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"The Trouble With Randos, or, A Toho Production"
 
   LAST EDITED ON Aug-13-20 AT 04:04 PM (EDT)
 
(not to be confused with The Trouble With Trandos, the hit new bounty hunter sitcom from the makers of Hossk: Trando Ranger)

One of the odd pitfalls of routinely trawling fanart sites, if you're me, is that you will occasionally end up becoming obscurely fascinated with a character from something you've never heard of, or have heard of but know just enough to know it isn't for you, completely out of context.

Today's case in point: this 18th-century-hat-wearing vampire from the Tōhō Project games.

I know basically nothing about this character, other than that for... reasons... I really like her design. Is she French? Or does she just like antique French hats? I'll never know! I suck at bullet hell games!

(OK, "I'll never know" is dramatic exaggeration, I'm sure there are wikis. There are wikis for everything. The point is, this is not a source materium I'm ever likely to experience.)

Come to think of it, this is how Night of the Kissogram! happened, too. Maybe it's a vampire thing.

--G.
And Saya! I was kidding, but maybe it is a vampire thing.
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                             RE: The Trouble With Randos CdrMike Aug-14-20 13
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                                     RE: The Trouble With Randos CdrMike Aug-16-20 20
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1. "RE: The Trouble With Randos"
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   Remilia Scarlet is Romanian . . . probably. Or at least, she claims to be a descendant of Vlad Tepes. She's definitely from *somewhere* in Europe, and definitely became a vampire around the end of the 15th century.

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2. "RE: The Trouble With Randos"
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   LAST EDITED ON Aug-13-20 AT 01:50 PM (EDT)
 
>Remilia Scarlet is Romanian . . . probably. Or at least, she claims to
>be a descendant of Vlad Tepes.

No such thing as Romania in Vlad's day, but I suppose in modern times if you tell people (outside of Romania and maybe Hungary) you're Wallachian they'll be like, "What?"

:)

--G.
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5. "RE: The Trouble With Randos"
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   I debated saying "Wallachian", but I wanted to double-check that I knew where that was in the modern day, since my major understanding of that country comes from Crusader Kings 2, which is definitely Not A Reliable Source.


What do you mean that Rome wasn't revived in the 12th century by a Muslim Irish king? I saw it happen!

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6. "RE: The Trouble With Randos"
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   >I debated saying "Wallachian", but I wanted to double-check that I
>knew where that was in the modern day, since my major understanding of
>that country comes from Crusader Kings 2, which is definitely Not A
>Reliable Source.

Also there's the problem of people not knowing whether you're talking about being a native of the province of Wallachia, or just a member of the Eli Wallach fan club.

Unrelatedly, why is her sister decorated like a Christmas tree?

--G.
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9. "RE: The Trouble With Randos"
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   > Unrelatedly, why is her sister decorated like a Christmas tree?

I really hate to say "because it's Touhou", but that's about as good of explanation as any. The crystals on Flandre's wings are most likely there to hold magical energy and most likely were created by the Scarlets' resident mage, Patchouli Knowledge.

This is, imo, one of the main reasons the Touhou fandom is so big (the other being the music)- not everything has a super detailed, set-in-stone explanation, which leaves room for fan interpretations to run wild.

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10. "RE: The Trouble With Randos"
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   >I really hate to say "because it's Touhou", but that's about as good
>of explanation as any. The crystals on Flandre's wings are most likely

Oh, they're wings. OK. That's... abstract. (For some reason, my brain one-tracked on the resemblance to a Christmas tree and interpreted the "spar" parts as branches, which was... weird, but not actually the weirdest thing about that character. :)

>there to hold magical energy and most likely were created by the
>Scarlets' resident mage, Patchouli Knowledge.

Well, there's a name.

>This is, imo, one of the main reasons the Touhou fandom is so big (the
>other being the music)- not everything has a super detailed,
>set-in-stone explanation, which leaves room for fan interpretations to
>run wild.

Ah. A thing it has in common with Kancolle, then. (Or, well, chronologically the other way around, but.)

--G.
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11. "RE: The Trouble With Randos"
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   LAST EDITED ON Aug-14-20 AT 02:24 AM (EDT)
 
ZUN is a very strange man who basically taught himself to draw and make video games so he would have somewhere to put the video game music he made as a hobby. The kind of half-hearted way the games are plotted and planned out has only encouraged multiple cottage industries of people to fill in the gaps, refine the art and remix the music.

There are even fangames of it of just about any imaginable genre, including some rather NICE Castlevania clones starring Remilia's vorpal maid and/or other members of the cast.

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13. "RE: The Trouble With Randos"
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   >ZUN is a very strange man who basically taught himself to draw and
>make video games so he would have somewhere to put the video game
>music he made as a hobby. The kind of half-hearted way the games are
>plotted and planned out has only encouraged multiple cottage
>industries of people to fill in the gaps, refine the art and remix the
>music.
>
>There are even fangames of it of just about any imaginable genre,
>including some rather NICE Castlevania clones starring Remilia's
>vorpal maid and/or other members of the cast.

That is really the big reason Touhou remains so popular: It's a fan-driven franchise. ZUN has the final word on what is and isn't canon, but for the most part he lets the fans run wild. It helps that while he's making money on the games, they're ultimately something he does because he finds it fun rather than because he's looking to strike it rich. The downside to this for a long while was that he wouldn't license the games for release outside of Japan, but (IIRC) his reason for that was simply a belief that the games wouldn't appeal to a Western audience.

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19. "RE: The Trouble With Randos"
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   >The downside to this for a long while was that he
>wouldn't license the games for release outside of Japan, but (IIRC)
>his reason for that was simply a belief that the games wouldn't appeal
>to a Western audience.

Kadokawa reinvented that wheel, too. The parallels keep appearing. :)

--G.
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20. "RE: The Trouble With Randos"
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   >Kadokawa reinvented that wheel, too. The parallels keep
>appearing. :)

I've since come to find out that ZUN's initial opposition to licensing Touhou games and print works outside Japan had more to do with the fear that he'd lose control over them. Given all the examples over the years of creators getting screwed by foreign companies licensing their properties (*couHarmonyGoldgh*), I can't really say I blame him. He's since started working with a company in Japan that handles such things for indie developers, so it seems he's found some measure of peace with the idea.

As for Kadokawa...*sigh*. The most I can say on that front is the game's been out for 7 years now and it's obvious it's never seeing a Western release. And I'm cool with that, I've got Azur Lane, Girls Frontline, and Arknights, so I'm set for gacha games. While I enjoy the Kancolle fandom, I've made peace with the reality that that ship is never coming in.

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27. "RE: The Trouble With Randos"
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   >>there to hold magical energy and most likely were created by the
>>Scarlets' resident mage, Patchouli Knowledge.
>
>Well, there's a name.

As an aside, I've read a number of doujinshi over the last few days, and I have to say Patchy gives me a bit of a Raistlin Majere vibe in a lot of them. That whole "you would be terrifyingly powerful, and probably evil, except it would kill your low-CON ass to do it" thing. :)

--G.
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7. "RE: The Trouble With Randos"
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   >Remilia Scarlet is Romanian . . . probably. Or at least, she claims to be a descendant of Vlad Tepes.

Word of God is that she's lying.

As for her origins, best guess is France. "Remilia" is a corruption of "Emilia" and "Scarlet" likewise a shortened version of "Scarlett," common name and surname in France respectively.

>She's definitely from *somewhere* in Europe, and definitely became a vampire around the end of the 15th century.

Close, but a bit off. Embodiment of Scarlet Devil was published in 2003 and she claims to be 500 years young at the time. That would put her birthdate around 1503, assuming she's not lying about that as well. She's actually one of the few characters in the franchise whose age is known.

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8. "RE: The Trouble With Randos"
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   LAST EDITED ON Aug-14-20 AT 01:35 AM (EDT)
 
>As for her origins, best guess is France. "Remilia" is a corruption
>of "Emilia" and "Scarlet" likewise a shortened version of "Scarlett,"
>common name and surname in France respectively.

I gathered she was called "Scarlet" because she's a vampire and has a drinking problem.

--G.
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12. "RE: The Trouble With Randos"
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   >I gathered she was called "Scarlet" because she's a vampire and has
>a drinking problem.

That's actually supposed to be the origin of her title as "The Scarlet Devil," that her clothes are constantly stained red with blood. But like her boast of being a descendant of Vlad Tepes, it's meant to make her sound terrifying when really she's just a messy eater.

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14. "RE: The Trouble With Randos"
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   >really she's just a messy eater.

https://twitter.com/zgryphon/status/1294111335505174529?s=19

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16. "RE: The Trouble With Randos"
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   >Close, but a bit off. Embodiment of Scarlet Devil was
>published in 2003 and she claims to be 500 years young at the time.

My bad, I was under the impression she got vampire-ized 500 years ago, not born then. Does that then mean Flandre is actually 5 years younger than Remilia, but she was turned such that she appears about the same age?


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21. "RE: The Trouble With Randos"
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   >My bad, I was under the impression she got vampire-ized 500 years ago,
>not born then. Does that then mean Flandre is actually 5 years younger
>than Remilia, but she was turned such that she appears about the same
>age?

Really, ZUN has never been exactly clear on her origins or her age. Even the 500 years date is hazy, as it's been implied to be her age, but also how long she's been mistress of the mansion. It seems to be one of those questions that ZUN has either never been asked or (more likely) wants to keep fluid to avoid the need to retcon later.

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3. "RE: The Trouble With Randos"
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   Oh man. Touho project is absolutely chock FULL of quirky and fun characters and the fandom is really something else.

One of my favorite things to come out of said fandom was a 3-D rendered "dogfight" sequence, recreating the final battle between Reimu Hakurei and Utsuho Reiuji from the game Subterranean Animism. It accurately depicts what the bullet hell looks like from a 3-D perspective (although there wasn't a knock-down drag-out slug-fest segment in the game), and the music is the same as used in the game...

...except the last track during the battle. That one is actually a cover of the original music in the game. It's well done, though, and fits perfectly with the animation.

The only thing is that the subtitles are in Japanese. C'est la vie.

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4. "RE: The Trouble With Randos"
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   LAST EDITED ON Aug-13-20 AT 04:03 PM (EDT)
 
>Oh man. Touho project is absolutely chock FULL of quirky and fun
>characters and the fandom is really something else.

One gets a flavor of that on danbooru, where a megafranchise like the Fate series is (as of right now) represented by around 188,000* pieces of fan art, a phenomenon like Kantai Collection boasts upward of 360,000...

... and then there's Touhou, which, as an umbrella tag for the whole series, presently boasts somewhere north of 646,000. Now, I grant you it's been around a lot longer than Kancolle (there are running arguments in the comments of various posts as to whether it will maintain its momentum and eventually take the top spot), but even so, that must be some kind of crazy-intense fan base.

I've read that it's one dude doing... basically everything... on all those games. Big if true, as the young persons say nowadays.

--G.
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15. "RE: The Trouble With Randos"
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   >I've read that it's one dude doing... basically everything...
>on all those games. Big if true, as the young persons say nowadays.

Yes, there is just ZUN. This is actually one of those interesting quirks: He's gotten better as a game designer over the years, and become more clever and innovative in the way he designs things. His talent as a musician has only blossomed further as he has more games to put his music in.

But the man CANNOT DRAW.

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18. "RE: The Trouble With Randos"
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   >>I've read that it's one dude doing... basically everything...
>>on all those games. Big if true, as the young persons say nowadays.
>
>Yes, there is just ZUN. This is actually one of those interesting
>quirks: He's gotten better as a game designer over the years, and
>become more clever and innovative in the way he designs things. His
>talent as a musician has only blossomed further as he has more games
>to put his music in.
>
>But the man CANNOT DRAW.

So he's like some kind of weird converse of vanripper, the guy behind Helltaker, who can make games and draw, but got someone to do the music. :)

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28. "RE: The Trouble With Randos"
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>
>So he's like some kind of weird converse of vanripper, the guy behind
>Helltaker, who can make games and draw, but got someone to do
>the music. :)
>
>--G.

Heh.

The music has become almost a meme in and of itself (and I mean that in the classic manner, not the modern internet silliness). There have been several groups covering the music from the games, in genre from jazz to metal.

Tokyo Active NEETs, for example, has released several very nice jazz collections of Touhou soundtracks. https://youtu.be/iDnvE-lYm0o for example.
(They've also done similar for Kantai Collection soundtracks.)


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17. "RE: The Trouble With Randos, or, A Toho Production"
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   I went on this week's grocery run today (the nearest supermarket that does no-contact curbside pickup is, I'm not kidding, 75 miles away), which gave me plenty of time to think, and I spent part of that time mulling over why this keeps happening. I posted some of those thoughts on Twitter, because that's what Twitter used to be for and I'm living in the past, but I figured I might as well drop them here too, for what they're worth.

As near as I can figure it, to use as a metaphor something that has been much in the public eye of late, there are structures in my psyche akin to the proteins on cells that viruses use to latch hold of them, and every now and then, as I pass through the world's shoals of media, a character I don't know will come along and snag on one at random.

I presume most other authors cope with this by having self-control enough to deny the awkward newcomers entry, but as was once said elsewhere on these boards, I'm evidently running a no-kill shelter for wayward characters, and so I rarely can bring myself to be an effective doorman in my own nightclub of the mind. This is always unexpected and often inconvenient, although rarely as outright detrimental as the biological process it resembles can tend to be.

The worst thing about it, of course, is that following through on it gets a little harder each time, as the casting center in my head gets more and more crowded, and there is less and less room for anybody new to elbow in—particularly into the "present day" of FI-era UF.

Well, I say that, but upon reflection, the worst thing about it may be that each one represents a fresh demand on an already-thinly-multiplexed fund of time and energy. Mostly energy, to be fair. To say that I have limited time right now is really pretty laughable. Like I said somewhere before, I have not just too many irons in the fire, but too many fires at this point.

There may be too many metaphors in this post.

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22. "RE: The Trouble With Randos, or, A Toho Production"
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   tldr: tiny vampire has terrible timing

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23. "RE: The Trouble With Randos, or, A Toho Production"
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   Nice alliteration though!

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24. "RE: The Trouble With Randos, or, A Toho Production"
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   >Nice alliteration though!

Thank you. I almost made it "tiny Țepeș has terrible timing", but that part's apparently not true, so. :)

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25. "RE: The Trouble With Randos, or, A Toho Production"
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   >
>Thank you. I almost made it "tiny Țepeș has terrible timing", but
>that part's apparently not true, so. :)
>

It seems like vampires treat the name Țepeș the way UF Sith treat Darth, just something self-styled dark lords (or ladies) tack on to enhance their street cred. Combine for the ultimate in poser edgelords.


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26. "RE: The Trouble With Randos, or, A Toho Production"
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   >>Thank you. I almost made it "tiny Țepeș has terrible timing", but
>>that part's apparently not true, so. :)
>
>It seems like vampires treat the name Țepeș the way UF Sith treat
>Darth, just something self-styled dark lords (or ladies) tack on to
>enhance their street cred. Combine for the ultimate in poser
>edgelords.

Papal names seem to be a thing with both subcultures, too. I remember playing Vampire: The Masquerade at one point and not choosing an edgy nightlord name for my character. He still went by the same name he did when he was alive. The other vampires all though he was some kind of rube, except the ones who interpreted it as the ultimate act of ironic ennui. :)

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29. "RE: The Trouble With Randos, or, A Toho Production"
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   Interestingly enough (or not, take your pick) my introduction to Touhou was Smooth McGroove's A Capella cover of Flandre's theme (U.N. Owen Was Her)

After that, I got to talking with one of my at-the-time co-workers, who (in addition to being a Huge Damn Fan of the series) showed me 3D videos made by an apparently-well-known Huge Damn Fan of the series, that actually capture the frenetic sense of the game play pretty well -- and the first two videos are Remilia and then Flandre :)

Just figured I'd share, for anyone who hasn't seen any of the above...what the heck, *I* think they're cool, at least.



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   now I'm wondering...if Marisa makes it into OWaW...is her (pauses to google to look up the name of the darn thing) mini-Hakkero a modified miyafuji engine, or something similar?



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31. "RE: The Trouble With Randos, or, A Toho Production"
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   >now I'm wondering...if Marisa makes it into OWaW...is her (pauses to
>google to look up the name of the darn thing) mini-Hakkero a modified
>miyafuji engine, or something similar?

Now you're making me wonder if Tanya Degurechaff might show up.

I'm not sure it would be a good idea, but it might be interesting to see Gryph's take on her.

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32. "RE: The Trouble With Randos, or, A Toho Production"
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   >Now you're making me wonder if Tanya Degurechaff might show up.

Based on what little I've heard about the character and the source thereof, Magic Eight-Ball says SIGNS POINT TO NO.

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33. "RE: The Trouble With Randos, or, A Toho Production"
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   Two things, unrelated:

- I just realized what the more brutal fan depictions of Sakuya make me think of (besides "what is wrong with people today?"): the Fourth Doctor's reaction to Count Scarlioni's butler. "I say, what a wonderful maid! She's so violent!"

- The subplot (in one of the later games, so I sort of ran across it by chance while looking for something else, you know how it goes) with the two immortals constantly slaying each other, even though they're both well aware that it accomplishes absolutely nothing, is almost always played for maximum grimdarque in fan works, but could be a lot funnier if you played it like the Warner Brothers cartoon with the wolf and the sheepdog. Or Spy vs. Spy. Who remembers Spy vs. Spy? Obviously Moko is the white spy and Kaguya is the black spy, not that it really makes much difference.

I don't know offhand just where they would fit best, but I find myself kind of charmed by their ridiculous "buddy cop romance with occasional mortal combat" thing, so they might show up somewhere sometime. Is it really an abusive relationship when they both know there are no consequences for any violence they do to each other? Or is it just another kink? To quote Leif from Animal Crossing, you gotta do what makes you happy.

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   Another peaceful day at Scarlet Devil Mansion.

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35. "RE: The Trouble With Randos, or, A Toho Production"
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   >Another peaceful day at Scarlet Devil Mansion.
>

Seems much like a peaceful day among the Duelists, just with many small blades instead of a few larger ones. Nice to know some doujin authors don't hate the characters at least. Got a chuckle or two as well ("Flan's pets...")



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36. "RE: The Trouble With Randos, or, A Toho Production"
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   >Got a chuckle or two as well ("Flan's pets...")

I guess Koishi perceives Sakuya and Meiling as the SDM's equivalents of her big sister's pet cat and raven, Orin and Okuu, back home in the underworld. Which, well, she's not entirely wrong, although I would submit that they are significantly smarter, given that even though they're supernatural versions of same who have humanoid forms, Orin and Okuu actually are a cat and a raven, with the, uh, intellectual prowess that implies. :)

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37. "RE: The Trouble With Randos, or, A Toho Production"
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   >Put it this way: if you made a Princess Bride
>remake with Touhou characters, Okuu would be an excellent choice to
>play Fezzik.

Now, now, Fezzik had a great gift for rhyme... some of the time.

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   LAST EDITED ON Nov-21-20 AT 10:12 PM (EST)
 
Upon careful consideration of the materials to hand:

Man alive, I cannot abide Yukari. She will not be appearing in UF. That is all.

--G.
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