Thus. (NSFW.)

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Totally frustrating. Have you considered caltrops?

t.

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Denton, never leave home without it.

"I hate to advocate drugs, alcohol, violence, or insanity to anyone, but they've always worked for me." - HST

The reason I sound so annoyed there is because that was about the sixth time that had happened in the last half-hour or so. At that point I was starting to think longingly about piano wire and telephone poles.

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You'd like my old bike (Farethee well, Electric Blue, you were a good steed until the end). I've heard louder blenders.

Of course, you seem to hate electric vehicles *and* sports motorcycles, so maybe you'd have hated 'Blue on general principles. :)

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-Pasha
What was that feeling again?
Oh yes.
-Rage-

I don't hate electric vehicles. What I hate is the smugness of the culture that's come to surround them, and the ham-fisted tactics the more fanatical stripe of the green lobby often employs to try and force people who don't want them to accept electric vehicles in contexts where, the technology being where it is these days, they simply do not belong. I've said more than once that should the fueling infrastructure for hydrogen fuel cell vehicles become decently entrenched, I think that technology shows a lot of promise.

Sports motorcycles, there again, nothing wrong with them in principle. I had zero interest in having one myself even back in the days when I felt competent to operate such a thing, but that doesn't mean I'm against them as a concept. I will say, though, that it must be very frustrating being a sports motorcycle rider who possesses a lick of sense and/or consideration, because the ones who don't - and there do seem to be an awful lot of them sometimes - make the rest of us hate all of you.

OTOH, really hardcore Harley people, as we saw at the beginning of this conversation, can be just as annoying. I think maybe it's just extremists I don't like, regardless of what their device of choice is. :)

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Also, (speaking as one of the saner members of the eco-lobby), the idiocy of the fanatical stripe in pushing vehicles like the Pious which aren't actually any greener than the same-sized traditional car.

S.

Heh. Just yesterday I was talking with my dad, who was telling me about how his solar panels don't just charge his Nissan Leaf, but provide enough extra power on a sunny day to charge the guy down the street's (literally). Then again, he's got a 26 mile commute. Both ways, the lucky son-of-a-gun.

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-Pasha
What was that feeling again?
Oh yes.
-Rage-

Indeed, and just the sort of commute pure electrics WERE designed for.

past that, I'd have to agree with G. Of the alternatives Hydrogen feels like the way we should be going for vehicles where range/speed of refueling is an issue (ie those of you who dont spend most of your time within 13 miles of home)

You know, you are probably the most mild speaking pissed off person I have ever heard. I'm not really sure how I mean that, except in a neutral to positive light, I just find it remarkable.