How do you know she can't already? Perhaps she just chooses not to. After all, such a display is unseemly, and makes a lot of noise in the Symphony.

(Perhaps. :)

--G.
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I don't know - I just hope not. We've not yet seen any evidence that she can, although she was obviously more than capable enough with Moloch's help. Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence, I know, but I'm certainly hoping.

As for making noise in the Symphony... I'd imagine that a Habbalite cloning Old Scratch for use as a giant combat machine piloted by demon-twisted angel clones would play some degree of Hell with the Symphony as well. Maybe that's okay by IN rules, I dunno. ;>

>(Perhaps. :)

Perhaps. Perhaps.
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Ah, but she didn't do it _personally._ She convinced humans to do it. That doesn't cause disturbance at all.

Oh, and as far as Rei+Jon goes...he's half celestial, if I understand this correctly. There may be a little more understanding offered to such a relationship.

Peter Eng
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Did you know that you can dance the Macarena to the tune of the Imperial March?

So... by IN rules, I can use an army of little Lucifers to take over the world and destroy things rampantly... and it's all okay if I say that a little demon told me to? In that case, 'scuse me a second, got something to look into. ;>

I still imagine it's not something God et al would really look on as "okay".
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That's about the size of it. See, a 'disturbance in the Symphony' isn't like a disturbance in the Force. The Symphony resonates with everything that's supposed to be there...trees, plants, rocks, animals...and, especially, people. Celestials do not fall into this category....they're not supposed to be on earth causing havoc. Nothing happens if they're disguised as mortals, and they can fool the Symphony by doing things that their mortal personas would do...this is why Roles are so important! But if a Celestial changes the course of events...making things happen that are both important and wouldn't have happened if the Celestial weren't there, the Symphony becomes more dissonant, in a localized effect that other Celestials can detect and home in on. The strength of the dissonance ranges from wussy 1/2 and 1/4 points, for destroying objects, to a hefty 10 for killing a person, to a massive 20 for a Superior appearing in mortal guise...and the worst, 30, for a Superior appearing in full glory. Even the most obtuse Celestials within a few miles will pick up on that, and it's a good argument for keeping your white fluffy wings under your robe, so to speak.
So you see why Natlateth prefers subtlety and getting everyone else to dirty their hands. Angels do that, too (read the opening story, A Bright Dream, for a good example), but they better be selfless about it or incur dissonance like any other Celestial.

Oh, PS:

>Hey, a thread I started and that Gryphon poked fun at within the first three >seconds of its existence has now hit 120 total posts. It'll hit more once I >post the conclusion that I've reached about the original subject. So I've got >absolutely no complaints, here.

Why do I feel so guilty now for being the one to trigger all those questions about power levels and whatnot? =)

--"I invoke the rites of fiery Muspelheim, and give thy soul up to the inferno's embrace..."

It's worth pointing out, though, that that of Jon which is not human is, by and large, demon. There are those in Heaven who would not be pleased to see such a creature associated so closely with so significant an angel as Reilael. (There are also those in Heaven who will not be pleased with the changes her time as a mortal have wrought in Reilael herself, but that is another matter.)

But, in a non-tragic world, these kinds of things have a way of working out.

--G.
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I remember when I came back from college. The family was appalled. "You're not the daughter who left! We don't recognize you!". Poor Rei. It's a good thing that she's one of the bravest, stubborn, and loving people in the EPU pantheon.

And of course Jon, Asuka, and DJ would back her. I can see DJ telling the Archangel Micheal to sod off. Asuka, with her firery temper pointing out harsh relaties about Heaven's questionable "solution" to the missing Angel problem. Jon, being uncertain of his own fate, but protective of Rei. I'm not sure what Shinji would do. I'm afraid I don't know him well enough yet.

And I can see Rei being quietly embarassed by this outpouring of love; I can also see her being very happy -- the Children are the best type of family: the ones you choose.

>But, in a non-tragic world, these kinds of things have a way of
>working out.

Thank God. When I'm low, I read your work...it helps remind me that there is hope. <grin> It also reminds me that things could be much worse. Your detractors may not like it, but then again, they're probably the type of people who think the end is more important than the journey. It's a pleasure to read works where the characters are imperfect but full of passion in their own ways -- and not damned before the story even starts.

I'm looking forward to NXE:TMP. Even if you kill everyone off, I'll still be pleased (depressed and weepy, but pleased) because you let them love and be loved.

But my anti-Anno comments should probably go to another forum. I'll be quiet now.

t.
who is feeling sentimental this morning. Nothing like blood-relatives to remind you why you choose your friends. Or are choosen by them.

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Denton, never leave home without it.

(DJ looks around at the rather disoriented crowd of people trying to work out why they're now wearing white robes and have their own built-in reading lights.)

"Oh, that went well."

"Christ, I can't leave you people alone for a minute, can I?"

--G.
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"You're not our son anymore!"
*blink* "I was never your son. You're my aunt and uncle." ;>

>I'm looking forward to NXE:TMP. Even if you kill everyone off, I'll
>still be pleased (depressed and weepy, but pleased) because you let
>them love and be loved.

Yeah, but then the story wouldn't really mean anything. "Failure of the human spirit" and somesuch. I'm not so naive to expect that everybody's going to be okay at the end (Gendou seems like a primary target for death, really), but I'm confident that the end of TMP will not be depressing, except in signaling the end of the series.

Because otherwise, we could have just watched NGE and saved Gryph some time. ;>
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I see Gendou, at some junction, literally THROWING himself in the way to save someone, probably Shinji. And as Gendou falls, Shinji returns to that state at Mount Holyoke, and people start to die...

Then Ikari finds himself, in robes, standing before the Gates, and sitting on a bench, reading a book, looking for all the world like he's waiting for a bus, is DJ.

"Bugger. Sorry about that, Ikari. Wasn't time for me yet."
"That's all right, DJ. At least I got the chance to save..."
<POP>
"....Shinji."
"Sorry, father. I zigged when I should have zagged."
(3-way Chorus) "Bugger."

>-Eliot "Water is freezing inside the Traveler's Building... not in a
>fridge, sitting on my desk..." Lefebvre

Ah, the joys of bad climate control...

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Geoff Depew - Mephron
"Big O! Showtime!"

Were I able to give her advice, I'd simply tell her 'Don't let what you are determine who you are.'

-={(Astynax)}=-
"Cryptic Bastard Mode Engaged"

That's not cryptic. This is cryptic:

Rh~fen kill~@5,.4.1 too and

The human wheel is [?could be]
a metaphor for S'pht [?time];

(circumstances are cyclical)

The Eleventh Clan will return.

You must go to them.

ands of (0)!the empir%&(f~F`fx\$C

--G.
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--
Geoff Depew - Mephron
"Big O! Showtime!"

I second that.

-- Bob (who's big into self-preservation)
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"Shinji. Same name as the master key -- well done, Ikari. Shinji can't be copied. Splendid plan." -- Tabris, in Tenshi Muyo! Rei-o-ohki

Frog Blast the Vent Core!

shootit!shootit!shootit!

boom

stupid assimilated bobs

Considering that Orcus is a production-model EVA, and that Moloch was the one that accompanied Lucifer, that can hardly be held against him. ;>
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Sorry, I'm bad with names. I'm bad with demons. I stink with demons' names.

--rR

S'okay. I'm good with demonic names. Heck, I managed to get Erin's car named Lillith and the car that she and her mother switch off on named Malphas, so I'd better be.

I'm hoping to have my first car be a nice bright green number that I can dub Lucifer. Gods willing... ;>
-Eliot "Yeah, I'll shell out for an 'EVA-01' license plate" Lefebvre
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