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"DCUO Mini: Employee 2814"
 
   LAST EDITED ON Apr-09-12 AT 09:24 AM (EDT)
 
[The other day I was twiddling around with the Steam store and happened to notice that the client software for DC Universe Online is free nowadays. I already had a Sony Station account from untold aeons (and defunct games) ago, so I figured, Well, what the hell, let's see how the other half lives.

Now it often happens, in massively multiplayer online games based on licensed properties, that there is a type of character in the setting that is canonically supposed to be very rare, but that the developers know a great many players will want to play. This results in great swarms of those characters roaming around a world based on one in which there aren't supposed to be very many. The most prominent example I can think of offhand is Jedi Knights in the now-defunct Star Wars Galaxies. SWG was set in a time when there was supposed to be, in the whole entire galaxy... one. But it was an available player character class, so there were hordes of them. Strangely, the Empire never seemed to notice.

In DC Universe Online, it's Green Lanterns.

Anyway, when confronted with a situation like this, if one is foolhardy enough to care about the setting and/or explanation of the game world in the first place, one has to devise interesting mental maneuvers to explain such discontinuities. This... is one of them.]

Friday, March 9
Gotham City

It's funny how even the most bizarre situations can eventually become routine if they persist long enough. One of the oddest quirks of human nature is that we can get used to just about anything.

Or maybe I'm reading too much into the phenomenon by attributing it to all humanity, I don't know. Maybe it's more of a Gotham thing. Because here, at least, that's how most of us responded to the Brainiac invasion. After a few weeks, we stopped paying much attention. Dealing with it became part of the routine. Wake up, brush teeth, check the Justice League website to see where the hotspots of the day are, make coffee. We even stopped really noticing the hovering harvester ships after a while. Nothing to do with us ordinary citizens, after all. We just hoped the battle of the day wouldn't make us late for work. Getting to the office was hard enough with the El destroyed.

That's what I was doing Friday morning. Walking to work, cursing the robots under my breath - once because they destroyed the El and once because on that particular day, they were raiding a neighborhood between my apartment and the office, so that I had to take the even longer way around. If I'm honest, I was cursing the heroes a bit too. I mean, I know even the Justice League can only do so much, and the Brainiac thing was happening worldwide, but even so, when the siege has been going on for more than a year with no evident progress in either direction, a person kind of can't help but feel a little underserved.

And it was raining.

Then, naturally, my day got even worse, because that's what happens in Gotham City.

I wasn't mugged - that too would have been routine. I was born and raised in Gotham, I've lived here all my life. I know how to deal with muggers, and one of the relatively few nice things about this town is that the police know how to properly appreciate a citizen who does a little piece of their job for them. Hell, on that particular morning it would have been therapeutic for some little punk to volunteer as my taekwando dummy.

But no. No, the gods were not even inclined to be that kind to me last Friday. Instead, I had an origin.

I was just starting to wonder if I should've gone a couple blocks further north before turning west - I could still hear the sounds of the firefight going on by the construction site across from the 9th Precinct house - when something hit me in the side of the head. Not "holy crap am I going to die" hit me - more "ow, who the hell's throwing pebbles" hit me. I turned to look for the thrower, thinking I might get some therapy in after all.

There was a glowing green piece of jewelry hovering in the air beside my head. Oh crap, I thought, I've heard about this.

"Greetings," said the ring.

"Go away," I replied. I backed away, but it hovered after me, maintaining the same distance.

"I am a power ring sent by the Guardians of the Universe," the ring continued.

"I know. Go away," I told it.

"You possess the capacity to overcome great fear," the ring went on implacably.

"You couldn't prove it right now," I said.

"I am programmed to obey your mental commands so long as they do not conflict with the Code of the Guardians," droned the ring.

"Does leaving me alone conflict with the Code of the Guardians?" I asked it. "Because I command you to leave me alone."

Apparently so, because the next thing it said was, "Welcome to the Corps, Green Lantern of Sector 2814," and then before I could do anything about it, it was on my finger.

"No, hey, hang on," I said as the green light ate away my work clothes and replaced it with a uniform. I tugged at the ring, but it wouldn't budge. "This is not acceptable," I told it. "I already have a job. A soul-crushingly unfulfilling one, I grant you, but - and this is critical to my long-term career goals - one that's not going to get me killed by Brainiac."

What can I say? I'm a stress talker.

Anyway, the ring didn't reply. It might've been programmed to obey my mental commands so long as they did not conflict with the Code of the Guardians, but it was evidently not programmed to give a damn that I didn't want to join the club. Nor did it appear to be programmed to tell me what I was supposed to do with it.

The reason why I was experiencing that great fear the ring mentioned earlier was because I'd read something online about this phenomenon. The thing is that Earth normally has, I think, four Green Lanterns. There are two who have secret identities, there's John Stewart, and there's... what's-his-name, Ginger Moe Howard. But with this Brainiac thing happening, someone at wherever their intergalactic home office was decided that we needed a bunch more. And I mean a bunch more. Which, well, fine, right? More superheroes during a planetary robot invasion apocalypse. D'accord!

Unfortunately, it appears the Guardians of the Universe are having HR problems and couldn't come up with the personnel necessary to back up that order. At which point some unspecified genius at GL Central seems to have hit on the perfect solution: Just send a dozen gross of power rings to Earth unsupervised and let them do the recruiting themselves.

The obvious flaw in this problem - obvious to anyone but the Guardians of the Universe, anyway - was that these new recruits had no idea how to operate the rings, and had suddenly acquired superpowers they didn't know how to use on a planet where anyone with superpowers was automatically a target of killer robots.

Like I had, just now. Great.

Suddenly, making it to the office was no longer my highest priority, though that did raise the awkward question of what should replace it. I mean, yes, staying alive, but what specific steps was I going to take - could I take - to make that happen?

I decided to make a run for the 9th Precinct. The cops wouldn't have any better idea than I did, but I'd heard tell that they had a ground station for the JLA in there someplace. Maybe I could get ahold of a real Green Lantern and he could convince this ring that it was barking up the wrong -

- I came around a corner and ran smack into a patrol group of Brainiac's robot minions.

Crap.

The one nearest me turned and said something like, "Oan energy signature detected. Apprehend the human."

For a second, my mind went blank with a surge of panic that made what I'd felt when the ring attached itself to my hand feel like mild concern by comparison.

Way to go, "Guardians of the Universe", I thought. You just got me killed. But as I had that thought, a funny thing happened.

Samuel Johnson, the great lexicographer, was reported to have once said, "Depend upon it, sir: When a man knows he is to be hanged in a fortnight, it concentrates his mind wonderfully." I'm here to report that this is also true of people who learn that they're about to be disintegrated by evil robots from outer space.

OK, ring, I thought, time to start coming across on that "mental commands" thing.

Then, hoping I wasn't about to hurt myself and then die feeling really stupid, I punched the nearest robot as hard as I could.

Not bad.

Of course, the celebration was short-lived, because it turned out they only needed to see me for their boss to beam me up, but at least as I blacked out I had the satisfaction of knowing that that unit wasn't going to make it to the victory party.


I wasn't really expecting to wake up, so that was a nice surprise.

Mind you, the fact that I came to in some kind of high-tech prison pod, feeling like I'd just been dumped out of the Matrix, kind of muted the pleasure, but still, any alien abduction where you wake up at all...

"OK, power ring," I muttered. "For the record, it would've been nice if you had, I don't know, stopped them from beaming me up."

"I am programmed to obey your mental commands," the ring replied.

"... Did you just snark at me for not saying Simon Says?"

"Command not understood."

"OK, that's it, you've got a new name," I said. "From now on I'm calling you Jerkface."

"Designation logged."

I snorted, feeling a hysterical giggling fit coming on. That would never do. I knew myself well enough to know that it would just be the leading edge of a complete freakout. OK. Calm down. Get a grip. Take stock. What the hell is going on?

"Subject secured," a voice - not as mechanical as the one the robots at street level had had, but still not exactly what you would call warm and reassuring - announced from somewhere. "Commence digitization process."

Uh-oh.

"Warning," said Jerkface. "Threat of imminent dematerialization. Recommend immediate action to counter."

"For once we agree," I muttered. "Any suggestions as to how?"

"Command not understood."

I sighed. You'd think omnipotent aliens from the center of the universe could come up with a better context-sensitive help system for their ultimate weapon.

Hmm. It said "mental commands" earlier, and wanting that one robot to explode had worked out reasonably well. Maybe all I had to do to avoid being dematerialized was really want to not be dematerialized. I hoped so, 'cause I was kind of out of ideas otherwise.

"Error," said the first voice. "Digitization process failed. Interference from alien energy signature detected. Error - "

Now that I'd calmed down a little and could concentrate, I could feel the energy - the green aura that surrounded me, emanating from the ring - pushing back against... something... outside it. I focused on that sensation, pushing back harder, then harder still.

The aura punched outward into a sphere, tearing the pod that imprisoned me apart from within. I hadn't really been expecting that to happen, and as a result ended up faceplanting on the deck below before I could catch myself, but what the hell - I contend that there are no style points in escaping from alien disintegration chambers.

"Ow." I pulled myself into a sitting position and looked around. Big, alien-looking metal room. Bunch of pods like the one I'd just smashed my way out of on the walls.

"Jerkface, we've got to get a new travel agent," I mumbled.

"Command not understood."

"You're a lousy conversationalist," I told it, "but I'm going to keep addressing you so I can pretend I'm not, in fact, talking to myself. Even though I figure anyone who's been kidnapped and nearly disintegrated by an alien robot is entitled to go a little crazy. Speaking of which, is there any way we can stop that from happening again, or am I just destined to keep getting beamed into a new pod every time one of Brainiac's robots spots me?"

"Transmat signal analyzed and blocked," Jerkface replied.

I glanced at it. "No kidding. You can do that after getting teleported once?"

"This unit has been teleported to Brainiac assimilation chambers 28 times," Jerkface replied.

I blinked. "What? How is that possible?"

"This unit unaffected by previous wearers' dematerialization."

"Previous wear - are you freaking kidding me?!"

"Command not understood."

The horror of my realization blanked my mind for a second. These things weren't just pushy and high-handed, they had a lethal design flaw. Just as I'd feared I would be, the bulk of the people they'd drafted hadn't had any idea how to use them or what was going on. Taken completely by surprise, they got scooped up and wiped out by Brainiac's forces before they'd figured out what had just happened.

But the rings survived. Brainiac's pods couldn't disintegrate them... and they were programmed to find a new wielder if the current one died. So when their hapless owners got killed, they'd go find another sucker. Who, being just as unprepared as the last, would tend to get 86ed in similarly short order. Lather, rinse, repeat.

Forcing myself again to calm down, I said, "So what you're saying is that you've gotten twenty-seven people killed since you arrived on Earth."

"Command not understood."

"Oh, for - " I took a deep breath. "OK, never mind that for now, let's just look for a way out of here." I had another look around. Three other pods, empty ones, fortunately, though it occurred to me that they might not've been when I arrived... big power door at the other end.

Obvious exits are: North, I thought.

As I got to my feet I noticed that the logo on my chest - all superheroes have them, right? - was just a blank white circle, not the symbol I'd seen on the other Green Lanterns on TV.

"Hey, Jerkface, what's with my emblem here?"

"Badge display is restricted to fully trained and accredited members of the Green Lantern Corps," the ring replied.

"You're kidding me. I got drafted into a job that's gotten the 27 previous suckers killed, and I don't even get to wear the lousy company logo? The Guardians are the worst employers ever. I bet I don't even get paid."

"Medium-of-exchange recompense is restricted to fully trained - "

"Shut up. Just don't talk."

Silence.

"OK." I took another deep breath. "Steady. Don't panic. Everything is under - "

Jerkface suddenly made a beeping noise and then declared in a different voice, a woman's voice, "It worked!"

I didn't realize until that moment that it is in fact possible to recoil in momentary fright from your own hand, but it is.

"I'm online and you're awake and free. That's a good start," the voice went on. "Let's see about getting you out of there."

"When I told you not to talk, I didn't mean 'pick a different voice,'" I said.

"Pardon?" the woman's voice replied.

"I guess that's better than 'command not understood'," I grumbled.

"Oh, sorry," the voice said. "I'm not your power ring, I'm just using it to pick up my signal wave. The name's Oracle. I'm going to help get you out of there."

I stared in bemusement at the ring for a second, then said, "OK, sure, why not."

"I'm picking up multiple sentry-unit signals heading for that room. Brainiac knows you're awake. I'm afraid you won't get out of there without a fight."

I found myself smiling almost against my will as the aura around me brightened. "Given the day I'm having," I said, "believe me, I'm ready to break some stuff."

"That's the spirit," said Oracle cheerfully. "What do I call you? Are you planning to go by Green Lantern?"

I snorted. "Jerkface tells me I'm not even a real member of the club," I said. "I'm just, I dunno, Employee 2814."

"Well, brace yourself, Employee 2814, 'cause here they come."

My smile became a grin. "Bring 'em on," I said.

"Employee 2814" - a DC Universe Online mini-story by Benjamin D. Hutchins
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Pasha
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1. "RE: DCUO Mini: Employee 2814"
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   Oh, did they start allowing Green Lanterns finally? Or did you just build a blaster?

I played for about three months when it first came out, I should pop it back in, see what's what

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2. "RE: DCUO Mini: Employee 2814"
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   >Oh, did they start allowing Green Lanterns finally?

Yep (it's one of the DLCs). Although, as noted above, you don't get to wear the logo.

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   >>Oh, did they start allowing Green Lanterns finally?
>
>Yep (it's one of the DLCs). Although, as noted above, you don't get
>to wear the logo.

I have a character who's wearing a hoodie with the logo on it. Don't remember where/when I picked it up though,.

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8. "RE: DCUO Mini: Employee 2814"
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   >>>Oh, did they start allowing Green Lanterns finally?
>>
>>Yep (it's one of the DLCs). Although, as noted above, you don't get
>>to wear the logo.
>
>I have a character who's wearing a hoodie with the logo on it. Don't
>remember where/when I picked it up though,.

Oh yeah, the hoodie. That's a random drop. 2814 would probably wear one if she happened to get that lucky. On the other hand, she sometimes wears a Superman one, so presumably the hoodies are not what you would call officially sanctioned. :)

I've heard tell (and I make no warranty as to how authentic a fact it is) that the unavailability of the proper costume logo for heroes with the Light powerset, despite the fact that they are obviously Green Lanterns, was the developers' inexplicably effective sop to the Corporate Masters' concern that flooding the game with a million-zillion GLs when there are canonically supposed to be only 3600 of them in the whole universe would be a bit of a credibility stretch. The explanation (as Jerkface notes to 2814 above) is that you're not a real GL, you're just some kind of power-ringed "special constable" who'll be dismissed back to his day job once the riot is over.

Some years ago I speculated that John Stewart in the pre-Unlimited JL cartoon was actually this kind of thing and not a real Green Lantern, owing to how hilariously weak his powers were often depicted as being. I mean, in Starcrossed his power ring gets broken by some guy with an axe. That doesn't happen to proper Green Lanterns. :)

There are admittedly a lot of scale problems involved in allowing GLs as player characters in a shared-world game. To take one example, I mean, let's face it, to a Green Lantern - to anyone with proper superpowers - Bane shouldn't be interesting, let alone challenging. Nobody who can survive, let alone win, a fight with Mongul should even notice Bane. He's a steroid-pumped Mexican wrestler. He shouldn't even be able to beat Killer Croc. It was preposterous enough that he was originally presented as a threat to Batman, let alone actually-super superheroes.

(NOTE: The above may be informed to a disproportionate degree by the fact that oh my freaking God I hate Bane. ;)

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   My biggest issue with Bane is that, in every single incarnation since he was first put down, they forgot that he beat Batman with BRAINS not brawn. I mean, yeah he beat the guy up, but that was after a six month plan of wearing him down, psychological games, etc. The scary thing about Bane was that he thought.

Every writer after that? Big bruiser who punches through walls. It's annoying. I'd like to see someone do a storyline with him in which he doesn't have access to venom at all, and still manages to bust some major shit up, or hell maybe even get away with it.

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12. "RE: DCUO Mini: Employee 2814"
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   >Every writer after that? Big bruiser who punches through walls. It's
>annoying. I'd like to see someone do a storyline with him in which he
>doesn't have access to venom at all, and still manages to bust some
>major shit up, or hell maybe even get away with it.

GO NOW and get Gail Simone's 'Secret Six', wherein she does just that with Bane - he is actively avoiding using Venom because he felt it was becoming a crutch and he wanted to not have to rely on it.

Also, it's got some awesome writing, a number of terribly creepy villians, a trip to Hell, a character resurrection that makes sense, and generally is fairly awesome.

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20. "RE: DCUO Mini: Employee 2814"
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   Another you might enjoy is Cat-Tales by the venerable Chris Dee. She writes an intelligent Bane, among other things that are made of pure, unadulterated awesome. Like an infinitely likeable Two Face and Greg Brady, an ex-henchman of the Joker's.

Look, just go read it. :)


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13. "RE: DCUO Mini: Employee 2814"
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   >My biggest issue with Bane is that, in every single incarnation since
>he was first put down, they forgot that he beat Batman with BRAINS not
>brawn. I mean, yeah he beat the guy up, but that was after a six
>month plan of wearing him down, psychological games, etc. The scary
>thing about Bane was that he thought.

I've always preferred to think of the later interpretations as tacit acknowledgements that his original plotline was daft as fuck from the word go and only worked because Denny cheated. :)

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10. "RE: DCUO Mini: Employee 2814"
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   Well, the in-game explanation would be that the magical power copying Exobytes simply mimic the ring in action, so they're not as powerful as a full GL... but I like your explanation better, so much so I borrowed it for Maiden Emerald, a GCPD officer that had the ring interrupt her in the middle of filling out Form 34623-B (I hit Bane with my squad car), and 34623-C (And then I backed over the bastard just to be sure). Even if she could get rid of it, its very existence annoys Bullock, so she'd keep it for that if nothing else.

And hey, lower power level rings are far from the dumbest thing the Space Smurfs have done this decade. In fact, if they'd listened to Ganthet and had them go for people that had some training, it'd actually be genius!

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11. "RE: DCUO Mini: Employee 2814"
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   LAST EDITED ON Apr-09-12 AT 03:01 PM (EDT)
 
Or any decade, really.

I understand the desire to make them the equivalent of Da Chief and/or those Admirals back at Starfleet HQ - distant authority figures to make the cowboy cops and captains in the field look good - and not the Boring Omniscient Bosses that the Arisians were, but surely there's some middle ground between that and "should not be trusted to organize a school bake sale." Their utter incompetence at their (self-)appointed task has, like Azuria in CoH, reduced them to a joke. (As we see here.)


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14. "RE: DCUO Mini: Employee 2814"
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   LAST EDITED ON Apr-09-12 AT 05:27 PM (EDT)
 
> Their utter incompetence at their
>(self-)appointed task has, like Azuria in CoH, reduced them to a joke.
> (As we see here.)

Well, to be fair the MAGI vault in Galaxy City wasn't actually Azurias job. I'm not sure the Guardians have anything besides bad writing to blame their actions on.

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16. "RE: DCUO Mini: Employee 2814"
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   >Well, the in-game explanation would be that the magical power copying
>Exobytes simply mimic the ring in action, so they're not as powerful
>as a full GL... but

as an explanation for the origin of absolutely every player character, the Exobyte thing doesn't even stand up by the extremely liberal standards to which the explanations for things in MMOs based on comic books tend to be held, and can safely be disregarded in virtually all cases.

Invader Kyra, for instance, would be extremely surprised to be told that her superpowers derive from having inhaled magic evil-robot fairy dust from a parallel future. She's always been under the impression that they were on account of she's from Mars.

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19. "RE: DCUO Mini: Employee 2814"
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   LAST EDITED ON Apr-09-12 AT 11:27 PM (EDT)
 
>
>as an explanation for the origin of absolutely every player character,
>the Exobyte thing doesn't even stand up by the extremely liberal
>standards to which the explanations for things in MMOs based on comic
>books tend to be held, and can safely be disregarded in virtually all
>cases.

Yeah, it's even weirder in a setting where you can get superpowers in almost every way possible, from alien tech to magic to genetics, to speaking a certain mathematical formula out loud. Quite an odd move on the writers part, and easily ignored for RP purposes.

>Invader Kyra, for instance, would be extremely surprised to be told
>that her superpowers derive from having inhaled magic evil-robot fairy
>dust from a parallel future. She's always been under the impression
>that they were on account of she's from Mars.

Man, now I want to make a Martian...


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29. "RE: DCUO Mini: Employee 2814"
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   >>Invader Kyra, for instance, would be extremely surprised to be told
>>that her superpowers derive from having inhaled magic evil-robot fairy
>>dust from a parallel future. She's always been under the impression
>>that they were on account of she's from Mars.
>
>Man, now I want to make a Martian...

You can't quite, for the usual reasons that constrain shared-world videogame characters, but you can get reasonably close. There are no equivalents for the standard Martian density-shifting, invisibility (as far as I've been able to determine), or shapeshiting abilities (the power set that does some shapeshifting is otherwise not thematically that appropriate), and there's the... slight oddity that one of the available powers in the Mental set is pyrokinesis, but you can at least be green and have glowing red eyes.

Mind you, it's entirely possible that Kyra is only claiming to be an agent of the Martian government, and in fact is from some... other planet. I mean, yes, she's telekinetic and has Blast-O-Vision, but she also carries a pair of blaster pistols and she can only sort-of fly. And there's her nom de guerre, which she insists has simply lost something in translation, but...


... that uniform just doesn't look particularly Martian to some observers.

Although, to be fair, this one does, and sometimes she doesn't even wear one, as such.

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30. "RE: DCUO Mini: Employee 2814"
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   >Mind you, it's entirely possible that Kyra is only claiming to
>be an agent of the Martian government, and in fact is from some...
>other planet. I mean, yes, she's telekinetic and has
>Blast-O-Vision, but she also carries a pair of blaster pistols and she
>can only sort-of fly. And there's her nom de guerre, which she
>insists has simply lost something in translation, but...
>
>

>

>
>... that uniform just doesn't look particularly Martian to some
>observers.

I suppose it depends on how fond she is of vending-machine snack foods and wether or not she has a metallic backpack stashed somewhere...





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31. "RE: DCUO Mini: Employee 2814"
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   >>... that uniform just doesn't look particularly Martian to some
>>observers.
>
>I suppose it depends on how fond she is of vending-machine snack foods
>and wether or not she has a metallic backpack stashed somewhere...

The former would prove little; Martians are also notorious devotees of Earth junk food. :)

There's a generic school backpack available, and a kinda military/SWAT one, but she was too in-game broke for me to get her one for this joke.

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27. "RE: DCUO Mini: Employee 2814"
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   >Well, the in-game explanation would be that the magical power copying
>Exobytes simply mimic the ring in action, so they're not as powerful
>as a full GL...

Well, that's no fun. If I wanted to play in DCUO, I'd be a semi-genius who'd managed to duplicate the Gravity Rod.

Sure, it's seventy-year old technology. But it beats up mooks just fine.

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4. "RE: DCUO Mini: Employee 2814"
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   LAST EDITED ON Apr-08-12 AT 10:24 PM (EDT)
 
>>Oh, did they start allowing Green Lanterns finally?
>
>Yep (it's one of the DLCs). Although, as noted above, you don't get
>to wear the logo.

Guess I might wander in to try it out. All I've got there so far is my CoH main doing some recon for Portal Corp and a local girl granted the incredible Exobyte powers of hitting things with a stick. (Judging by the high rate of snark, it's possible she got her 'powers' from Batgirl. Stephs gonna be smug about that).

It's amusing how a world being invaded by Brainiac is still more cheerful then the modern comics it's based off...

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6. "RE: DCUO Mini: Employee 2814"
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I played for a couple of months, then got distracted by/drifted back to City of Heroes (my perennial) and Star Trek Online, as well as RL things. That was enough time to get two heroes up to the level cap; I also made a villain when the Electricity powerset came out, but didn't even make it out of the single digits before the aforementioned shift in focus.

Interstella was created pretty much entirely to make use of the "Cosmic" character skin, which I greatly wish was available in CoH. She's your righteous two-fisted flying hero type from Metropolis, using the Mental set (Telekinesis) and hand blasts.

Pathfinder Bravo is a staff fighter; ex-Army, he knows how to use a rifle, of course, but his mentor really doesn't like guns and just because the streets have turned into a warzone doesn't mean that shooting possessed citizens would be cool. I've given some thought to importing him into CoH once Staff Melee goes live there, but I think I want to keep him in his own milieu.

Overclockd is a speedster and a pretty amoral bastard, which is why he's now on Luthor's payroll. Martial arts and Electric powers, like I said.

Oh, and my completely silly idea?
Superman's Pal (aka "Dial 'O' For Olsen") - Every week, Jimmy Olsen is affected by a random Exobyte. Reroll with a new powerset, and take a shot.


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7. "RE: DCUO Mini: Employee 2814"
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   >he knows how to use a rifle, of
>course, but his mentor really doesn't like guns and just
>because the streets have turned into a warzone doesn't mean that
>shooting possessed citizens would be cool.

"Rubber bullets. Honest."
- Operative White, sublimely indifferent to the disapproval of Batman

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21. "RE: DCUO Mini: Employee 2814"
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   >>he knows how to use a rifle, of
>>course, but his mentor really doesn't like guns and just
>>because the streets have turned into a warzone doesn't mean that
>>shooting possessed citizens would be cool.
>
>"Rubber bullets. Honest."
> - Operative White, sublimely indifferent to the disapproval of Batman

*Quirks an eyebrow* Wasn't that originally Batman's line from Frank Miller's The Dark Knight Returns? Faithfully animated here, though they do kinda skip all the way to the fight in the mud pit.


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   Yes. Yes it was.


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15. "RE: DCUO Mini: Employee 2814"
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   >>Oh, did they start allowing Green Lanterns finally?
>
>Yep (it's one of the DLCs). Although, as noted above, you don't get
>to wear the logo.
>
>--G.
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Amusingly, when I looked up the Green Lantern Corps article on the DCUO wiki, I noticed that one of the red links under 'Members' is 'Green Lantern Panicked Recruit', which your short here nicely conveys. I keep waffling on the idea of playing this, now that its free. Maybe I will.

On another note, I can't help but wonder what would happen of a bunch of Lex-modified Exobytes were dropped into a universe without Brainiac to come looking for them (or where Braniac is less of a threat, relatively speaking). I mean, UF could handle it, its not like insanely weird things don't happen every day there, but RL Earth, or Earth Prime would be a hell of a mess, as would quite a few others.

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17. "RE: DCUO Mini: Employee 2814"
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   >I noticed that one of the red
>links under 'Members' is 'Green Lantern Panicked Recruit', which your
>short here nicely conveys. I keep waffling on the idea of playing
>this, now that its free. Maybe I will.

Heh, I don't think that's actually meant to describe a player character - there's a GLs-vs.-YLs-themed PvP event I keep seeing countdown banners for in-game called "Ring War", which I have never investigated but which I would tend to suspect involves an NPC or two by that name.

It does neatly summarize the 27 poor bastards before 2814, though. (And 2814 herself, for the first 10 minutes or so of her career, before she had her Beyond Sane moment in the pod. :)

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18. "RE: DCUO Mini: Employee 2814"
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   >>I noticed that one of the red
>>links under 'Members' is 'Green Lantern Panicked Recruit', which your
>>short here nicely conveys. I keep waffling on the idea of playing
>>this, now that its free. Maybe I will.
>
>Heh, I don't think that's actually meant to describe a player
>character - there's a GLs-vs.-YLs-themed PvP event I keep seeing
>countdown banners for in-game called "Ring War", which I have never
>investigated but which I would tend to suspect involves an NPC or two
>by that name.
>
>It does neatly summarize the 27 poor bastards before 2814,
>though. (And 2814 herself, for the first 10 minutes or so of her
>career, before she had her Beyond Sane moment in the pod. :)
>
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Well, yeah. The big difference for her is that she overcame her panic. Its a good short.

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32. "RE: DCUO Mini: Employee 2814"
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   A more general question, since this thread is here: What's the overall power level of the DCUO world? Is it more like the comics, more like the modern cartoons, or close to the middle? Also, how much are the people who got their powers from the exobytes (which AFAICT, is where all the new supers are coming from) downgraded from the level of the people they were copied from, if any?

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33. "RE: DCUO Mini: Employee 2814"
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   >A more general question, since this thread is here: What's the overall
>power level of the DCUO world? Is it more like the comics, more like
>the modern cartoons, or close to the middle?

It's an MMO with a level progression, so direct comparisons of this kind are pretty much meaningless. As in any MMO based on a prominent license, you start out hilariously weak and eventually, by slow degrees, progress until you're... still hilariously weak compared to any NPC whose name you would recognize. If you're running a licensed MMO, you can't have lowly rabble like the player characters showing up the iconic intellectual properties owned by the people who are paying the bills, after all. :)

At the same time, though, there are certain areas in which you're incredibly powerful simply because of the way the mechanics of the game world are set up. For instance, there appears to be no such thing as falling damage in DCUO, so even if you contrive to fall from the very top of the skybox to the street, you just make a loud noise and a mysteriously fleeting crater. There's no such power as super-strength, just a "weapon" set called Brawling, so if you're a two-fisted personage of action, you can at least attempt to beat up anything Superman could beat up. And so on.

TLDR: It has all the same stupid limitations as any other shared-world game, and because of them there's not really any point in asking yourself, Is that pre-Crisis Superman or Animated Series Superman? He's just Superman as much as anyone inside that game engine can be, and slightly more so than you because he's a signature NPC. :)

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34. "RE: DCUO Mini: Employee 2814"
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>and a mysteriously fleeting crater. There's no such power as
>super-strength, just a "weapon" set called Brawling, so if you're a
>two-fisted personage of action, you can at least attempt to beat up
>anything Superman could beat up. And so on.

Nitpick: There is a superstrength power. It lets you pick up and throw bigger shit, and thrown items do more damage/go farther. It's one of the "Iconic" powers.

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35. "RE: DCUO Mini: Employee 2814"
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   I went and looked up Iconic Powers on the DCUO wiki, since you mentioned that. The description:

'Girds you with strength to lift vehicles and smash opponents.

Permanently Gain: +100% Weaponization Rating'

I see what Gryphon means by 'hilariously weak', given how many canon superpowered characters, including throwaways and goons that don't even rate a name, can lift a vehicle (and you need Level 22 for this; does that mean the specific character has to be Level 22, or just that once you get any character to Level 22, its unlocked for all characters on that account?).

Does it model 'mundane' heroes any better (ignoring the fact that a canon Super Normal like Robin or Spoiler (if she ever shows up) will beat you easily, since that's an NPC thing)?

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36. "RE: DCUO Mini: Employee 2814"
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>Does it model 'mundane' heroes any better (ignoring the fact that a
>canon Super Normal like Robin or Spoiler (if she ever shows up) will
>beat you easily, since that's an NPC thing)?

The problem is that it doesn't matter who you are, you're at roughly the same power rating, so that there isn't a "best" way to play. So a staff fighting tech powered agility is going to be about as good as a blasting fire powered flying dude. Assuming equal equipment (and equal skill) you're both gonna be laying out the same amount of damage. So, no, it doesn't.

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   Also, WOW this game has gotten buggier and less responsive.

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28. "RE: DCUO Mini: Employee 2814"
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   >Also, WOW this game has gotten buggier and less responsive.
>
>--
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>What was that feeling again?
>Oh yes.
>-Rage-

Well, going to free would naturally get a lot of people signing up who are either a) cheap, b) broke, or c) both, who thus would not have signed up otherwise. That's got to slow it down. Does not excuse the buggyness, though.

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   The snark is strong with this one...

Thanks, Gryph. Always a joy to read the characters you seem to pull out of thin air at times. :)


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23. "RE: DCUO Mini: Employee 2814"
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   >The snark is strong with this one...

I figured you don't grow up in Gotham City (and not even in the suburbs, in the city) without either becoming completely colorless and downtrodden, or, well, that.

If Harvey Bullock ever met 2814, and if he gave her any shit at all about being a superhero, he'd be in for the full, unabridged "if you people were even slightly capable of doing your goddamn jobs, this wouldn't have happened to me, donut jockey, so don't even" edition of the Riot Act. Knowing Harvey, he might like that.

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24. "RE: DCUO Mini: Employee 2814"
In response to message #23
 
   >>The snark is strong with this one...
>
>I figured you don't grow up in Gotham City (and not even in the
>suburbs, in the city) without either becoming completely
>colorless and downtrodden, or, well, that.
>

Or loonier than a pitbull trapped in a spin dryer. Messrs. Dent and Nigma and Mesdames Isley and Quinn are native sons and daughters of Fair Gotham, after all. (I would include the notable epitome of Gotham crazy, Jack the Grin, but I believe that, as a former carnie, he may or may not be native born, but rather an expatriate from the rest of the world.)

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25. "RE: DCUO Mini: Employee 2814"
In response to message #24
 
   >>>The snark is strong with this one...
>>
>>I figured you don't grow up in Gotham City (and not even in the
>>suburbs, in the city) without either becoming completely
>>colorless and downtrodden, or, well, that.
>>
>Or loonier than a pitbull trapped in a spin dryer. Messrs. Dent and
>Nigma and Mesdames Isley and Quinn are native sons and daughters of
>Fair Gotham, after all.

Actually, Harley's from Bensonhurst, but that doesn't really speak against your theory. :)

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zwol
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37. "RE: DCUO Mini: Employee 2814"
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   LAST EDITED ON Aug-04-15 AT 11:00 AM (EDT)
 
>Now it often happens, in massively multiplayer online games based on
>licensed properties, that there is a type of character in the setting
>that is canonically supposed to be very rare, but that the developers
>know a great many players will want to play. This results in great
>swarms of those characters roaming around a world based on one in
>which there aren't supposed to be very many. The most prominent
>example I can think of offhand is Jedi Knights in the now-defunct Star
>Wars Galaxies. SWG was set in a time when there was supposed to be,
>in the whole entire galaxy... one. But it was an available player
>character class, so there were hordes of them. Strangely, the Empire
>never seemed to notice.

The forum reshuffle got me looking at old posts again, and this caught my eye. I never played SWG myself, but I happen to sort-of know its lead designer, and just last April he posted a series of retrospective essays on SWG, including one that directly addresses this problem, including the "strangely, the Empire never seemed to notice" bit, and several possibly-better designs they considered but didn't manage to get into production for one reason or another.

The whole series of posts is linked from here.


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