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"(490) Check it out, yo."
 
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It's not quite finished - there are a couple of epilogues I want to do, and it still needs a good toothcombing from the Suspects; plus I have to decide whether to Manhuntize it, and there are titles and whatnot to be selected if I do that. Tomorrow will be the day for most of that, I expect. But I just reached the end of the story proper, and that calls for a little bit of bragging.

In total, once you factor out the credits and whatnot, that's very roughly the same size as all of Manhunt. Part of it - a very small part - is more than ten years old; the central gimmick of the original draft featured a completely different New Character, and the A-plot was absolutely heading in a different direction. Almost none of the main references in the story as it has emerged even existed when I started the original version.

And the best part is, it sets up some stuff that I might - just might, I can't promise anything, you know how it goes - be able to use to light a fire under S5, a story set fifty-four years later. You have to love an arc-driven universe.

--G.
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  Subject     Author     Message Date     ID  
  RE: (490) Check it out, yo. Polychrome Mar-07-10 1
  RE: (490) Check it out, yo. The Traitor Mar-07-10 2
     RE: (490) Check it out, yo. Apostate_Soul Mar-07-10 3
         RE: (490) Check it out, yo. dbrandon Mar-08-10 14
  Oh, hey, one thing. Gryphonadmin Mar-07-10 4
     RE: Oh, hey, one thing. trigger Mar-07-10 6
         RE: Oh, hey, one thing. Gryphonadmin Mar-07-10 7
             RE: Oh, hey, one thing. BeardedFerret Mar-07-10 8
                 RE: Oh, hey, one thing. Gryphonadmin Mar-07-10 9
                     RE: Oh, hey, one thing. BeardedFerret Mar-07-10 10
                     RE: Oh, hey, one thing. Offsides Mar-08-10 12
                         RE: Oh, hey, one thing. Gryphonadmin Mar-08-10 13
                             RE: Oh, hey, one thing. Offsides Mar-08-10 15
     RE: Oh, hey, one thing. BobSchroeck Mar-08-10 11
  RE: (490) Check it out, yo. Prince Charon Mar-07-10 5

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1. "RE: (490) Check it out, yo."
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   Huzzah!

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2. "RE: (490) Check it out, yo."
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   Must... keep... caaaaalm... not holding... up...

Auch, ta hell wi'it. SQUEEEEEEEEEEEEE- *asphyxiates*

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3. "RE: (490) Check it out, yo."
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   I'll see your squee and raise by a maniacal laugh...


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14. "RE: (490) Check it out, yo."
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   Can I throw in a maniacal squee, just to be different?


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4. "Oh, hey, one thing."
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   If I do an audio version of this - and I may or may not, I haven't decided yet - you have to promise not to laugh at my pitiful accents. At least not to my face.

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6. "RE: Oh, hey, one thing."
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   >If I do an audio version of this - and I may or may not, I haven't
>decided yet - you have to promise not to laugh at my pitiful accents.
>At least not to my face.
>

Promise. Please do this. Please. The other ones were a lot of fun

looking forward to it,
t.
(full disclosure: I have two months of unholy data analysis and I can't read while that's going on. But listening to the Eyrie stories make things much, much better.)

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7. "RE: Oh, hey, one thing."
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   >>If I do an audio version of this - and I may or may not, I haven't
>>decided yet - you have to promise not to laugh at my pitiful accents.
>>At least not to my face.
>>
>
>Promise. Please do this.

Oh, God, I just realized there's a bit where I'd have to sing, too. Well, it'd be inhuman of me to expect people not to laugh at that. :)

>(full disclosure: I have two months of unholy data analysis and I
>can't read while that's going on. But listening to the Eyrie stories
>make things much, much better.)

Hmm. Well, all right, I'll see what I can do. The reason I can't promise, btw, isn't simple laziness, it's because sometimes my talking-parts don't quite cooperate - lingering effect of the Great Brain Adventure, I think - and I get so disgusted doing retakes after being unable to say "invincible" three or four times in a row. (That's why there's no audio version of Manhunt.)

--G.
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8. "RE: Oh, hey, one thing."
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   There's nothing to be disgusted about. As far as I know there's nothing wrong with my brain and sometimes words just refuse to come out properly when I'm recording. Or, worse, live on air. :(


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9. "RE: Oh, hey, one thing."
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   >There's nothing to be disgusted about.

Not disgusted as in ashamed, disgusted as in oh-the-hell-with-this. :)

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10. "RE: Oh, hey, one thing."
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   Ahhhhh, fair enough then. Carry on.


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12. "RE: Oh, hey, one thing."
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   >>There's nothing to be disgusted about.
>
>Not disgusted as in ashamed, disgusted as in oh-the-hell-with-this. :)
>
It is my great hope that this doesn't happen, because you have a wonderful way of reading your stories with just the right tone to make them even more expressive and have that "reach out and suck you in" feel that makes reading them so much fun. When I read your stories, I have to imagine what the characters sound like, but when you read them I _know_ what they sound like. Yes, I know, you can't do all the same feminine tones that a your female characters should have, but that's not what I'm talking about; there's something different about hearing the author read their character's voices that is more of an intangible factor that gives them another layer of complexity you can't get from reading to yourself, be it aloud or in your head...

I'm probably not explaining it very well, but if you're so excited about this story (and the possibility of recording it), then I can't help but get excited about it too :) Mazal Tov on making it to the end, and I look forward to reading (and listening to) the final product!

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13. "RE: Oh, hey, one thing."
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   >Yes, I know, you can't do all the same
>feminine tones that a your female characters should have, but that's
>not what I'm talking about; there's something different about hearing
>the author read their character's voices that is more of an intangible
>factor that gives them another layer of complexity you can't get from
>reading to yourself, be it aloud or in your head...

Yeah, I know what you're driving at. It has to do with inflection - there are a lot of different ways to say the same sequence of words, and depicting dialogue in text, there's only so much you can do with adverbs. When the author's doing the reading, he knows how he heard the characters deliver their lines, and it can inform his reading. For instance, there's no way for me to reproduce the timbre or frequency range of Tali's voice - I'll be hard pressed just to get her accent somewhere near right - but I do know more or less what's going on in her head when she's talking, and it makes a difference in the finished product.

Mind you, "read by the author" isn't automatically a good thing to see on an audiobook. Some authors have the insight, but can't turn in the performance. Stephen King, for example. He may know what's going on in his characters' heads, but he just hasn't got the voice for the job. Very nasal, sounds like he has a cold. The read-by-the-author edition of The Gunslinger is just excruciating.

--G.
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15. "RE: Oh, hey, one thing."
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   >>Yes, I know, you can't do all the same
>>feminine tones that a your female characters should have, but that's
>>not what I'm talking about; there's something different about hearing
>>the author read their character's voices that is more of an intangible
>>factor that gives them another layer of complexity you can't get from
>>reading to yourself, be it aloud or in your head...
>
>Yeah, I know what you're driving at. It has to do with inflection -
>there are a lot of different ways to say the same sequence of words,
>and depicting dialogue in text, there's only so much you can do with
>adverbs. When the author's doing the reading, he knows how he
>heard the characters deliver their lines, and it can inform his
>reading. For instance, there's no way for me to reproduce the timbre
>or frequency range of Tali's voice - I'll be hard pressed just to get
>her accent somewhere near right - but I do know more or less
>what's going on in her head when she's talking, and it makes a
>difference in the finished product.
>
That's exactly what I was trying to say - thank you!

>Mind you, "read by the author" isn't automatically a good thing
>to see on an audiobook. Some authors have the insight, but can't turn
>in the performance. Stephen King, for example. He may know what's
>going on in his characters' heads, but he just hasn't got the voice
>for the job. Very nasal, sounds like he has a cold. The
>read-by-the-author edition of The Gunslinger is just
>excruciating.
>
Well, yes, but you have a decent voice for this sort of thing, at least in my opinion. There are also people who can get the inflection and so forth right (or at least close enough that it sounds right :)), even though they aren't the author. But most of the time those people are just good actors anyway, and also have excellent speaking voices...

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11. "RE: Oh, hey, one thing."
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   >If I do an audio version of this - and I may or may not, I haven't
>decided yet - you have to promise not to laugh at my pitiful accents.
>At least not to my face.

Of course we won't! We're in New Jersey, it wouldn't do any good.

<grin>

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5. "RE: (490) Check it out, yo."
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   >And the best part is, it sets up some stuff that I might - just might,
>I can't promise anything, you know how it goes - be able to use to
>light a fire under S5, a story set fifty-four years later. You
>have to love an arc-driven universe.

Wow. Cool.

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