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Redneck

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(in my best stately southern accent)

It is my sincere hope that playing straight man to your Kirk in some way makes up for my unintentional insult towards the goldfish.

:)

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"Mike Wazowski!"
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Chad Collier
Digital Bitch
J. Random VFX Company

There are worse things.

He could team up with Ivan Vorpatril.

(The more I think about it, Red, the more those two start to seem very similar, y'know?)

>
>...please make the hurting stop...
>
>----------------
>"And what _are_ we dealing with? Little green men!?"
>"No. Little green blobs in bonded polycarbite-armor!"

--
"Eat hot blazing photonic pulse fire, you alien invading human-abducting saucer-alien bastards!" -- Captain of EAS Bellerophon, firing on a Vree cruiser.

>He could team up with Ivan Vorpatril.
>
>(The more I think about it, Red, the more those two start to seem very
>similar, y'know?)

what are you smoking? Ivan
a. is much, much more social
b. likes being a hero
c. enjoys titles, but not responsibility
d. finds all attractive girls interesting
e. would have been deeply intimidated by the duelists

Ouch. Mac is more likely to glue Ivan to the fender of his flyer than to spend time with him.

The only simliarity I can see is that both understand the maxim: "The reward for a job well done is another job".

Assuming Alys Vorpatril survived Vordarian's war. Given that Ivan was closer to the thone than Vidal, off hand, I'd say she didn't. But only Kris knows...
t.

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>The only simliarity I can see is that both understand the maxim: "The
>reward for a job well done is another job".

Mmm. More in the desire to not be at the forefront of Doing Things. Ivan is, generally, too lazy to bother with heroics, he wants the image without the effort. Mac doesn't even care about the image, he just wants to get by. But they both have that oddball sense of humor, ingenuity, and ability to rise to the occasion when prompted.

>
>Assuming Alys Vorpatril survived Vordarian's war. Given that Ivan was
>closer to the thone than Vidal, off hand, I'd say she didn't. But
>only Kris knows...
>t.
>
>Trigger Argee
>trigger_argee@hotmail.com
>Manon, Orado, etc.
>Denton, never leave home without it.

--
"Eat hot blazing photonic pulse fire, you alien invading human-abducting saucer-alien bastards!" -- Captain of EAS Bellerophon, firing on a Vree cruiser.

>>
>>>He could team up with Ivan Vorpatril.
*Freakazoid voice* Scream.

>>>(The more I think about it, Red, the more those two start to seem very
>>>similar, y'know?)
>>
>>what are you smoking? Ivan
And why aren't you selling it?

(snip _Civil Campaign_ quote)

>Mmm. More in the desire to not be at the forefront of Doing
>Things. Ivan is, generally, too lazy to bother with heroics, he wants
>the image without the effort. Mac doesn't even care about the image,
>he just wants to get by. But they both have that oddball sense of
>humor, ingenuity, and ability to rise to the occasion when prompted.

But Mac doesn't seize on kittens as deliberate avenues to win women's
hearts. Then again, he doesn't seize on anything as avenues to anything
else, does he? Ivan is just active enough to try for what he wants,
and lets everything else slide by.

>>Assuming Alys Vorpatril survived Vordarian's war. Given that Ivan was
>>closer to the thone than Vidal, off hand, I'd say she didn't. But
>>only Kris knows...
Nan desu ka? I must be missing something UF-wise, 'cause she's
DEFINITELY alive in the books. They'd never have managed Gregor's
wedding without her. Which bit should I go reread for all the
Barrayaran-type stuff?

(sees the 'Mac is not...' forum)

...my apologies. I withdraw the question and will go read the
material referenced therein. Gomen! n.n;;;

>>Denton, never leave home without it.
What's Denton?

>--
>"Eat hot blazing photonic pulse fire, you alien invading
>human-abducting saucer-alien bastards!" -- Captain of EAS Bellerophon,
>firing on a Vree cruiser.

Kawaii ain't just a privlege, it's a RIGHT! n.n

It hasn't been in any of the stories, but Redneck's made a few comments on these forums. The relevant links are:

http://www.eyrie-productions.com/Forum/dcboard.cgi?az=show_thread&om=97&forum=DCForumID1&archive=yes#11

http://www.eyrie-productions.com/Forum-docs/DCForumID1/253.html#8

http://www.eyrie-productions.com/Forum/dcboard.cgi?az=show_thread&om=29&forum=DCForumID1&archive=yes#7

Eric J. Heckathorn
ericjh@stargate.net

Depends. Mac used a legal technicality and a political situation to extract himself and some of his friends from danger. If Mac wants something strongly enough, it's difficult to say what he will or won't do.

>>>Assuming Alys Vorpatril survived Vordarian's war. Given that Ivan was
>>>closer to the thone than Vidal, off hand, I'd say she didn't. But
>>>only Kris knows...
>Nan desu ka? I must be missing something UF-wise, 'cause she's
>DEFINITELY alive in the books.

If it makes you feel better, she's alive in UF too... her husband, unfortunately, is not.

>>>Denton, never leave home without it.
>What's Denton?

A suburb of what some people call 'the biggest shopping mall in America.' Meaning Dallas, TX.

If you want to be technical, Denton is not a -suburb- per se; it's just that the D/FW cluster of cities has grown out towards it...

Redneck

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Nice place, for Texas. Friend used to live there. It has the single largest used bookstore I've ever been in in my life...

Blessed be.
Nathan Baxter

No, I've lived in a suburb of Dallas, and I live in Denton. Big difference. People in Denton have souls.

>>If you want to be technical, Denton is not a -suburb- per se; it's
>>just that the D/FW cluster of cities has grown out towards it...

A-men. Then again, that has its upside. The nearest good sushi joint is only forty-five minutes away.

>Nice place, for Texas. Friend used to live there. It has the single
>largest used bookstore I've ever been in in my life...

Recycled Books is by no means the largest bookstore out there, or even in the city. It may well be the largest privately-owned bookstore within easy recollection, but its distinguishing feature is not size. It's otherworldliness. There is a tragic shortage of good otherworldly secondhand shops in the world, and any place where the owner is reclining in a massage chair wearing silk pants and nothing else while college students are getting lost in the subbasements is a place you'll find me of a Saturday afternoon, let me tell you!

And never, ever, open the door set in the ceiling in the back room near the bathroom.

Mike Thedford
Dark Nation
Terribly off Topic

True that. But that's just good sense. n.n
By the bye, is this the coolness of Mac you hinted at at AnimeFEST?

>>>>Assuming Alys Vorpatril survived Vordarian's war. Given that Ivan was
>>>>closer to the thone than Vidal, off hand, I'd say she didn't. But
>>>>only Kris knows...
>>Nan desu ka? I must be missing something UF-wise, 'cause she's
>>DEFINITELY alive in the books.
>If it makes you feel better, she's alive in UF too... her husband,
>unfortunately, is not.
She had a husband? Oh, yeah, Ivan had to come from somewhere.
Still, he didn't even last one book, so hopefully I can be forgiven
for forgetting the elder Vorpatril. The one that's not Falco, that
is.

>>>>Denton, never leave home without it.
>>What's Denton?
>A suburb of what some people call 'the biggest shopping mall in
>America.' Meaning Dallas, TX.
<Austin Lounge Lizards>
And I'm goin' back
To Dallas, TX
To see if anything could be worse than losin' you...
</Austin Lounge lizards>

Kawaii ain't just a privlege, it's a RIGHT! n.n
PS: The bookstore sounds kickass.

--Wren, too lazy to reply twice or even to paste

Partially. There is still a bit more than meets the eye to Mac, if opportunity should come to see it. At present, I doubt such opportunity will come again.

If you'll recall, the last thing I said to you at AnimeFEST at Nick Leifker's room was, 'Do you know what nationality Mac is?' NOBODY guessed it. Nobody even speculated. I don't know if it was because everyone took it for granted or what... but nobody I -asked- ever knew. It wasn't intended to be a secret, but it did allow for a nice little 'ta-dah!' moment...

Redneck

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White Lightning Productions - don't tell the Pope

I'll look forward to it. n.n

>If you'll recall, the last thing I said to you at AnimeFEST at Nick
>Leifker's room was, 'Do you know what nationality Mac is?' NOBODY
>guessed it. Nobody even speculated. I don't know if it was because
>everyone took it for granted or what... but nobody I -asked- ever
>knew. It wasn't intended to be a secret, but it did allow for a nice
>little 'ta-dah!' moment...

Hehehehe. I didn't have to name-drop, even. n.n and I knew you said
SOMETHING interesting about Mac, but I have a memory with the general
retention of a seive, so I couldn't remember what it was. When I initially
read the LeClerq 'interviews', I couldn't even remember what a 'Freespacer'
was. n.n;;; It was damn cool once it gelled, tho.

--Wren
Kawaii ain't just a privlege, it's a RIGHT! n.n

Offsides

#include <dentonmustdie.h>

#91;...#93; in order to be a realist you must believe in miracles.
-- David Ben Gurion
EPU RCW #pi;
#include <stdsig.h>

In a nutshell, Redneck ha said that the UF-Barrayar isn't the same as Bujold's. Remember Vidal is emperor of Barrayar in UF. Alys Vorpatril was pregnant with Ivan before Ezra's death. Given that Padma was in line for the throne, and that in UF-Barrayar, there is a small war before Vidal's ascensi on, it was a guess on my part that Vidal tried to get rid of his competition before becoming Emperor. Killing Ivan and Padma would accomplish that.

Given the slightly moved up timeline of UF-Barryar, Alys woulsn't be close to giving birth when the war started. That's why I asked if she had survived.

Now it's confirmed that she did. That's very interesting. I am eagerly awaiting Elements of Command.

>>>Denton, never leave home without it.
>What's Denton?

Ahem! My Denton is a weapon. This might help:
http://www.baen.com/catalog/author_catalog.asp?author=jhschmitz

yours,
t.

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