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BlackAngel999
Member since Feb-8-09
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Feb-08-09, 10:53 PM (EST) |
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"One question remains..."
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I finished reading the series for the eighth time now. Question: How come someone has not made this into a live-action or an anime movie or TV series??? "Why do I do this, The money is good, The scenery changes, and they let me use explosives." -Rockhound from Armageddon |
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BlackAngel999
Member since Feb-8-09
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Feb-09-09, 10:29 AM (EST) |
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2. "RE: One question remains..."
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This was not a rhetorical question. In fact all of the people that I have come to know that have seen NGE loved the change. If anything, it would be nice to ask for permission to make it into a live-action movie. (I know, I know, I'm partially an otaku and it probibly won't get done) I'd be willing to try, hell, I'd even be willing to have a walk-on part in 1.8, being a geology student and all. I'd imagine that something like a radio-style reading of these with different voice actors would push you guys over-the-top with your loyal fans. "Why do I do this, The money is good, The scenery changes, and they let me use explosives." -Rockhound from Armageddon |
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Gryphon
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Feb-09-09, 11:41 AM (EST) |
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3. "RE: One question remains..."
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>This was not a rhetorical question. Well, then here's the non-rhetorical answer: Undertaking a project like an actual NXE movie covertly would be all but impossible; launching it overtly, as you suggest, by going to the rights-holders up front and asking them what they think would be suicidal. Like dressing up in a suit of raw steaks and climbing into the lion enclosure at the zoo. See, things like NXE are only permitted to survive because they remain below the radar of the people who actually own the intellectual property being used. Stick your head up, make a noise, do something so overt that those people can no longer plausibly deny that they're aware of your activities, and you will be crushed like a bug. Personally, I don't want to be crushed like a bug. I'm already spending a decent chunk of time these days wondering whether I have, in fact, permanently sabotaged any career I might have had as a professional writer by spending the last 18 years(!) building a very large time bomb under my bed. If I were to get published now and, through some strange vagary of fate, happen to hit it big, some researcher would be bound to come across all this lot - well, you could hardly miss it, could you? - and then I'd have some quite awkward questions to answer. (Also, motion pictures cost a bloody fortune, which I don't happen to have.) --G. -><- Benjamin D. Hutchins, Co-Founder, Editor-in-Chief, & Forum Admin Eyrie Productions, Unlimited http://www.eyrie-productions.com/ Ceterum censeo Carthaginem esse delendam. |
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Offsides
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Feb-09-09, 02:41 PM (EST) |
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4. "RE: One question remains..."
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>Personally, I don't want to be crushed like a bug. I'm already >spending a decent chunk of time these days wondering whether I have, >in fact, permanently sabotaged any career I might have had as a >professional writer by spending the last 18 years(!) building a very >large time bomb under my bed. If I were to get published now and, >through some strange vagary of fate, happen to hit it big, some >researcher would be bound to come across all this lot - well, you >could hardly miss it, could you? - and then I'd have some quite >awkward questions to answer. > No disagreement offered on your position or motivations, but I'd like to believe that given your rather well documented history of resisting things like this that what you've done so far would be rather defensible under the Fair Use provisions. However, I also expect that if such a thing were to happen, you'd probably also have to take all of this offline and stop doing it as once you became a big time author it could be argued that you were using EPU to further your career and thus exceeding the limits of Fair Use.This, of course, leaves me conflicted. On one hand I think you've earned the right to hit the big time (hoe many professional authors can claim to have written/edited the volume encompassed by the complete works of EPU?) and I certainly wouldn't begrudge you if it happened; on the other I really enjoy the works of EPU, and would hate to see them stagnate and disappear (or at least be forced underground)... Offsides [...] in order to be a realist you must believe in miracles. -- David Ben Gurion EPU RCW #π #include <stdsig.h> |
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BlackAngel999
Member since Feb-8-09
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Feb-09-09, 10:45 PM (EST) |
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5. "RE: One question remains..."
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Are you a lawyer or something? Anywhoo, as you say they "might have to shut the site down", on the otherhand I was simply asking if the concept were mearly entertained. What I've found is that you never know till you've asked, so there is no way of knowing for shure. I was stating the fact that some of the animation companies steal and step on eachother's series like Funimation and Tenchi Muyo GXP. Not only did they steal the name, but some of the characters as well. I would at least ask some of their people abut the feasibility, they would know all about the legal exceptions and the how'd you put it "getting my head bitten off". Most companies are likely to at least hear you out, then they would either turn you down or not. Its the same with schools. If I spent my whole childhood behaving and not acting up, I would most likely be a dull man. If you were to ask a school official about changing the rules, they would most likely hear you out. Same goes with big production companies. Like you say Ben, it would be hard to convince, but not impossible. The production company would have to give credit back to your site. The most anyone could accuse you guys of is making a good fan-fic. I know, I know, it will never get done. It was worth entertaining the notion of it though. "Why do I do this, The money is good, The scenery changes, and they let me use explosives." -Rockhound from Armageddon |
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BLUE
Member since Oct-21-02
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Feb-11-09, 05:43 AM (EST) |
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6. "RE: One question remains..."
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>>How come someone has not made this into a live-action or an anime >>movie or TV series??? > >It's a long story that involves the word "unauthorized" a lot. >Okay, my $0.02 - have you ever considered doing a doujinshi comic? I realize that it would be a huge stretch, but if (and it's a big if) it was printed in Japan with a print run under 10k, it wouldn't even be illegal. I've been up like 20 hours, so I'm running on fumes, but that idea just crossed my mind, and I thought I'd put it out there. -D- "I don't tell you how to remove bullets. Don't you tell me how to make killing machines back into little girls." Captain Kaff Tagon of Tagon's Toughs, Schlock Mercenary |
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Gryphon
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Feb-11-09, 11:28 AM (EST) |
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7. "RE: One question remains..."
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>Okay, my $0.02 - have you ever considered doing a doujinshi comic? I've tried for several minutes now to formulate an answer that hits all the salient points and yet doesn't come off as witheringly sarcastic in print, and it appears that it's just beyond my capability to do such a thing, so here's the withering version - please try not to take the tone personally, as it's kind of an inevitable side effect of the content: Well, no, actually. What with not knowing an artist interested in doing that kind of volume, not knowing any Japanese printers, and having at my command maybe four words of the Japanese language (none of them written), that had never once crossed my mind. Look, I appreciate the interest, guys, but the simple fact of the matter is that Neon Exodus Evangelion is not a project that can or should be commercialized in any way. --G. -><- Benjamin D. Hutchins, Co-Founder, Editor-in-Chief, & Forum Admin Eyrie Productions, Unlimited http://www.eyrie-productions.com/ Ceterum censeo Carthaginem esse delendam. |
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BLUE
Member since Oct-21-02
316 posts |
Feb-11-09, 03:23 PM (EST) |
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8. "RE: One question remains..."
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>I've tried for several minutes now to formulate an answer that hits >all the salient points and yet doesn't come off as witheringly >sarcastic in print, Actually, it doesn't come across that way, at least to me, and since I'm the one who would be offended, its cool. >Well, no, actually. What with not knowing an artist interested in >doing that kind of volume, not knowing any Japanese printers, and >having at my command maybe four words of the Japanese language (none >of them written), that had never once crossed my mind. I can understand that. It was more off the cuff, and I don't know who you do and don't know in the anime industry, etc. Besides, dealing with artists and whatnot at conventions, you learn that just because something doesn't seem feasible doesn't mean that people haven't considered it. -D- "I don't tell you how to remove bullets. Don't you tell me how to make killing machines back into little girls." Captain Kaff Tagon of Tagon's Toughs, Schlock Mercenary |
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trigger
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Feb-11-09, 11:17 PM (EST) |
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10. "RE: One question remains..."
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Wow, we have this discussion at least once every 18 months. Is it a law or something?Anyway, as an economist (don't hit me!) it's clear to me that many people think the Authors should be writing for $$. Yes, that would include me since I too once launched a thread like this. So, bad economy or not, there's a niche to be exploited. Let me know when y'all launch a product we can buy and the Authors can collect royalties on for seventy odd years. Until then,can we crack weasels table any efforts to see the EPU fanfic in print/video/pr0n or other, litigious form? Please? Also, let me repeat that as a crack weasel of long standing, I am very grateful for any fanfic Eyrie wants to produce. Please keep it up. thanks, t. Trigger Argee trigger_argee@hotmail.com Manon, Maccadon, Orado, etc. Denton, never leave home without it. "I hate to advocate drugs, alcohol, violence, or insanity to anyone, but they've always worked for me." - HST |
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trigger
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Feb-14-09, 05:15 PM (EST) |
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13. "RE: One question remains..."
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>I'm not going to hit, I'm just surprised you're here right now. I >would have expected all the economists in the land to basically be >sitting in darkened rooms murmuring, "So much blood. So much blood." >over and over these days. :) well, I'm rather junior (it was a career change at 30), and frankly, yes, I do spend hours upon sleepless hours of despair. Then I go back to work. I get by with a little help from my friends. And pretty excellent escapist literature. t. Trigger Argee trigger_argee@hotmail.com Manon, Maccadon, Orado, etc. Denton, never leave home without it.
"I hate to advocate drugs, alcohol, violence, or insanity to anyone, but they've always worked for me." - HST |
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BLUE
Member since Oct-21-02
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Feb-12-09, 05:50 AM (EST) |
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12. "RE: One question remains..."
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LAST EDITED ON Feb-12-09 AT 05:59 AM (EST) >>I don't know who you do and don't know in the anime industry, etc. > >Well, for future reference: I know no one whatsoever in the >anime industry. :) >I should have said 'anime and manga', actually. I know Zoner is acquainted with several people (Dave Williams from ADV for one) but didn't know if you knew any them; and it's a stretch these days, but back in the early days of Eyrie to at least 2003 (I think that's the last time I saw him at Otakon)...Redneck? Or does manga/anime-influenced american stuff not count? Not trying to be smart, just thought that he counted :) Edit: More of a second thought - has Gryph ever done any original fiction writing? I was just curious. I'm in the process of submitting a work for comic publication at the moment (god I hate dealing with artists), as writer and designer (other people draw it and then I tell them if it matches the idea or sucks like a dyson) and just wondered if you'd ever tried your hand a concept like that. -D- "I don't tell you how to remove bullets. Don't you tell me how to make killing machines back into little girls." Captain Kaff Tagon of Tagon's Toughs, Schlock Mercenary |
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