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"New Avalon"
 
   I just realized, I don't understand how New Avalon works. Is it on a planet/planetoid with in the Sphere? Is it like the pre-Columbian ideas of Earth - flat, stretching towards the horizon?

How was New Avalon built? And why does Gryphon continue on as it's head of state and not Lord F? Is WDF the offical miltiary force of New Avalon, or are they still independent?

Also, I admit total ignorance on how a Dyson Sphere is suppose to work. I understand that it harnesses the power of a sun (in this case Zeta Cygni) to create the Sphere...but what is the advantage of having a Sphere? Militarily, does it make a good shield? Why use a Dyson Sphere at Zeta Cygni? Is it just something that's cool?

curious,
t.

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  RE: New Avalon TRB Aug-01-01 1
  RE: New Avalon Gryphonadmin Aug-01-01 2
     RE: New Avalon Star Ranger4 Aug-02-01 3
         RE: New Avalon Gryphonadmin Aug-02-01 4
             RE: New Avalon Mephronmoderator Aug-02-01 5
             RE: New Avalon Star Ranger4 Aug-02-01 6

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1. "RE: New Avalon"
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   LAST EDITED ON Aug-01-01 AT 02:26 PM (EDT)

Alright, lemme try my hand here... I'm not going to be entirely accurate, as I have a bad habit of not keeping the info in my brain current, but this ought to clear things up a bit.

First of all, a Dyson Sphere is a huge, ridiculously huge, really damn big hollow sphere, which one could conceivably construct around an entire star, perhaps an entire solar system, thusly enabling one to harness almost the entire sum of energy said star radiates. This energy can be used for a variety of purposes, not the least of which are climate control and terraforming of planets inside the sphere.
If I recall correctly, New Avalon is a rather large city that was built on the inside surface of the sphere. As such, it can and probably does stretch to the horizon, but if one took the time to circumnavigate the vast circumference of the sphere, one could eventually return there. I suppose it would make for an imposing military blockade, a spherical, cosmic scale Maginot Line, and the chances of its destruction are lowered by its sheer size. However, if it were destroyed, the results would be catastrophic to the point of making Sonset look like a cheap firecracker.
I leave the socio-politikal (sic) questions, and the correction of my errors, to Those Who Know (tm) ^_^

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2. "RE: New Avalon"
In response to message #0
 
   >I just realized, I don't understand how New Avalon works. Is it on a
>planet/planetoid with in the Sphere? Is it like the pre-Columbian
>ideas of Earth - flat, stretching towards the horizon?

It's on a pseudocontinent suspended from the inside of the sphere by a complex system of plot mechanics which cause it to, among other things, turn so that there's day and night, and tilt so that there are seasons.

I have no intention of figuring it out any further than that.

>How was New Avalon built? And why does Gryphon continue on as it's
>head of state and not Lord F? Is WDF the offical miltiary force of
>New Avalon, or are they still independent?

The Republic of Zeta Cygni and the Wedge Defense Force are separate political entities. The WDF are, and in fact have always been, mercenaries; it's just that they've only ever had one customer (the United Galactica before the Exile, the UFP afterward).

The Republic is an extremely free-form state, whose inner workings I haven't gone into for the same reason I've never bothered defining precisely how the day/night/weather thing works on the Avalon pseudocontinent - because it's fiddly crap that's not important to the story.

>Also, I admit total ignorance on how a Dyson Sphere is suppose to
>work. I understand that it harnesses the power of a sun (in this case
>Zeta Cygni) to create the Sphere...but what is the advantage of having
>a Sphere? Militarily, does it make a good shield? Why use a Dyson
>Sphere at Zeta Cygni? Is it just something that's cool?

It's a Nifty Thing, and it also makes for very easy system defense. Its original purpose was to shelter the (massively expanded) Utopia Planitia Naval Shipyards complex during the build-up for the War of Corporate Occupation, a function it performed most adequately.

Out-of-story, it was a keen idea I didn't think through very well, and if I had UF4 to do over again, I wouldn't use it. It's given me far too many headaches since.

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Star Ranger4
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3. "RE: New Avalon"
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   ::Snarf:: Any place that has the whole output of a sun to use wouldnt have any problem coming up with a solution to night and day, not to mention seasons. Its just a matter of proper applications.

The only thing that really caught me off guard was the refferences to sunrise and set, since up until this time I had assumed that new Avalon was built on the inner 'skin' of the ZC sphere itself.

I didn't realize that Gryph was still officially the head of Government there, though. However, like the giant 'thinker' statue, it only stands to reason. Any sufficiently large civillian population center MUST have its own governing forces. About the only reason I can figure that Gryph's got the job is that Zoner Ducked it and Gryph hasn';t found anyone to pawn the job off on yet.

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Gryphonadmin
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4. "RE: New Avalon"
In response to message #3
 
   >About the only reason I
>can figure that Gryph's got the job is that Zoner Ducked it and Gryph
>hasn';t found anyone to pawn the job off on yet.

Au contraire! Gryphon built Avalon (well, not with his own two hands, but) during the period when Zoner was still off being an asshole in the wastelands. It's his pride and joy, and it more or less runs itself anyhow, what with the streamlined civic structure and the advanced data systems. Besides, do you think anybody would ever want a Chaoswalker to run a city? Not only would the trains not run on time, all the ice cream trucks would be required by law to play "Helter Skelter". :)

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5. "RE: New Avalon"
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   >Besides, do you think anybody would ever
>want a Chaoswalker to run a city? Not only would the trains not run
>on time, all the ice cream trucks would be required by law to play
>"Helter Skelter". :)

Hey, it could be 'The Chord From Hell' over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over.....

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Star Ranger4
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6. "RE: New Avalon"
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   Heh. Of course, we don't actually KNOW he's Eris' avatar and a chaos walker cause the SOS Muse won't let anyone else near you so you guys can finish twilight 7.

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