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bparanial
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"B5 Ambassadors"
 
   First, will Londo and G'kar be the offical represntives of their
goverments to B5 in UF?

Second, does the League of Non-Alligned Worlds exists?

Third, Same question, reffering to the Vorlon Empire?
*Pictures Garak and Bashir watching Londo and G'kar snip at
eachother and obviously enjoying the show*

*Decides the answer to question three is no because the Vorlons
would have taken out Bajor with their planet killer long ago, after
all, B5 is the work of a servant of Chaos*


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  Subject     Author     Message Date     ID  
  RE: B5 Ambassadors Shadowhavoc Nov-20-01 1
     RE: B5 Ambassadors Croaker Nov-20-01 2
  RE: B5 Ambassadors Gryphonadmin Nov-20-01 3
     RE: B5 Ambassadors Astynax Nov-21-01 4
         RE: B5 Ambassadors Nathan Nov-21-01 5
             RE: B5 Ambassadors bparanial Nov-21-01 7
                 RE: B5 Ambassadors trussteam Nov-21-01 8
                     RE: B5 Ambassadors bparanial Nov-21-01 9
                         RE: B5 Ambassadors trussteam Nov-21-01 10
         RE: B5 Ambassadors Gryphonadmin Nov-21-01 6
  RE: B5 Ambassadors Mephronmoderator Nov-23-01 11

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Shadowhavoc
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Nov-20-01, 11:02 PM (EDT)
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1. "RE: B5 Ambassadors"
In response to message #0
 
   >First, will Londo and G'kar be the offical represntives of their
>goverments to B5 in UF?
>
>Second, does the League of Non-Alligned Worlds exists?
>
>Third, Same question, reffering to the Vorlon Empire?
>*Pictures Garak and Bashir watching Londo and G'kar snip at
>eachother and obviously enjoying the show*
>
>*Decides the answer to question three is no because the Vorlons
>would have taken out Bajor with their planet killer long ago, after
>all, B5 is the work of a servant of Chaos*

Huh?

"Ow!"
"The US Postal Service hungers..."


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Croaker
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Nov-20-01, 11:12 PM (EDT)
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2. "RE: B5 Ambassadors"
In response to message #1
 
   >>First, will Londo and G'kar be the offical represntives of their
>>goverments to B5 in UF?
>>
>>Second, does the League of Non-Alligned Worlds exists?
>>
>>Third, Same question, reffering to the Vorlon Empire?
>>*Pictures Garak and Bashir watching Londo and G'kar snip at
>>eachother and obviously enjoying the show*
>>
>>*Decides the answer to question three is no because the Vorlons
>>would have taken out Bajor with their planet killer long ago, after
>>all, B5 is the work of a servant of Chaos*
>
>Huh?
>

Zoner.

>
>
>"Ow!"
>"The US Postal Service hungers..."


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Gryphonadmin
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Nov-20-01, 11:46 PM (EDT)
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3. "RE: B5 Ambassadors"
In response to message #0
 
   >First, will Londo and G'kar be the offical represntives of their
>goverments to B5 in UF?

Yes.

>Second, does the League of Non-Alligned Worlds exists?

Not as such.

>Third, Same question, reffering to the Vorlon Empire?

Yes, but they're not what you're expecting.

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Astynax
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Nov-21-01, 00:45 AM (EDT)
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4. "RE: B5 Ambassadors"
In response to message #3
 
   >>First, will Londo and G'kar be the offical represntives of their
>>goverments to B5 in UF?
>
>Yes.
>

I'm moved to comment two things: 1. Shweeeeeeet 2. Uhm, just how old IS Londo? IIRC, he popped up <with a disguised UF-G no less> during the Exile. <of course, I don't recall offhand if Centauri are one of the longer lived species or not>

>
>>Third, Same question, reffering to the Vorlon Empire?
>
>Yes, but they're not what you're expecting.
>

Wouldn't that make them something other than Vorlons? <seriously, the idea of the group is to be haughty, mysterious, and insufferably arrogant... seeing them otherwise will cause some headaches methinks>

Of course, this could just be a reference to the much higher tech base of UF relative to B5 canon, meaning the Vorlons just don't have the same amount of pull.

-={(Astynax)}=-
"Rampant speculation from a Rampant mind;)"


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Nathan
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Nov-21-01, 02:17 AM (EDT)
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5. "RE: B5 Ambassadors"
In response to message #4
 
   >>>First, will Londo and G'kar be the offical represntives of their
>>>goverments to B5 in UF?
>>
>>Yes.
>>
>
>I'm moved to comment two things: 1. Shweeeeeeet 2. Uhm, just how old
>IS Londo? IIRC, he popped up <with a disguised UF-G no less> during
>the Exile. <of course, I don't recall offhand if Centauri are one of
>the longer lived species or not>
I don't think so, but it could very easily have been LATE exile... Or, Ambassador Mollari is Londo Mollari IX and Gryph's traveling companion was notorious family black sheep and no-goodnik Londo Mollari VIII.

>>>Third, Same question, reffering to the Vorlon Empire?
>>
>>Yes, but they're not what you're expecting.
>>
>
>Wouldn't that make them something other than Vorlons? <seriously, the
>idea of the group is to be haughty, mysterious, and insufferably
>arrogant... seeing them otherwise will cause some headaches methinks>

...Hmm.

Haughty, mysterious, nearly as advanced as they think they are, insufferably arrogant, organic technology... Anime fans of the audience, does this sound familiar? (Hint: Light Hawk Wings)

>Of course, this could just be a reference to the much higher tech base
>of UF relative to B5 canon, meaning the Vorlons just don't have the
>same amount of pull.

I doubt it. They're so far ahead that UF is nine, eight hundred miles behind, instead of a thousand.

Blessed be.
Nathan Baxter
(Part of my brain is insisting that the difference will be that at least a few of them can actually LOOSTEN UP... and immediately provides the image of Yellow-Kosh doing the Funky Chicken)

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bparanial
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Nov-21-01, 11:54 AM (EDT)
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7. "RE: B5 Ambassadors"
In response to message #5
 
   >
>Haughty, mysterious, nearly as advanced as they think they are,
>insufferably arrogant, organic technology... Anime fans of the
>audience, does this sound familiar? (Hint: Light Hawk Wings)

I really doubt this.

>(Part of my brain is insisting that the difference will be that at
>least a few of them can actually LOOSTEN UP... and immediately
>provides the image of Yellow-Kosh doing the Funky Chicken)


That image must not go unanswered.
*Drops a Zoner Chili bomb, which is soon followed by a familar sound*

*Wheet*

*Five Narns with Gas Masks appear*

*thump, thump, thump, Thump, Thump, THUMP*

*WHAM* *WHAM* *WHAM* *WHAM* *WHAM*


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trussteam
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Nov-21-01, 12:00 PM (EDT)
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8. "RE: B5 Ambassadors"
In response to message #7
 
   LAST EDITED ON Nov-21-01 AT 12:03 PM (EST)

>*Drops a Zoner Chili bomb, which is soon followed by a familar sound*
>
>*Wheet*
>
>*Five Narns with Gas Masks appear*
>
>*thump, thump, thump, Thump, Thump, THUMP*
>
>*WHAM* *WHAM* *WHAM* *WHAM* *WHAM*

Hey. Y'know what? That joke is extremely stale.

And here's a tip... if you want the moderators to stop reading a thread, causing the discussion to devolve into posts like this is about the most sure-fire way of doing it. It's not interesting, it's not funny, it's tedious.

--truss,
not humorless, but preferring jokes with actual content.

(This is not directed at bparanial in particular -- this is just the latest occurrence.)


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bparanial
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Nov-21-01, 01:09 PM (EDT)
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9. "RE: B5 Ambassadors"
In response to message #8
 
   >And here's a tip... if you want the moderators to stop reading a
>thread, causing the discussion to devolve into posts like this is
>about the most sure-fire way of doing it. It's not interesting, it's
>not funny, it's tedious.
Sorry, about that Truss. It was a lame joke, in response to a lame
joke. Mea Cupla.

Brad, who tries not to piss off moderators if he can help it.


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trussteam
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Nov-21-01, 01:26 PM (EDT)
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10. "RE: B5 Ambassadors"
In response to message #9
 
   >Sorry, about that Truss. It was a lame joke, in response to a lame
>joke. Mea Cupla.

No apology needed. Like I said, it wasn't directed specifically at you. (I don't even know if you've made that sort of post before.)

It's just getting old...

--truss.


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Gryphonadmin
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6. "RE: B5 Ambassadors"
In response to message #4
 
   >Uhm, just how old
>IS Londo? IIRC, he popped up <with a disguised UF-G no less> during
>the Exile.

In 2405, Londo is starting to get on toward the elderly side; when we saw him in Privateer: One Fine Mess, he was in his prime, about 30, which makes him 80ish now. That's right on the border of late middle age/early old age for a Centauri in the UF 25th century.

IOW, he's about the apparent age he is in Babylon 5.

>Of course, this could just be a reference to the much higher tech base
>of UF relative to B5 canon, meaning the Vorlons just don't have the
>same amount of pull.

Put it this way: They're more reluctant to destroy people's planets when those people possess the capability of destroying their planet in return.

--G.
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11. "RE: B5 Ambassadors"
In response to message #0
 
   >*Decides the answer to question three is no because the Vorlons
>would have taken out Bajor with their planet killer long ago, after
>all, B5 is the work of a servant of Chaos*

<Much speculation occurs below.>

Actually, if you think about it, the Shadows and MegaZone-UF are complete opposites, despite both being servants of forms of Chaos.

The Shadows are proponents of the 'Chaos equals Strife, Strife equals Conflict, Conflict equals evolution' line of thought. MegaZone is a proponent of the 'a foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds' school of thought. The Shadows believe in the chaos of war as a forging fire of strength. MegaZone's purview appears to be, of all things, 'Think Different' - expand the mental horizon a bit, let yourself create.

For the readers of the Bhavagita, the Shadows are Shiva's destroying aspect, and MegaZone is the creating. Both are aspects of Chaos.

The interesting question is, do the Vorlons have a mindset wide enough to allow them to comprehend that? Just because they've got superior intellects doesn't mean they don't have irritating assumptions.

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