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trigger
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Jul-17-01, 01:23 PM (EDT) |
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"Many thanks to Durandal"
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Gryph - thanks for the message. It negates all the silly posts I was going to indulge in to satiate my NXE fix. Of course this post is silly - why would Durandal care that I'm glad he posted? t. Trigger Argee trigger_argee@hotmail.com Manon, Orado, etc. Denton, never leave home without it.
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Dreamshadow
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Jul-17-01, 04:47 PM (EDT) |
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5. "RE: Many thanks to Durandal"
In response to message #0
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Is Rampant another AI I don't know about? *grin*
Tom 'Dreamshadow' Tjarks ------------------------ "There are no answers, only cross references." |
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LostFactor
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Jul-18-01, 07:32 AM (EDT) |
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6. "RE: Many thanks to Durandal"
In response to message #5
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>Is Rampant another AI I don't know about? Rampant is the state of semi-insanity that happens when an AI partially crashes its system. Durandal, at least in the Marathon games, is a Rampant AI (hence the signature line "Yours in Rampancy"). Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong, anyone. It's been many years since I played Marathon, so my memories more than a little fuzzy. -Eliot "Marathon - like Doom, but less suckage" Lefebvre -=()=- We're only given a little time in our lives to waste. Make the most of it. Electronic Transcendence Productions Producer of, um, stuff for an unspecified time-period. |
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goldenfire
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Jul-18-01, 01:09 PM (EDT) |
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7. "RE: Many thanks to Durandal"
In response to message #6
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>>Is Rampant another AI I don't know about? > >Rampant is the state of semi-insanity that happens when an AI >partially crashes its system. Durandal, at least in the Marathon >games, is a Rampant AI (hence the signature line "Yours in Rampancy"). > >Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong, anyone. It's been many years >since I played Marathon, so my memories more than a little fuzzy. >-Eliot "Marathon - like Doom, but less suckage" Lefebvre If I remember correctly, Rampancy had four stages (well, officially 3, but with the whole 'escaping the heat-death of the universe' thing, most people theorized durandel had moved into a fourth stage of rampancy). For the ultra-curious, there are several links about Durandel (from Marathon) with the occsional tidbit about his original rampancy, from the game: http://marathon.bungie.org/story/durendal1.html http://marathon.bungie.org/story/durendal2.html |
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LostFactor
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Jul-18-01, 02:35 PM (EDT) |
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8. "RE: Many thanks to Durandal"
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>If I remember correctly, Rampancy had four stages (well, officially 3, >but with the whole 'escaping the heat-death of the universe' thing, >most people theorized durandel had moved into a fourth stage of >rampancy). Insane, Very Insane, Dangerously Insane, and Completely Flipping Looney? ;> >For the ultra-curious, there are several links about Durandel (from >Marathon) with the occsional tidbit about his original rampancy, from >the game: >http://marathon.bungie.org/story/durendal1.html >http://marathon.bungie.org/story/durendal2.html Yow. There's a mindbender, there. -Eliot "Been way too long since I played that game" Lefebvre -=()=- We're only given a little time in our lives to waste. Make the most of it. Electronic Transcendence Productions Producer of, um, stuff for an unspecified time-period. |
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goldenfire
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Jul-18-01, 02:42 PM (EDT) |
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9. "RE: Many thanks to Durandal"
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>>If I remember correctly, Rampancy had four stages (well, officially 3, >>but with the whole 'escaping the heat-death of the universe' thing, >>most people theorized durandel had moved into a fourth stage of >>rampancy). > >Insane, Very Insane, Dangerously Insane, and Completely Flipping >Looney? ;> > >>For the ultra-curious, there are several links about Durandel (from >>Marathon) with the occsional tidbit about his original rampancy, from >>the game: >>http://marathon.bungie.org/story/durendal1.html >>http://marathon.bungie.org/story/durendal2.html this is a bit long, but I post it here, rather than a link because, long as it is, it's still an escerpt...this is from one of the early terminals in Marathon: <Unauthorized access-alarm 2521-> <Security Breached 42-s<34.492.95.79>-> SEARCH HEADING: RAMPANCY <Search Found 264995 Headings> <REMOVE REDUNDANCIES> <File 1 of 1940237> "It is a side effect of Rampancy that AIs generally become more aggressive and more difficult to affect by subterfuge. Thus, actually disassembling a Rampant AI is quite dangerous. This was evident in the Crash of Traxus IV in 2206. By the time that the Rampancy of Traxus was detected, he had already infiltrated five of the other AIs on the Martian Net. The only recourse for the Martians was to shut down the Martian Planetary Net. Even then, it took two full years to completely root out the damage that Traxus had done, and the repercussions of the Crash were seen for over ten years after his Rampancy had begun. *** Rampancy has been divided into three distinct stages. Each stage can take a different amount of time to develop, but the end result is a steady progression towards greater intellectual activity and an acceleration of destructive impulses. It is not clear whether these impulses are due to the growth of the AI's psyche, or simply a side effect of the new intellectual activity. *** <section abbreviated> The three stages were diagnosed shortly after the first Rampancies were discovered on Earth in the latter part of the twenty first century. The stages are titled after the primary emotional bent of the AI during each stage. They are Melancholia, Anger, and Jealousy. *** In general, Rampancy is accelerated by outside stimuli. This was discovered early in Cybertonics. The more a Rampant AI is harassed or threatened, the more rapidly it becomes dangerous. Thus, most Rampants are dealt with in one mighty attack, in order to deny the AI time to grow or recover. There have been a few examples of this tactic not succeeding. In all of these cases, the Rampant was never brought under control. Traxus IV is the most notable example. He was finally dealt with by a complete shutdown of his host net. *** Theoretically, testing Rampancy should be easily accomplished in the laboratory, but in fact it has never successfully been attempted. The confinement of the laboratory makes it impossible for the developing Rampant AI to survive. As the growing recursive programs expand with exponential vivacity, any limitation negatively hampers growth. Since Rampant AIs need a planetary sized network of computers in order to grow, it is not feasible to expect anyone to sacrifice a world-web just to test a theory. *** In the two hundred and fifty years since Rampancy first appeared in the Earth-net, the stable Rampant AI, the 'Holy Grail' of cybertonics, has never come close to fruition. Since no Rampant has ever been controlled or turned to any useful purpose, it is the opinion of this writer and of the majority of the Cybertonic community that all rampant AIs are a danger to Cyberlife, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Thrashedness. (James B. Miller, 2320, "Life and Death of Intelligence") <Unauthorized access-alarm 2521-> <Security Breached 42-s<34.492.95.79>->
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