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"Question about B5"
 
   First: GREAT STORY!!!!!!!!!!!
When I woke up this morning I felt like shit and, who would have guesed, had a fever. (Note to self: Don't drive 24 kilometers through a fucking rain/snow-storm on a motorized bicycle just to get to your evening classes! Physical education isn't _THAT_ important!) But once I got the energy to leave my bed and and turn on my computer I went to eyrie first. (I had this strange feeling as if something was calling me... really!) And there it was SOS6, finally. The rest of the day was much more enjoyable. Thanks! ^^

So, now to my question: Who is the chief enginer(sp?) of B5? I doubt it's O'Brien, with Kira we already have a DS9 Character and the second in command is allready a starfleet officer. Is it going to be a Klingon?


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  RE: Question about B5 Redneck Nov-10-01 1
     RE: Question about B5 remandeteam Nov-10-01 3
         RE: Question about B5 Star Ranger4 Nov-10-01 6
     RE: Question about B5 Laudre Nov-11-01 7
  RE: Question about B5 Gryphonadmin Nov-10-01 2
     RE: Question about B5 Blob Nov-10-01 4
         RE: Question about B5 Gryphonadmin Nov-10-01 5
     And two more. bparanial Nov-12-01 8
         RE: And two more. Luc Nov-12-01 9
             RE: And two more. zojojojo Nov-12-01 10
             RE: And two more. ejheckathorn Nov-12-01 11
                 RE: And two more. trussteam Nov-12-01 12
                     RE: And two more. bparanial Nov-12-01 13
                         RE: And two more. Laudre Nov-12-01 14
                             RE: And two more. zojojojo Nov-12-01 15
                                 RE: And two more. remandeteam Nov-13-01 18
             RE: And two more. Redneck Nov-12-01 16
                 RE: And two more. Star Ranger4 Nov-12-01 17
                 RE: And two more. trigger Nov-13-01 19
                     RE: And two more. Gryphonadmin Nov-13-01 20
                         RE: And two more. BobSchroeck Nov-13-01 21
                             RE: And two more. Gryphonadmin Nov-13-01 22
                                 RE: And two more. Polychrome Nov-13-01 23
                                 RE: And two more. BobSchroeck Nov-14-01 24

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Redneck
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1. "RE: Question about B5"
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   >So, now to my question: Who is the chief enginer(sp?) of B5? I doubt
>it's O'Brien, with Kira we already have a DS9 Character and the second
>in command is allready a starfleet officer. Is it going to be a
>Klingon?

Poor O'Brien... Star Trek's only -enlisted- man. }:-{D

I should -like- to think that, in UF, the chief engineer of a five-mile-long orbital habitat is an -officer...- }:-{D

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Nov-10-01, 08:15 PM (EDT)
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3. "RE: Question about B5"
In response to message #1
 
   >Poor O'Brien... Star Trek's only -enlisted- man. }:-{D
>
>I should -like- to think that, in UF, the chief engineer of a
>five-mile-long orbital habitat is an -officer...- }:-{D
>
>Redneck

A: Remember, O'Brien got his commision at DS9. In TNG, "Chief" was his rank. In DS9, it was his office.

B: Never underestimate a sufficiently experienced Chief. My dad was a navy Chief Petty Officer, and one of the job descriptions of said rank is "Train your lieutenant". In theory, every fresh Ensign outranks the Chief Petty Officer of the Navy. In truth, low-grade officers don't mess with high-grade Chiefs.

--rR

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6. "RE: Question about B5"
In response to message #3
 
   >>Poor O'Brien... Star Trek's only -enlisted- man. }:-{D
>>
>>I should -like- to think that, in UF, the chief engineer of a
>>five-mile-long orbital habitat is an -officer...- }:-{D
>>
>>Redneck
>
>A: Remember, O'Brien got his commision at DS9. In TNG, "Chief" was
>his rank. In DS9, it was his office.
>
>B: Never underestimate a sufficiently experienced Chief. My dad was a
>navy Chief Petty Officer, and one of the job descriptions of said rank
>is "Train your lieutenant". In theory, every fresh Ensign outranks
>the Chief Petty Officer of the Navy. In truth, low-grade officers
>don't mess with high-grade Chiefs.

Let us re-phrase this... SMART Ensigns shut up and listen. Dumb ones try and stick their oar in and make a mess of things. I've seen it happen to a division; the Senior chief for that division just shut up and let the Ensign try, totaly flumoxing things; until the Combat Systems Officer came down on him like a ton of bricks... On the Ensign. One of the few repeatable comments were "You've got one of my best chiefs... LISTEN TO HIM. He's forgotten more than you'll EVER know!!"

In fact, senior NCO's ARE responsible for turning dangerous butter-bars straight from the various institutions into semi responsible officers.

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7. "RE: Question about B5"
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   >Poor O'Brien... Star Trek's only -enlisted- man. }:-{D

One of the more annoying ST continuity gaffs. On TNG (even in the series finale, "All Good Things...") O'Brien was a commissioned officer the entire way: an ensign at the time of "Encounter at Farpoint" (as established in "All Good Things..."), but Lieutenant (jg) when he first appeared on TNG with the title of Transporter Chief. When Worf's human foster parents first showed up on the Enterprise, Worf's father says something about O'Brien being an enlisted man, even though he's clearly wearing two gold pips (or maybe it was still a gold pip and a black pip; I forget) on his collar, in an officer's uniform, and standing in the same scene is a yeoman or somesuch in an enlisted crew uniform, with no rank indicator that I recall. O'Brien didn't take it well, but didn't say anything; somehow, though, on DS9, he was an enlisted man.

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2. "RE: Question about B5"
In response to message #0
 
   >First: GREAT STORY!!!!!!!!!!!
[snip]
>And there it was SOS6, finally. The rest of the day was
>much more enjoyable. Thanks! ^^

You're welcome. :)

>So, now to my question: Who is the chief enginer(sp?) of B5? I doubt
>it's O'Brien,

Well, then, you lose. :)

International Police Station Babylon Five's chief engineering officer is, in fact, Lieutenant Commander Miles O'Brien, IPO Space Force.

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4. "RE: Question about B5"
In response to message #2
 
   >>So, now to my question: Who is the chief enginer(sp?) of B5? I doubt
>>it's O'Brien,
>
>Well, then, you lose. :)
>
>International Police Station Babylon Five's chief engineering officer
>is, in fact, Lieutenant Commander Miles O'Brien, IPO Space Force.

Oh well... I just thought that you could throw another Organization into the commandstaff of B5 while you were at it. ^_^
But now that I think about it, I can't think of any other person I'd use as B5's Chief engineer.

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Gryphonadmin
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5. "RE: Question about B5"
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   >Oh well... I just thought that you could throw another Organization
>into the commandstaff of B5 while you were at it. ^_^

Sheesh. There are already three... four if you count the Imperial Klingon battlecruiser on special assigment to the IPO-SF...

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8. "And two more."
In response to message #2
 
   >
>International Police Station Babylon Five's chief engineering officer
>is, in fact, Lieutenant Commander Miles O'Brien, IPO Space Force.

Intertesting to know. Hope you actually *remember* what his rank so that,
you don't eventually make an NCO of him :-).
Now two other Questions:
Who is the Station Chief Medical Officer? (Probaly either Franklin or Bashir,
hoping it's the former, even though he is a stim junkie).


Did UF's President Clarke get his job the same way his source material
counterpart did, ie. by Blowing up one President Luis Santiago?

*Wonders if any stories on that have aired on Network 23*

Brad


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Luc
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9. "RE: And two more."
In response to message #8
 
   >>International Police Station Babylon Five's chief engineering officer
>>is, in fact, Lieutenant Commander Miles O'Brien, IPO Space Force.
>
>Intertesting to know. Hope you actually *remember* what his rank so
>that,
> you don't eventually make an NCO of him :-).
> Now two other Questions:
>Who is the Station Chief Medical Officer? (Probaly either Franklin or
>Bashir,
>hoping it's the former, even though he is a stim junkie).

Personally, I hope it's Doc Phelox (or however you spell it; the Doctor from Enterprise).

>Did UF's President Clarke get his job the same way his source material
>counterpart did, ie. by Blowing up one President Luis Santiago?
>
>*Wonders if any stories on that have aired on Network 23*

It hasn't been mentioned yet *who* is President of the Earth Alliance, IIRC.

Thanks
Luc "Ivanova Won" French


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10. "RE: And two more."
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   >>Did UF's President Clarke get his job the same way his source material
>>counterpart did, ie. by Blowing up one President Luis Santiago?
>>
>>*Wonders if any stories on that have aired on Network 23*
>
>It hasn't been mentioned yet *who* is President of the Earth Alliance,
>IIRC.

My guess is the it's still Santiago (or whoever) so that Clarke can blow him up to get the post.

And I'm sure the Truss will have a few things to say on the air, should this come to pass.

-Z

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11. "RE: And two more."
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   >It hasn't been mentioned yet *who* is President of the Earth Alliance,
>IIRC.

Actually, it's mentioned in passing in Hogtown Rhapsody that the EA President is Clark.

No word on how he got the position, though.

Eric J. Heckathorn
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12. "RE: And two more."
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   >Actually, it's mentioned in passing in Hogtown Rhapsody that
>the EA President is Clark.
>
>No word on how he got the position, though.

He was elected -- nothing more, nothing less.

--truss.


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13. "RE: And two more."
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   >He was elected -- nothing more, nothing less.
>
So the poor people of Earth have no excuses whatsoever for the
fact that they are living under a Facist Dictatorship.

Brad



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14. "RE: And two more."
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   >>He was elected -- nothing more, nothing less.
>>
>So the poor people of Earth have no excuses whatsoever for the
>fact that they are living under a Facist Dictatorship.

I've heard it said that, in a democracy (or a republic, as the case may be) the people get the government they deserve.

(What that has to do with the current American government is let as an exercise for the individual.)

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15. "RE: And two more."
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   >>>He was elected -- nothing more, nothing less.
>>>
>>So the poor people of Earth have no excuses whatsoever for the
>>fact that they are living under a Facist Dictatorship.
>
>I've heard it said that, in a democracy (or a republic, as the case
>may be) the people get the government they deserve.

That's true even outside of democracies and republics...

-Z

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18. "RE: And two more."
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   >>I've heard it said that, in a democracy (or a republic, as the case
>>may be) the people get the government they deserve.
>
>That's true even outside of democracies and republics...
>
>-Z

You tell the Afghans that.

--rR

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16. "RE: And two more."
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>>Did UF's President Clarke get his job the same way his source material
>>counterpart did, ie. by Blowing up one President Luis Santiago?
>>
>>*Wonders if any stories on that have aired on Network 23*
>
>It hasn't been mentioned yet *who* is President of the Earth Alliance,
>IIRC.

BTW, the Presidency of the Earth Alliance is not synonymous with the Presidency of the Federation High Council.

Just clarifying...

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17. "RE: And two more."
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   >
>>>Did UF's President Clarke get his job the same way his source material
>>>counterpart did, ie. by Blowing up one President Luis Santiago?
>>>
>>>*Wonders if any stories on that have aired on Network 23*
>>
>>It hasn't been mentioned yet *who* is President of the Earth Alliance,
>>IIRC.
>
>BTW, the Presidency of the Earth Alliance is not synonymous with the
>Presidency of the Federation High Council.
>
>Just clarifying...
>

True, but that doesn't mean anything till the FHC gets off its backside and stands up to Earthdome... Maybe the Babalon Foundation can get them to do that. Or maybe not... only future stories will tell. ^_^


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19. "RE: And two more."
In response to message #16
 
  
>BTW, the Presidency of the Earth Alliance is not synonymous with the
>Presidency of the Federation High Council.

That is a nice distinction. Who is the president of the Federation High Council?

t.

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20. "RE: And two more."
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   >>BTW, the Presidency of the Earth Alliance is not synonymous with the
>>Presidency of the Federation High Council.
>
>That is a nice distinction. Who is the president of the Federation
>High Council?

If the Star Trek movies are any indication, some pompous guy with white hair.

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21. "RE: And two more."
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   >>That is a nice distinction. Who is the president of the Federation
>>High Council?
>If the Star Trek movies are any indication, some pompous guy
>with white hair.

Well. That narrows it down substantially...

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22. "RE: And two more."
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   >>>That is a nice distinction. Who is the president of the Federation
>>>High Council?
>>If the Star Trek movies are any indication, some pompous guy
>>with white hair.
>
>Well. That narrows it down substantially...

Sorry... what I meant by that was, with Earthdome gathering so much influence in the High Council these days, it's starting to seem as if it doesn't particularly matter who the Federation President is, so as of right now I haven't given him any particular thought.

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23. "RE: And two more."
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   >>>>That is a nice distinction. Who is the president of the Federation
>>>>High Council?
>>>If the Star Trek movies are any indication, some pompous guy
>>>with white hair.
>>
>>Well. That narrows it down substantially...
>
>Sorry... what I meant by that was, with Earthdome gathering so much
>influence in the High Council these days, it's starting to seem as if
>it doesn't particularly matter who the Federation President is, so as
>of right now I haven't given him any particular thought.

Valorum, perhaps?

Polychrome


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24. "RE: And two more."
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   >>Well. That narrows it down substantially...
>Sorry... what I meant by that was, with Earthdome gathering so much
>influence in the High Council these days, it's starting to seem as if
>it doesn't particularly matter who the Federation President is, so as
>of right now I haven't given him any particular thought.

No, my apologies to you; that was supposed to be a comment on their anonymous interchangability, and it came out wrong.

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