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"(STO) Pictures 3"
 
   The last one's approaching capacity and seems to be more of a gameplay discussion at this point anyway. Maybe I should just make an STO board. It's not like a) they cost extra or b) the City of Heroes one is going to get a lot of traffic nowadays.

Anyway, sometimes as a sort of meditative exercise, when I should be (for instance) writing 4000 words to the prompt "According to the readings in your textbooks and the lectures, why is Canada's history characterized as a story of survival?", I'll jump into an MMO character generator and just... float. Fiddle with things and see what happens.

This time what happened was a variation on my old "Invader Kyra" model representing a different "UFO fantasy" trope:

As a cadet at Starfleet Academy, Xaara built her career on appearing to take the whole business of learning to be a spacer from humans, Vulcans, and other such johnny-come-latelies very seriously, but inside she was laughing the whole time, because none of the Federation's "marquee" species know dick about space exploration when compared to the Reticulans. The little grey men and women of Reticula Prime have been tooling around pre-spaceflight species' backroads and byways for millennia, scoping things out and getting their kicks by scaring the lower extremity garments off the locals in deniable ways. Their version of the Prime Directive is, "Thou shalt not get thyself clearly photographed."

She will always suspect that Captain Masc Taggart of the USS Roswell knew all that, and was laughing with her, when he named her his first officer for the pre-graduation training cruise; but, alas, now she'll never know for sure. Regardless, keeping the Roswell would just have been too sad after all that, so she traded the old bucket in the first chance she got and went - ironically enough - with something a little more in line with her people's old flying-saucer ethos.

In hindsight, it might not have been Starfleet's best idea to let her name her new ship herself. Traumatic graduation aside, it appears she's still not taking the business entirely seriously.

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  RE: (STO) Pictures 3 Mercutio Feb-28-14 3
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TheOtherSean
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1. "RE: (STO) Pictures 3"
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   Amusing back story. For a gal with antenna, she's kinda hot - that clingy uniform with the short skirt sure helps. I'm not sure its the best for modesty in a crisis, though.

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2. "RE: (STO) Pictures 3"
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   >Amusing back story. For a gal with antenna, she's kinda hot - that
>clingy uniform with the short skirt sure helps. I'm not sure its the
>best for modesty in a crisis, though.

By Reticulan standards, she's appallingly overdressed. I almost feel like I should break with a principle and pay for the "Seven of Nine" costume just because the silver jumpsuit is exactly the kind of thing a Grey ought to be wearing. :)

(You can't tell in her bio pic, either, but she's quite short. Also, I'm 85% sure T'Vrell's skirt is actually skorts. Also, I like saying "skorts".)

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3. "RE: (STO) Pictures 3"
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>Anyway, sometimes as a sort of meditative exercise, when I should be
>(for instance) writing 4000 words to the prompt "According to the
>readings in your textbooks and the lectures, why is Canada's history
>characterized as a story of survival?"

Assuming that quote is verbatim, I very much like how that prompt is worded. Because my first instinct was "Wait, what? That's the historical consensus on Canadian history? Me and my six months spent researching Louis Riel are inclined to argue the point, sir!"

But it's very carefully worded such that you can't argue the point directly without doing it wrong. Clever on the part of the professor.

I would question the academic value of simply asking people to summarize and regurgitate the findings of actual scholars, but... well, undergrad course. I suppose that's to be expected.

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4. "RE: (STO) Pictures 3"
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   >>>It's why Swede's career has sort of dead-ended at level 22; I don't
>>>like the 20-29 science vessel options, but she can't go back to using
>>>the ship she had in her teens or everybody will get killed to death.
>>>It's kind of a downer, is all I'm saying.
>>
>>Is there a particular reason you want to stick with science vessels
>>only for her?
>
>...... she's a science officer?
>
>Is this a trick question?

Not at all. I ask because my own Fed captain is an Engineer, and has spent most of her career not flying cruisers. She's had a Steamrunner, a Saber, and a Defiant, as well as a Luna and her current ride, the Upgrade-Tier Nebula. In fact, I think the only cruiser she's ever flown regularly was the four-nacelled one, a Cheyanne class.

Running with ship and captain mismatched is a totally valid way to do it, is what I'm saying. There are really only two reasons to insist on lining them up; first, if you're so MUAHAHAHAHAAHA in love with science (or tac, or engineering) powers that you want to stack as many of them together as you possibly can, or second, if you've got some overriding roleplay reason to do so, which... It doesn't sound like you do.

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5. "RE: (STO) Pictures 3"
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   >her current ride, the Upgrade-Tier Nebula.

One of the really heartwarming things about the Star Trek universe is its depiction of the way people with profound visual handicaps can still lead fully involved and productive lives, even in such traditionally ableist fields of endeavor as the armed forces. :)

>or second, if you've got some
>overriding roleplay reason to do so, which... It doesn't sound like
>you do.

Well, kind of, I mean, Swede is a pretty hardcore Science Nerd. If there were actually some sort of distinction in the kinds of missions science vessels receive, as opposed to Starfleet's outright warships, that'd be one thing, but since there isn't, I suppose you have a point. (But then I guess cometary surveys and medical intervention missions that don't involve the Orions popping up and needing to be shot at a lot wouldn't really fly in an MMO setting.)

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6. "RE: (STO) Pictures 3"
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   LAST EDITED ON Feb-28-14 AT 01:12 PM (EST)
 
>>her current ride, the Upgrade-Tier Nebula.
>
>One of the really heartwarming things about the Star Trek
>universe is its depiction of the way people with profound visual
>handicaps can still lead fully involved and productive lives, even in
>such traditionally ableist fields of endeavor as the armed forces. :)

I thought you'd like that. And just think - I deliberately paid Zen to get it. ^_^

Would again, too. It's got all the graceful large-sea-mammal curves that almost redeem the Galaxy, in a layout that fixes the wonky proportion issues that ruin that ship. I've been thinking I may pick up the Upgrade-Model Akira for my next Fedside character, but that's gonna have to wait until my Klingon tactical is fully kitted out.

>>or second, if you've got some
>>overriding roleplay reason to do so, which... It doesn't sound like
>>you do.
>
>Well, kind of, I mean, Swede is a pretty hardcore
>Science Nerd. If there were actually some sort of distinction in the
>kinds of missions science vessels receive, as opposed to Starfleet's
>outright warships, that'd be one thing, but since there isn't,
>I suppose you have a point. (But then I guess cometary surveys and
>medical intervention missions that don't involve the Orions
>popping up and needing to be shot at a lot wouldn't really fly in an
>MMO setting.)

Well, I'd play them - anything to avoid a damned ground mission, if nothing else - but then they'd have a harder time sharing mission tech with the Klingons.

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7. "RE: (STO) Pictures 3"
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   LAST EDITED ON Feb-28-14 AT 03:00 PM (EST)
 
>Running with ship and captain mismatched is a totally valid way to do
>it, is what I'm saying.

Hell, I love doing it.

My Rommie in her sci-dest is the first one where I've had them line up on something I plan to fly as a main ship since I switched my Feddie main tactical captain from escorts to cruisers. My level-capped KDF captain, the one in the Kar'Fi carrier (carriers are classed as science vessels), is an engineer. I also have a lowbie Caitian engineer who flies science vessels (not carriers, straight-up Fed science vessels -- right now she's level 29, so she's flying one of the giant lollipops).

That said, my other lowbie is a Ferasan tactical officer that I fully intend to fly Birds of Prey all the way through to the level cap.

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36. "RE: (STO) Pictures 3"
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   >She's had a Steamrunner, a Saber, and a Defiant, as well as a Luna
>and her current ride, the Upgrade-Tier Nebula.

Also, I just noticed this.

STEAMRUNNER. WHERE.

--G.
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8. "RE: (STO) Pictures 3"
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   >While the contact isn't physically at space dock anymore, he can still
>be contacted. Temporal Ambassador, the mission in question, can be
>found at the end of the Klingon War arc in the mission window.

Haha, success. Thank you.

The USS Alfred Nobel:

All of Swede's ships have been named after Swedish scientists, apart from her original Miranda, the USS Ystad, which was named after a city in Sweden: USS Ã…ngstrom (Oberth-class), USS Lundmark (Nova-class, her favorite), and USS Berzelius (Olympic-class, not so much). Before acquiring the Alfred Nobel, she also briefly dabbled in cruisering with the USS Feynman (Excelsior-class); Richard P. Feynman was not Swedish, but he was awesome, and he was a New Yorker, so it's a decent name for an Excelsior-class ship.

Actually, I didn't try putting the ring on "Angstrom". That might be worth an attempt sometime, just to see how complete the in-game font is. :)

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9. "RE: (STO) Pictures 3"
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   >Actually, I didn't try putting the ring on "Angstrom". That might be
>worth an attempt sometime, just to see how complete the in-game font
>is. :)

There's also a Tier 5 variant of the Ambassador, if you don't find anything you like better at that level.

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11. "RE: (STO) Pictures 3"
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   >There's also a Tier 5 variant of the Ambassador, if you don't find
>anything you like better at that level.

Alas, that one appears to have been limited to the Special Event and is no longer available to the general rabble. At least that seems to be the consensus view on the interwebs. Otherwise Swede would be able to do the same trick Cosmonaut did with the Triumphant (Excelsior-class Advanced Heavy Cruiser at 3, Advanced Heavy Cruiser Retrofit of the same name at 5).

I tell you what, though, the science ships arguably have too much science? But the ol' Ambassador's got practically no science at all.

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10. "RE: (STO) Pictures 3"
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   I don't know what it is, but I absolutely love the Ambassador class. It's like that perfect blend of the utilitarian design of the 23rd century with the graceful curves of 24th century. Always disappointed me that the model never got the sort of love that ships like the Miranda and Excelsior did in the post-TNG era.

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12. "RE: (STO) Pictures 3"
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   LAST EDITED ON Mar-01-14 AT 12:34 PM (EST)
 
>I don't know what it is, but I absolutely love the Ambassador class.
>It's like that perfect blend of the utilitarian design of the 23rd
>century with the graceful curves of 24th century.

It's the engine hull and neck, mainly. They're a proper shape, not all squashed and weird like the Galaxy class's. Also, the main hull is closer to circular, which is the only proper shape. Looking at you, every single TNG-era design.

>Always disappointed
>me that the model never got the sort of love that ships like the
>Miranda and Excelsior did in the post-TNG era.

Admittedly, the only reason the 23rd-century Federation ships had such longevity was because TNG recycled old models for economy's sake, but it's a good thing they did, since they were the only good-looking models on the show. :)

I joke, but also not. I mean, all the best-looking ships on TNG were recycled movie models. Miranda-class, Excelsior-class, and Oberth-class Federation ships; Klingon birds-of-prey; I think the old D-7/k't'Inga model even turned up a few times, and that goes all the way back to Jefferies. And of course the Constellation-class model was pretty obviously kitbashed from Constitution and Miranda spares. (I have read that the Stargazer was supposed to be Constitution-class, and even described that way in an earlier episode it wasn't seen in, before someone at Paramount decided that it would confuse the Great Unwashed if the movie-era Enterprise model showed up dressed as somebody else.)

As against that there's the Galaxy class, the Nebula class, that godawful Romulan ship that looks like a Bauhaus desk lamp, the various Klingon ships that are basically D-7s that crashed into the "bling up your Toyota" aisle of a Pep Boys, the utterly woeful Intrepid class, that crackheaded Federation-secret-weapon thing from Voyager that's actually three starships in one... the only TNG-and-beyond-era new design I can think of that isn't a complete headslapper is the Defiant class, and even it manages not to be offensive to the eye in large part because it's just not very interesting.

(I used to like the Sovereign class more than I do now, admittedly. It's done the opposite of grow on me. I think at the time I was just so happy it wasn't the Galaxy class. The main hull is still the wrong shape, but at least it's not quite so obviously horrible when it's turned so the long axis runs fore-and-aft.)

I mean, when the ultra-badass aliens that are going to be a centerpiece of your still-fairly-new show's ongoing conflict show up and their amazingly powerful and scary-ass ship is a cube, and later on they suddenly bust out a flash of completely unexpected creativity to stun Starfleet's analyst and that radical and startling departure is a sphere? Your model shop is officially out of ideas, that's all I'm saying. :)

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13. "RE: (STO) Pictures 3"
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   Took some time this evening to grab some screenshots and make them forum friendly.

First, I give you Lt. Cmdr. R'Mukka:

She is standing on the bridge of her Bird of Prey, the I.K.S. D'Ag (here seen leaving Qo'noS orbit):

(This came out darker than I was expecting, probably due to Steam's JPG compression for screenshots.)

Next, Cmdr S'erro (during a visit to Starfleet Academy for reasons she can't even pretend to care about):

And her ship, the U.S.S. Wernicke:

(I happened to be reading a book on linguistics at the time I got the ship, and had just gotten to a bit about aphasia, so...)

Vice Admiral Dehara of the Romulan Republic, who is currently serving in a liaison capacity with the Federation contingent of the Dyson Joint Command:

She is on the bridge of her current command, the R.R.W. Ra'kholh, one of the ships built under the auspices of the Dyson Joint Command, using technology reverse-engineered from the Sphere. Behind her is a hologram of the ship; below, the ship itself:

("Ra'kholh" means "Avenger" in Diane Duane's Romulan language, and is one of the few words of that language I remember. That said, I didn't set it myself -- it was the randomly-generated name it had when I opened the crate. On seeing it, though, there was no way I wasn't keeping it. The ship is in "science" mode in this screenshot -- if you look just below and to the right of where the neck joins the main body, you can see what look like black struts connecting the upper and lower parts of the ship. Those are actually where the extra cannons are mounted; when the ship goes into "destroyer" mode, they rotate to point forward instead of rearward as they are now, and the nacelles extend fore and aft. If you look at the nacelles as they are now, you can see some of how the telescoping works.)

Lt. General Kaluma of the Klingon Defense Force:

We see her checking on the targs kept on the cavernous bridge of her personal flagship, the I.K.S. Nalbera (here, pictured in the midst of a joint operation at the Solanae Dyson Sphere, with its full complement of S'kul-class fighters in escort formation):

(When I say "cavernous," I mean it; I went with the "Kahless" bridge option for this one. The Kar'Fi Carrier already looks like it's powered by Klingon opera, so I just knew I needed something suitably operatic for her interior. I didn't know there'd be targs on the bridge until after I'd already switched to it, but it just made me love it all the more. Oh, and the name, as with the D'Ag above, came out of the random name generator; I have no idea what, if anything, they might mean.)

And, lastly, my "main," in MMO speak, Vice Admiral T'Laaru of Vulcan, pictured here with her flagship's executive officer, Commander Osaat (also of Vulcan), and her chief medical officer, Commander Conception "Connie" Grazyna Mancini. They're at the command center for the Dyson Joint Command's ground campaign, attending a meeting of high-ranking officers (in a remarkably secure location, especially considering its proximity to the front):

T'Laaru's flagship is the Odyssey-class U.S.S. Margrave (the Margrave-A, actually, though the letter that distinguishes her from her Sovereign-class predecessor of the same name is, as is customary, omitted in all but the most formal of situations), seen here returning from patrol in the Solanae Dyson Sphere, with her Aquarius-class daughter ship coming in to dock:

(I have the Breen space set currently equipped on her, but for this screenshot I had the visuals from it turned off. I omitted the hyphen from the ship's name as it's painted on in the texture map, because I discovered that putting a hyphen in there actually makes it look kind of cluttered... but only for the name, not for the registry number, curiously enough.)

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14. "RE: (STO) Pictures 3"
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   >(This came out darker than I was expecting, probably due to Steam's
>JPG compression for screenshots.)

I always have to fool with the gamma a little on my STO screenshots. I think the game may not use its own gamma setting when recording them.

Also, I have no joke, I just like saying

>powered by Klingon opera

>T'Laaru's flagship is the Odyssey-class U.S.S. Margrave
>(the Margrave-A, actually, though the letter that distinguishes
>her from her Sovereign-class predecessor of the same name

Oh, is that why people do that? I've seen ships with letters appended to their names before, and just assumed that those users were thinking of the registry suffixes of the various canonical Enterprises and Doing It Wrong.

I've had ships in my various characters' collections that have the same name as predecessors, but when I do that I delete the earlier one first, because the replacements are supposed to be the same ship. For instance, Retro Cooper got promoted to Lieutenant Commander earlier today and traded up from a TOS Connie to a movie-era one, game-mechanics-wise, but obviously what really happened was that the USS Navarone (NCC-93006) received the "2271 refit". :)

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15. "RE: (STO) Pictures 3"
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   LAST EDITED ON Mar-02-14 AT 09:33 AM (EST)
 
>I always have to fool with the gamma a little on my STO screenshots.
>I think the game may not use its own gamma setting when recording
>them.

Since I use Steam to launch STO, I use Steam's screenshot function, and it seems pretty consistent in the screenshots not coming off quite how I expect.

One minor nuisance re: Steam and screenshots: to take screenshots with Steam, you hit F12. This is the same key that, by default, toggles the "rearrange the UI" mode in STO. I had a few screenshots in my Steam folder which had an overlay full of semi-transparent green boxes because of this.

>>T'Laaru's flagship is the Odyssey-class U.S.S. Margrave
>>(the Margrave-A, actually, though the letter that distinguishes
>>her from her Sovereign-class predecessor of the same name
>
>Oh, is that why people do that? I've seen ships with letters appended
>to their names before, and just assumed that those users were thinking
>of the registry suffixes of the various canonical Enterprises
>and Doing It Wrong.

It's why I do it, personally, though the Margrave is the only ship I've done that with. "Margrave" came about because she was an Assault Cruiser, which includes the Sovereign-, Noble-, and Majestic-classes as cosmetic options (and the Imperial-class if you get the fleet variant), and I wanted something that followed that naming scheme. "Margrave" is a noble title that has a nice ring to it but is rarely used in fiction (to be fair, it was not a common title at all, having been constrained to specific officers, and then, later, families, within the Holy Roman Empire), and I liked it enough that I decided I'd keep it for T'Laaru's subsequent "main" ships.

>For
>instance, Retro Cooper got promoted to Lieutenant Commander earlier
>today and traded up from a TOS Connie to a movie-era one,
>game-mechanics-wise, but obviously what really happened was
>that the USS Navarone (NCC-93006) received the "2271 refit". :)

Yeah, I'd do something like that should the appropriate opportunity arise. If, for instance, I should obtain (either through purchase or a giveaway) the B'Rel Retrofit for R'Mukka, it'd have the same name as her ship from when she first started out. :)

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21. "RE: (STO) Pictures 3"
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   >"Margrave" is a
>noble title that has a nice ring to it but is rarely used in fiction
>(to be fair, it was not a common title at all, having been constrained
>to specific officers, and then, later, families, within the Holy Roman
>Empire)

Presumably from the German Markgraf, i.e., the person in charge of a Mark (militarized border region).

Also, the large and diligent section of the bureaucracy inside my head that is dedicated to the storage and retrieval of unuseful fictional facts has just reminded me that one of Melissa Steiner's titles in the old MechWarrior 3025 Successor State sourcebooks was Landgrave of Bremen. (I'm not sure if that was meant as an archaic reference to the city in Germany, or if there's a planet called Bremen in the Lyran Commonwealth somewhere.)

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22. "RE: (STO) Pictures 3"
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   >>"Margrave" is a
>>noble title that has a nice ring to it but is rarely used in fiction
>>(to be fair, it was not a common title at all, having been constrained
>>to specific officers, and then, later, families, within the Holy Roman
>>Empire)
>
>Presumably from the German Markgraf, i.e., the person in charge
>of a Mark (militarized border region).
>
>Also, the large and diligent section of the bureaucracy inside my head
>that is dedicated to the storage and retrieval of unuseful fictional
>facts has just reminded me that one of Melissa Steiner's titles in the
>old MechWarrior 3025 Successor State sourcebooks was Landgrave
>of Bremen. (I'm not sure if that was meant as an archaic reference to
>the city in Germany, or if there's a planet called Bremen in the Lyran
>Commonwealth somewhere.)

Bremen's the largest continent on Tharkad, the capital world of the Lyran Commonwealth.

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29. "RE: (STO) Pictures 3"
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   >Bremen's the largest continent on Tharkad, the capital world of the
>Lyran Commonwealth.

Ah, now, y'see, I probably knew that once too, and had managed to lose track of it.

(Poor Melissa. She needed an Aristocratic Woman in a Ridiculous Neo-Feudalist World rescue in such a big way. And she got one, in the MechWarrior campaign I was in back in high school! Maybe I should make her somebody's bridge officer in honor of that fond memory.)

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34. "RE: (STO) Pictures 3"
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   >(Poor Melissa. She needed an Aristocratic Woman in a Ridiculous
>Neo-Feudalist World rescue in such a big way. And she got one, in the
>MechWarrior campaign I was in back in high school! Maybe I
>should make her somebody's bridge officer in honor of that fond
>memory.)

Judging by some of the BattleTech fic I've read recently, you're not the only one who thinks Melissa deserved better than she got in canon... and decided to do something about it.

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23. "RE: (STO) Pictures 3"
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   >Presumably from the German Markgraf, i.e., the person in charge
>of a Mark (militarized border region).

That's correct. The title used outside of the Holy Roman Empire (and its successor entities, where "margrave" was an inherited title in the peerage rather than a station) for the noble whose fief was a march (the English-language term a militarized border region, and also the source of the term "marcher kingdom") was "marquis" or variants thereof. (The French term was the dominant one because French was the court language throughout much of Europe, of course.) Compare a count, whose fief was a county, which was of a similar scope to a march, but of lower prestige, because counties were typically interior regions and thus they didn't have the same border defense responsibilities. This also meant that, when that distinction was still in effect, a marquis outranked a count.

Which reminds me of another video-game thing: in Final Fantasy XII, the translators/VA directors chose the British pronunciation of marquis ("MARkwiss") rather than the French ("MARkee"). I've always used the French pronunciation myself, and find the British pronunciation rather grating, so when my wife was playing through the game, every time I heard someone say it (and it gets said a lot) I automatically responded with the French pronunciation.

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30. "RE: (STO) Pictures 3"
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   LAST EDITED ON Mar-03-14 AT 11:49 AM (EST)
 
>Which reminds me of another video-game thing: in Final Fantasy
>XII
, the translators/VA directors chose the British pronunciation
>of marquis ("MARkwiss") rather than the French ("MARkee"). I've
>always used the French pronunciation myself, and find the British
>pronunciation rather grating, so when my wife was playing through the
>game, every time I heard someone say it (and it gets said a
>lot) I automatically responded with the French pronunciation.

"Butter."

"Parkaaaaaay."

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16. "RE: (STO) Pictures 3"
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   >Also, I have no joke, I just like saying
>
>>powered by Klingon opera

Oh, this reminds me: one of my favorite things about the game is the flavor from some of the doff missions. For one, there's the outcome messages; the majority of them are just functional, it seems, but there's a fair number that the designers went out of their way to have fun with.

One of my favorites in that vein is, in fact, the KDF-side mission to perform a Klingon opera. The first time I tried it, I got a normal failure (i.e. not a disaster), and the failure message related how a number of the crew who'd attended had reported to sick bay to request amnesia-inducing medication.

Other times, it's just the outcome itself that provides the amusement factor. One of my fleetmates has an epic-quality Exocomp doff, and, every time he sends it on the "Drinks on the Town!" assignment that's available when you're in the Earth system local area (you know, Earth Spacedock, Starfleet Academy, or the orbit area), it gets into a bar fight. One wonders what an Exocomp consumes when on a night on the town, and why it seems to have trouble holding its liquor-equivalent.

Similarly, I once had a routine assignment of the diplomatic variety, acquired in Earth Spacedock no less (so one would presume that they would already be primed by the local full-time diplomatic corps present there), and yet it ended in disaster, with, the Chef doff killed and, IIRC, the Entertainer doff injured and in sick bay. I still wonder just what happened on that one.

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17. "RE: (STO) Pictures 3"
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   >Oh, this reminds me: one of my favorite things about the game is the
>flavor from some of the doff missions. For one, there's the outcome
>messages; the majority of them are just functional, it seems, but
>there's a fair number that the designers went out of their way to have
>fun with.

The duty officer system creeps me out very faintly. I mean, here you have these... they're not even characters, really, just names on a list... and yet in the days when I played "Cosmonaut" Buchanan regularly, I found myself getting pretty significantly invested in them, to the point where the first time one actually got killed, I was so dismayed I didn't touch the game for days. I've been leery of meddling with the duty officer minigame ever since.

>Other times, it's just the outcome itself that provides the amusement
>factor. One of my fleetmates has an epic-quality
>Exocomp doff, and, every time
>he sends it on the "Drinks on the Town!" assignment that's available
>when you're in the Earth system local area (you know, Earth Spacedock,
>Starfleet Academy, or the orbit area), it gets into a bar fight.

I usually try to set that one up so that it would make a good joke setup. "A Klingon, a Liberated Borg, and a Tellarite walk into a bar."

>One
>wonders what an Exocomp consumes when on a night on the town, and why
>it seems to have trouble holding its liquor-equivalent.

"This unit's mother? Let this unit TELL you about its mother."

>Similarly, I once had a routine
>assignment of the diplomatic variety, acquired in Earth Spacedock no
>less (so one would presume that they would already be primed by the
>local full-time diplomatic corps present there), and yet it ended in
>disaster, with, the Chef doff killed and, IIRC, the Entertainer doff
>injured and in sick bay. I still wonder just what happened on that
>one.

"Note to the galley staff, bananas Foster no longer to be served at diplomatic functions."

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38. "RE: (STO) Pictures 3"
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   >The duty officer system creeps me out very faintly. I mean, here you
>have these... they're not even characters, really, just names
>on a list... and yet in the days when I played "Cosmonaut" Buchanan
>regularly, I found myself getting pretty significantly invested in
>them, to the point where the first time one actually got killed, I was
>so dismayed I didn't touch the game for days. I've been leery of
>meddling with the duty officer minigame ever since.

My understanding is that while the white (and possibly green?) quality duty officers will basically all die in the line of duty eventually, the blue and purple quality ones are immortal. So there is literally a redshirt mechanic in play (and an unspoken encouragement to shell out realbux for DOFF packs).


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39. "RE: (STO) Pictures 3"
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   >So there is literally a
>redshirt mechanic in play (and an unspoken encouragement to shell out
>realbux for DOFF packs).

I have to wonder whether it's really that cynical, or if that mechanic is there for the converse reason (someone realizing that there'd be hell to pay if they let an asset players paid real money for get schletzed by the whim of the random number generator).

Then again, it's Perfect World, so it probably is that cynical.

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54. "RE: (STO) Pictures 3"
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   I can confirm that it's only common-white quality DOFFs (basically, the very first ones you get to start you off) that have a chance to perish. Green and above just get sent to sickbay.

Of course, since common duty officers are also what most Fleet Starbase (and Mine, Spire, etc etc) projects require, by the dozens(*), I like to joke about shoveling them into the furnace... o.O


(*) Easiest/cheapest way to get them in the required quantities, by the way, if anyone's wondering, is to stay away from the exchange and just get them from the Personnel Officer on base. A random white doff costs 500 fleet credits, one whose department you choose costs 750, and you get 300 of that back when you put them in the project. You can even funnel them from characters who have fleet credits (even cross-faction! Klingon doffs work fine for Fed projects, and vice versa) by mailing them to yourself. Just remember the air holes.


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18. "RE: (STO) Pictures 3"
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   >Other times, it's just the outcome itself that provides the amusement
>factor. One of my fleetmates has an epic-quality
>Exocomp doff, and, every time
>he sends it on the "Drinks on the Town!" assignment that's available
>when you're in the Earth system local area (you know, Earth Spacedock,
>Starfleet Academy, or the orbit area), it gets into a bar fight. One
>wonders what an Exocomp consumes when on a night on the town, and why
>it seems to have trouble holding its liquor-equivalent.

My circle of players still wants to know exactly what that collection of officers did to get in so much trouble on Vulcan.

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19. "RE: (STO) Pictures 3"
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   >My circle of players still wants to know exactly what that collection
>of officers did to get in so much trouble on Vulcan.

"Honestly, sir, I have no idea how our shore leave ended up like that. I just know I'm never touching Vulcan alcohol again."

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20. "RE: (STO) Pictures 3"
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This sort of occurrence is why on my Fed engineer captain (Kathryn St. Clair, aka Katy, I'll probably try to do a screenshot set soonish), "routine turbolift maintenance" is no longer performed.

Ever.

The Hamilton Beach wasn't just a quirky ship, it was outright murderous. After the fourth time an engineer was turned to paste during "routine" maintenance, I decided nope, those turbolifts could maintain themselves.

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26. "RE: (STO) Pictures 3"
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   >The Hamilton Beach wasn't just a quirky ship, it was outright
>murderous. After the fourth time an engineer was turned to paste
>during "routine" maintenance, I decided nope, those turbolifts could
>maintain themselves.

<ADAM SAVAGE>Well, there's your problem.</ADAM SAVAGE> With a name like that, the ship clearly thought it was a collection of kitchen appliances instead of a starcraft, and that the turbolift was the blender.

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32. "RE: (STO) Pictures 3"
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   After reading this, I find myself faced with the urge to download the game and make a ship named the Crystal Lake or the Elm Street.

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33. "RE: (STO) Pictures 3"
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   ><ADAM SAVAGE>Well, there's your problem.</ADAM SAVAGE> With a
>name like that, the ship clearly thought it was a collection of
>kitchen appliances instead of a starcraft, and that the turbolift was
>the blender.

Dammit, Bob! :D

All of Katy's ships are named after kitchen appliance makers. She's commanded the Hamilton Beach, the Conair, the Keurig, the Amana, and now she's in the Westinghouse.

And the Westinghouse did just kill a random crewmember the other day. Disaster struck while performing routine torpedo tube maintenance, and, well, let's just say that nobody cares any more if the inside of the tube is polished, ain't nobody getting in there to do the job, nope, no sir.

I... may have to rethink this entire schtick.

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35. "RE: (STO) Pictures 3"
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   LAST EDITED ON Mar-03-14 AT 03:39 PM (EST)
 
>And the Westinghouse did just kill a random crewmember the
>other day.

During the War of the Currents, Thomas Edison attempted to taint the public's perception of his rival, George Westinghouse, by wedging the verb "to westinghouse" into the American vernacular as shorthand for "to kill with electricity". It didn't work, and instead we ended up with the less blatantly partisan "to electrocute".*

Also, when I was a kid my grandparents had a refrigerator by Hotpoint and a kitchen stove by Frigidaire, which I considered slightly confounding at the time.

The range in my current kitchen is an obscure and presumably long-defunct brand called Caloric, which is pretty good, but I submit to you that the absolute pinnacle of the appliance company namer's art is that Italian bastion of retromoderne design and unfortunate cross-linguistic implications, Smeg.

Also, I find myself wondering if there's a line of desktop hot beverage appliances in the Star Trek universe called Mr. Raktajino.

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25. "RE: (STO) Pictures 3"
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   >My circle of players still wants to know exactly what that collection
>of officers did to get in so much trouble on Vulcan.

Hearing about all these injokes, I have to wonder if the devs tossed in a "Banned From Argo" reference somewhere, too...

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24. "RE: (STO) Pictures 3"
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   >Also, I have no joke, I just like saying
>>powered by Klingon opera

Seconded!

>I've seen ships with letters appended
>to their names before, and just assumed that those users were thinking
>of the registry suffixes of the various canonical Enterprises
>and Doing It Wrong.

That's what I was planning to do with Koth once I started getting good-enough ships to grace with the name "Vengeance" (i.e., starting with my first "earned" ship).

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27. "RE: (STO) Pictures 3"
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   >>I've seen ships with letters appended
>>to their names before, and just assumed that those users were thinking
>>of the registry suffixes of the various canonical Enterprises
>>and Doing It Wrong.
>
>That's what I was planning to do with Koth once I started getting
>good-enough ships to grace with the name "Vengeance" (i.e., starting
>with my first "earned" ship).

Vengeance II: Electric Boogaloo?

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28. "RE: (STO) Pictures 3"
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   LAST EDITED ON Mar-03-14 AT 11:10 AM (EST)
 
>>>I've seen ships with letters appended
>>>to their names before, and just assumed that those users were thinking
>>>of the registry suffixes of the various canonical Enterprises
>>>and Doing It Wrong.
>>
>>That's what I was planning to do with Koth once I started getting
>>good-enough ships to grace with the name "Vengeance" (i.e., starting
>>with my first "earned" ship).
>
>Vengeance II: Electric Boogaloo?

Followed, naturally, by Vengeance 3-D and Vengeance IV The Revenge: This Time It's Personal.

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31. "RE: (STO) Pictures 3"
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   >No one even likes to talk about Vengeance 5: Assignment
>Miami Beach, which is unfair since it contains some of Science
>Officer spoQ's best comedy work.

Especially since its "subtext" provided so much fuel for those spoQ/Koth slash ficcers that the entire writing team was summarily executed.

-- Bob
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55. "RE: (STO) Pictures 3"
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   When I needed a name for my first character's Galaxy (which I didn't expect to be using very long, in my rise through the ranks, and I was ultimately correct), I decided to honor the ship that was destroyed to make a point about how badass the Jem'Hadar were and how far they'd go.

That's why the Odyssey II was named what it was. Nothing to do with an old home video game console. Really.


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47. "RE: (STO) Pictures 3"
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   A couple of the above have been promoted to new commands; I might put up screenshots of those tomorrow.

In the meantime, today I was seized with some degree of inspiration, and the desire for something on the silly and fun side. So, I give to you, Lieutenant Momonga*, science officer who has had a hell of a graduation day**:

And her current command, the U.S.S. Tom Jones:

(The Miranda-class starter ship was the U.S.S. Manilow; it's my general plan to have every one of her ships named after a stupendously successful yet kitschy and vaguely embarrassing (to Earth humans) 20th-century singer. Not being from Earth or remotely familiar with Earth culture, she still doesn't understand why her XO seems to flinch at the name of the ship, and probably never will.)

As one can see, she is quite tiny -- I deliberately made her just about as short as the custom alien thing designer would let me. I aimed for her to also have proportions that kind of suggest her size even without cues to indicate it (I made a point of taking the shot on Earth Spacedock with people nearby to show scale, but she still looks short without it). I also aimed for her to be very cute, in the same way as the animal that inspired her name, and she is quite thoroughly sick of humans telling her how cute she is.

One amusing bit of synchronicity re: that last bit: I picked up the Enterprise-era pack, both to get at the NX-class replica ship, and to get the additional costume bits it comes with (that show had many, many deep flaws, but the uniform and ship design were not among them, IMO); the belt she's wearing is from the mirror-universe costumes in that bundle. I added it because the combination of the TOS command tunic and that skirt needed a little something extra, and it fit quite nicely, especially once I colored it to match. In the tailor window, as in the screenshot above, the angle of her arm kept me from seeing the dagger strapped to her hip... but when I saw it as she was running around, I loved it, because it's perfectly in keeping with her general temperament at this point.

"Mathematics brought rigor to economics. Unfortunately, it also brought mortis."
- Kenneth Boulding

* "Momonga," already an almost painfully-cute sounding word, is the Japanese word for their native dwarf flying squirrel species that looks like this. Whenever I need a dose of cute that a kitten can't quite reach, I run a Google image search for "momonga" and that pretty much settles it.

** This is my first time through the new Federation tutorial sequence; one of the reasons I wanted to start a new Fed character was to see it after hearing about the revamp. And, damn, the PC gets put through the wringer in a big way. No wonder Starfleet keeps dedicated therapists on ship staff.


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48. "RE: (STO) Pictures 3"
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   >(The Miranda-class starter ship was the U.S.S. Manilow;
>it's my general plan to have every one of her ships named after a
>stupendously successful yet kitschy and vaguely embarrassing (to Earth
>humans) 20th-century singer. Not being from Earth or remotely familiar
>with Earth culture, she still doesn't understand why her XO seems to
>flinch at the name of the ship, and probably never will.)

Tell me you are already saving "USS Engelbert Humperdinck" for later.

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49. "RE: (STO) Pictures 3"
In response to message #48
 
   >Tell me you are already saving "USS Engelbert
>Humperdinck
" for later.

Well, I am now. (Though, depending on what the character limit is for ship names, I might have to settle for the USS Humperdinck.)

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50. "RE: (STO) Pictures 3"
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   >>Tell me you are already saving "USS Engelbert
>>Humperdinck
" for later.
>
>Well, I am now. (Though, depending on what the character limit is for
>ship names, I might have to settle for the USS Humperdinck.)
>

If you do, the Science Officer/XO must be named Rugen....

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51. "RE: (STO) Pictures 3"
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   >Well, I am now. (Though, depending on what the character limit is for
>ship names, I might have to settle for the USS Humperdinck.)

I just found out that Humperdinck was on Eurovision in 2012. That's all the more reason to keep that name on the short list. :)

Meanwhile, thanks to the XP bonus weekend, Momonga's very next mission got her promoted to Lieutenant Commander, so she is now commanding the U.S.S. Streisand.

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52. "RE: (STO) Pictures 3"
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   I'm trying to figure out how you would do the U.S.S. Milli Vanilli, but I can only think of matching runabouts.

Ebony the Black Dragon

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53. "RE: (STO) Pictures 3"
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   >Well, I am now. (Though, depending on what the character limit is for
>ship names, I might have to settle for the USS Humperdinck.)

"She can track a warbird in a cloudy nebula, she can find you."

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37. "RE: (STO) Pictures 3"
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   OK, so I logged on to get some pictures.

Eeek, the UI is all changed (and I think some of the actual mechanics?).

Possibly I should try creating a new level 1 of some kind to relearn?

Anyway; this is my "main", Ket, who ran away from a family firm to become a Scientist (on the bridge of the USS Chandrasekhar):

And some of her bridge crew:

(Goet, Tarah, Islee, K'nkek)
Tarah and Islee have been with Ket since her first command; nowadays Tarah is her head of Security, and Islee more of a special weaponry officer than a scientist.

She usually captains the USS Warshawski; which she steadfastly claims she found under an asteroid belt. Still, the Tholians aren't making any kind of diplomatic protestations about it...

My other Fed is Erisa, a Benzite. She's allergic to the usual respiratory solution so still uses a chest-mounted respirator.

She flies a ship I'm always slightly surprised doesn't fall apart thanks to the hole in the middle.

And finally Alisha Da'vI' Mhon, a Joined Trill with... Anger Management Issues, who got pissed off at the Federation's attitude and went to join the KDF, who she felt were at least honest about what they felt. The Mhon part of her occasionally wonder if it made a mistake joining with Alisha...

Given that I think there are now KDF 1-20 quests? it might be nice to reroll Alisha back to level 1 (I've barely started with her); but then I'd lose my Worf-sash, and it would probably be impossible to get her to look exactly the same; so maybe I should make a different KDF alt to try 1-20.


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Malkarris
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40. "RE: (STO) Pictures 3"
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   One day, I will probably have to put up some pictures of my characters in STO. Except I should probably give them all equal billing, and since there are currently 24 of them, that could take a while.

Yes I said 24, yes that is a lot, and yes, that is part of the reason why about the only thing I do in STO these days is run doff missions to get dilithium and EC. The other reason is to get expensive ships at low real life prices, like free, since I have decided that I have dumped far to much money on a game that is not much more than a theme park where you sometimes talk with the other people in line at the blow the enemy of the week up ride. And I like starships.

On the other hand, its given me some excuse the write some overdone fic about how all these people know each other. So far I have two lovers on opposite sides of the hot/cold/I really don't know war, two refugees from alternate dimensions, one anime loving Ferengi, an Andorian "independent spacer" who has a Blake's 7 theme going on, a hermaphroditic Romulan/Klingon hybrid (in my defense, the Shat went there first, but that's not much of a defense), one time lost, and borged Romulan commander of the old school, and the rest I haven't figured out yet.

Anyway, sorry, rambling, what I get for posting at 4 AM. I will add that anyone who ever thought about flying a galaxy dreadnaught at endgame, they have announced plans to release a revamp of the ship on the 6th. Personally I'm not sure the changes are all that good, but your mileage may very.

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I don't care, I just want you to die.
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41. "RE: (STO) Pictures 3"
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   I haven't put a ton of effort into characterizing my, er, STO characters yet, but I have a vague intention of doing so. I have a story plotted out - set a few years after the Dominion War ended - involving the "ferry flight" of a Miranda (the USS Nautilus, a veteran of the Dominion War that flew alongside the Defiant in a few episodes of DS9) that is being put out to pasture with a skeleton crew taking it on its last voyage as a Starfleet ship; it's being given to a new Federation member's "coast guard" for antipirate duty. The catch is that the pirates hear about this plan and try to intercept and take the ship while it has said skeleton crew aboard. The Nautilus's captain is a Lieutenant Commander who tasted action during the Dominion War and thought this trip was going to be boring; the science officer he works with to retake the ship is the half-Romulan daughter of a Starfleet Naval Intelligence agent and the Tal Shiar spy who loved him. Together, they fight pirates! It's one-half Die Hard, one-half Aubrey/Maturin. They triumph against first pirates, then the Starfleet bureaucracy during the inevitable board of inquiry. I think it'll be fun. If I ever get around to writing it.


...But what I really started posting this for was to mention my new Klingon tactical officer, Captain Kaiden (in honor of the Klingon commander in How Much For Just The Planet?) and most especially his ship, the IKS Kahless Shoe Source.


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42. "RE: (STO) Pictures 3"
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   >...But what I really started posting this for was to mention my new
>Klingon tactical officer, Captain Kaiden (in honor of the Klingon
>commander in How Much For Just The Planet?) and most especially his
>ship, the IKS Kahless Shoe Source.

That... actually burns a little. Like getting lemon juice in your eye.

I still don't think it tops the IKS Baranga!, though, even if the game won't let me put on the exclamation point it really requires. :)

(Also, my Romulan engineer's starter ship, ye olde Warbirde, was called the Ulciscens, which is Latin for Avenger - seemed appropriate given the way the tutorial storyline goes - but I like to think, based on where she got the ship, that it's also some obscure Romulan dialect for Are You Sure This Thing Will Work?)

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43. "RE: (STO) Pictures 3"
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   LAST EDITED ON Mar-06-14 AT 07:09 AM (EST)
 
BTW, this is from the last thread, but there's nothing really hard about endgame gearing, or gearing at any level really: if it's fast and can fit dual heavy cannons put those and a torp in front and turrets in back. If it can't fit DHCs and turns slow, fit beam arrays and a torp in front. Stick a fork in her, she's done.

The current 'optimal' set to fit on your ship is the Borg impulse engine and deflector and Dyson rep shield, but you can do ok with any Mk XII rep set provided you set up your bridge officers intelligently.

As for the best torpedo, take your pick. It's my opinion that the gravimetric photon torp (also from Dyson rep) is quite nice thanks to it's propensity to spawn lots of mini grav wells everywhere, especially with torp spread 3, and also retaining photon torps' high rate of fire.

Here's the simple part for setting up your bridge crew skills for endgame: unless you're a scidude, you want to run an Aux2Batt setup in combination with 3 Technician duty officers. Why? Simple. Techs have a chance to reduce the cooldown of all of your skills, though they can't go below the cap. This is extremely useful, since it means you only need one copy of Emergency Power to Weapons/Shields and can then fill your slots with other useful things (I consider tactical team and hazard emitters to both be must-haves personally). Aux2batt itself is also a nice buff and if you can keep it chained properly you'll have your weapons, engines, and shield power at 125 most of the time.

Note that an Aux2Batt setup will require two copies of the skill, UNLESS you have three purple technicians. You can either buy them off the exchange (expensive) or run a lot of duty officer missions in the B'Tran Nebula (off of Gamma Orionis; I believe you unlock the ability to go there either near or att level 50). Once you finish the colonization chain in that nebula, the recurring doff reward mission will give you a purple technician on a crit success.

Also the following bridge officer skills are crap and should not be slotted:

-Boarding Party (Viral Matrix is strictly better and can't be shot down, if you want to annoy people in PVP or debuff the giant Borg jerkships)
-Aceton Beam (why use this when you could use Directed Energy Modulation instead, especially since DEM doffs are so good?)
-Jam Sensors (jamming NPCs is pointless and jamming players is only annoying)
-Mask Energy Signature (again hiding from NPCs is pointless; you're better off just killing them, and this is no good against players. If you want to hide, fly something with a cloak!)
-Photonic Officer (snore. Aux2Batt setup does everything this does better)
-Scramble Sensors (see Jam Sensors)
-Tyken's Rift (crap in both PVE and PVP, enemies just move away from it)
-Subsystem beam targeting attacks (useful in PVP, pointless in PVE)
-Mine skills (mines suck, ergo the mine skills also suck)

Anything else has at least situational useage, though you probably arn't going to be bothering with Emergency Power to Engines/Dampers outside of PVP.

Essential skills:
-Emergency Power to Shields: (Heals your shields, makes them regen faster. Never not have this running.)
-Emergency Power to Weapons (Keeps your weapons doing max damage. Also never not have this running).
-Tactical Team (Autobalances your shields and makes you deal more damage. Also removes annoying Borg boarding parties!)
-Hazard Emitters (removes a lot of annoying effects and gives you a modest hull heal on top of that)

Hazard Emitters is slightly less important if you don't fight Borg a lot; the main reason to use it is to get rid of the plasma burn DoT their torpedoes put on you.

As a final note, if you need access to a fleet starbase for fleet gear, join the channel NoP Public Service for an invite to the Fed/Klank base; Starfleet Dental, Shutup Wesley, and Nerds of Prey all have maxed out starbases and can provide appropriate invites. You'll need to have your own fleet credits, of course. :)


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44. "RE: (STO) Pictures 3"
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   I've already posted my handle in the STO thread over on SA for an invite ;)

I'm following most of this advice, though I haven't started delving into the mysteries of Aux2Batt yet. I'm doing STO on the cheap; I already maintain five EVE accounts (that I barely log into, except when it's mechanically necessary, but then it's very necessary); I don't want to spend more on MMOs.


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45. "RE: (STO) Pictures 3"
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   >-Boarding Party (Viral Matrix is strictly better and can't be shot
>down, if you want to annoy people in PVP or debuff the giant Borg
>jerkships)

I use it to send Klingon raiding parties onto Borg ships, because Klingons.

>-Tyken's Rift (crap in both PVE and PVP, enemies just move away from
>it)

My Romulan would beg to differ. Her many kills would wish you were right.

>-Mine skills (mines suck, ergo the mine skills also suck)

Yeahbuhwha?

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46. "RE: (STO) Pictures 3"
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   >BTW, this is from the last thread, but there's nothing really hard
>about endgame gearing, or gearing at any level really

The irony here is that I made this thread because that one was turning into gameplay discussion.

You guys wanna talk You're Doing It Wrong, that's fine, but go and make a separate thread for it, yeah? And label it clearly so it's easier for me to avoid. :)

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