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Offsides
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Nov-26-01, 10:36 AM (EDT) |
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"The New Anthy"
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I really like Crown of Roses - it fills in the background on the other side of things rather nicely. It also brings an issue first raised in Interlude at Bancroft Tower and continued in Hunted Rose - what's gonna happen when Anthy and Utena get back together (and peripherally how will this impact Corwin). I won't speculate on the latter - there's too many variables right now. But it does make the whole Utena/Anthy issue a bit more interesting. Until now, Anthy was the Rose Bride, and had no real choice in the matter - Utena was her Prince, and she was stuck. But now she's free from Akio's influence, and taking charge of her life to boot. Granted, she is still bound to Utena (as the scene with Reyearth(sp) shows), but as she gains self-confidence, where will it take her? I have no doubt that Anthy and Utena will move Heaven, Earth and anything else necessary to get back together. And that they will remain close friends isn't really in question in my mind either - Utena fought for Anthy's freedom, after all. But now that Anthy doesn't feel bound to the tournament, what's going to happen? I'm not sure, but it's gonna be interesting. And if the existing material is any example of the quality of what's to come, it'll be a great read too! Offsides #include <anthy.h> #91;...#93; in order to be a realist you must believe in miracles. -- David Ben Gurion EPU RCW #pi; #include <stdsig.h> |
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Star Ranger4
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Nov-26-01, 03:59 PM (EDT) |
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1. "RE: The New Anthy"
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>I won't speculate on the latter - there's too many variables right >now. But it does make the whole Utena/Anthy issue a bit more >interesting. Until now, Anthy was the Rose Bride, and had no real >choice in the matter - Utena was her Prince, and she was stuck. But >now she's free from Akio's influence, and taking charge of her life to >boot. Granted, she is still bound to Utena (as the scene with >Reyearth(sp) shows), but as she gains self-confidence, where will it >take her? > Exactly where she wants to go. IMO, she's given her love to Utena freely, aside from the bounds of the tournament.>I have no doubt that Anthy and Utena will move Heaven, Earth and >anything else necessary to get back together. And that they will >remain close friends isn't really in question in my mind either - >Utena fought for Anthy's freedom, after all. But now that Anthy >doesn't feel bound to the tournament, what's going to happen? Whatever Gryph and Co. have plotted to happen, of course. Yes, I know, I'm being a smart arse. However, it certainly seems to me that Anthy WANTS Utena back, WANTS her to be her prince, in short, wants to be whole again! That has nothing to do with the Tournament per se, save that it was the tournament that proved Utena's place as Anthy's prince. Their love and commitment to each other was something that grew outside the bounds of the tournament, and therefore would not be cast aside by Rayearth burning away her bonds to Akio. If anything (again, IMO) it means that when the big showdown finaly comes and Akio gets what he so rightly deserves, He'll have a nasty shock as he reaches out to his 'sister' only to find he can no longer compell her to aide him.... ___________________ Jer told Vaughn about me. I am once again a victim of Murphy's law... Of COURSE you wernt expecting it! No One expects the FANNISH INQUISITION! RCW# 86 |
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bparanial
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Nov-26-01, 04:53 PM (EDT) |
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2. "RE: The New Anthy"
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>Whatever Gryph and Co. have plotted to happen, of course. Yes, I >know, I'm being a smart arse. However, it certainly seems to me that >Anthy WANTS Utena back, WANTS her to be her prince, in short, wants to >be whole again! That has nothing to do with the Tournament per se, >save that it was the tournament that proved Utena's place as Anthy's >prince. Their love and commitment to each other was something that >grew outside the bounds of the tournament, and therefore would not be >cast aside by Rayearth burning away her bonds to Akio. If anything >(again, IMO) it means that when the big showdown finaly comes and Akio >gets what he so rightly deserves, He'll have a nasty shock as he >reaches out to his 'sister' only to find he can no longer compell her >to aide him.... >That would be a wonderful site to see :-) And Anthy now moves up there with Utena in the "Who Gets to Finish Off Akio" pool, only $2.00 US needed to play. Brad, who thinks that the writers are as much looking foward to writing of Ohtori's demise as we are reading of it. :-)
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Strife
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Nov-27-01, 00:50 AM (EDT) |
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4. "RE: The New Anthy"
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>> >>And Anthy now moves up there with Utena in the "Who Gets to Finish Off >>Akio" pool, only $2.00 US needed to play. >> >>Brad, who thinks that the writers are as much looking foward to >>writing of >>Ohtori's demise as we are reading of it. :-) > > >I'll put my money on the long-shot "Ohtori doesn't die." Mostly for >my own amusement, but partly because I like the idea. Just the >thought of Utena and Anthy finding a way to fix Akio Ohtori's >screwed-up brain sounds fun. Actually, this was my thought too. Although, with Eryie's track record on this account, he'll probably end of feeding the worms; but it is amusing to try and figure out how they may plan to 'fix' him. ~Strife Aileron Land charred Black, rivers boiled, Crops and wells alike despoiled, Mountains levelled, forests felled, -footprints of the beasts of Keld |
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StClair
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Nov-27-01, 02:33 AM (EDT) |
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5. "RE: The New Anthy"
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>>Brad, who thinks that the writers are as much looking foward to >>writing of Ohtori's demise as we are reading of it. :-) Actually, the relevant segment has already been written. Though if observing the creative process on this arc/saga has taught me anything, it's that things often change - a LOT - by the time the main story catches up with them. No more will I say on the subject. >I'll put my money on the long-shot "Ohtori doesn't die." Mostly for >my own amusement, but partly because I like the idea. Just the >thought of Utena and Anthy finding a way to fix Akio Ohtori's >screwed-up brain sounds fun. That, or Utena challenges him to a duel "to the pain."
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Gryphon
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Nov-27-01, 12:50 PM (EDT) |
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7. "RE: The New Anthy"
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>*grin* I believe I've caught the relevant segment myself. We've >already been told under what conditions Akio will 'die'. ... You have? Man. I wish I knew when I was revealing stuff I haven't done yet. --G. -><- Benjamin D. Hutchins, Co-Founder, Editor in Chief, Netadmin Eyrie Productions, Unlimited http://www.eyrie-productions.com/
-><- Benjamin D. Hutchins, Co-Founder, Editor-in-Chief, & Forum Mod Eyrie Productions, Unlimited http://www.eyrie-productions.com/ zgryphon at that email service Google has Ceterum censeo Carthaginem esse delendam. |
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Verbena
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Nov-27-01, 03:02 PM (EDT) |
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9. "RE: The New Anthy"
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>>>*grin* I believe I've caught the relevant segment myself. We've >>>already been told under what conditions Akio will 'die'. >> >>... You have? >> >>Man. I wish I knew when I was revealing stuff I haven't done yet. >> >Like you said, isn't it amusing when we assume something? > > >Or words to that effect.... *chuckle* Well, color me stupid or something. I think 'assume' is a bit too strong, but I obviously read a lot more into something than I should have. I was under the impression that since Akio and Dios were the same person at one point, and Dios would eventually integrate with Utena's personality, that Akio would die (or have to be killed) at the same time as the personality integration was complete. There's no IC basis for that notion, of course, but OOCly we've seen how often seeming coincidence and silliness is really controlled by magical forces we don't comprehend...and besides which, it would make for an appropriate climax to that story arc. If I were inventing the world, I'd say that neither could be accomplished without the other occurring at that same moment--that severing that connection once and for all isn't as simple as Dios made it out to be. I don't recall exactly what it was, but something in A Crown of Roses made that thought occur to me for the first time. Something Anthy mentioned, IIRC. --"I invoke the rites of fiery Muspelheim, and give thy soul up to the inferno's embrace..." ------ Authors of our fates Orchestrate our fall from grace Poorest players on the stage Our defiance drives us straight to the edge |
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