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bparanial
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 Aug-17-01, 01:01 PM (EDT)
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"SOS Question"
 
   What Clef mean when he said that he made a "grave mistake" in entrusting Utena to Zoner? He did great job considering thae situation
(How would you react if a girl from another diemension suddenly appeared out
of nowhere in front of you.) And it's not like he would hand her over to Ohtori
if the opportunity presented itself.


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  RE: SOS Question Pasha Aug-17-01 1
     RE: SOS Question junipermoderator Aug-17-01 2
         RE: SOS Question Gryphonadmin Aug-17-01 3
  RE: SOS Question Gryphonadmin Aug-17-01 4
     RE: SOS Question Ebony Aug-17-01 5
         RE: SOS Question Gryphonadmin Aug-17-01 6
             RE: SOS Question Astynax Aug-18-01 7

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Pasha
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1018 posts		 Aug-17-01, 02:34 PM (EDT)
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1. "RE: SOS Question"
In response to message #0
 
   >What Clef mean when he said that he made a "grave mistake" in
>entrusting Utena to Zoner? He did great job considering thae situation
>(How would you react if a girl from another diemension suddenly
>appeared out of nowhere in front of you.) And it's not like he would hand her >over to Ohtori if the opportunity presented itself.

AIUI, it's because handing something really important (utena) over to a being of pure chaos (the Zone-man) has an even chance of being really good, and really bad. He doesn't know our intrepid chaoswalker, just that he is a being of much power. So, now he's fretting, cause he doesn't know how everything worked out, and if he can trust the Zone-man or not. However, I Could Be Wrong.

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-Pasha
Umm, right. I'll be with you in just a
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junipermoderator
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515 posts		 Aug-17-01, 03:46 PM (EDT)
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2. "RE: SOS Question"
In response to message #1
 
   >AIUI, it's because handing something really important (utena) over to
>a being of pure chaos (the Zone-man) has an even chance of being
>really good, and really bad. He doesn't know our intrepid
>chaoswalker, just that he is a being of much power. So, now he's
>fretting, cause he doesn't know how everything worked out, and if he
>can trust the Zone-man or not. However, I Could Be Wrong.

Yep. That's about it. For all he knows, Zoner could have enrolled Utena at La Snootier Private School for Princesses.

-- Juniper
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"Fac me cocleario vomere!"
-- Onatah, on NE:CiF MUSH


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Gryphonadmin
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22411 posts		 Aug-17-01, 04:00 PM (EDT)
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3. "RE: SOS Question"
In response to message #2
 
   >>AIUI, it's because handing something really important (utena) over to
>>a being of pure chaos (the Zone-man) has an even chance of being
>>really good, and really bad. He doesn't know our intrepid
>>chaoswalker, just that he is a being of much power. So, now he's
>>fretting, cause he doesn't know how everything worked out, and if he
>>can trust the Zone-man or not. However, I Could Be Wrong.
>
>Yep. That's about it. For all he knows, Zoner could have enrolled
>Utena at La Snootier Private School for Princesses.

Oh, Fontainebleau Academy?

(think)

Well, she'd look good in the uniform.

Anyway, yeah, that's pretty much the size of it. Clef doesn't necessarily think that Zoner's going to do anything bad - it's just that he doesn't know much about what being a Chaoswalker entails, and he's started second-guessing himself, because he has no way of knowing now whether Zoner actually did anything to help Utena or not. He's not worried about Zoner being actively malevolent so much as indifferent.

--G.
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Gryphonadmin
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22411 posts		 Aug-17-01, 04:06 PM (EDT)
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4. "RE: SOS Question"
In response to message #0
 
   >(How would you react if a girl from another diemension suddenly
>appeared out
>of nowhere in front of you.)

Depends on the girl. In this particular case I'd probably have busted out that same Better Off Dead misquote, then perhaps a touchdown dance and a quiet "Woo hoo!", followed by a dash to bring my car closer and a lot of semi-coherent muttering to myself. :)

--G.
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Ebony
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5. "RE: SOS Question"
In response to message #4
 
   >>(How would you react if a girl from another diemension suddenly
>>appeared out
>>of nowhere in front of you.)
>
>Depends on the girl. In this particular case I'd probably have busted
>out that same Better Off Dead misquote, then perhaps a
>touchdown dance and a quiet "Woo hoo!", followed by a dash to bring my
>car closer and a lot of semi-coherent muttering to myself. :)

I thought the misquote was from "Men At Work." The quote I remember was:

"Looks like someone threw away a perfectly good white boy."

Issued by Keith David, I think. He's creepy when he does something other than voice acting. Or he gets creepy roles, at least.

Ebony the Black Dragon
aka Draco Draconis Ebenium
known to the SAG as Aaron F. Johnson,
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Gryphonadmin
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6. "RE: SOS Question"
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   >I thought the misquote was from "Men At Work." The quote I remember
>was:

Don't think so. I believe the original is, "Damn shame, folks throwin' away a perfectly good white boy like that," said by a highway worker who notes a garbage truck passing by an underpass with the main character in the back.

Primarily, though, I base this assertion on the fact that I've seen Better Off Dead, and haven't seen Men at Work. I suppose one might have been misquoting the other, come to that.

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Astynax
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1061 posts		 Aug-18-01, 06:21 PM (EDT)
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7. "RE: SOS Question"
In response to message #6
 
   >>I thought the misquote was from "Men At Work." The quote I remember
>>was:
>
>Don't think so. I believe the original is, "Damn shame, folks
>throwin' away a perfectly good white boy like that," said by a highway
>worker who notes a garbage truck passing by an underpass with the main
>character in the back.
>
>Primarily, though, I base this assertion on the fact that I've seen
>Better Off Dead, and haven't seen Men at Work. I
>suppose one might have been misquoting the other, come to that.
>

Having seen both, option #2 is the correct one. Though, I'm not sure if it was a misquote or not, since the situations in both movies that cause the comment sort of lead naturally to it <to make a long comment short {too late} a case of parallel developement>

-={(Astynax)}=-
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