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4. "RE: The Art of Noise in Concert, 2410.02.14"
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   >And then I compounded my error by assuming that in the UF universe,
>much like in our universe, the 19th and 20th centuries were filled
>with all kinds of stories and tropes about Martian invasions (which
>you'd imagine would, in fact, make native Martians a little annoyed)
>when the more logical assumption is that those stories never actually
>even occurred in UF.

Actually, one rather imagines they were, in sort of the same way that the pop culture of the late 20th century had a lot of Nazis in it. Heck, there was another Earth-Mars war in the early 21st century, though, to be fair, we invaded them that time. A lot of the same framework is there, so to speak, but the cultural context is different.

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   RE: The Art of Noise in Concert, 2410.02.14 Mercutio Jun-11-13 1
      RE: The Art of Noise in Concert, 2410.02.14 Gryphonadmin Jun-11-13 2
          RE: The Art of Noise in Concert, 2410.02.14 Mercutio Jun-11-13 3
             RE: The Art of Noise in Concert, 2410.02.14 Gryphonadmin Jun-11-13 4
                  RE: The Art of Noise in Concert, 2410.02.14 Mercutio Jun-11-13 5

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1. "RE: The Art of Noise in Concert, 2410.02.14"
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   One has to wonder what the native Martians think of the Earthers continuing fascination, even four centuries later, of the entirely absurd idea, so popular in the two centuries prior to their first contact, that the Martians are just WAITING for an excuse to jet off to Earth with their tripods and heat-rays to conquer it.

Okay, yes, that happened one time. One time! But you know what, they learned their lesson. Why would they even WANT Earth these days? Honestly, the place is shit. Sarmak require truly heroic medical intervention to live in that disease-ridden atmosphere, the Reds don't care, the Tharks view a planet that is largely artificial even in its so-called remaining "wild" areas as the next best thing to hell, and the Malacandri are at home basically anywhere that isn't actively on fire, so they don't care either. And that's without the entirely fucked-up political situation thrown in on top.

The Martians don't want your women OR your water. It was five hundred years ago, let it go.

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(Oh, and Earth gravity is also totally lame. Martians weigh more than twice their usual weight there! You guys SUCK.)


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2. "RE: The Art of Noise in Concert, 2410.02.14"
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   >One has to wonder what the native Martians think of the Earthers
>continuing fascination, even four centuries later, of the entirely
>absurd idea, so popular in the two centuries prior to their first
>contact, that the Martians are just WAITING for an excuse to jet off
>to Earth with their tripods and heat-rays to conquer it.

Er, The War of the Worlds is a historical document. Saying its continued popularity in the 25th century indicates that people think the Martians are still "waiting for an excuse" is like saying neo-Classical architecture indicates that modern architects are ancient Greeks.

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3. "RE: The Art of Noise in Concert, 2410.02.14"
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>Er, The War of the Worlds is a historical document. Saying its
>continued popularity in the 25th century indicates that people think
>the Martians are still "waiting for an excuse" is like saying
>neo-Classical architecture indicates that modern architects are
>ancient Greeks.

This is an artifact of me posting here BEFORE I'd read Operation WINTERFEST, which was rather dumb. I had thought that Art of Noise had randomly written a song about the five-hundred-years-gone Martian invasion (I'm continually unsure what songs in their repertoire are covers and which are not) when in fact they're simply playing from a very old rock opera.

And then I compounded my error by assuming that in the UF universe, much like in our universe, the 19th and 20th centuries were filled with all kinds of stories and tropes about Martian invasions (which you'd imagine would, in fact, make native Martians a little annoyed) when the more logical assumption is that those stories never actually even occurred in UF.

Basically, I should not try to be funny, and especially not at four in the morning. That's on me.

-Merc
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4. "RE: The Art of Noise in Concert, 2410.02.14"
In response to message #3
 
   >And then I compounded my error by assuming that in the UF universe,
>much like in our universe, the 19th and 20th centuries were filled
>with all kinds of stories and tropes about Martian invasions (which
>you'd imagine would, in fact, make native Martians a little annoyed)
>when the more logical assumption is that those stories never actually
>even occurred in UF.

Actually, one rather imagines they were, in sort of the same way that the pop culture of the late 20th century had a lot of Nazis in it. Heck, there was another Earth-Mars war in the early 21st century, though, to be fair, we invaded them that time. A lot of the same framework is there, so to speak, but the cultural context is different.

--G.
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Eyrie Productions, Unlimited http://www.eyrie-productions.com/
zgryphon at that email service Google has
Ceterum censeo Carthaginem esse delendam.


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5. "RE: The Art of Noise in Concert, 2410.02.14"
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>Actually, one rather imagines they were, in sort of the same way that
>the pop culture of the late 20th century had a lot of Nazis in it.
>Heck, there was another Earth-Mars war in the early 21st century,
>though, to be fair, we invaded them that time. A lot of the same
>framework is there, so to speak, but the cultural context is
>different.

That actually makes me imagine that a lot of those "Mars Attacks" stories would have, around about the mid-21st century, gone through the same transition that old school "cowboys and indians" stories have here in the real world; i.e "Oh, yeah, those stories are SHOCKINGLY racist. They're an important part of the cultural canon but you'd never, ever try and make one today."

-Merc
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