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"Musings on Twilight's AFU Internal Timeline"
 
   One thing I've noticed while working on Desolation Angel, specifically the parts having to do with the Ragnarök, is that the timing of events described in Twilight doesn't work. One of the few time stamps in the story itself has the opening scene in Zoner's office taking place on September 5, 2390; the next scene is tagged "six days later" (coincidentally the 11th of September, written four years before that date would have any particular outside significance).

Then an elaborate series of events are depicted without any time stamps and involving few explicit indications of how long anything took (and those, as we will see anon, are deeply suspect), after which the following occur in distinct succession:

- The overnight before the Last Battle.
- The battle itself, taking all of the next day.
- The race to rebuild the World-Engine, which is shown to take place in the evening.

The very next time stamp we have, and the one on which I based the dating of the Twilight-linked parts of Desolation Angel, is in the output from the World-Engine's reactivation, and shows that Yggdrasil was rebooted at 7:43 in the evening on September 12.

Working backward from there, that indicates that the Last Battle must have been during the day on the 12th. But the scenes depicting Skuld's recruitment of Gryphon et al. were already established to have happened on the 11th, and it's obviously not especially early in the morning or anything when she turns up in New Avalon.

What this means is that Gryphon and his team are supposed to have flown - in hyperspace! - from New Avalon to Tatooine, and then from there to Enigma X-21, in the course of a single day. There are references in the second and third episodes to those flights having taken about three and five hours, respectively, which is frankly insane. During that same span of time - no more than a regular workday - Concordia (which fair enough, I guess, she has fold drive), Charlemagne (warp drive), and Chimaera (hyperdrive only!) are all supposed to have dropped whatever they were doing, pulled in all their related assets, and made it to X-21 as well.

Following this, everyone transits the black hole and arrives in Asgard, there are meeting with the gods, all the enormously complicated logistical assets involved in the operation have to be landed and organized, camps set up, and so on. It's still Tuesday while all of that is happening. Even if Asgard is in some cosmic equivalent of the Alaska time zone, it's all just not very practical, particularly the preposterously short Daggerdisc flight times and the same-day X-21 force rendezvous.

I think I was trying to account for this, unconsciously, when I set the original version of Agreement in Principle on the first of September, the idea being that they already knew the game was afoot in Muspelheim and were setting bits of the machinery in motion according to a preliminary timetable. The problem there is that there's no way for the Phoenix Queen's crew to get a line on what's going on before Gryphon and co. are informed of what's going on by Skuld and get the aforementioned WDF, GENOM, and CFMF forces moving. Before then, there's nothing in the æther to indicate that anything is happening.

What's needed is a more realistic version of the "middle" portion of the Twilight timeline. All of G&Co's running around to organize the team and whatnot could not realistically be accomplished in much less than a week with a hyperdrive-equipped starship, however fast. It's a long damn way from Tatooine to anywhere, but particularly a black hole in the Enigma sector. That is also a more realistic time - just - for the redeployment of three major warships belonging to three different fleets, converging on X-21 from the far corners of known space; and - most importantly for our present purposes - it gives Azula's crew enough time between her capture and Go Time to figure out what's happening and get the Phoenix Queen over there as well.

I don't think I'm going to bother modifying Twilight itself to fix this mess - at last not right away - but it needed addressing for the revised timing of Agreement in Principle. I didn't want to move the endpoint (that has implications for Corwin and Leonard's birthdays), so what went before it needed rearranging.

I tinkered with it for a while this morning, and this is what I finally came up with.


DateEvent(s)
Friday, August 24, 2390MegaZone possessed by Loki; disappears.
Saturday, August 25(silent machinations)
Sunday, August 26Balder slain.
Monday, August 27 - Friday, August 31Little Fimbulvetr. Urd decamps to Tatooine to get as drunk as possible. Bell withdraws to Tomodachi. Muspelheim forces gather. Archduke Ozai has an idea.
Saturday, Sept. 1Skuld arrives in New Avalon. Gryphon, R-Type, and Redneck put out calls for Concordia, Chimaera, and Charlemagne (respectively) to withdraw from current operations and make best speed to Enigma X-21. Gryphon's team departs in Daggerdisc for Tatooine; Redneck's team departs (means unspecified) for Tomodachi.
Sunday, Sept. 2 - Tuesday, Sept. 4(transit days)
Wednesday, Sept. 5, 2390Gryphon's team recruits Urd on Tatooine. Redneck's team recruits Belldandy on Tomodachi, then mirror-transits to Daggerdisc at Tatooine. Daggerdisc departs for Enigma X-21.
Thursday, Sept. 6Agreement in Principle (revised). Azula captured; Veronica uncovers comm traffic relating to aforementioned fleet reassignments. Phoenix Queen heads for X-21.
Friday, Sept 7 - Sunday, Sept. 9(Daggerdisc en route; task force elements rendezvous over course of 8th through 10th)
Monday, Sept. 10Daggerdisc arrives X-21 late PM. Midgard task force prepares for transit.
Tuesday, Sept. 11Task force transits X-21. Midgard forces arrive, AM. Day spent setting up camps, coordinating logistics, etc. (Still probably should be a multi-day process but w/e.) Phoenix Queen transits X-21, arrives Asgard mid-day, right in the middle of the scrum. Night of Dread.
Wednesday, Sept. 12Ragnarök. World-Engine rebuild/restart. Metroplex Conference. Party begins.
Thursday, Sept. 13, 2390Party continues into wee hours (all day for some). Katara-Azula Armistice. Most of Midgard contingent departs late in day. Avatars return to Spirit World.
Friday, Sept. 14Phoenix Queen departs Asgard.

Also, here's a quick-and-dirty calendar version, which may make it a little easier to envision. Not everything from the table above fit in the boxes, but you get the idea.

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  Subject     Author     Message Date     ID  
  RE: Musings on Twilight's AFU Internal Timeline jonathanlennox May-01-14 1
     RE: Musings on Twilight's AFU Internal Timeline Gryphonadmin May-01-14 3
         RE: Musings on Twilight's AFU Internal Timeline JeanneHedge May-02-14 11
             RE: Musings on Twilight's AFU Internal Timeline Gryphonadmin May-02-14 12
                 RE: Musings on Twilight's AFU Internal Timeline JeanneHedge May-07-14 19
                     RE: Musings on Twilight's AFU Internal Timeline Gryphonadmin May-07-14 20
  RE: Musings on Twilight's AFU Internal Timeline VoidRandom May-01-14 2
     RE: Musings on Twilight's AFU Internal Timeline Gryphonadmin May-01-14 4
         RE: Musings on Twilight's AFU Internal Timeline mdg1 May-02-14 9
  RE: Musings on Twilight's AFU Internal Timeline Mercutio May-02-14 5
     RE: Musings on Twilight's AFU Internal Timeline Zemyla May-02-14 6
         RE: Musings on Twilight's AFU Internal Timeline The Traitor May-02-14 7
             RE: Musings on Twilight's AFU Internal Timeline Senji May-02-14 8
                 RE: Musings on Twilight's AFU Internal Timeline The Traitor May-03-14 13
                     RE: Musings on Twilight's AFU Internal Timeline Terminus Est May-03-14 15
                         RE: Musings on Twilight's AFU Internal Timeline The Traitor May-03-14 16
                             RE: Musings on Twilight's AFU Internal Timeline Bushido May-04-14 17
                                 RE: Musings on Twilight's AFU Internal Timeline The Traitor May-06-14 18
  RE: Musings on Twilight's AFU Internal Timeline Peter Eng May-03-14 14

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jonathanlennox
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1. "RE: Musings on Twilight's AFU Internal Timeline"
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   All of this retcon is only necessary if the timestamp on Yggdrasil's boot sequence is accurate.

It's been down, and it's just booting up. It hasn't synced to its NTP server yet...


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3. "RE: Musings on Twilight's AFU Internal Timeline"
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   >All of this retcon is only necessary if the timestamp on Yggdrasil's
>boot sequence is accurate.

Which it needs to be, because

>>I didn't want to move the endpoint (that has implications for Corwin and
>>Leonard's birthdays), so what went before it needed rearranging.

(There are also other reasons not available for public viewing yet, so don't start about gestational uncertainties.)

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11. "RE: Musings on Twilight's AFU Internal Timeline"
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   >>All of this retcon is only necessary if the timestamp on Yggdrasil's
>>boot sequence is accurate.
>
>Which it needs to be, because
>
>>>I didn't want to move the endpoint (that has implications for Corwin and
>>>Leonard's birthdays), so what went before it needed rearranging.
>
>(There are also other reasons not available for public viewing yet, so
>don't start about gestational uncertainties.)


"it needs to be" isn't good enough. At least for what's going on in Heaven. Does time even apply in Heaven? Other than for convenience sake - knowing when to change shifts and giving the night and morning birds a clue when to sing, and stuff like that. And if they do jigger around with time for convenience sake (slowing / extending days etc), would mortal man even notice?

No, I'm not explaining this well.

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12. "RE: Musings on Twilight's AFU Internal Timeline"
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   >>>All of this retcon is only necessary if the timestamp on Yggdrasil's
>>>boot sequence is accurate.
>>
>>Which it needs to be, because
>>
>>>>I didn't want to move the endpoint.
>
>"it needs to be" isn't good enough.

... really? "I, the author, require this timing of events for authorial purposes" is in some way insufficient? I believe I'm not having that. :)

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19. "RE: Musings on Twilight's AFU Internal Timeline"
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   >>>>All of this retcon is only necessary if the timestamp on Yggdrasil's
>>>>boot sequence is accurate.
>>>
>>>Which it needs to be, because
>>>
>>>>>I didn't want to move the endpoint.
>>
>>"it needs to be" isn't good enough.
>
>... really? "I, the author, require this timing of events for
>authorial purposes" is in some way insufficient? I believe I'm not
>having that. :)


Don't have it then.

Going back to the old C+C days, this honestly, really, truly, should not be an issue for you, let alone any writer. So you wrote something that doesn't fit your current timeline. Well, you've been dealing with gods and time travellers regularly in your stories. You've already had at least one in-story instance where your characters were mucking around with multiple people's personal timelines for the sake of personal convenience (just to attend a wedding). Why couldn't it be done to make things more convenient for mortals and others attending Armageddon? Given some thought as to how to do it, you might be able to cover things in an offhand mention maybe a couple paragraphs long. ("thank goodness for time lords. Kate thinks we were only gone for 3 days, she likes the babysitter but wouldn't like us being gone for a month at all!" - a case of tell, not show)


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20. "RE: Musings on Twilight's AFU Internal Timeline"
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   >Going back to the old C+C days, this honestly, really, truly, should
>not be an issue for you

... and it honestly, really, truly isn't, because - as shown in the original post - I've fixed it. :)

>Why couldn't it be
>done to make things more convenient for mortals and others attending
>Armageddon?

The part of the Twilight timeline that wasn't working with Desolation Angel had to do with people the gods (who are not omniscient, although Heimdall occasionally comes close) were not aware would be involved; the Phoenix Queen's crew gatecrashed. On a meta-level, they required more time to work with than the original timeline gave them. So I repaired it. A half-hour's work with a calendar, a calculator, and the few available date stamps in the older material; no cause for drama.

The original post in this thread was meant to be informative, it wasn't me asking to be talked out of something. :)

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2. "RE: Musings on Twilight's AFU Internal Timeline"
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   Any chance you can just assume that Skuld (and later her sisters) is jiggering the travel timing?

"They copied all they could follow, but they couldn't copy my mind,
And I left 'em sweating and stealing a year and a half behind."


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4. "RE: Musings on Twilight's AFU Internal Timeline"
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   >Any chance you can just assume that Skuld (and later her sisters) is
>jiggering the travel timing?

That does rather the opposite of helping the Phoenix Queen's situation, which is the reason I got into this mess in the first place. :)

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9. "RE: Musings on Twilight's AFU Internal Timeline"
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   >>Any chance you can just assume that Skuld (and later her sisters) is
>>jiggering the travel timing?
>
>That does rather the opposite of helping the Phoenix Queen's
>situation, which is the reason I got into this mess in the first
>place. :)

Oh, that's easy... Surtur recruited The War Chief to play time games with the Aesir & their allies. He couldn't do anything too nasty (to avoid getting bit by paradox) but he was able to mangle arrival times quite nicely.

Mario


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5. "RE: Musings on Twilight's AFU Internal Timeline"
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   > Redneck's team departs (means unspecified) for Tomodachi.

I choose to believe that, through a series of unfortunate logistical congruences and people who could pull strings for them being off-sphere, Redneck and Company were forced to actually fly commercial.

They did not care for it.

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6. "RE: Musings on Twilight's AFU Internal Timeline"
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   >> Redneck's team departs (means unspecified) for Tomodachi.
>
>I choose to believe that, through a series of unfortunate logistical
>congruences and people who could pull strings for them being
>off-sphere, Redneck and Company were forced to actually fly
>commercial.
>
>They did not care for it.
"Are you traveling for business or pleasure?"

"We go to fight in the Ragnarok, and keep the universe from being plunged into eternal fire."

"So... 'pleasure', then?"


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7. "RE: Musings on Twilight's AFU Internal Timeline"
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   "No, sir, for some utterly unfathomable reason this airline does not allow passengers to take anti-tank weaponry as hand luggage."

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8. "RE: Musings on Twilight's AFU Internal Timeline"
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   >"No, sir, for some utterly unfathomable reason this airline does not
>allow passengers to take anti-tank weaponry as hand luggage."
>
"Excuse me. I think you'll find that Redneck's luggage is a diplomatic bag and you aren't allowed to open it."

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13. "RE: Musings on Twilight's AFU Internal Timeline"
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   LAST EDITED ON May-03-14 AT 12:49 PM (EDT)
 
"Oh, I beg your pardon, sir. I shall refrain from looking at the obvious gun-shaped bulges in Mr. Overstreet's carry-on bag lest it endanger some diplomatic meeting of world-ending importance rather than the occupants of a confined, pressurised spaceflight. Please accept this lunch token for the Super Weenie Hut Jrs. in the departure lounge by way of an apology."

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"She's old, she's lame, she's barren too, // "She's not worth feed or hay, // "But I'll give her this," - he blew smoke at me - // "She was something in her day." -- Garnet Rogers, Small Victory

FiMFiction.net: we might accept blatant porn involving the cast of My Little Pony but as God is my witness we have standards.

I thought I'd be able to resist being an obstructive bureaucrat. I was so, so wrong.


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15. "RE: Musings on Twilight's AFU Internal Timeline"
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   ...at which point he demonstrates his beamstaff and renders the entire argument moot because he's completely capable of dismantling the ship with his bare hands. And some ration packs.


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16. "RE: Musings on Twilight's AFU Internal Timeline"
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   "... If sir would care to fill out the Ghastly Death-Dealing Ancient Laser Weapon As Hand Luggage section on form 15b, just here, we're sure we can get you to where you need to be very promptly. Just so long as it's far, far away from our starport. And staff. And loved ones. No, I can't smell burning hair, Perkins, why would you even ask that?"

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FiMFiction.net: we might accept blatant porn involving the cast of My Little Pony but as God is my witness we have standards.

There is a certain type of person who will, with a minimum of both fuss and brainpower, simply sit behind a desk and withstand any and all violence upon their person purely because they know themselves to be right; they've got the forms to prove it and everything. I believe they congregate in the DMV in the US, but over here they're mostly in JobCentres, buildings for receiving unemployment benefit clad mostly in a jaunty, faintly condescending irony.


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17. "RE: Musings on Twilight's AFU Internal Timeline"
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   Do recall that we're referring to Overstreet here. That's not a double ended lightsaber, it's his own energy manifested as a beam staff.

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18. "RE: Musings on Twilight's AFU Internal Timeline"
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   Yeah, but is Officious Starport Baggage Control Officer #4 going to know that? Probably not.

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14. "RE: Musings on Twilight's AFU Internal Timeline"
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   >One thing I've noticed while working on Desolation Angel,
>specifically the parts having to do with the Ragnarök, is that the
>timing of events described in Twilight doesn't work.

>Working backward from there, that indicates that the Last Battle must
>have been during the day on the 12th. But the scenes depicting
>Skuld's recruitment of Gryphon et al. were already established
>to have happened on the 11th, and it's obviously not especially early
>in the morning or anything when she turns up in New Avalon.
>
>What this means is that Gryphon and his team are supposed to have
>flown - in hyperspace! - from New Avalon to Tatooine, and then from
>there to Enigma X-21, in the course of a single day.

Challenging.

I like your proposed fix better than "It was the Ragnarok, time was AFU."

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