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"art, or something like it"
 
   The prompt for today's in-class activity in the digital art class I'm taking to round off my graphic design minor was, "Draw a line sketch, or if you can't draw find a black-and-white photo, and then do some digital painty things to it in Photoshop."

So that's what I did.

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  RE: art, or something like it Offsides Sep-29-15 1
     RE: art, or something like it Gryphonadmin Sep-29-15 2
  also: wait, what? Gryphonadmin Sep-29-15 3
     RE: also: wait, what? MoonEyes Sep-30-15 4
         RE: also: wait, what? Proginoskes Oct-02-15 6
     RE: also: wait, what? BobSchroeck Sep-30-15 5
     RE: also: wait, what? Star Ranger4 Oct-11-15 7
         RE: also: wait, what? Gryphonadmin Oct-11-15 8
             RE: also: wait, what? Star Ranger4 Oct-11-15 9
  Film at 11 Gryphonadmin Nov-08-15 10
     RE: Film at 11 Bakuryu_Hitsuri Nov-08-15 11
         RE: Film at 11 Gryphonadmin Nov-08-15 13
             RE: Film at 11 MoonEyes Jan-14-16 25
     RE: Film at 11 Verbena Nov-08-15 12
         RE: Film at 11 Gryphonadmin Nov-08-15 14
             RE: Film at 11 Verbena Nov-08-15 15
                 RE: Film at 11 MoonEyes Nov-11-15 16
                     RE: Film at 11 BobSchroeck Nov-13-15 19
                         RE: Film at 11 dbrandon Nov-13-15 20
                         RE: Film at 11 MoonEyes Nov-13-15 21
                             RE: Film at 11 Gryphonadmin Nov-13-15 22
                                 RE: Film at 11 MoonEyes Nov-15-15 24
                             RE: Film at 11 thorr_kan Nov-13-15 23
             RE: Film at 11 SneakyPete Nov-12-15 17
     RE: Film at 11 SneakyPete Nov-12-15 18

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1. "RE: art, or something like it"
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   Cool. Who is it?

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2. "RE: art, or something like it"
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   >Cool. Who is it?

Wikimedia, where I got the base photo, says it's Tenryƫ in 1936 (presumably at Kure Naval District, where she was based from 1934 to 1939).

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3. "also: wait, what?"
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   So, a little background for this next item. I took the online version of this class (ART 270, Digital Art) last year, but had to drop it midway through the semester for logistical reasons. Unlike the live version, which started with an introduction to the Photoshop pen tool, the online version's first unit was about photomontage, and I did a couple of projects for same before leaving the class. There was also a Photoshop exercise as part of the introductory 2D design class, ART 110, I had to take as one of the core prereqs for the graphic design minor.

The reason I mention this is because the first homework assignment in this version of ART 270 was, "Enter up to four pieces of digital artwork for an upcoming exhibition at an art gallery downstate."

(That's right. That was the first assignment.)

So I trawled through my files from previous classes and came up with the Photoshop piece from ART 110, two photomontages from the online version of 270, and a random pen tool scribble from the first class meeting of this version, and sent them along, assuming that the jury would look at them, think, Well, this jagoff clearly isn't taking this seriously, and bin them. What else could I do? I'm not actually an artist.

For the record, here are my four submissions:

"Vanity Projects"
Photomontage
Adobe Photoshop, 2014

This was the product of the first photomontage assignment, "Combine two photographs to make a statement about an issue." The issue, in this case, was basically me rolling my eyes at the way the University of Maine's breathlessly self-congratulatory press releases made last year's multi-jillion-dollar renovation of the athletic fieldhouse seem like it was only slightly less important, in the course of human affairs, than the dang moon landings.

"Secret Film"
Photomontage
Adobe Photoshop, 2014

The second photomontage was more complicated, and required at least three photos be combined for a similar effect. By this point I had realized that art is rooted almost entirely in fraud and means whatever the artist can claim it means with a straight face, so this is a protest piece about government secrecy. Or nuclear war. Or polar bear habitat loss. Or maybe it's just a combination of the first three pictures I found in my odd-sock pics folder plus a shot of a drive-in movie theater I dug up online to pull it, like the Dude's rug, together.

"Progression"
Abstract
Siemens Solid Edge ST5 and Adobe Photoshop, 2014

The assignment here was to use Photoshop to convey depth of field in a 2D illustration. I used Solid Edge to make the blocks so that the perspective would be right (because I'm rubbish at doing that by hand), then cooked the rest of it in Photoshop to have the appropriate textures and shading. Refreshingly, it's not even supposed to mean anything, so I didn't even have to claim it did. :)

"1960s Animation Studio Logo"
Abstract
Adobe Photoshop, 2015

No matter what I did in the "doodle with the pen tool" mission early in in-person ART 270, what resulted just made me think, "That looks like the logo for some 1960s animation studio." So I threw in some appropriate spot colors and called it a day.

Now here's the punch line:

One of these pieces, "Vanity Projects", was actually accepted for the exhibition.

So now I have to come up with a high-quality framed print of it and get it to the capital region by the end of next month.

I am more convinced than ever that art criticism, like wine snobbery, is just made up. :)

--G.
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4. "RE: also: wait, what?"
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   >I am more convinced than ever that art criticism, like wine snobbery,
>is just made up. :)

Well, art criticism is made up. Wine snobbery isn't so much made up as it's sef-congratulatingly poncy.

The pictures were interesting, particularly with the explanations, and the last one is actually something that I wouldn't mind having on my wall. Interesting shapes and a bit of color without actually, necessarily, meaning something.

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6. "RE: also: wait, what?"
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   Art criticism doesn't have to be made up, but the unfortunate fact is that the people who take it the most seriously are the ones who are most likely to Completely Fail To Get It, to fail to understand its purpose. The purpose of Art Criticism is to attempt to divine the artist's goal and assess how well the work achieves that goal, not to pass judgement on it based on some abstract Ideal Of High Art. "Secret Film" is actually commentary on the ridiculousness of requiring all art to make a statement, and the inability of modern art critics to appreciate beauty for its own sake, but I probably wouldn't have picked up on that without the hints from Gryphon, so it isn't that great. On the other hand, "Vanity Projects" stands a fairly good chance of conveying the message Gryph meant it to without help, and the two abstract works perform their function of "being pretty" perfectly well, so all three are pretty good.


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5. "RE: also: wait, what?"
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   >I am more convinced than ever that art criticism, like wine snobbery,
>is just made up. :)

Lo these many years ago, I took a drawing class in college. I'm not quite sure how I passed what amounted to an audition to prove I had talent, because I don't, but I finagled it somehow. Anyway, the instructor was very much an ART HAS MEANING AND IS SERIOUS BUSINESS kind of guy and I got tired of his over-intensity quickly enough. And what sealed things for me was the day I simply got tired of trying to Make Art, and just started mindlessly stamping brush prints of india ink on the paper on my easel, in diagonal lines.

He came over and praised it as the most inspired and artistic thing I'd done all semester.

I never took another art course again.

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7. "RE: also: wait, what?"
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   >Now here's the punch line:
>
>One of these pieces, "Vanity Projects", was actually accepted for the
>exhibition.
>
*Snerk* Somehow, I just saw that one coming. For our edification, which one? Personally, I hope it was the 'Animation Logo' one, of them it was my fav.


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8. "RE: also: wait, what?"
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   >>Now here's the punch line:
>>
>>One of these pieces, "Vanity Projects", was actually accepted for the
>>exhibition.
>>
>*Snerk* Somehow, I just saw that one coming. For our edification,
>which one? Personally, I hope it was the 'Animation Logo' one, of
>them it was my fav.

Ahem.

"One of these pieces, 'Vanity Projects', was actually accepted for the exhibition."

--G.
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9. "RE: also: wait, what?"
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   >>>Now here's the punch line:
>>>
>>>One of these pieces, "Vanity Projects", was actually accepted for the
>>>exhibition.
>>>
>>*Snerk* Somehow, I just saw that one coming. For our edification,
>>which one? Personally, I hope it was the 'Animation Logo' one, of
>>them it was my fav.
>
>Ahem.
>
>"One of these pieces,
>'Vanity >Projects>', was actually accepted for the exhibition."
>
*facepalm* Gah, sorry bout that. Dunno what I did with my brain, but clearly I wasn't using it at the moment.


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10. "Film at 11"
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   We've moved on to "time-based" work in ART 270, which is apparently Artist Code for video (I guess we're just lucky they aren't calling it "4D"). This week's assignment was to produce three short films after the fashion of the Lumière brothers, history's first filmmakers, who worked in 17-meter lengths and so made films that were all around 50 seconds long.

I... may have overdone them somewhat.

--G.
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11. "RE: Film at 11"
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   Experimental Film #3

I watched the entire 51 second video.

No idea why.

Nicely done.

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13. "RE: Film at 11"
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   >Experimental Film #3
>
>I watched the entire 51 second video.
>
>No idea why.

Presumably the same impulse that leads people to listen to John Cage's 4'33" all the way through.

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25. "RE: Film at 11"
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   >Presumably the same impulse that leads people to listen to John Cage's
>4'33" all the way through.

Read an interesting one today, and was reminded of this:

MUSIC GROUP SUED FOR SILENCE

The British group The Planets, who in their latest album begun with 60 seconds of silence, is now in danger of being sued. The ones attempting the law suit is the estate of the composer John Cage, who are accusing the group of plagiarism. Cage wrote the piece "4'33", which is essentially 273 seconds of silence. The groups spokesman is confident that it will come to nothing, however, as they think it would be notably difference to pick out which 60 seconds of the 273 that is supposed to have been copied.


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12. "RE: Film at 11"
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   Okay, freakiest thing that's happened to me lately? I watch the videos, amused, then CLOSE MY BROWSER, planning to switch back to the game I was playing.

And I hear the music still running in the background, barely. It's so soft I think it was just my memory until I hear YOU. WILL. DIE.

The music is still running as I'm typing this, with the words every now and then, too. I...don't actually see any programs running that could account for the audio, YouTube is long shut down.

Creepy as hell. =)

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14. "RE: Film at 11"
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   >Okay, freakiest thing that's happened to me lately? I watch the
>videos, amused, then CLOSE MY BROWSER, planning to switch back to the
>game I was playing.
>
>And I hear the music still running in the background, barely. It's so
>soft I think it was just my memory until I hear YOU. WILL. DIE.

Uh... yeah, I can't speak for the entire Incompetech catalog, but that is not a feature of either of the music tracks I used. Have your computer checked for demonic possession. I think both the current version of Norton 360 and the equivalent Kaspersky product can do that as part of the "Full Scan" option.

This does remind me of something vaguely similar that happened to me many years ago, though. When I was in high school, I had a Tandy 1000 TX computer. For those of you who came in late, this was an enhanced version of the original Tandy 1000 (an IBM PCjr clone that, unlike the PCjr, was actually successful, mainly because its ergonomics were about 1000 miles ahead of the PCjr's). At the time I had it, the TX was the top-of-the-line model, the best computer you could get at Radio Shack, and back then that was not the punch line of a joke. It had better graphics than the original PC, and - most important for this story - it had built-in sound. And by that I don't just mean a speaker that could go "beep" and/or "blat", like the PC's speaker or the one in, e.g., the Apple //e. The Tandy sound system wasn't exactly THX, but it was high-end for its time; only Amigas could challenge it without aftermarket intervention.

OK. So I had the TX set up on a table in the living room back then, because thanks to the unique way in which the BBCour household was funded,* we didn't have central heating and the living room, where the woodstove was, was the only room in the house that was actually warm in the winter. The events I'm about to recount happened in the summertime, but still, that's why the computer was where it was. Anyway, one afternoon I was sitting on the couch nearby, reading a book; I was the only one at home, the dog was asleep, and the house was quiet.

And I suddenly became aware that someone was speaking. Not loud enough to be intelligible, but that distinctive pattern of low murmury sounds you get when, for instance, someone is talking outside the house, or watching TV in an upstairs room. Except nobody was talking outside the house, and the TVs upstairs weren't on. When I got back downstairs from checking the latter, if I stood very still in the middle of the living room, I could still hear it.

Now thoroughly weirded out, I checked down in the basement; nothing going on down there. Back upstairs, I could still hear the sound. I started walking around the room trying to figure out where it was coming from... and eventually realized it was emanating from the computer.

The thing was, the computer was not turned on. This was in about 1989, long before always-on Internet came to homes (certainly long, long before it came to our home), and there was no reason to leave a computer running when you weren't using it. The Tandy was sitting there, completely powered off - in fact, we had it plugged into a power strip, and that was turned off, so the computer's power supply wasn't even live - and the muffled, indistinct sound of someone talking was emanating from the speaker anyway.

I sat at the table for a while, listening, trying to think what in the hell could possibly be going on. As I noted before, I couldn't tell what the voice in the speaker was saying, the volume was too low for that (and of course adjusting the computer's volume knob did nothing), but something about the cadence of it seemed familiar, and I couldn't figure out why...

... until it started saying something in what I recognized as the excited way the Red Sox radio commentator of the day made home run calls. It was the play-by-play of a baseball game. Shortly after that there was a pattern that, now that I had the context, was unmistakably the jingle for one of the radio baseball coverage's usual sponsors.

(This part wasn't quite as weird as it may seem - the local radio station in town carried Red Sox games in syndication on its AM program, and though I wasn't much of a baseball fan in those days, I occasionally listened to them because there was literally nothing else to do on some summer afternoons in Millinocket in the '80s if you didn't like what was on the FM station (mostly country music).)

At any rate, the house where I grew up is within a mile or so of both of the station's transmission towers - and evidently through some quirk of atmospherics or geometry or induction, the speaker assembly in my TX was sufficiently impinged upon by its signal for the program to be faintly audible sometimes. That was the first time I noticed it, but it happened several more times over the year or so before I moved the computer to a different part of the room.

At no time, however, did it play silent movie piano music and remind me of my mortality, though. That's obviously some... other... problem.

--G.
* Obviously by this I don't mean we were poor; we had a computer! But in some matters my father was the cheapest man in the world, and, for whatever reason, one of those matters was equipping the house with heating technology.
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15. "RE: Film at 11"
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   That's awesome! I didn't really know that could happen, but I suppose I'm not super surprised. =)

As for my own demonic possession problem, it has since stopped (which is why I'm logged in here and not taking a hammer to my speakers in abject fear) but I doubt I will ever find out why it happened.

Cue Twilight Zone theme. =)


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16. "RE: Film at 11"
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   >That's awesome! I didn't really know that could happen, but I suppose
>I'm not super surprised. =)

There is a story, dunno if it's true or not, none of the places that I know of that debunk urban legends, such as Snopes, have it even mentioned, per se, though there is a similar one that involves Lucille Ball.

Supposedly this guy arrived at the doctors sometime in the 50s-60s, convinced that he was either going insane or was possessed...though the difference between the two eludes me.
Anyways, he was hearing things, literally. A voice was talking to him. Indistinct enough that he couldn't hear WHAT it said, but it said it constantly, with irregular breaks here and there.

After a LOT of talking, and testing, and this and that and the other, the doctor, for some reason or another, leaned in really close to the guy, almost as if in a hug...and realized HE could hear it too.

Turn out that the guy had multiple dental repairs, in different metals. These metals, along with his saliva, and weird and wonderful coincidences, is supposed to have worked as a radio receiver. The sound then transmitted from his teeth to his jawbone to his ear, creating the very faint noise he heard.

Seems a bit far-fetched to me, but on the other hand, the weirdest and most bizarre stuff is the stuff that turns out to be true.

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19. "RE: Film at 11"
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   The claim was that his dental work (accidentally) functioned as a basic crystal radio, and he was picking up strong local AM signals. Not all that far-fetched, as a crystal receiver is so simple and so low-tech that a good functional one could arguably be made with 18th-century technology. (It's the transmitter that's a bit higher-tech.)

Sadly, as I recall, the story's been debunked. It sounds plausible but apparently doesn't work in real life.

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20. "RE: Film at 11"
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   IIRC Mythbusters did an episode on it, somewhat early on. They couldn't get it to work, although that's only suggestive, not conclusive.

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21. "RE: Film at 11"
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   >Sadly, as I recall, the story's been debunked. It sounds
>plausible but apparently doesn't work in real life.

Well, another variation, which does mention the supposedly original, appears in the Modesty Blaise story(book story, as opposed to comic story) The Impossible Virgin, which was published in 1971, so the previous must be a bit earlier than that. Doesn't mean it isn't bunk, of course, just a note on how OLD the story is. And might actually be the reason I remember it, which would then point FURTHER towards it being bunk, my memory being, AT BEST, a second-hand story.

The re-made variant in the story, incidentally, has a poor girl with STRONG religious feelings seducing and killing people left and right, because God told her that it's right and proper that she do so.
'God' turns out to be her utter bastard of an adopted 'father', who not only has a miniature receiver(real one), inserted into a fake tooth, but then makes little tapes of instructions(with modulated voice), which he then plays over a dedicated transmitter.

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22. "RE: Film at 11"
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   THIS IS JESUS, KENT. AND YOU'VE BEEN A VERY NAUGHTY BOY.

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24. "RE: Film at 11"
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   >THIS IS JESUS, KENT. AND YOU'VE BEEN A VERY NAUGHTY BOY.

Very similar to, if with notably less humor, yes. Of course, it does sort of even out in the end when one of 'Gods' other henchmen find the taperecorder, and makes ANOTHER message...one that ends with 'God' on the other side of the fun and games.

And then, shortly after that, Willie Garvin finds the tooth/transmitter(hears, in fact), and it is removed.

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23. "RE: Film at 11"
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   There's an old Analog story (80s) about a boy with braces having the radio reception problem. He gets to make out with the cute girl in class because she's having the same problem, receiving the country music station, and the Achy Break Ear Worm is coming on.

Experimentation had determined their braces would ground each other out. Yay, Science?


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17. "RE: Film at 11"
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   Had something similar happen to me, back at the height of the CB Radio craze. Jolted out of a sound sleep about midnight by someone's voice coming out of *every* speaker in my house. I was home alone, and seriously freaked out. Turns out one of the neighbors was testing a seriously illegal power mod on his home base unit. (50 watts on a CB is a no-no, kids; I was 12 and I knew the law better than that. Besides, his base hum was interfering with *my* base unit even when he wasn't transmitting.)

There may or may not have been an anonymous complaint called in to the local FCC office after the third night of this :) , but there wasn't a fourth.


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18. "RE: Film at 11"
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   Pretentious names abide in art education. One of my favorite artists, Jennie Breeden, has a degree in "Sequential Art".

That's right, she's got a degree in cartooning.


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