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"Babylon 5 reboot, with Straczynki at the helm"
 
   Babylon 5 is being rebooted.
https://variety.com/2021/tv/news/babylon-5-reboot-the-cw-j-michael-straczynski-1235075236/

Link to Twitter thread of Straczynki's comments on the announcement: https://www.twitter.com/straczynski/status/1442621159221043202

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  RE: Babylon 5 reboot, with Straczynki at the helm McFortner Sep-28-21 1
     RE: Babylon 5 reboot, with Straczynki at the helm Gryphonadmin Sep-28-21 2
         RE: Babylon 5 reboot, with Straczynki at the helm Rabe Sep-28-21 3
     RE: Babylon 5 reboot, with Straczynki at the helm Kendra Kirai Oct-01-21 6
         RE: Babylon 5 reboot, with Straczynki at the helm Gryphonadmin Oct-01-21 9
  RE: Babylon 5 reboot, with Straczynki at the helm Nathan Sep-29-21 4
  RE: Babylon 5 reboot, with Straczynki at the helm CdrMike Sep-29-21 5
  RE: Babylon 5 reboot, with Straczynki at the helm mdg1 Oct-01-21 7
     RE: Babylon 5 reboot, with Straczynki at the helm CdrMike Oct-01-21 8

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McFortner
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1. "RE: Babylon 5 reboot, with Straczynki at the helm"
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   I dunno, I just feel like B5 doesn't NEED a reboot. Unless you want a new revenue stream for your IP.

But that's just the cynic in me speaking.

I'd just rather he spend the money to get a decent remaster of the series instead.

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Gryphonadmin
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2. "RE: Babylon 5 reboot, with Straczynki at the helm"
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   >I dunno, I just feel like B5 doesn't NEED a reboot.

I've felt that way about most things that have gotten a reboot, including at least one thing I ended up rebooting myself, so, there's that. :)

But yeah, I dunno, I'm kinda not feeling it at the moment. The original was so self-contained that even spinoffs (hell, even the fifth season of the actual show!) felt kind of unnecessary to me.

On the other hand, having read JMS's Twitter-thread explanation of why he's doing it, I don't get the vibe of a cash grab. What it does have the ring of to me is George Lucas's explanation for the Star Wars Special Edition, back when he first announced that he was doing it in the mid-'90s. Lucas didn't start completely over--people might have been more accepting of the result if he had, assuming in that timeline he didn't try to erase the original version in the process--so the parallel is not exact, but the whole thing about how the tools have advanced and whatnot feels very familiar, for good or ill.

So, I'm not sure. I'm not going to dismiss it out of hand before they've even done anything, but by the same token, I'm not feeling the hype this early on either. (I wouldn't be seeing it first-run anyway, since I haven't had TV service at the Fortress of Magnitude for years.) I guess we'll see!

Please note I'm not saying you (that's the royal "you") shouldn't be excited about it. Just that I'm not particularly.

--G.
On the other hand, in the timeline where the JMS show that unexpectedly got a reboot is Captain Power and the Soldiers of the Future, I have to assume that I am all up ons, as the young people no longer say.
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Rabe
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3. "RE: Babylon 5 reboot, with Straczynki at the helm"
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   this is the CW and I've never been happy with what they make but PTEN was crap too so, maybe.

who to cast as Garibaldi? Bruce Willis?


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Kendra Kirai
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6. "RE: Babylon 5 reboot, with Straczynki at the helm"
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   I just want to note, that doing a remaster isn’t just money.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=M3w6Lf4Um6Q This here video tells a tale of why remastering shows of that vintage is....difficult. Possibly moreso, considering what we know about how much trouble the DVDs were to make, aside from being filmed in widescreen all along.


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9. "RE: Babylon 5 reboot, with Straczynki at the helm"
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   >I just want to note, that doing a remaster isn’t just money.
>
>https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=M3w6Lf4Um6Q This here video tells a tale
>of why remastering shows of that vintage is....difficult. Possibly
>moreso, considering what we know about how much trouble the DVDs were
>to make, aside from being filmed in widescreen all along.

The problem would almost certainly be more pronounced in the case of Babylon 5, because the show's production leaned so much more heavily on digital effects. It was one of the show's big talking points at the time, but it came along at exactly the wrong moment, technologically speaking.

(This is as opposed to, say, why there's no Blu-ray version of Ultraman 80, much to the annoyance of people replying to Mill Creek's Twitter account--which is because Tsuburaya either can only find the SD broadcast videotapes now, or didn't shoot that series on film in the first place.)

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4. "RE: Babylon 5 reboot, with Straczynki at the helm"
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   Hmm.

My instant gut-check feeling is that they kind of bottled lightning the first time and achieving a credible parallel to that again is going to be a great challenge. OTOH, with Straczynski's involvement, we should at least be spared the way the Battlestar Galactica reboot missed what made the original compelling despite exceeding it in every other measurable parameter.

So - could be cool. Could be crap. Will be interesting to see.

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5. "RE: Babylon 5 reboot, with Straczynki at the helm"
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   Having read both the announcement, JMS' remarks, and some commentary on Youtube about this, I've a few thoughts on the whole endeavor.

The first is the danger here is less like Lucas doing the Special Edition of the original trilogy and more like when he did the prequels or when Roddenberry was given creative control of the first seasons of TNG: You've got a creator who's no longer a relative unknown, he's a famous name who people are going to have a hard time telling "No" or telling him that his ideas don't work. Working with something that already exists by enhancing the visuals or adding new ones leaves less room for a creator to develop a god complex.

The second is JMS compares the new project to ones like the rebooted BSG and Westworld, which worries me because I frequently use what he did on B5 as the counterpoint to series like those and others which eventually fall victim to the "Chris Carter Effect." The story has always been that JMS not only had a story arc with definitive beginnings and ends mapped out over five seasons, but that he even had contingency plans for what to do if characters had to be replaced due to things like death, contract disputes (Hi, Ivanova), or creative differences (Hi, Talia). So when you compare your plans to those of creators who famously (or infamously) have admitted they ran out of ideas and just started slinging crap against the wall, I can't help but worry about the direction of this new project.

And the last is I've seen some suggest this is Warner Brothers responding to the work that CBS & Paramount have been doing with Star Trek over on Paramount + (previously CBS All-Access). And for those who haven't been able to watch the new series, all I can say is "ABANDON HOPE ALL YE WHO ENTER!"

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7. "RE: Babylon 5 reboot, with Straczynki at the helm"
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   Honestly, with all the times jms has taken his toys and gone home over the years, I would take even money on him canceling the project before it gets to the air.

Mario


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8. "RE: Babylon 5 reboot, with Straczynki at the helm"
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   >Honestly, with all the times jms has taken his toys and gone home over
>the years, I would take even money on him canceling the project before
>it gets to the air.

He could walk away from the project, but WB owns the TV rights and could plow forward without him if they wanted. Given that he owns the movie rights, this might be an effort to try to get them to finance the B5 movie projects he's been trying to get off the ground for years.

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