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Gryphon
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Nov-18-17, 06:47 PM (EST) |
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4. "RE: PROTIP: revolver reloading"
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>Wait is...is he dumping out the whole interior of the cylinder? Or is >he leaving a speedloader on the thing when he loads it? > >Or am I just not seeing things right, as may well be the case Yeah, it looks like the revolvers in Destiny use ammunition that's basically one big cartridge with several (in this instance, nine) loaded chambers in it and the ratchet/indexing mechanism built into the back. There's a top-break one that one of the other Hats uses for a while during that stream, which works in basically the same way. I don't know if the game's designers gave it much thought—for instance, does the cylinder have a central axis pin that just doesn't go all the way to the back, and if not how is it retained?—but it looks cool, and it's a decent visual justification for how much faster and less fiddly than real revolvers they are to reload. Assuming sufficiently strong Future Materials that the cylinder only being retained at the very front isn't a problem, I can't think of any reason why it wouldn't work mechanically, although it wouldn't be very efficient materials-wise. --G. -><- Benjamin D. Hutchins, Co-Founder, Editor-in-Chief, & Forum Mod Eyrie Productions, Unlimited http://www.eyrie-productions.com/ zgryphon at that email service Google has Ceterum censeo Carthaginem esse delendam. |
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Peter Eng
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Nov-18-17, 07:40 PM (EST) |
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5. "RE: PROTIP: revolver reloading"
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Okay, I barely followed that, but I think what's happening in the reload sequence is: 1. The revolver can somehow be opened and unloaded one-handed without damaging the...hinge?...that swings it out. 2. The person then shoves in what appears to be a disposable cylinder of bullets. 3. After that, the revolver is then flipped shut, which should also damage the hinge, but apparently doesn't. I swear, there should be a major industry in scavenging the brass and the disposable cylinders from an area. Peter Eng -- Insert humorous comment here. |
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Gryphon
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Nov-18-17, 07:53 PM (EST) |
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6. "RE: PROTIP: revolver reloading"
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>1. The revolver can somehow be opened and unloaded one-handed without >damaging the...hinge?...that swings it out. Technically speaking, the swing arm that the cylinder is attached to in revolvers that work that way is called the crane. And it is possible to open and close a real swing-out revolver that way, just... not a great idea. Modern revolvers are usually built well enough that they won't be ruined immediately, but handling them like that habitually will eventually lead to things bending and stretching such that they don't line up properly any more. >I swear, there should be a major industry in scavenging the brass and >the disposable cylinders from an area. Based on the relatively few bits of the storyline the guys weren't talking over in that stream, it appears that the game's setting is post-apocalyptic, so presumably people have other things on their minds. :) --G. -><- Benjamin D. Hutchins, Co-Founder, Editor-in-Chief, & Forum Mod Eyrie Productions, Unlimited http://www.eyrie-productions.com/ zgryphon at that email service Google has Ceterum censeo Carthaginem esse delendam. |
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Gryphon
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Nov-18-17, 08:14 PM (EST) |
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8. "RE: PROTIP: revolver reloading"
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>the magic guns where headshots cause >the bullet to return to the chamber... Which would have had >interesting development issues during the design phase :)"All right, explanation. What happened here?" "Well, we were testing the latest rev of the headshot return gun." "And one of you decided to test it by shooting Johnson in the head?" "No, Johnson was doing the firing test." "Go on..." "He was shooting at one of the standard Mark 12 target drones, and... I don't know. Either his hand slipped, or he tried an unauthorized disarm shot, or... we'll never know. Anyway, as you can see, he hit the drone's weapon." "... And the round rehomed..." "... To his head. Yes. That's... that's what it looks like." "Hmm. Well... have to have a word with the software guys about algorithm reversibility. Carry on." --G. -><- Benjamin D. Hutchins, Co-Founder, Editor-in-Chief, & Forum Mod Eyrie Productions, Unlimited http://www.eyrie-productions.com/ zgryphon at that email service Google has Ceterum censeo Carthaginem esse delendam. |
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Gryphon
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Nov-20-17, 04:45 PM (EST) |
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23. "RE: PROTIP: revolver reloading"
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LAST EDITED ON Nov-20-17 AT 04:46 PM (EST) >What a peculiar cartridge... Made of the finest Celanese Fortiflex. (To be fair, "Celanese" is the name of the company that makes Fortiflex® brand plastic, it's not like "fine Corinthian leather". Still, how 1950s is that packaging? I love stuff like that.) Also, I just think "trounds" is fun to say out loud. Trounds. Trrrouuuunds. --G. -><- Benjamin D. Hutchins, Co-Founder, Editor-in-Chief, & Forum Mod Eyrie Productions, Unlimited http://www.eyrie-productions.com/ zgryphon at that email service Google has Ceterum censeo Carthaginem esse delendam. |
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Gryphon
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Nov-20-17, 04:59 PM (EST) |
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24. "RE: PROTIP: revolver reloading"
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>I think any time that thing's trigger is pulled and the bullet doesn't >Own Goal the shooter is a good day. I'd like to have seen more about how it works. It looks like it has a top-break action, in which case, um... yeah. You guys go ahead, I'll catch up. Handmade firearms are not inherently unsafe, and 7.62×39 isn't insanely powerful for a handgun round—I mean, it's not like the occasional full-power 7.62×54 Mosin-Nagant obrez you hear about somebody making—but I think I would at least want whatever I was firing it from to have a solid frame. --G. -><- Benjamin D. Hutchins, Co-Founder, Editor-in-Chief, & Forum Mod Eyrie Productions, Unlimited http://www.eyrie-productions.com/ zgryphon at that email service Google has Ceterum censeo Carthaginem esse delendam. |
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MoonEyes
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Nov-24-17, 06:27 AM (EST) |
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33. "RE: PROTIP: revolver reloading"
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>(There's also a rather nifty gunkata bit in one episode) Thoroughly stolen from Equilibrium...except for the boob-catapult-reloads. Which, you know, if those had been in the original movie.... Yeah. ...! Stoke Mandeville, Esq & The Victorian Ballsmiths "Nobody Want Verdigris-Covered Balls!" |
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Peter Eng
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Nov-24-17, 09:30 AM (EST) |
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34. "RE: PROTIP: revolver reloading"
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>>(There's also a rather nifty gunkata bit in one episode) > >Thoroughly stolen from Equilibrium...except for the >boob-catapult-reloads. Which, you know, if those had been in the >original movie.... >...it would still have been... *shades* ...a total bust. Peter Eng -- Insert humorous comment here. |
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