much. I meant I have 6 guitars, cause I cannot afford the other two yet. 6 of 8 equal 3 of 4. However, 7 of 9 was at least an 8.

But I digress...

>Play Stairway to Heave?

No Stairway! Denied! But I got the buzz out of the low E, finally.

Okay how about this question: How did Corwin make a quality sword for Utena so fast? Considering Kate's blade is a zatochi, and probably folded, Utena's must be too or it wouldn't have survived their duel in Toronto.


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38. "RE: Fanfare for an Exiled Prince in E-flat Major"
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   >Okay how about this question: How did Corwin make a quality sword for
>Utena so fast? Considering Kate's blade is a zatochi, and probably
>folded, Utena's must be too or it wouldn't have survived their duel in
>Toronto.

Corwin... demigod.

Demigod... Corwin.

Do the math. };-{D

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39. "RE: Fanfare for an Exiled Prince in E-flat Major"
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   >Okay how about this question: How did Corwin make a quality sword for
>Utena so fast? Considering Kate's blade is a zatochi, and probably
>folded, Utena's must be too or it wouldn't have survived their duel in
>Toronto.

He's a weaponsmith (amoung other things) who pulled an all-nighter, and had some help from Mom, the goddess. How did it survive? Skill of the smith and magic. I'm guessing that the sword is bound to Utena in some way. Maybe it simply can't be broken while she lives... taking that whole the sword is the soul thing to an extreme. Another thing to keep in mind is that they weren't trying to kill each other, despite going all-out, so attacks on the weapon may have been pulled a bit so that no permanent damage was done.

Or at least, that's my crystal cube says. That and a dollar will get you a coffee at Dunkin Donuts.

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40. "RE: Fanfare for an Exiled Prince in E-flat Major"
In response to message #39
 
  
>He's a weaponsmith (amoung other things) who pulled an all-nighter,
>and had some help from Mom, the goddess. How did it survive? Skill of
>the smith and magic. I'm guessing that the sword is bound to Utena in
>some way. Maybe it simply can't be broken while she lives... taking
>that whole the sword is the soul thing to an extreme. Another thing to
>keep in mind is that they weren't trying to kill each other, despite
>going all-out, so attacks on the weapon may have been pulled a bit so
>that no permanent damage was done.

Pretty much the answers I expected. Just wanted to see what the author(s) had to say...Redneck summed it up nicely, too.

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41. "RE: Fanfare for an Exiled Prince in E-flat Major"
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   >Okay how about this question: How did Corwin make a quality sword for
>Utena so fast?

He's the son of the Weaponsmith of Asgard, and has been trained to replace her in that capacity one day. He knows a few tricks.

>Considering Kate's blade is a zatochi, and probably
>folded, Utena's must be too or it wouldn't have survived their duel in
>Toronto.

Metallurgically this isn't a given; we don't actually know what the Thorn is made of. Its composition may be quite exotic compared to Kate's blade, which is plain old ordinary (extremely high-quality) steel.

Plus, it's enchanted, so one doubly can't say.

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45. "RE: Fanfare for an Exiled Prince in E-flat Major"
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   >Metallurgically this isn't a given; we don't actually know what the
>Thorn is made of. Its composition may be quite exotic compared
>to Kate's blade, which is plain old ordinary (extremely high-quality)
>steel.
>
>Plus, it's enchanted, so one doubly can't say.
>
>--G.

Hmmm... enchanted, runed, soul-bonded... nerf?

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42. "RE: Fanfare for an Exiled Prince in E-flat Major"
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   >and, did I miss the in story explaination, or is it left unsaid WHY
>Juri got to have Phenomenal Cosmic Wealth?

It was explained in story when Zoner gave her the debit card...

...because it would annoying Liza to have someone who was prettier, a better fencer, *and* richer on campus.

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43. "RE: Fanfare for an Exiled Prince in E-flat Major"
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   >>and, did I miss the in story explaination, or is it left unsaid WHY
>>Juri got to have Phenomenal Cosmic Wealth?
>
>It was explained in story when Zoner gave her the debit card...
>
>...because it would annoying Liza to have someone who was prettier, a
>better fencer, *and* richer on campus.
>

Spoken like a true chaos-walker, Zoner. ^_^ that and it was somehow appropriate that this was post number 42 because it certainly did seem to answer a question pertaining to life, the universe, and everything.

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44. "RE: Fanfare for an Exiled Prince in E-flat Major"
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   LAST EDITED ON Nov-09-01 AT 02:23 PM (EST)


>Spoken like a true chaos-walker, Zoner. ^_^ that and it was somehow
>appropriate that this was post number 42 because it certainly did seem
>to answer a question pertaining to life, the universe, and everything.

Oh, damn, there goes the neighborhood, reality warping into ever more bizarre and abstract mathmatical junk. Unless its already happened. *grin*

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