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Kitsune9tl
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Aug-10-01, 04:35 PM (EDT) |
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"ED - 209/A1: Knight Defender"
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LAST EDITED ON Aug-10-01 AT 05:29 PM (EDT) Only two were being made today, and the second would cause no little bit of controversy: it would mark the first time in Salusia's long history that an automaton was sworn in as a Knight-Defender. --- from Right of Passage This brings in a couple of questions; What's ED's status under Touring III? Isn't a Knight-Defender supposed to train and maintain a cadre of "Squires," and small army of "Men at Arms" for use in defense of the throne? What is ED's Coat of Arms? -- Wha-CHUNK. The sound of the safety interlocks in ED-209/A1's autocannons snapping out of battery instantly commanded everyone's attention. "Thank you," said Ed, and he opened fire.
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trigger
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Aug-10-01, 05:43 PM (EDT) |
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2. "RE: ED - 209/A1: Knight Defender"
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My first thought is "Who would cross Asrial?" After all she is queen, she just put down a rebellion, and ED saved her life. I'd say the whole Turing III question is null and void. Would you want to piss her off by asking if he's passed a test? As for the rest of it, I don't think Gyrph, Zoner, and Redneck have Salusian squads at their beck and call in their offical positions of "Knight Defender" I suspect the rules for them depend on the Queen. And given the reason why she became Queen, why would she want the Knight Defenders to have small private armies? Pre-Tokagawa Japan demonstrates what a bad, bad idea it is. I think Tokagawa Ieasu and Queen Asrial both had excellent reasons to get rid of every noble's private army, don't you? t. Trigger Argee trigger_argee@hotmail.com Manon, Orado, etc. Denton, never leave home without it.
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Gryphon
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Aug-10-01, 08:47 PM (EDT) |
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4. "RE: ED - 209/A1: Knight Defender"
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>What's ED's status under Touring III? Given that he was made a subject of the Crown by royal fiat, kind of moot. >Isn't a Knight-Defender supposed to train and maintain >a cadre of "Squires," and small army of "Men at Arms" >for use in defense of the throne? Apparently not. >What is ED's Coat of Arms? I could make a smartass comment about "argent battledroid rampant to the sinister, against sable", but I think instead I'll just look at you funny for asking such a weird question. --G. -><- Benjamin D. Hutchins, Co-Founder, Editor in Chief, Netadmin Eyrie Productions, Unlimited http://www.eyrie-productions.com/
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Croaker
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Aug-14-01, 12:36 PM (EDT) |
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15. "RE: ED - 209/A1: Knight Defender"
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>>What is ED's Coat of Arms? > >I could make a smartass comment about "argent battledroid rampant to >the sinister, against sable", but I think instead I'll just look at >you funny for asking such a weird question. But, Ben, you did make a smartass comment about "argent battledroid"etc. ;) So don't be surprised that we chuckle. ;) > >--G. >-><- >Benjamin D. Hutchins, Co-Founder, Editor in Chief, Netadmin >Eyrie Productions, Unlimited http://www.eyrie-productions.com/ -- "Eat hot blazing photonic pulse fire, you alien invading human-abducting saucer-alien bastards!" -- Captain of EAS Bellerophon, firing on a Vree cruiser.
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Mephron
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Aug-10-01, 09:07 PM (EDT) |
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5. "RE: ED - 209/A1: Knight Defender"
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>What is ED's Coat of Arms? Sable, an estoille gules. A black field with a red star on it. Black, for the ground of Salusia, some of which made the metals that formed ED. The red star to represent the reason that Ed GOT the Knight-Defendership: the rendering down to a splatter of Alois Greub. Just an idea from a herald. -- Geoff Depew - Mephron Haberdasher to Androids, Malakite of Lightning and Angel of Tech Support Professionals (They won't give me LARTs, they say that's restricted to Michael.) |
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Pangaro
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Aug-10-01, 11:42 PM (EDT) |
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6. "RE: ED - 209/A1: Knight Defender"
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>>What is ED's Coat of Arms? > >Sable, an estoille gules. > >A black field with a red star on it. Black, for the ground of >Salusia, some of which made the metals that formed ED. The red star >to represent the reason that Ed GOT the Knight-Defendership: the >rendering down to a splatter of Alois Greub. I think a red spot would be correct thing to use. Pangaro, who is now going to sleep Member of the Narn Bat Squad (Narn Bat Squad FAQ Here ) |
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Star Ranger4
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Aug-11-01, 04:33 AM (EDT) |
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7. "RE: ED - 209/A1: Knight Defender"
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Except that there is no heraldic term that I recall for a splat. A Star is the closest your going to get. Simple, yet elegant, too. Heck of a lot better than what I was going to use if I was ever awarded arms... lesse if I can even remember it? Azure, 'ace of spades(white box with sable cardpique)' pierced by a flaming sword. nope. cant remember the full, correct heraldic descrption. phooey ___________________ Vaughn doesn't know I exist. I guess this explains why the rest of reality keeps ignoring me as well. >_< |
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Mephron
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Aug-13-01, 09:12 AM (EDT) |
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10. "RE: ED - 209/A1: Knight Defender"
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>I think a fine red mist would be more likely, considering just how >much ammo he spent on Gerub. > >Matrix Dragon I was trying to use traditional blazoning, rather than coming up with what we used to call 'meatloaf heraldry'. (A bear dormant, proper is the canonical example of such. Because a that's basically a brown bear, sleeping in the curled up position, in such a way that it looks like, well, a meatloaf. There's also 'sable and argent chequey', AKA Art Op Improper.) -- Geoff Depew - Mephron Haberdasher to Androids, Malakite of Lightning and Angel of Tech Support Professionals (They won't give me LARTs, they say that's restricted to Michael.) |
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Dreamshadow
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Aug-13-01, 09:59 AM (EDT) |
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11. "RE: ED - 209/A1: Knight Defender"
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Is there somewhere where I can learn more about heraldry? I just got done reading several books (including The First Chronicles of Amber) and would like to know the significance of some of the banners. Thanks.Tom 'Dreamshadow' Tjarks ------------------------ "Wai." |
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Mephron
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Aug-13-01, 10:04 AM (EDT) |
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12. "RE: ED - 209/A1: Knight Defender"
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>Is there somewhere where I can learn more about heraldry? I just got >done reading several books (including The First Chronicles of Amber) >and would like to know the significance of some of the banners. >Thanks. http://www.demon.co.uk/apl385/gilling/herldref.htm It's got a good rundown of classical heraldric terms, to at least give you an idea about things. -- Geoff Depew - Mephron Haberdasher to Androids, Malakite of Lightning and Angel of Tech Support Professionals (They won't give me LARTs, they say that's restricted to Michael.) |
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Star Ranger4
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Aug-13-01, 11:29 PM (EDT) |
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13. "RE: ED - 209/A1: Knight Defender"
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Thanks. That should make it: Azure, billet argent cardpique sable, pierced by flaming sword. At least I *think* that's correct... Meph? ___________________ Vaughn doesn't know I exist. I guess this explains why the rest of reality keeps ignoring me as well. >_< |
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Mephron
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Aug-13-01, 11:36 PM (EDT) |
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14. "RE: ED - 209/A1: Knight Defender"
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>Thanks. That should make it: > >Azure, billet argent cardpique sable, pierced by flaming sword. > >At least I *think* that's correct... Meph? I can't find 'cardpique' anywhere, actually, so I can't say. If it's something that's on top of the billet, it should work in later European heraldry when they had to relax the strictures of go insane. Under the earlier ones, you can't put metal on metal (argent and or (white and yellow/silver and gold) or tincture on tincture. This is getting waaaay off base, me thinks. -- Geoff Depew - Mephron Haberdasher to Androids, Malakite of Lightning and Angel of Tech Support Professionals (They won't give me LARTs, they say that's restricted to Michael.) |
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Star Ranger4
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Aug-15-01, 00:20 AM (EDT) |
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16. "RE: ED - 209/A1: Knight Defender"
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>I can't find 'cardpique' anywhere, actually, so I can't say. If it's >something that's on top of the billet, it should work in later >European heraldry when they had to relax the strictures of go insane. >Under the earlier ones, you can't put metal on metal (argent and or >(white and yellow/silver and gold) or tincture on tincture. >Its the spade shape off of playing cards. And yes, that's the proper term, I asked my local herald about it while I was active in the SCA. ___________________ Vaughn doesn't know I exist. I guess this explains why the rest of reality keeps ignoring me as well. >_< |
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