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48. "RE: And then, one day..."
In response to message #45
 
   LAST EDITED ON Aug-06-14 AT 01:01 AM (EDT)
 
>It's just that the one contriving it was Anthy.
>
>She's a witch, you know. They're all a little bit evil. They can't
>help it; it's part of the RFC.

And we love her for it.

>>Understand I'm not condemning you or your work because there are
>>things in it which reflect on the many unexamined assumptions and
>>ideas you may hold as a cisgender, heterosexual, white male in your
>>late 30s/early 40s (I know you're a few years older than me, but I
>>don't recall exactly how much).
>
>Oh, here we go. I was wondering how long it would take someone
>to play the "Of course you don't know you're Completely Wrong
>because of the innate bias of your Privileged Sociosexual Position.
>Patpat, there there, it's not your fault" card.

I'm fairly sure this is a relatively innocent case of "Laudre is over-thinking and/or over-stating things", not the poorly-disguised insult such statements often are. (Important Note for Laudre: such statements are usually poorly-disguised insults. Avoid listing the ways in which someone is privileged.)

>>There's lots and lots of EPU output I still
>>read (I'm digging the Korra stuff so far
>
>... which is an interesting trick, since most of her UF screen time so
>far has been part and parcel of the Corwin-Utena arc of the Symphony.
>I'm so confused.

So am I (confused, that is).

>>Honestly? There's not another word that'd take the place of
>>"heteronormative" in the way I'd be using it.
>
>Maybe not in one word, but there must be a set of simpler words that
>convey the same idea, or the word wouldn't be definable in the first
>place. That goes for any sesquipedalianism, whether it's
>gender-politics jargon or a description of an electronic component.

My only beef with "heteronormative" as a word (and several other gender-politics terms) is that it violates the expectation that prefixes and root words have consistent meaning: in the rest of the English language, "hetero-" means "differing" and "normative" means "of, pertaining to, or attempting to establish a norm or standard", so by rights "heteronormative" aught to mean "of, pertaining to, or attempting to establish a differing norm or standard". But of course it doesn't.

>Regardless, you're right in assuming that I have zero interest in
>debating whether Utena's relationship of Corwin is intended as some
>kind of authorial refutation of her bisexuality (NOTE: it isn't),
>which is where context implies you were probably going with that.

I don't think that's where Laudre was going, but then I may be blinded by the fact that it's pretty much impossible: Utena has both a husband and a wife. She's virtually the definition of "bisexual".


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