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Gryphonadmin
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"song o' the creative cycle, mark III"
 
   Doin' time where it takes you
You know it's time that can break you
We get caught in the moment
Just sleepwalking most of our lives
In your mind when you need it
With a song to help you believe it
You can reinvent your world
Anytime you like

To be alive again
Wakin' up from where you've been
Younger now than you were then
You're comin' round again
Do you remember when?
Life was so much simpler then
Like summer nights that never end
To be alive again

Find the smile you've been missing
There's someone that you could be kissin'
So open your eyes and see
What's been there all along
Letting go of your feelings
The doubt and fear - you don't need it
Break the chains on the heart
Of a soul that's been waiting so long

To be alive again
Wakin' up from where you've been
Younger now than you were then
You're comin' round again
Do you remember when?
Life was so much simpler then
Like summer nights that never end
To be alive again

You're not among the walking wounded anymore
There's a time to fall
There's a time to rise above it all

To be alive again
Wakin' up from where you've been
Younger now than you were then
You're comin' round again
Do you remember when?
Life was so much simpler then
Like summer nights that never end
To be alive again

(Alive again)
(Alive again)
To be alive again
Yeah
You make me feel alive again
To be alive again
- Journey "To Be Alive Again" Arrival

--G.
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  RE: song o' the creative cycle, mark III TRB Sep-03-01 1
     RE: song o' the creative cycle, mark III Gryphonadmin Sep-03-01 2
         RE: song o' the creative cycle, mark III ejheckathorn Sep-03-01 3
             RE: song o' the creative cycle, mark III Gryphonadmin Sep-03-01 4
         RE: song o' the creative cycle, mark III Ebony Sep-05-01 7
     RE: song o' the creative cycle, mark III BobSchroeck Sep-03-01 5
     RE: song o' the creative cycle, mark III Star Ranger4 Sep-04-01 6
  RE: song o' the creative cycle, mark III Kitsune9tl Sep-06-01 8
     RE: song o' the creative cycle, mark III Gryphonadmin Sep-06-01 9
         RE: song o' the creative cycle, mark III Star Ranger4 Sep-08-01 10
             RE: song o' the creative cycle, mark III Gryphonadmin Sep-08-01 11

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TRB
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1. "RE: song o' the creative cycle, mark III"
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   Music is magical, the only true force of which is evident in our plane of existence.

Tell me something, Gryph, other writers: does music listened to when in the appropriate mood cause scenes (which may or may not be written later)to play out in your mind, or do you fit music to already-written scenes after the fact?

TRB


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Gryphonadmin
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2. "RE: song o' the creative cycle, mark III"
In response to message #1
 
   >Tell me something, Gryph, other writers: does music listened to when
>in the appropriate mood cause scenes (which may or may not be written
>later)to play out in your mind, or do you fit music to already-written
>scenes after the fact?

Either has been known to happen.

--G.
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ejheckathorn
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3. "RE: song o' the creative cycle, mark III"
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   >Either has been known to happen.
>

While we're on the subject, you don't seem to insert "music cues" quite as often now as you did on your earlier work. Is this a deliberate style choice, or did it just sort of happen?

Also, have your musical tastes changed significantly enough that you wish you could go back and change some of the music cues on your early work? Personally, I think Barber's Adagio for Strings (the version with the choral accompianment) would have been perfect for the fall of the Wayward Son.

Eric J. Heckathorn
ericjh@stargate.net

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Gryphonadmin
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4. "RE: song o' the creative cycle, mark III"
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   >While we're on the subject, you don't seem to insert "music cues"
>quite as often now as you did on your earlier work. Is this a
>deliberate style choice, or did it just sort of happen?

Sometimes it's deliberate - the cues break up the narrative more than I'd like at that particular spot, and so forth. Often, though, I just plain forget.

>Also, have your musical tastes changed significantly enough that you
>wish you could go back and change some of the music cues on your early
>work?

My musical tastes have evolved quite some way, but if I were going to go back and start changing things, believe me, the music cues would be pretty low on the list. :)

--G.
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Ebony
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7. "RE: song o' the creative cycle, mark III"
In response to message #2
 
   >>Tell me something, Gryph, other writers: does music listened to when
>>in the appropriate mood cause scenes (which may or may not be written
>>later)to play out in your mind, or do you fit music to already-written
>>scenes after the fact?
>
>Either has been known to happen.
>

Ditto.

Ebony the Black Dragon
aka Draco Draconis Ebenium
known to NEX@yahoogroups.com as Aaron F. Johnson,
Senior Editor, Living Room Games
http://www.lrgames.com

(www.geocities.com/talegiver is the Nexus, the Infinite City archives)


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BobSchroeck
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5. "RE: song o' the creative cycle, mark III"
In response to message #1
 
   >Tell me something, Gryph, other writers: does music listened to when
>in the appropriate mood cause scenes (which may or may not be written
>later)to play out in your mind, or do you fit music to already-written
>scenes after the fact?

Definitely the former, mainly because my current primary character is a metahuman whose superpowers are driven by music. A lot of my listening runs on two levels -- the basic enjoyment level, and simultaneously, the "Gee, what would this do for Doug?" level.

-- Bob
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Maya: Isn't there anything we can do?
Ritsuko-chan: Well, there is one thing we haven't tried. We can pray real hard!
-- from Tenshi Muyo! Rei-o-ohki

-- Bob
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My race is pacifist and does not believe in war. We kill only out of personal spite.


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Star Ranger4
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6. "RE: song o' the creative cycle, mark III"
In response to message #1
 
   >Tell me something, Gryph, other writers: does music listened to when
>in the appropriate mood cause scenes (which may or may not be written
>later)to play out in your mind, or do you fit music to already-written
>scenes after the fact?
>

Not exactly. Although I don't use OBVIOUS music cues, quite a lot of my material has been writen with music playing in the background of my head, or flat out playing for inspiration. For example, wandering Moon was written exclusively to the SM soundtrack and Luna Rock. The scene where Wanderer goes to the rescue of Max in TOTW 2-10 was similarly composed to the Mama & Papa's "Hazy Shade of Winter", which could be considered as playing in the background.

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Vaughn doesn't know I exist. I guess this explains why the rest of reality keeps ignoring me as well. >_<


Of COURSE you wernt expecting it!
No One expects the FANNISH INQUISITION!
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8. "RE: song o' the creative cycle, mark III"
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   To submit or not to submit.

This is the dilemma,

Is it better to submit and thereby expose one's self
to the often ascerbic and often bilious remarks
of a critic's venomous bit, to achieve
acknowledgment of one's craft and
receive credit for ones accomplishment.

Or by nonsubmission hide from thy fellow man
knowing that while he passes by in ignorant bliss
one could have offered praise for a worthy work
and therefore brand oneself a pitiless coward
never to feel the pains of joyous birth.

yet in this Dilemma's tortuous crucible one must refine
and define one's self knowing that by submission
one announces one's stand , and accept the
flight of jealous verbiage of those that fail to understand
there fore fail in understanding their own selves

yet one may entrap ones self with walls of doubt
to hide one's creation from sight of man
to avoid the pain of misjudged stares
to never to know failure by dint of never having tried
only to fine one's soul judged unworthy by one's self.
--
OK, I'm covering my head now...


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Gryphonadmin
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Sep-06-01, 11:44 PM (EST)
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9. "RE: song o' the creative cycle, mark III"
In response to message #8
 
   >To submit or not to submit.
>
>This is the dilemma,

... huh?

--G.
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10. "RE: song o' the creative cycle, mark III"
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   He probobly should have re-named this substring author's lament, or Ode to RAAC, or...

Its basicly Hamlet's famous soliliqy, re-written as if Hamlet was an Angsty Fan-Fic writer, rather than a brooding Danish prince.

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Vaughn doesn't know I exist. I guess this explains why the rest of reality keeps ignoring me as well. >_<


Of COURSE you wernt expecting it!
No One expects the FANNISH INQUISITION!
RCW# 86


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Gryphonadmin
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Sep-08-01, 02:34 AM (EST)
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11. "RE: song o' the creative cycle, mark III"
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   >He probobly should have re-named this substring author's lament, or
>Ode to RAAC, or...
>
>Its basicly Hamlet's famous soliliqy, re-written as if Hamlet was an
>Angsty Fan-Fic writer, rather than a brooding Danish prince.

I can see that, I was just wondering what the relevance was.

--G.
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