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"CSI 107: Forward Momentum"
 
   [114] Of these four drugs, Velocity-9 originally comes from DC Comics, Superadine is featured heavily in the City of Heroes online game, and I made up the other two (though Miraculon's function is obvious to anyone who's ever played, well, any game with instant-action medkits).

[126] The lab's forensic supercollider serves essentially the same function as a real-life mass spectrometer - determining the composition of stuff that's put in it - only it does so with Atom-Smashing Future Science! technology.

[203] Amusingly, when I wrote this scene, I hadn't seen the actual CSI episode in which the chem lab explodes.

[263] Both klaster and transpex are transparent materials used when builders need something tougher than glass. Of the two, klaster is harder - it can actually be used as armor - but transpex is more thermally efficient, so is more often used for exterior windows.

[329] This often-quoted maxim has been attributed to any number of 18th- and 19th-century political philosophers, but the sentiment behind it seems to trace back to the Irish lawyer John Philpot Curran, who said, "The condition upon which God hath given liberty to man is eternal vigilance; which condition if he break, servitude is at once the consequence of his crime and the punishment of his guilt," in a speech in 1790. The more popular simplified phrasing has been attributed to everyone from Thomas Jefferson to Wendell Phillips (who did, indeed, use it that way in a speech, but it's unclear whether he was quoting someone else at the time).

[426] Grissom so rarely exerts any of his authority as lab director that Ecklie often forgets the man is, technically, his boss - and when he does remember, his contempt for Grissom's administrative abilities is such that he generally doesn't act like he is anyway.

[579] He probably was.

[589] And she comes to us from House, MD.

[612] For the record, Sara is not, in fact, allergic to Miraculon.

[703] You can tell Dr. Cameron only recently arrived from Earth; a native Zetan (or Salusian, or anyone from almost any of the major colonies) would have said "the 64-kilocredit question".

[724] ... Not that the Chief, nor anybody he would be likely to dispatch on such an errand, would particularly need a key.

[992] Attempting to describe the sensations of moving at super-speed in text was an interesting challenge, and one that I'd end up coming back to a few times in the course of this piece. I'm not sure how successful I was, but I'm reasonably satisfied with the outcome.

[995] 186,000 miles per second. It's not just a good idea - it's the law!

[1027] This revelation - that there's another fairly major city on the Avalon pseudocontinent - arose on the spur of the moment when I was working on this scene and amused me greatly. There are quite a few small towns outside New Avalon: We've seen one, Prisoner's Base, a few times, and there have been oblique references to the existence of others. Another big city, though, that's new.

It's called "Perth", by the way, in reference to an old USENET joke. In the old days of plaintext Internet news, Australians were infamous for putting little ASCII maps of their country in their .sig blocks, and these maps nearly always contained a helpful arrow pointing out the city of Perth, standing obscure and lonely in the lower left corner of the country, thusly:

               .-_|\
/ \
Perth ->*.--._/
v <- Tasmania

[1068] Sara's ruminations here, both on the perils of the night shift and the "logical" time of day, mirror my own dark musings at many an all-hands meeting in the days when I was a night-shift network ops monkey.

[1138] In the movie, Barry could be played by Ed Harris circa The Right Stuff.

[1142] Barry and Iris have always seemed, to me, to belong to a particular era, more so than many other comic-book characters. Wherever they are, it will always be about 1961.

[1290] "Uh... well... I'd say that would be between you... and him... wouldn't it?"

[1315] The late Herbert J. "Burt" Munro was a machinist from New Zealand who set the world land speed record for motorcycles with engines displacing less than 1,000 cubic centimeters, using a heavily modified Indian motorcycle, in 1967. His quest for speed was immortalized in the 2005 movie The World's Fastest Indian, which starred Anthony Hopkins as Burt Munro.

[1347] There was a time when Sara would have disputed, or just plain not understood, the distinction between Science with a capital S and science without one... but no longer.

[1385] Where many of the districts of central New Avalon are named after comic book creators (Claremont, Waidburgh, Puckett's Landing, etc.), the western and southwestern suburbs are mainly named after British motion picture studios (Elstree, Pinewood, Shepperton).

[1428] This sequence was intended to evoke the dropped-frame, oddly-tinted flashbacks often employed on CSI when the criminalists are envisioning what might have happened at a crime scene. I'm indebted to Darwyn Cooke for the specifics of the physical transformation Sara experiences - his description of the Flash's powers working in DC: The New Frontier is by far the clearest, most evocative take I've seen on what happens to speedsters at speed.

[1508] A chain of police/fire/EMT equipment shops headquartered in New Avalon. The best place to get those cool boots the tactical guys all wear, as well as bulk discounts on rubber gloves.

[1522] Thanks to a glitch in the overtime payment policy, Sara cleared nearly a quarter-million credits for her 77-hour shift back in "Locard's Exchange".

[1587] Actually they do, but Lindsey's calling from the spaceport in Mos Eisley, where all the video screens have been stolen by Jawas. And she doesn't particularly want her mother to know she's in Mos Eisley anyway. They're supposed to be in the marginally less dubious Anchorhead. On the other hand, she's with Tom Palmer and Boba Fett, so she's reasonably safe.

[1622] Relax, Catherine, she's just messing with you. Probably.

[1638] The answer, if you're curious, has nothing to do with Brass's postulated "flashlight fetish" - it's because messing with the light switches before the initial survey would constitute tampering with the crime scene.

[1679] Gryphon is too preoccupied with other matters to make the obvious and true remark, "Catherine talks too much."

[1713] Blasters cauterize the wounds they make, but imperfectly, thanks to the shockwave. That's one way you can tell whether an energy weapon injury was inflicted by a blaster or a laser. Blaster wounds bleed; laser wounds don't.

[1714] He's not upset about what we think he's upset about, as we'll later see. We were originally planning to open the next episode with this scene, but after hacking around how to end this ep I figured it would be more fun to a) bookend this episode with explosive, surprise events, and b) leave a giant, tv-drama-esque cliffhanger. The resultant response on the Forum was quite satisfying. I didn't realize it was going to spark a giant, multistory arc concerning the same events, but then we both started heavily rewatching CSI: Miami, and they're big, big fans of this kind of thing on that show, so the influence was probably inevitable. CC


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  RE: CSI 107: Forward Momentum Star Ranger4 Dec-16-07 1
     RE: CSI 107: Forward Momentum Gryphonadmin Dec-16-07 2
         RE: CSI 107: Forward Momentum Star Ranger4 Dec-16-07 5
  RE: CSI 107: Forward Momentum Polychrome Dec-16-07 3
  RE: CSI 107: Forward Momentum Meagen Dec-16-07 4
     RE: CSI 107: Forward Momentum Gryphonadmin Dec-16-07 6
     RE: CSI 107: Forward Momentum Matrix Dragon Dec-16-07 7
  RE: CSI 107: Forward Momentum Moonsword Apr-09-22 8
     RE: CSI 107: Forward Momentum Gryphonadmin Apr-09-22 9
         RE: CSI 107: Forward Momentum Moonsword Apr-09-22 10
             RE: CSI 107: Forward Momentum Gryphonadmin Apr-10-22 11
         RE: CSI 107: Forward Momentum Peter Eng Apr-10-22 12

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1. "RE: CSI 107: Forward Momentum"
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   > [1714] He's not upset about what we think
>he's upset about, as we'll later see.CC

Now I'm even MORE confused! I'd assumed that he was upset about getting shot with a weapon hot rodded enough it could punch through their standard issue body armor. Certainly, with what we know now vs when it first came out Nick is not worried about dying... so what's he upset about? If its something I missed, just whack me with the cluehammer and point me in the direction o doing more reading...


Of COURSE you wernt expecting it!
No One expects the FANNISH INQUISITION!
RCW# 86


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2. "RE: CSI 107: Forward Momentum"
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   >Certainly, with what we know now vs
>when it first came out Nick is not worried about dying... so what's
>he upset about?

        "I didn't want anyone to know."
[...]
"Wasn't hard to figure out," Robbins replied with an offhanded
shrug. "You work with -forensic scientists-, Nick. A man gets shot
point-blank in the chest with a .45-caliber BlasCap, and 15 hours later
he's eating lunch? There are only so many explanations for that."

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5. "RE: CSI 107: Forward Momentum"
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   Oh.

Gah....

Ok, where's my damn dunce hat???


Of COURSE you wernt expecting it!
No One expects the FANNISH INQUISITION!
RCW# 86


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3. "RE: CSI 107: Forward Momentum"
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   >[114] Of these four drugs, Velocity-9 originally comes from
>DC Comics, Superadine is featured heavily in the City of Heroes
>online game, and I made up the other two (though Miraculon's function
>is obvious to anyone who's ever played, well, any game with
>instant-action medkits).

Miraculon is not to be confused with Miraclo which is has rather different effects.

>
>[126] The lab's forensic supercollider serves essentially
>the same function as a real-life mass spectrometer - determining the
>composition of stuff that's put in it - only it does so with
>Atom-Smashing Future Science! technology.

Atom-Smashing Future Science! makes everything better!
"This pie needs something..."
"How about some Atom-Smashing Future Science!"
"Brilliant!"

>
>[703] You can tell Dr. Cameron only recently arrived from
>Earth; a native Zetan (or Salusian, or anyone from almost any of the
>major colonies) would have said "the 64-kilocredit question".

Although the probability that anyone younger than the Chief knows the origin of that idiom is slim.


>
>[992] Attempting to describe the sensations of moving at
>super-speed in text was an interesting challenge, and one that I'd end
>up coming back to a few times in the course of this piece. I'm not
>sure how successful I was, but I'm reasonably satisfied with the
>outcome.

It definitely seems pretty tricky, but I think you did a good job.

>
>[995] 186,000 miles per second. It's not just a good idea
>- it's the law!

Not if you're connected to the Speed Force.

>
>

               .-_|\ 
> / \
> Perth ->*.--._/
> v <- Tasmania

Man, I remember those.


Polychrome


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4. "RE: CSI 107: Forward Momentum"
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   >[1347] There was a time when Sara would have disputed, or
>just plain not understood, the distinction between Science with a
>capital S and science without one... but no longer.

Where exactly did she learn about it? Maybe Black Mesa? (that was a joke.)

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6. "RE: CSI 107: Forward Momentum"
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   >>[1347] There was a time when Sara would have disputed, or
>>just plain not understood, the distinction between Science with a
>>capital S and science without one... but no longer.
>
>Where exactly did she learn about it? Maybe Black Mesa? (that was a
>joke.)

Ha ha! Fat chance.

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7. "RE: CSI 107: Forward Momentum"
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   >>[1347] There was a time when Sara would have disputed, or
>>just plain not understood, the distinction between Science with a
>>capital S and science without one... but no longer.
>
>Where exactly did she learn about it? Maybe Black Mesa? (that was a
>joke.)

I always assumed that lesson was a standard effect of being exposed to Greg for any amount of time.

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8. "RE: CSI 107: Forward Momentum"
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   > On the other hand, she's with Tom Palmer and Boba Fett, so she's reasonably safe.

I've read this story several times over the years (and quite enjoyed it) but on a whim I decided to reread the trilogy today, glancing at the annotations. It finally occurred to me to ask: Was Lindsey out there on a school trip or something, or was she picking up spending money helping Boba and Tom on a job?

The former seems a lot more likely but considering what we see of her in DSM Metal Panic, Lindsey seems like she wouldn't object to doing something like that if Boba asked her to. Actually, she'd probably enjoy it.


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9. "RE: CSI 107: Forward Momentum"
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   >It finally occurred to me to ask: Was Lindsey out
>there on a school trip or something, or was she picking up spending
>money helping Boba and Tom on a job?

I can't remember offhand, but since those stories were written back when there was no reason to believe there wouldn't be the usual Valiant/Art of Noise summer tour in 2410, I assume the intent was that they were there as part of one of the stops on said tour (hence the part of the note about how they're supposed to be in Anchorhead, where there might be someplace the Art would play, as opposed to Mos Eisley, where there isn't).

>The former seems a lot more likely but considering what we see of her
>in DSM Metal Panic, Lindsey seems like she wouldn't object to doing
>something like that if Boba asked her to. Actually, she'd probably
>enjoy it.

Yeah, I would be completely unsurprised to learn that she's been the Technical Support on at least a few of Boba's gigs over the last couple of years. If she's talked to her mother about it at all, she would've had to sell it that way, anyway. "It'll be fine, Mom. I won't even be getting out of the van." :)

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10. "RE: CSI 107: Forward Momentum"
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   >>The former seems a lot more likely but considering what we see of her
>>in DSM Metal Panic, Lindsey seems like she wouldn't object to doing
>>something like that if Boba asked her to. Actually, she'd probably
>>enjoy it.
>
>Yeah, I would be completely unsurprised to learn that she's been the
>Technical Support on at least a few of Boba's gigs over the last
>couple of years. If she's talked to her mother about it at all, she
>would've had to sell it that way, anyway. "It'll be fine, Mom. I
>won't even be getting out of the van." :)

"Linds- Lindsey! What was that noise?!"
"Someone set off the anti-theft device, it always makes things flicker when the capacitors discharge. Guy's gonna be sleeping that one off for a while."

Blatantly stolen from that Black Hood found outside the In-n-Out after trying to... I dunno, key Gryphon's new Bentley? Pressing against it in a way whatever artificial non-intelligence is running the security system didn't like while swaggering in to storm the joint? I'm not exactly sure what happened there, although if they really were just trying to rob the place, maybe the mook in charge figured a little grand theft auto would be a nice cherry on top of the sundae.


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11. "RE: CSI 107: Forward Momentum"
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   >I'm not
>exactly sure what happened there, although if they really were just
>trying to rob the place, maybe the mook in charge figured a little
>grand theft auto would be a nice cherry on top of the sundae.

IIRC, the idea was that that particular guy was toward the back of the formation, and when he saw that the job was going bad, he decided he'd a) delta the fuck outta Dodge and b) grab himself a consolation prize while he was at it. Didn't really work out for him.

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12. "RE: CSI 107: Forward Momentum"
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   >"It'll be fine, Mom. I won't even be getting out of the van." :)
>

That's the sort of thing that results in re-inventing Bartowski's Observation.

("It's never safe in the car!" - Chuck Bartowski)

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