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Star Ranger4
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Jan-17-02, 10:44 PM (EDT) |
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"The Lovely Angels"
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You know, after scoring the first 10 episodes of the orignal TV series (thanks to Zoner's auctions), I really don't see how they get their nickname. Yes, there is some distruction, but nothing compared to the level that you see in... oh, Affair on Nolandia, for example. Of course, It COULD just be them toneing it down a BIT for TV... which would also explain why their such ditzes at times (ususally when being shot at by large numbers of automatic weapons.), since the culture does seem to have a thing about women being not as good as men in some respects. Also, in the Cannon (deliberat misspelling for humor value, folks!) is the Lovely Angel itself armed? I have seen a single instance of space combat where they shoot at someone... and they jumped out of the LA and used very large caliber personal weapons to to it. ___________________ Of COURSE you wern't expecting it!! NO ONE expects the Fanish Inquisition!! Of COURSE you wernt expecting it! No One expects the FANNISH INQUISITION! RCW# 86 |
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Star Ranger4
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Jan-18-02, 09:30 AM (EDT) |
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2. "RE: The Lovely Angels"
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>>You know, after scoring the first 10 episodes of the orignal TV series > >Minor corrections - those are 10 OAVs. > >The TV series still hasn't been released. >OH. Gomen Naisai! ___________________ Of COURSE you wern't expecting it!! NO ONE expects the Fanish Inquisition!! Of COURSE you wernt expecting it! No One expects the FANNISH INQUISITION! RCW# 86 |
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Dreamshadow
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Jan-18-02, 09:45 AM (EDT) |
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3. "RE: The Lovely Angels"
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>You know, after scoring the first 10 episodes of the orignal TV series >(thanks to Zoner's auctions), I really don't see how they get their >nickname. Yes, there is some distruction, but nothing compared to the >level that you see in... oh, Affair on Nolandia, for example. > >Of course, It COULD just be them toneing it down a BIT for TV... which >would also explain why their such ditzes at times (ususally when being >shot at by large numbers of automatic weapons.), since the culture >does seem to have a thing about women being not as good as men in some >respects. IIRC, The OAVs were done after a move or two had been done. Also, the Dirty Pair came from some novels that were written long before any animation was done. In the books, MUGHI was described and sketched as a displacer beast looking creature. A lot of the background for the two come from these novels, though I've never seen them or even been able to find them online. If you can find them, it might provide more insight for you on the background. >Also, in the Cannon (deliberat misspelling for humor value, folks!) is >the Lovely Angel itself armed? I have seen a single instance of space >combat where they shoot at someone... and they jumped out of the LA >and used very large caliber personal weapons to to it. I think it is...*shrug* I also think they enjoy the personal touch! Tom 'Dreamshadow' Tjarks ------------------------ "There are no answers, only cross references." |
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Logan D
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Jan-18-02, 12:41 PM (EDT) |
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4. "RE: The Lovely Angels"
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LAST EDITED ON Jan-18-02 AT 12:46 PM (EST) >is the Lovely Angel itself armed? I have seen a single >instance of space combat where they shoot at someone... >and they jumped out of the LA and used very large >caliber personal weapons to to it. In short, yes. No matter which particular version of the ship they are using, it is _always_ well armed for it's size. The original series version (the pink ship with the underslung looking extra engine pod and anvil shaped upper hull) probably had the single most powerful weapon that any of them had. The aperture on the front end of the bottom engine pod was an enormous energy cannon (fusion, particle or Laser I'm not sure). The ship also had some missile batteries. Other ships that have carried the Lovely Angel moniker have had various vaguely defined armament. Usually multiple laser cannon and missiles. The version used in the OVAs and Flight 005 Conspiracy had a missile payload that rivaled the Minerva from Crusher Joe. -Logan (Edit - a clumsily misleading sentence. The missiles do NOT come out of the same aperture as the laser cannon!) ------------------------------------- "I need to selectively edit my mental images. Please hand me a fork." William K. "Bushmaster" Bushway ------------------------------------- |
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StaticdashPulse
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Jan-21-02, 00:39 AM (EDT) |
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5. "RE: The Lovely Angels"
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My guess would be "Project EVE" had a lot to do with getting their reputation, but that was after their reputation had been earned, so... I believe the title "Dirty Pair" is kind of a running meta-joke as much as anything. The Angels are really no more destructive than most heroes, they just get a bad rap from warped reports. If you can get a copy of "Plague of Angels" or "Biohazard" you'll see what I mean. Blaming the Angels, to a certain degree, is like blaming John Sheriden for the Shadow War. He was doing what he thought best, but ISN had a louder voice than he did. Therefore, Captain Sheriden wasn't a war hero as much as he was a deserter. That's a loose analogy anyway. Static-Pulse - the most impulsive post alive DarkBeast.com |
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Star Ranger4
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Jan-21-02, 02:34 AM (EDT) |
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6. "RE: The Lovely Angels"
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>My guess would be "Project EVE" had a lot to do with getting their >reputation, but that was after their reputation had been earned, so... > I believe the title "Dirty Pair" is kind of a running meta-joke as >much as anything. The Angels are really no more destructive than most >heroes, they just get a bad rap from warped reports. If you can get a >copy of "Plague of Angels" or "Biohazard" you'll see what I mean. > >Blaming the Angels, to a certain degree, is like blaming John Sheriden >for the Shadow War. He was doing what he thought best, but ISN had a >louder voice than he did. Therefore, Captain Sheriden wasn't a war >hero as much as he was a deserter. That's a loose analogy anyway. I can believe that, especially after having watched all 10 OAV's. Most of the destrution was caused by everyone else... very rarely did the Pair itself cause them; the most glareing exception that the could be blamed for was on the penal colony. ___________________
Of COURSE you wern't expecting it!! NO ONE expects the Fanish Inquisition!! Of COURSE you wernt expecting it! No One expects the FANNISH INQUISITION! RCW# 86 |
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drakensisthered
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Jan-21-02, 04:16 AM (EDT) |
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7. "RE: The Lovely Angels"
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>>My guess would be "Project EVE" had a lot to do with getting their >>reputation, but that was after their reputation had been earned, so... >> I believe the title "Dirty Pair" is kind of a running meta-joke as >>much as anything. The Angels are really no more destructive than most >>heroes, they just get a bad rap from warped reports. If you can get a >>copy of "Plague of Angels" or "Biohazard" you'll see what I mean. >> >>Blaming the Angels, to a certain degree, is like blaming John Sheriden >>for the Shadow War. He was doing what he thought best, but ISN had a >>louder voice than he did. Therefore, Captain Sheriden wasn't a war >>hero as much as he was a deserter. That's a loose analogy anyway. > >I can believe that, especially after having watched all 10 OAV's. >Most of the destrution was caused by everyone else... very rarely did >the Pair itself cause them; the most glareing exception that the could >be blamed for was on the penal colony. > That's the point as I understand it. 100% success rate, 75% casualty rate and it's NEVER their fault. Central Computer says so. drakensisthered
SHE'S the 'Pirate Killer,' 'Klingon Spooker,' 'Big Trouble in a Little Package,' 'She Who Must be Avoided,' and 'Go Around the Other Side of the Nebula.' I'm the dumb blonde comic relief. |
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Offsides
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Jan-21-02, 09:15 AM (EDT) |
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8. "RE: The Lovely Angels"
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>That's the point as I understand it. 100% success rate, 75% casualty >rate and it's NEVER their fault. Central Computer says so. > Of course not - if it was their fault, the computer would probably reassign them. Trust the computer citizen, the conputer is your friend! :)Offsides Unemployed netadmin seeking job... so what else is new? #include <paranoia.h> #91;...#93; in order to be a realist you must believe in miracles. -- David Ben Gurion EPU RCW #pi; #include <stdsig.h> |
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Matrix Dragon
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Jan-22-02, 11:31 PM (EDT) |
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10. "RE: The Lovely Angels"
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>I can believe that, especially after having watched all 10 OAV's. >Most of the destrution was caused by everyone else... very rarely did >the Pair itself cause them; the most glareing exception that the could >be blamed for was on the penal colony. The Angels almost never cause the destruction. It's the mad scientist pushing the button at the last minute, or the evil general deciding to take everyone with him when he dies, or that space station took a few too many missile hits during the battle.... no matter what the reason, they're not the ones that caused it. But, the media found good story material with them, and so that name was created. I'm not denying that the Angels can cause a lot of damage. It's a talent of theirs. But this happens rarely. Matrix Dragon, freaking out at the DBZ/DP fic he saw earlier (Kei as a super sayian?!) Matrix Dragon, J. Random Nutter |
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