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The Traitor
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3. "RE: (frag) S5M3"
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   Tali'Zorah + the SotS cast = enough adorable badassery to cause a major gravitational anomaly. I am currently bouncing up and down in my chair.

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   RE: (frag) S5M3 Polychrome Dec-28-12 1
   RE: (frag) S5M3 Droken Dec-29-12 2
      RE: (frag) S5M3 BeardedFerret Dec-30-12 4
          RE: (frag) S5M3 glasswalker Dec-30-12 5
              RE: (frag) S5M3 BeardedFerret Dec-30-12 6
                  RE: (frag) S5M3 glasswalker Dec-30-12 7
                      RE: (frag) S5M3 Pasha Dec-30-12 10
                          RE: (frag) S5M3 glasswalker Dec-30-12 11
                              RE: (frag) S5M3 Gryphonadmin Dec-30-12 13
              RE: (frag) S5M3 Terminus Est Dec-30-12 16
                  RE: (frag) S5M3 Gryphonadmin Dec-31-12 18
                      RE: (frag) S5M3 Polychrome Dec-31-12 19
                          RE: (frag) S5M3 mdg1 Dec-31-12 20
  RE: (frag) S5M3 The Traitor Dec-29-12 3
   RE: (frag) S5M3 starless Dec-30-12 8
      RE: (frag) S5M3 Peter Eng Dec-30-12 9
          RE: (frag) S5M3 starless Dec-31-12 17
      RE: (frag) S5M3 Mephronmoderator Dec-30-12 12
          RE: (frag) S5M3 BeardedFerret Dec-30-12 14
              RE: (frag) S5M3 Gryphonadmin Dec-30-12 15

Polychrome
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1. "RE: (frag) S5M3"
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   Mordin certainly does get straight to the point... then keep on going.
That said I'm sure he supplied Tali with something eminently practical, like a Carnifex.

Polychrome


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2. "RE: (frag) S5M3"
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   Most interesting...

It's good to see Tali the younger finally stepping into the wider world of SotS. Also, it would seem (or can be surmised) that Tali's major gene mod just happened to skip a generation. Most interesting indeed.

-Droken

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BeardedFerret
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4. "RE: (frag) S5M3"
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   >Most interesting...
>
>It's good to see Tali the younger finally stepping into the wider
>world of SotS. Also, it would seem (or can be surmised) that Tali's
>major gene mod just happened to skip a generation. Most interesting
>indeed.

Maybe it only manifests on maturity, and Rael's got his head too far up his arse to have ever noticed.


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glasswalker
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5. "RE: (frag) S5M3"
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   >Maybe it only manifests on maturity, and Rael's got his head too far
>up his arse to have ever noticed.

Well, that's almost certain. But how often do quarians see each other sans suit? It might not be that difficult to go without noticing it for years because no one sees you retaining the same physical age. (Of course, Zira might have noticed it, and he might have brushed it off.)

"Everyone gets lost in the darkness
Dreamers learn to steer by the stars..."
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BeardedFerret
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6. "RE: (frag) S5M3"
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   >>Maybe it only manifests on maturity, and Rael's got his head too far
>>up his arse to have ever noticed.
>
>Well, that's almost certain. But how often do quarians see each other
>sans suit? It might not be that difficult to go without noticing it
>for years because no one sees you retaining the same physical age. (Of
>course, Zira might have noticed it, and he might have brushed it off.)

Maybe, maybe not. Rael strikes me as the 'separate beds' type, and it's not like he and Zira had any need to break his seals after they got done making Tali.


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glasswalker
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7. "RE: (frag) S5M3"
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   LAST EDITED ON Dec-30-12 AT 02:30 AM (EST)
 
>Maybe, maybe not. Rael strikes me as the 'separate beds' type, and
>it's not like he and Zira had any need to break his seals after they
>got done making Tali.

That seems likely. After all, something like that might get in the way of his military career, and he couldn't have THAT.... (I know pretty much all we've ever seen of Rael has been Tali the Elder holding forth about him in her letters, but you really get the impression that his career was like an openly-flaunted mistress that Zira was second place to, and Tali the Younger.... well, that's been made pretty plain.)

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Dreamers learn to steer by the stars..."
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10. "RE: (frag) S5M3"
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   >>Maybe, maybe not. Rael strikes me as the 'separate beds' type, and
>>it's not like he and Zira had any need to break his seals after they
>>got done making Tali.
>
>That seems likely. After all, something like that might get in the
>way of his military career, and he couldn't have THAT.... (I know
>pretty much all we've ever seen of Rael has been Tali the Elder
>holding forth about him in her letters, but you really get the
>impression that his career was like an openly-flaunted mistress that
>Zira was second place to, and Tali the Younger.... well, that's been
>made pretty plain.)

Really? That wasn't the impression I got. It was made clear to me that he did, in fact, actually love his wife very much (see his self destructive behavior immediately after her death), and the fact that he was willing to grovel for forgiveness.

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glasswalker
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11. "RE: (frag) S5M3"
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   LAST EDITED ON Dec-30-12 AT 02:55 PM (EST)
 
I don't doubt that Rael did love Zira, or that he does love Tali, but the advancement of his career does seem to have an overriding priority in most circumstances. That, combined with his fixation on reconquering Rannoch and disapproval of anything not clearly aimed at that end (such as his daughter's choice of pilgrimage), doesn't paint the most admirable of pictures.

It probably doesn't help that we mostly know about him from Tali the Elder's correspondence; her exasperated tone when speaking of his decisions and family interaction is genuinely felt, but she may not be seeing the whole picture when it comes to his household.

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13. "RE: (frag) S5M3"
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   >I don't doubt that Rael did love Zira, or that he does love Tali, but
>the advancement of his career does seem to have an overriding priority
>in most circumstances. That, combined with his fixation on
>reconquering Rannoch and disapproval of anything not clearly aimed at
>that end (such as his daughter's choice of pilgrimage), doesn't paint
>the most admirable of pictures.

"No, I think you're just going to have to bite the bullet and accept the fact that, although a fine and upstanding officer and a highly proficient spacer, your son is a little bit of a dick. It happens."

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16. "RE: (frag) S5M3"
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   >>Maybe it only manifests on maturity, and Rael's got his head too far
>>up his arse to have ever noticed.
>
>Well, that's almost certain. But how often do quarians see each other
>sans suit? It might not be that difficult to go without noticing it
>for years because no one sees you retaining the same physical age. (Of
>course, Zira might have noticed it, and he might have brushed it off.)

Is it official, then, that said mod was some equivalent of Omega? I don't remember it ever being mentioned in print, and had assumed it was simply a retuning of the immune system (which admittedly is part of Omega, but not the whole thing.)


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18. "RE: (frag) S5M3"
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   >Is it official, then, that said mod was some equivalent of Omega?

Neither Tali nor Mordin was entirely sure what it would do at the time, but it came up a couple of times in Correspondence that she doesn't seem to age. Mordin's starting point was the salarian "bootleg" version of Omega-2, which had to be considerably adjusted to have any effect on a quarian at all - so much so that even he wasn't sure how many of its functions survived the transcription process. Decades on, empirical evidence indicates that the answer is "most, if not all."

Interestingly, though Mordin was the lead researcher on the salarian Omega-2 project, he hasn't had the final version of the treatment himself. The preliminary model he used was a highly effective life extension, but - as he alludes to himself at one point in Star-Crossed - didn't address many of the cosmetic effects of aging, which is why he still looks quite elderly for a salarian. Of course, that may also be because he finds it useful to seem more decrepit than he is. In his old line of work, being underestimated often came in handy.

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19. "RE: (frag) S5M3"
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   >Interestingly, though Mordin was the lead researcher on the salarian
>Omega-2 project, he hasn't had the final version of the treatment
>himself. The preliminary model he used was a highly effective life
>extension, but - as he alludes to himself at one point in
>Star-Crossed - didn't address many of the cosmetic effects of
>aging, which is why he still looks quite elderly for a salarian. Of
>course, that may also be because he finds it useful to seem more
>decrepit than he is. In his old line of work, being underestimated
>often came in handy.

So, sort of like Nick Fury's Infinity Formula? (Which itself was an attempt to replicate Captain America's Super-soldier serum)

Polychrome


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20. "RE: (frag) S5M3"
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>So, sort of like Nick Fury's Infinity Formula? (Which itself was an
>attempt to replicate Captain America's Super-soldier serum)
>
>Polychrome

No, that's the SALUSIAN version of Omega-2. :)

Mario


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3. "RE: (frag) S5M3"
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   Tali'Zorah + the SotS cast = enough adorable badassery to cause a major gravitational anomaly. I am currently bouncing up and down in my chair.

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8. "RE: (frag) S5M3"
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   I apparently have the dumb tonight. I neither remember what the big undescribed (genetic, as implied by the other comments) plot element of this piece is, nor do I remember what story it originates in, and thus, where to find it. Could I be pointed in the right direction?


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9. "RE: (frag) S5M3"
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   The Exile story Star-Crossed will tell you everything you need.

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17. "RE: (frag) S5M3"
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   Right, I knew it was something I've already read, I just have very little space in my brain, and most of it has been taken up by a list of obscure prog b-sides.

Thanks to the subthread for helping out.


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12. "RE: (frag) S5M3"
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   And now, El Enchilada Grande!

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14. "RE: (frag) S5M3"
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   >And now, El Enchilada Grande!
>
>http://www.eyrie-productions.com/UF/EX/SC/

The audio version of this is quite good too, and features Gryphon singing!


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15. "RE: (frag) S5M3"
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   >The audio version of this is quite good too, and features Gryphon
>singing!*

* horribly

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