In general, more of a bean-counter than someone you wanted in charge of an actual fighting fleet.

An ego-stroking show for self-proclaimed "sixth smartest man in the world" Walter O'Brian. It's based around the idea of a team of incredibly smart but socially deficient people that solve problems either for the government or on contract to private interests.

The group and the characters would probably work in UF, (better than they do in the RL setting of the show), but I don't know if you would want to use them.

Eleventh Doctor: I never forget a face.

The Curator: I know you don't. And in years to come you might find yourself revisiting a few, but just the old favorites.

Not bloody likely, chum. ^_-;;;

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But I concede defeat on this issue, and will content myself with imagining the previously-mentioned Rose Duels involving all the spiders. =]

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I have read the source material. I don't think Gryphon would get through the first chapter without trying to find the author and beat him to death with a bit of old pipe for heroine abuse.

The climax of Manhunt notwithstanding, I have more of the standoff drone-missile temperament. I don't like getting blood on me.

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(srsly tho you'd get along really well with taylor hebert as a character. and dragon, come to think of it. dragon is basically the setting's most heroic hero and is basically if iron man had the morals of captain america.)

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Wear red.

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"Don't change the subject"
"Too slow, already did."

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Michael C. Fortner
"Maxim 37: There is no such thing as "overkill".
There is only "open fire" and "I need to reload".

Oh, yes, I stumbled across that series a few months ago. Only watched one episode but I was impressed with the production values. And the writing didn't seem half-bad, assuming the translation was accurate.

I could see these two bouncing around the Claremont district in New Avalon indeed...

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Actually, after watching a number of additional episodes, I'm inclined to disagree on the last point. The show's Parisian setting is a fairly substantial element of its feel and characterization, and it wouldn't be the same transplanted to somewhere Anglophone. (Not that this would stop it from being included in UF, of course!)

Note to Gryphon, since he mentioned he hasn't recognized most of the recent suggestions: these are Ladybug and Chat Cat Noir, from Miraculous Ladybug (or Miraculous depending which translation you're watching). High-concept summary of the show: if Sailor Moon were French.

That is a concept that is too frightening to look directly at, I think.

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As concept, it's disturbing. In execution, it's rather fun.

He's right about the background being necessary, though; they'd probably be living on some Francophone planet, rather than using the rooftops of New Avalon.

Peter Eng
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Jillian Holtzmann is one of the new Ghostbusters and far and away the best one. The other three are sort of rather flat, but Kate McKinnon (who plays her) steals every single scene she is in and is the single best addition to the franchise they've made.

(I will refrain from talking about the movie here but may or may not start a thread on it. My gushing over Holtzmann is not to be taken a full-throated endorsement of the franchise reboot, nor is this disclaimer to be taken as an equally full-throated condemnation.)

-Merc
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Ah.

Just for the record, if anyone cares, I didn't skip the remake because of the female-cast thing, I skipped it because I have permanent remake fatigue.

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At the risk of breaking my own rule, I am rather surprised that this isn't simply Ghostbusters 3. It would have required about two pages worth of changes to the script to manage that comfortably.

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Think Agatha Heterodyne with access to 20th-century technology. :)

Even if the IPO didn't get them on board, I can see them as an independent group of galactic do-gooders. Winston is probably from Heston's planet, D.Va could be a Solaris native, and Tracer is probably ex-WDF.

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Is Mei from Hoth, or Ice Planet Halloran V?

Mei's name and face evoke the Earth Kingdom, but she dresses in the style of the Southern Water Tribe. Between that and her obvious fondness for and aptitude with Weird Technology, I can only assume she is a descendant of Varrick and Zhu Li.

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She does occasionally Do the Thing. :)

Reaper looks like he's from Kane's World, easily. And Lucio is about as Funkotroni as you can get.

Ebony the Black Dragon

"Life is like an anole. Sometimes it's green. Sometimes it's brown. But it's always a small Caribbean lizard."

Well, yeah.

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Roadhog looks like he'd be from.....um......dammit. The world Moose is from.

(EDIT: IT'S HOFFMAN! He's gotta be a Hoffmanite.)

(incidentally, a combination of typo and autocorrect made that 'looks' into 'looms' and I feel bad for having to fix it because *it works*)

Bastion is obviously an old battle droid who went a few decades too long without a mind wipe.

Mercy could theoretically be from almost anywhere, but somehow she feels....Valkyrie Medic, especially with her 'magic' healing staff.

Symmetra may be from the Algo system, considering that she seems to use photon energy to make physical constructs.

Zarya is just Russian. MAYBE from a high-g world, but definitely just plain *Russian*.

Torbjorn is a Dwarf. Honest to goodness actual Dwarf.

... and he's digging a hole.

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And I think he's in denial for some reason, because he insists (in game) that he's not one. Maybe he was raised by humans, who had to explain he was adopted when he started growing that beard at the age of 5.

Ebony the Black Dragon

"Life is like an anole. Sometimes it's green. Sometimes it's brown. But it's always a small Caribbean lizard."

Heheh. Some years ago, and after many years out of the habit, I was invited to play in a friend's Dungeons & Dragons Third Edition game (this was when 3E was the New Hotness). We had a week or so to come up with our characters before the game started, because our DM was keen on everyone having a Developable Backstory and ran a story-heavy game in general.

The character I ended up with, after much consulting of the Player Handbook and rumination, was a half-elf barbarian/sorcerer called Einar Skinnarland (named after one of the heroes of the Norwegian resistance in World War II, about whom I learned from the late Leo Marks's excellent book Between Silk and Cyanide). The thing about Einar that seemed like a joke on paper, but wasn't in practice, was that he had been raised from infancy by dwarves, and though half-human and half-elf genetically, was entirely dwarven culturally.

Among other quirks of personality, this meant that he was accustomed from long habit to conduct himself as if he were the tallest person in the room—even though, out in the everyday world, that was pretty much never the case, since D&D elves are shorter than humans, not taller as in many other FRP settings. He wasn't arrogant, but he always carried himself with a sort of unreflective confidence, figuratively if not literally looking up to no man. Unusually for a D&D character, he also had a day job (apprentice blacksmith) about which he actually cared; he wasn't just an adventurer.

For all that he came across as a joke character at first glance, Einar was quite a hit in the game (which was excellent, and ran for some time; I actually had to retire from it when I moved back to Maine, then returned to Boston a year or so later so Einar could "guest-star" in the Grand Finale session that wrapped up the campaign). Partly that was because a sorcerer who hauls out an axe and flies into a barbarian rage when his magic is tapped out is a thing that villainous NPCs often don't have a plan to deal with, but mostly (I like to think) it's because the other players thought he was a cool character.

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Ebony the Black Dragon

"Life is like an anole. Sometimes it's green. Sometimes it's brown. But it's always a small Caribbean lizard."

(* murderhobo - A current slang for the traditional D&D adventurer, who has no fixed address, roams from place to place, kills people, and takes their stuff.)

It would make more sense than the canon explanation that it has something somehow to do with the hijack-chip the villains put into her head to turn her from a loving wife into a sociopathic sleeper agent.

Because neurology has to do with skin color, don't'cha know.

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Their guns are made out of pain
They're crashy smashy bashy flashy fun-fun-fun-fun-fun
But the most wonderful thing about BBs
Is there is more than one
The~re is more than one!

Aside from the meatpuppet, "she" is, IMO, less human than half the omnic characters. They, at least, have free will, while it's unclear if Widowmaker is anything more than a killer doll.

Suddenly I'm having an uncontrolled flashback to the entire "necrophiliac morgue attendant" subplot of Sexy Losers. So that happened. Thanks, Blizzard!

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Point of order.

Rumor to my ears has it that Blizzard's reaction to Widowmaker/Tracer being a 'ship is along the lines of "As much as we appreciate the fanart, guys, Widowmaker is so much more terrible a person oh god you obviously have no idea please don't go there."

So, while I agree that her visual design is pure fanservice, I tend to think that they're trying to turn that into a disturbing disconnect with the inner horror, rather than a particularly weird stop on the fetish train.

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Their sides are made out of iron
Their guns are made out of pain
They're crashy smashy bashy flashy fun-fun-fun-fun-fun
But the most wonderful thing about BBs
Is there is more than one
The~re is more than one!

Unfortunately, disturbing disconnects with inner horrors are a major stop on the fetish train these days. Rule #34, dude. If Hasbro can't shut it down, Blizzard certainly doesn't have a chance.

Ebony the Black Dragon

"Life is like an anole. Sometimes it's green. Sometimes it's brown. But it's always a small Caribbean lizard."

"I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. Pornographic fan art starring D.Va and Winston..."

--G.
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Well, yes, but that's not Blizzard's fault.

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Is there is more than one
The~re is more than one!

Matrix Dragon, J. Random Nutter

On a point of order, Themiscyrans are always going to stand out at least a little in mixed company, but still, your point is taken.

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... and subsequently Jaune as well.

In thinking a bit more about this now that we know Gryphon actually knows what we're talking about, I would imagine at least a few of the Beacon students might be Jedi-in-training (and hanging with the Harry Potter crew). Ozpin as a Jedi Master strikes me as very likely, too. Oobleck's obviously hooked into the Speed Force.

And what is the connection between Ein and Zwei?

-- Bob
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My race is pacifist and does not believe in war. We kill only out of personal spite.

I recall he saw Volume 1, and the only real problem I remember was that the animation gave him headaches (Which Volume 1 is especially guilty of, thank god Rooster Teeth actually uses animation software now). Dunno if he's seen any more of it. I know some of the other writing crew still watch it, and I've seen some fanart Phil did for a Nanoha crossover on Spacebattles.

>I would imagine at least a few of the
>Beacon students might be Jedi-in-training (and hanging with the Harry
>Potter crew). Ozpin as a Jedi Master strikes me as very likely, too.
>Oobleck's obviously hooked into the Speed Force.

Besides making their weapons too consistent, I don't think FI-era Jedi are quite appropriate for some of the Remnant students (*cough*Yang*cough). Ozpin I'm seeing more as an associate of Xaviers, in regards to school for the Interesting. Oobleck... is just weird.

>And what is the connection between Ein and Zwei?

Both dogs remain silent on this subject, and Edward only smiles...

Matrix Dragon, J. Random Nutter

I do enjoy RWBY a great deal, and while I don't think Pyrrha was -screwed- like some other characters brought into UF have been (obviously, this was planned from the beginning, and it didn't feel cheap or vindictive) I do think the entire setting of RWBY could be pulled onto a remote planet almost verbatim. Failing that, yes, the characters could still easily fit in. Her as Themiscyrean fits very well too, as Gryphon stated--she WAS patterned after a Greek warrior, after all. Everyone in JNPR is patterned after a culture.

>
>... and subsequently Jaune as well.

Just wish we knew more about his powers.

>
>In thinking a bit more about this now that we know Gryphon actually
>knows what we're talking about, I would imagine at least a few of the
>Beacon students might be Jedi-in-training (and hanging with the Harry
>Potter crew). Ozpin as a Jedi Master strikes me as very likely, too.
>Oobleck's obviously hooked into the Speed Force.

Not as sure about this. It's great for their powers but is a poor fit for their weapons. And have you seen the leaked Season 4 trailer? Ruby's speed movement got a -massive- upgrade, and it honestly looks less like the Force and more like magic.

>
>And what is the connection between Ein and Zwei?

That is surely a question for the ages. XD

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I do agree that making Remnant a particularly odd colony planet -- kind of like Ragol squared -- would be the best way to manage the import. But that doesn't mean that we can't see Remnans in other contexts. (And yes, Themiscryan!Pyrrha works spectacularly well.)

And then there's this little bit from the other thread with new messages this afternoon:

>Daisuke Ido-Spengler, last seen way back in Scrapheap City Shuffle, is getting
>on in years and presumably has given up hunting rogue cyborgs with a rocket-
>assisted sledgehammer at this point, but he's still one of the galaxy's
>foremost cybersurgeons in 2410.

And suddenly I said to myself... Nora's grandpa. Or personal doctor, perhaps.

-- Bob
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There's an idea I probably shouldn't stick out there.
A little adventure with the dogs of UF. Can you imagine the chaos Ein, Wolfgang, and Riddick could cause? Add in Zwei and the carnage would be terrifying... and cute can't forget cute.

Bewildered Gryphon: Okay the Klingon revolution happened how?

"According to Anthy, Chu-chu and Sergei were talking one night..."

Peter Eng
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Serge carried the snacks, and the mouse, well, they needed someone with thumbs...

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Their sides are made out of iron
Their guns are made out of pain
They're crashy smashy bashy flashy fun-fun-fun-fun-fun
But the most wonderful thing about BBs
Is there is more than one
The~re is more than one!

Ebony the Black Dragon

"Life is like an anole. Sometimes it's green. Sometimes it's brown. But it's always a small Caribbean lizard."

Thanks, I had forgotten that particular fever dream of some hapless DC writer... ;)

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We would probably go for more of a Lockheed and the Pet Avengers vibe.

--G.
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FiMFiction.net: we might accept blatant porn involving the cast of My Little Pony but as God is my witness we have standards.

And nearly two months later, I finally recall that UF!Zuse in the Korra storyline is partially Roman Torchwick... <sigh>

-- Bob
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Also, more of a Shunt man myself, but I could see it.

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>Here it is. "Robot Wars (Android Love)". I am so sorry.

Which is worse - the fact that I used to own that single, or the fact that I could still remember the chorus before clicking on that link?

Mind you, I always liked Sgt. Bash more. Something to do with the flamethrower, I think - it's always satisfying to see something set on fire.

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