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Star Ranger4
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"On the value of Anodynes"
 
   >>At
>>least now I know what an Anodyne is. What I don't understand is why
>>they'd be so darn valuable to the Psi's as to warrent brainwashing
>>her.
>
>At the risk of seeming snappish, are you blind? Look at what
>she did! Do you know how much power could be gained by
>isolating and duplicating that talent in the human psionic genome? An
>army of telepathic soldiers with the capability of healing their own
>wounds - rendering medical science obsolete, then holding the populace
>in a stranglehold of ignorance and fear - if you want healing, you'll
>have to come to the Corps...
>
>It's not, perhaps, the most easily envisioned of future scenarios, but
>the upper echelons of the Corps try not to discount any avenue toward
>influence. Besides, just the troops-can-heal-themselves thing would
>provide a tremendous military edge if it came to that.
>
I dunno Gryph. (Although I should note in passing that I often joke that I am blind in one eye, and I cant see out of the other...)

It rather seems to me that in Liz' case, she's a rouge manifestation... her abilities MAY have been triggered by something in her environment, and would not be easily passed on to future generations. Anyway, I still don't see a whole legion of anodynes putting medical science out to pasture, if only BECAUSE of it leaving the corps with a monopoly.

>>"She's
>>less than 100 kallicams (I assume this is somewhat equivalent to feet
>>or meters) from the engine room..."
>
>A kellicam is a Klingon unit of distance measurement. I'm not sure
>how big they are, but in Star Trek III, Commander Kruge's crew
>uses them to read off ranges to Enterprise in combat, so I
>expect they're the Klingon functional equivalent of a mile or
>kilometer. The sort of unit that "how far is City X from City Y?"
>would be answered in on Qo'noS.
>
That thought occured to me as well... Kalli seems to be the same sort of grouping as Kilo in english, making it a multiple of Cams. I guess I'm saying that maybe Kruge should have said cams instead of kallicams... Still, its not really a "BFHD" in the cosmic scale of the universe, isn't it?

>>Taco night on a Klingon Vessel? At first I had this vision of
>>tortillas stuffeed with Gah and blood cheese.
>
>Nope - perfectly straightforward Tex-Mex, embellished slightly with
>some traditional Klingon spices, but otherwise just what you'd expect
>in a good Tex-Mex restaurant. It's really catching on in the Empire -
>Krontep wasn't being flippant.

As is prune Juice?? Sorry, just had to ask that. Although, once I saw that line from DS9, amoungs those in the know, Dr. Pepper has become "A good soda... a WARRIORS soda!"
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mechaman
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1. "RE: On the value of Anodynes"
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   >I dunno Gryph. (Although I should note in passing that I often joke
>that I am blind in one eye, and I cant see out of the other...)
>
>It rather seems to me that in Liz' case, she's a rouge
>manifestation... her abilities MAY have been triggered by something in
>her environment, and would not be easily passed on to future
>generations. Anyway, I still don't see a whole legion of anodynes
>putting medical science out to pasture, if only BECAUSE of it leaving
>the corps with a monopoly.
>

Okay, I'm going to make a comment here, I usually wouldn't, but there's a small fallacy I see a lot, and this one kind of hammers it home. The above paragraph tries to argue the point on things not seen on camera, or may not even be worried about by the author. A test for ability != a genetic scan or the like, in reasonable thought, more because if it were that easy to isolate, you'd think that such abilities would be screened at birth. A chilling concept as it is.

Come to think of it, that comment above isn't in the text either. But is as reasonable or not. It's a question of what is more reasonable to assume, and in the end, there's only one answer to that, attributed to the great Joel Hodgson and the other great people at Best Brains, slightly revised:

"And if your worried about the policies, and other background facts, you should repeat to yourself 'it's a story post', and really just relax."

If it's vital, it'll show in story. If it's not, it's not.

As for the last sentence, there's a minor problem that is in the text: The corps has a monopoly. On human Talents. Or at least 'officially' so, in the Earth Alliance. It doesn't matter if it's someone who can light a candle, or someone who can know what you're thinking beyond what you're having for dinner. It's their department. This doesn't matter if you view the Psi Corps as necessary evil in protecting the masses or as the proving grounds for a new master race. Anodynes fall under their purview, and they would work to make sure not to miss one with her talents.

You're correct that Anodynes can't replace human tech. However, even the best micronization can only go so far, and only a human who has trained and worked with those tools can use them to their lifesaving ability. Anodynes, depending on the level, carry their tools always. And as importantly, can adapt them to some degree (in Liza's case, considering her rating, her potential adapting to the situation could be rather high) when it's something unexpected. In a battlefield condition, or even on a space exploration mission, those types of individuals are almost worth time again the cost of a sickbay. Partially because they free up the medical officers and staff to work on another individual. Supplemental, not replacement.

Which, to bring in the dark side of applications, make them perfect medics for small commando-like groups, as well.

-Mek


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