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"Entirely unexpected commission."
 
   A week or so ago, a friend of mine asked me to design him a magic circle. He knows that I'm competent at that kind of thing. I have to say that although I've been touting for business a la Harry Dresden, this was not something I expected at all.

You see, he wants it so he can enter a LARP Ritual Competition. And he wants something that looks pretty spectacular. So that's what I've been working on. Once I'd actually got the specifications from him, I was all too happy to help!

His specifications were thus:

1) No recognisable religious elements.
2) Able to be made out of rope.
3) Easy to lay out.
4) Not, and this is the important bit, actually going to summon anything at all.

The fact that item 4 on that list is actually something that could get him disqualified from the ritual is bemusing to me; And so, I settled down to examine my books and then come up with something workable. I eventually settled on combining the clean lines of a Goetic Circle of Conjuration with the frankly lunatic conventions of Scandinavian Volcanic magic.

And then we come to the kicker: he's actually planning on making said circle, when he enters the competition, out of guncotton. And then, while standing in the middle, he's going to light it.

I have had to revise my designs rather quickly, to include the following:

1) Sheets of and sigils made out of Flash Paper just for contrast and fun
2) Safety, in that it's NOT going to blow him into a tree
3) Minimum possibility that he will, actually, conjure Surtur
4) Complete avoidance, in fact, of ANY fire-related spirit seals in any way shape or form!

Once the finished design is ready, we shall see what happens.

From a safe distance.

"It's difficult keeping up with the cross-continuity, but I think Cosmouse just gave The Saturnian Scraphunter his Ultimate Pacifier to use against Galactapuss..."


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  Subject     Author     Message Date     ID  
  RE: Entirely unexpected commission. Gryphonadmin Jul-30-13 1
     RE: Entirely unexpected commission. Verbena Jul-30-13 2
         RE: Entirely unexpected commission. Apostate_Soul Jul-30-13 5
             RE: Entirely unexpected commission. Gryphonadmin Jul-30-13 14
             RE: Entirely unexpected commission. Proginoskes Oct-20-13 17
                 RE: Entirely unexpected commission. SneakyPete Oct-21-13 18
                     RE: Entirely unexpected commission. BobSchroeck Oct-21-13 19
                         RE: Entirely unexpected commission. Terminus Est Oct-22-13 20
  RE: Entirely unexpected commission. Mercutio Jul-30-13 3
     RE: Entirely unexpected commission. Gryphonadmin Jul-30-13 4
         RE: Entirely unexpected commission. cyberpagan Jul-30-13 8
             RE: Entirely unexpected commission. mdg1 Jul-30-13 13
                 RE: Entirely unexpected commission. cyberpagan Jul-30-13 15
                     RE: Entirely unexpected commission. Gryphonadmin Jul-30-13 16
     RE: Entirely unexpected commission. Apostate_Soul Jul-30-13 6
         RE: Entirely unexpected commission. laudre Jul-30-13 9
             RE: Entirely unexpected commission. Mercutio Jul-30-13 10
  RE: Entirely unexpected commission. The Traitor Jul-30-13 7
     RE: Entirely unexpected commission. Apostate_Soul Jul-30-13 11
         RE: Entirely unexpected commission. The Traitor Jul-30-13 12

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Gryphonadmin
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1. "RE: Entirely unexpected commission."
In response to message #0
 
   >4) Not, and this is the important bit, actually going to summon
>anything at all.

I should think this part of the specification would be... reasonably easy to achieve.

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2. "RE: Entirely unexpected commission."
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   I've known some people for whom it'd be a genuine consideration. Of course, these people don't even really look at -fake- books of that stripe, let alone what purports to be real ones, so it's not like they're serious about it.

I suspect that requirement is as much for self-protection as anything else.

As in, "No, officer, see, I -told- them to not make it real. Right there on the sheet. Whatever he burned down, I had nothing to do with it."
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this world created by the
hands of the gods
everything is false
everything is a LIE
the final days have come
now
let everything be destroyed

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Apostate_Soul
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5. "RE: Entirely unexpected commission."
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   The bit that still amazes me is that actually conjuring something disqualifies him from the competition...

"It's difficult keeping up with the cross-continuity, but I think Cosmouse just gave The Saturnian Scraphunter his Ultimate Pacifier to use against Galactapuss..."


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Gryphonadmin
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14. "RE: Entirely unexpected commission."
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   >The bit that still amazes me is that actually conjuring something
>disqualifies him from the competition...

Unless paramedics count, I'd say he's in the clear on that score.

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17. "RE: Entirely unexpected commission."
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   I think the restriction is entirely reasonable, myself. It's a LARP competition, after all. People wishing to publicly demonstrate genuine supernatural powers should make their own arrangements.


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SneakyPete
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18. "RE: Entirely unexpected commission."
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   The Society for Creative Anachronism, just to give one example, forbids any persona claiming any religious or supernatural "powers" whatsoever, including Catholic or Anglican priests, Asatru practitioners, and Pagans of all stripes from performing rituals of any type at an event.


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19. "RE: Entirely unexpected commission."
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   >The Society for Creative Anachronism, just to give one example,
>forbids any persona claiming any religious or supernatural "powers"
>whatsoever, including Catholic or Anglican priests, Asatru
>practitioners, and Pagans of all stripes from performing rituals of
>any type at an event.

And as for why, may I suggest this as a somewhat tongue-in-cheek explanation?

-- Bob
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My race is pacifist and does not believe in war. We kill only out of personal spite.


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Terminus Est
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20. "RE: Entirely unexpected commission."
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   If you are a reasonably straight young male and your first reaction upon raising a succubus is to run in terror, there is probably something wrong in your plumbing.

If on the other hand this is your second reaction, then well, by all means, make with the terrified fleeing.


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3. "RE: Entirely unexpected commission."
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   At the risk of being a complete killjoy here...

Unless you and/or your friend are actually trained in pyrotechnics, preferably with a state certification (and you might very well be, in which case, ignore everything I'm about to say) I would refuse to get involved with this. At all.

Especially the whole "while standing in the middle, he's going to light it" thing. That sounds like a really great way to light yourself on fire, especially if he's going to be in full costume at the time. Nitrocellulose isn't a joke or a fun party trick. It's legitimately dangerous and should be treated with respect.

-Merc
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4. "RE: Entirely unexpected commission."
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   "Let's look at another of the costumes you sell: Johnny Human Torch."

"Ah, now that's a very popular item there. Very popular."

"It's a bag of oily rags and a lighter."

"The kids love it!"

--G.
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8. "RE: Entirely unexpected commission."
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   I'm glad I wasn't drinking anything when I read that. I love me some python refs :D


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13. "RE: Entirely unexpected commission."
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   I believe that's actually a Saturday Night Live reference. Dan Ackroyd, if memory serves.

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15. "RE: Entirely unexpected commission."
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   Maybe, but I took it as a reference to Crunchy Frog. I may be wrong :)


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16. "RE: Entirely unexpected commission."
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   >Maybe, but I took it as a reference to Crunchy Frog. I may be wrong :)

No, I was indeed quoting (actually, as the transcript linked below reveals, paraphrasing from very old memory) a Saturday Night Live sketch, "Consumer Probe", featuring Jane Curtin as TV consumer advocate Joan Face and Dan Akyroyd as sleazy toy magnate Irwin Mainway. Mainway's company produces Halloween costumes such as Johnny Human Torch (described above), Invisible Pedestrian (basically a ninja costume; has a warning on the package specifying that it is NOT FOR BLIND KIDS), and Johnny Combat Action Costume (a working M-1 rifle, ammunition - as Mainway piously points out - not included). As you might imagine, Ms. Face is not too impressed.

The sketch dates to 1977, so may well have been inspired in part by "Crunchy Frog". (There were several Irwin Mainway sketches; another featured holiday toy ideas such as "Bag O' Glass", a plastic bag filled with shards of razor-sharp broken glass, which Mainway defends as a toy intended for creative children.)

I can't find the Halloween sketch online offhand, but here is a transcript.

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6. "RE: Entirely unexpected commission."
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   I take your point, and know that the man in question *does* have an explosives certification. (And is also possibly certifiable, but that's another matter entirely.) So I trust him to handle the nitrocellulose safely.

I just need to keep the actual mass and lines to a minimum, for my own peace of mind... although people have promised to video his escapades. That being said, blowing yourself up is the least of what can happen if I screw up the design... but I'd just as rather he didn't make himself into the express rocket to Valhalla because of my design.

"It's difficult keeping up with the cross-continuity, but I think Cosmouse just gave The Saturnian Scraphunter his Ultimate Pacifier to use against Galactapuss..."


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9. "RE: Entirely unexpected commission."
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   >I just need to keep the actual mass and lines to a minimum, for my own
>peace of mind... although people have promised to video his escapades.
>That being said, blowing yourself up is the least of what can happen
>if I screw up the design... but I'd just as rather he didn't make
>himself into the express rocket to Valhalla because of my design.

Well, no worries there, unless it counts as being slain battle (there's some evidence that this was not taken to be literal historically, let alone among modern-day heathens). If it's not such, then ... well, again, it's up for interpretation, but usually you'd go to the hall of your ancestors in Hel (which is not to be confused with the Christian Hell).

And that's only if he doesn't go to Sussrumnir instead. (Half of those slain in battle go to Valhalla, half to Sussrumnir.)

"Mathematics brought rigor to economics. Unfortunately, it also brought mortis."
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10. "RE: Entirely unexpected commission."
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>(there's some evidence that this was not taken to be literal
>historically, let alone among modern-day heathens).

Even among those parts of Scandinavian culture that did take it more seriously, there's a fair amount of evidence of gaming the system. Like, if you were a warrior who it looked like was gonna die in bed surrounded by his family, said family would arrange an honorable "battle" situation where you could hobble out and be cut down, thus assuring your place amongst the honored fallen.

-Merc
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7. "RE: Entirely unexpected commission."
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   There are times when the rest of us just have to stand back in amazement at human ingenuity. In the case of this man, quite a long way back, and preferably behind a tree.

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11. "RE: Entirely unexpected commission."
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   True, but I still want to see him take off. And also be there in case I need to take credit for summoning something entirely unanticipated.

"It's difficult keeping up with the cross-continuity, but I think Cosmouse just gave The Saturnian Scraphunter his Ultimate Pacifier to use against Galactapuss..."


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12. "RE: Entirely unexpected commission."
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   "WHO DARES DISTURB THE SLUMBER OF AKNAN-HETUUM, GRAVELORD OF THE SEVENTH REALM?"

"Er... me."

"HOW DID YOU FIND THE HIDDEN WAYS OF THE PRIESTS OF QIBETH, MORTAL? I THOUGHT THEM SLAIN WHEN YOUR RACE WAS YOUNG."

"I... guessed?"

"HM. INTRIGUING. WHY ARE YOUR LEG COVERINGS WET, MORTAL?"

"Er, um, well... oh dear..."

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