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Gryphon
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May-18-08, 02:41 AM (EST) |
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"matters automotive"
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Benjamin Stark owns many automobiles. Most of them were Tony's; Ben's been too busy to do a lot of heavy car shopping since he inherited Tony's stuff, and anyway, it's only fairly recently that he's gotten at all accustomed to being able to afford pretty much anything - that, as Tony would probably have put it, he's learned to think like a billionaire. A couple of the others, including the 2019 Camaro that appears in Meet Interesting Singles, he had before he went to Vietnam. He's driven most of Tony's cars at least once, and sold a few of the ones he didn't like (he is, for instance, not much of a fan of Italian supercars, so he got rid of most of those, except for the Lamborghini Gallardo, which he kept because it once belonged to Jeremy Clarkson), but there are two he found in Tony's private warehouse, after it became his private warehouse, that he would never dream of parting with, but hasn't driven even once. One is a 1965 Jaguar E-type Series I roadster, which is perhaps the handsomest car ever made, but which (in typical '60s Jag fashion) does not work. He hasn't so much as touched the other... ... because he's pretty sure it would kill him. This is, by the way, an actual mockup from Bugatti's "build your Veyron" web toy. This is not a color scheme they recommend, but you could get it if you wanted. What the hell, says Bugatti, it's your two million United States dollars. Rumor has it Tony based the color scheme on that of his elementary school. --G. -><- Benjamin D. Hutchins, Co-Founder, Editor-in-Chief, & Forum Admin Eyrie Productions, Unlimited http://www.eyrie-productions.com/ Ceterum censeo Carthaginem esse delendam. |
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Gryphon
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May-18-08, 01:56 PM (EST) |
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3. "RE: matters automotive"
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>Geez. with all that money and talent you'd think Tony could have >found someone who could at least duplicate the bum parts.Oh, I'm sure he could have; he just never got around to it. He had a lot of irons in the fire. He might even have forgotten he had the E-type. (Sort of the automotive equivalent of that bit from the 1989 Batman: "Do you enjoy eating in this room?" "Huh? Oh, yeah, it's great. ... Actually, I don't think I've ever been in this room before." :) >Though I have to ask, kill >him how? as in not able to handle such raw power and performance? or >that his heart wouldnt be able to stand up to the adrenaline rushes >pre replacement? Possibly both. I mean, the car does have (supposedly, in the promotional materials) more than a thousand horsepower. It'll go 253 and a half miles an hour. I'm actually given to understand (mainly from its appearances on Top Gear) that the Veyron is a shockingly well-mannered car, astonishingly easy to drive, but if I suddenly and unexpectedly came into possession of one, I'm not sure I'd have full confidence in those reports. :) Pre-heart-replacement, there was also the small matter that he never knew when he might just keel over dead, or at least unconscious, and the Veyron is (by that timeframe) an older car that doesn't have an autopilot. It can't take over and get itself safely stopped, or to the hospital, or what have you if the driver suddenly loses consciousness. Thus, not only might it kill him, it might kill someone else - not a risk he was prepared to take. (He also never rode a motorcycle during that time period for the same reason. In 2032, modern motorcycles still can't drive themselves; it's one of the things bikers use as a point of pride over car drivers.) --G. -><- Benjamin D. Hutchins, Co-Founder, Editor-in-Chief, & Forum Admin Eyrie Productions, Unlimited http://www.eyrie-productions.com/ Ceterum censeo Carthaginem esse delendam. |
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SpottedKitty
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May-18-08, 08:03 PM (EST) |
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4. "RE: matters automotive"
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>supercars, so he got rid of most of those, except for the Lamborghini >Gallardo, which he kept because it once belonged to Jeremy Clarkson), You do know it hurts to laugh this much, don't you...? -- Unable to save the day: File is read-only. |
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Gryphon
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May-18-08, 09:00 PM (EST) |
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5. "RE: matters automotive"
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>>supercars, so he got rid of most of those, except for the Lamborghini >>Gallardo, which he kept because it once belonged to Jeremy Clarkson), > >You do know it hurts to laugh this much, don't you...? Well, Clarkson does actually have one. :) --G. -><- Benjamin D. Hutchins, Co-Founder, Editor-in-Chief, & Forum Admin Eyrie Productions, Unlimited http://www.eyrie-productions.com/ Ceterum censeo Carthaginem esse delendam. |
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Gryphon
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May-29-08, 03:07 PM (EST) |
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6. "RE: matters automotive"
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LAST EDITED ON May-29-08 AT 03:09 PM (EDT) >>>supercars, so he got rid of most of those, except for the Lamborghini >>>Gallardo, which he kept because it once belonged to Jeremy Clarkson), >> >>You do know it hurts to laugh this much, don't you...? > >Well, Clarkson does actually have one. :) Oh, right, I forgot one. Ben kept two of the Italian sports cars - the Gallardo, as mentioned above, and the Ferrari 308 GTB, for reasons obvious to anyone from the '80s. Mind you, those aren't the only Italian cars in the warehouse, just the only full-on sports cars. Only a completely heartless individual, for example, would have gotten rid of the Fiat 500 Tony bought to annoy one of his professors during his semester of industrial design classwork at the Istituto Europeo di Design in Rome. --G. -><- Benjamin D. Hutchins, Co-Founder, Editor-in-Chief, & Forum Admin Eyrie Productions, Unlimited http://www.eyrie-productions.com/ Ceterum censeo Carthaginem esse delendam. |
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Gryphon
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Jan-15-09, 11:14 PM (EST) |
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9. "RE: matters automotive"
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>And personally, I think it's a lot better looking than the Veyron. Really? I think it looks like a 1970s Lamborghini drawn by a ten-year-old who saw a poster of one once, but can't quite remember what it looked like. Anyway, the thing I love about the Veyron is not that it's unbelievably powerful and faster than most general aviation aircraft, although it is and it is. It's that it's been meticulously engineered to work as a car. It was built by one of the world's foremost automakers specifically to stand up to decades of regular use, like - indeed, it's held to a higher standard than most - regular cars. I suspect the Ultimate Aero, on the other hand, was built for one purpose and one purpose only - to go faster than the Veyron, once, so that they could say so in the press release without lying. It might well do a mile an hour or two more than the Veyron, but it'll be hot and squirrelly and uncomfortable while it does it, and once it's done it a couple times it'll break down spectacularly and never work again. I mean, come on, their webpage has a carbon fiber background pattern. How meshback is that? :) --G. -><- Benjamin D. Hutchins, Co-Founder, Editor-in-Chief, & Forum Admin Eyrie Productions, Unlimited http://www.eyrie-productions.com/ Ceterum censeo Carthaginem esse delendam. |
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MoonEyes
Member since Jun-29-03
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Jan-16-09, 04:33 AM (EST) |
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11. "RE: matters automotive"
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>I suspect the Ultimate Aero, on the other hand, was built for one >purpose and one purpose only - to go faster than the Veyron, once, so >that they could say so in the press release without lying. It might >well do a mile an hour or two more than the Veyron, but it'll be hot >and squirrelly and uncomfortable while it does it, and once it's done >it a couple times it'll break down spectacularly and never work again. On the other(third?) hand, the Veyron was tested on a track with a NINE KILOMETER straight, on which to get up to speed. The PREVIOUS holder of the title, Koenigsegg, invited Bugatti to test the car on the same track THEY did...but Bugatti declined. So, the Italians aren't exactly innocent of the 'look, our car is FASTER' thing. That said, it's still a very lovely car, with a lot of heritage evident. Gott's Leetle Feesh in Trousers! |
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Pasha
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Jan-16-09, 01:22 PM (EST) |
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12. "RE: matters automotive"
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LAST EDITED ON Jan-16-09 AT 01:23 PM (EST) >On the other(third?) hand, the Veyron was tested on a track with a >NINE KILOMETER straight, on which to get up to speed. The PREVIOUS >holder of the title, Koenigsegg, invited Bugatti to test the car on >the same track THEY did...but Bugatti declined. So, the Italians >aren't exactly innocent of the 'look, our car is FASTER' thing. That >said, it's still a very lovely car, with a lot of heritage evident. Germans. The Veyron is a VW, not an Italian car. And, well..As much as I'd rather own a Koenigsegg (I think it's a better looking car, and if I'm gonna be dropping ~1Musd for a car, I care more about my personal asthetic then a few kph.) I have to admit that the Veyron is a better engineered car. But I agree with Mr. Clarkson: A car like that should make you feel like you're 12 years old. And about to die. -- -Pasha ("I can't relax when you have the keys to a V8 BLENDER!!") What was that feeling again? Oh yes. -Rage- |
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MoonEyes
Member since Jun-29-03
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Jan-16-09, 03:33 PM (EST) |
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13. "RE: matters automotive"
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LAST EDITED ON Jan-16-09 AT 03:50 PM (EST) >Germans. > >The Veyron is a VW, not an Italian car. > THAT...depends on your point of view. Bugatti was a FRENCH company, founded in Molsheim, by an Italian, Ettore Bugatti. Later sold to Hispano-Suiza, which, as the name suggests, was Spanish-Swiss. And now, the brand is owned by VW, which is indeed German. The Veyron, specifically, was designed by a Slovak, and built, once again, in France. BUT, the heritage of that car, as you look at it as well as the brand, is clearly Italian, harkening back to Bugatti's creations.
As an aside, related to what Bugatti made in the way of cars...21 feet long, fraction under 170 inches wheelbase, 7000lbs and with a straight-8 of 778 cui...and all back in 1927. Gods what a car! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bugatti_Type_41 EDIT: adding the remarkable Royale. Which sort of reminds me a little of a Maybach 62, in a way, sizewise at least.
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Doghead13
Member since Dec-30-08
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Jan-26-09, 04:26 PM (EST) |
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16. "RE: matters automotive"
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And that too depends on your point of view. Modern Bugattis are a brand name used by VW. In Germany. Someone sold the name, k? Cheers, Cal. Wallace Calumny Broom Worx Xtreme Performance Specials. Brakes optional. |
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Gryphon
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Jan-26-09, 09:42 PM (EST) |
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17. "RE: matters automotive"
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>Modern Bugattis are a brand name used by VW. Uh, yeah, the post you were responding to covered that. >In Germany. ... Except that the actual Bugatti factory is in France. Well, okay, it's in Alsace, and that's often been kind of a point of contention. But at the moment, it's part of France. I think one of the aims of this whole "Eurozone" nonsense is to make distinctions like that progressively less relevant anyway, but there you are. --G. -><- Benjamin D. Hutchins, Co-Founder, Editor-in-Chief, & Forum Admin Eyrie Productions, Unlimited http://www.eyrie-productions.com/ Ceterum censeo Carthaginem esse delendam. |
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